>Do you count your bodyweight into a squat too?
No because it's not a valid addition, since the lower part of your body weight isn't being supported on your legs... retard.
I do not count the bar because people don't actually know the weight of the bar they get it wrong and want to argue about it it's so dumb just count the plates with the big legible numbers
>can lift 200 pounds >decide to add another 45 pounds >tell everyone i can lift 245 pounds >they say i can only lift 200 because 45 is so light its not even worth mentioning
this meme was never funny and I'm glad it's practically dead
the blue check on twitter let’s you know they’re fishing for engagement so it makes them money. now he has over 1000 meatheads quote tweeting at him angrily like he wanted so he can collect a check
OK, so hes advocating for thermonuclear mutually assured destruction, but did you realise that by flat-out contradicting him you're taking an equally hardline and absolutist position, just one that happens to be in the other direction? A more mature position would be to meet him halfway.
The more I really delve into ancient Egypt the more retarded they seem.
They wouldn't repeat fractions either, so 2/3 would be 1/2 + 1/6 if they bothered to break it down.
2/3 and 3/4 were part of the ancient egyptian fraction set (1/4, 1/3, 1/2, 2/3, 3/4) that all had special symbols. They just kind kept using 2/3 as a fraction, but sometimes 3/4 would be broken down, and sometimes not. They are odd birds for sure.
Pictured, nice 1/15 plates and 1/36 plates before they became 1/45 plates with a grinder.
Here's a nice 1/3 plate plate, goes well with the 2/3 plate plate! Then you could have 1/9 plate plates (5 pounds) and 2/9 plate plates (10 pounds). Nice little set!
What fractions of a plate do we use now? 1/18, 1/9, 2/9, maybe 1/3, 5/9, 7/9, 1, 11/9, sometimes 13/9. Odd. Only 2/9 and 7/9 add to one!
numbers are meaningless I legit don't even know my lifts off the top of my head half the time I just remember how many plates I use then add a small plate when the weight gets too easy
>The guy should just feel good he can do 225+bar
he can't
that guy doesn't lift at all
he's a wannabe eceleb making up stories and saying blatantly wrong shit so that redditors like OP spread it around and he gets exposure.
When I was completely new to lifting, I thought you weren't supposed to count the weight of the bar, but it turns out I was being fucking retarded and counting the bar weight is standard practice. If someone doesn't count the bar then it is a sign they're either a noob or just have straight up never lifted before
>If someone doesn't count the bar then it is a sign they're either a noob or just have straight up never lifted before
I think it's just a sign that they're retarded enough not to understand that the bar has mass.
Not only do I not count the bar, I subtract the weight of the holes, any pl8 wear and also account for the position of the moon, sun and other planets and make corrections based on latitude, altitude, temperature and humidity and minutes and seconds of angle the bench or floor may be canted.
>and also account for the position of the moon, sun and other planets and make corrections based on latitude, altitude, temperature and humidity and minutes and seconds of angle the bench or floor may be canted.
based SwoleShack lifter
>all Olympic bars have a standard weight of 20kg/45lb
The term Olympic bar refers entirely to the bar having a 5 cm/2" rotating sleeve on the end of each bar where the plates are loaded. It is not in reference to weight. You can have a 60" Olympic barbell (maybe 25 lbs), an Olympic technique or women's barbell (usually about 15k), or a deadlift bar (weight can vary though these are usually longer than the standard 20kg olympic barbells and are more flexible, i.e. spaghetti bars).
Retard. The standard for all barbells used to clean, snatch, squat, deadlift, and bench with in competitions are 45lb/20kg, including Olympic bars. It would be a fucking mess if barbell companies just made them weight whatever the fuck they wanted them to weigh. A 20kg bar is considered “full weight” in competitions. Technique bars weigh less because they are used to train TECHNIQUE with young and weak lifters and would never be allowed in a competition.
>not subtracting the mass of the holes in the plate >not subtracting the buoyancy of displaced air >not accounting for the centrifugal force of the earth's spin >not counting the tidal force of the moon >not offsetting the mass by the coefficient of vertical displacement from the mean average of radius from the earth's core
Why don't you fags just award yourself a participation trophy every time you go to the gym, since apparently accuracy is irrelevant??
does weight way more depending on elevation? >The difference between your weight at sea level and your weight would not be noticeable but it is measurable. eg: a person who weighs 150 lbs at sea level would weigh 149.92 lbs at 10,000 ft. The difference is only . 08 lbs (1.28 oz).
The further you are from the barycentre of a mass, the weaker the force of gravity it exerts on you. The higher your altitude gets, the weaker earth's gravity becomes until you get so far away you're in space and are effectively weightless.
Yes? Are you retarded? Everyone does including all official lifts. If you were starting out with just a bar doing curls/military press etc. Do you count that as 0 kg?
>If you were starting out with just a bar
That's not something I'd ever do that's something a guy who was in a coma for 3 months would do it's not normal
Don't forget also to subtract the centripetal force created by the Earth's rotation. For people at latitudes within the United States you should take about one ounce off your already dogshit PRs
as long as the bar has mass
yes
if i pick up a plate(kitchen plate) that is 5kg and then put 15 kg of food on it how much weight am i holding?
yes the answer is 20 kg
if you dont want to count the bar fine, just tie some rope around the plates and lift them in each hand
I use a 5ft bar for some lifts and I never checked its weight so I actually do not count the bar when I take notes, since it doesn't matter as long as I keep using the same bar.
I bet this homosexual goes to Planet Fitness and only has Smith Machines. If he actually doesn't count the freeweight bar he should kill himself for being below 40IQ
I have an old cheap bar that came with a 300 pound weight set, that's 45 pounds. My newer bar is 20kg, came out to 44.2 pounds on the legal-for-trade scale, 100g or so extra for free!
you don't even lift
>he counts both sides of that bar
that was a 90 lb bench
>he doesn't subtract his bodyweight on his lifts
Impressive -80 lb bench, hahaha. Keep at it little guy
No one does
Why wouldn’t you, last time I checked, the bar has weight
Do you count your bodyweight into a squat too?
No but I count the bar
He’s not counting the weight of his arms during the bench you homosexual, if you’re going to talk shit at least get it right
>Do you count your bodyweight into a squat too?
No because it's not a valid addition, since the lower part of your body weight isn't being supported on your legs... retard.
My bodyweight isn't an external stimulus.
So the bar is part of the body now?
Brutally BTFO, if you count the bar you are a DYEL and a homosexual
Different bars have different weights. So of course you count the bar
Do you count your bones when you weigh yourself in the morning, retard?
I've got a bone your sweet mother can count homosexual
do you count the weight on the lat pulldown? if you arent pulling more than your bodyweight it doesnt count as weight
>I'm a 45lb stick
That's all you had to say bro
The bar is free because it just is bro.
Even if you lift dumbbells you need to subtract 20kg because you just do bro.
I do not count the bar because people don't actually know the weight of the bar they get it wrong and want to argue about it it's so dumb just count the plates with the big legible numbers
It's almost always 45lb
u are a retard
Unless you are working on a garage gym, bars are almost always standard Olympic weight, so 45lb/20kg
Im homegym and my bar is 35kg
Even then, that's actually a reason to count the bar, soif you go to a gym with standard bars you would be 15 kg stronger by the no counting logic
What are you talking about? The bar is 45 pounds? Everybody knows this..
I weighted the gym bar and it’s 15kg
during the plandemic I bought myself an Olympic bar. I think it weighed 12.5kg (28 lbs). Then again scales could be off too. Everything is a lie.
>olympic bar
>womens olympic bar
pretty sure a womens olympic bar is 15kg and not 12.5, he bought a toddlers olympic bar
Oh no no no Olysisters
How do we damage control without appearing assblasted? I'm not sure it can be done tbqhwy
https://www.alphafit.com.au/12.5kg-shorty-barbell
How long is it? The first 12.5kg bar I came across had a 25mm shaft and was only 6 feet long.
I guess doing these mental jedi tricks on yourself works for some people
It's only 45 pounds why count it KEK makes the math easier
>can lift 200 pounds
>decide to add another 45 pounds
>tell everyone i can lift 245 pounds
>they say i can only lift 200 because 45 is so light its not even worth mentioning
bad b8 m8 if u were srs u'd be retard m8 8/8
the blue check on twitter let’s you know they’re fishing for engagement so it makes them money. now he has over 1000 meatheads quote tweeting at him angrily like he wanted so he can collect a check
How is posting on twatter making money for the poster?
you can get paid now based on the engagement if you have a blue check. elon made the change earlier this year iirc
this trend of posting twitter screenshots is so fucking gay it's unreal
a nuclear holocaust would unironically be a good thing
>a nuclear holocaust would unironically be a good thing
Bit of an overreaction to someone posting an image on an imageboard.
OK, so hes advocating for thermonuclear mutually assured destruction, but did you realise that by flat-out contradicting him you're taking an equally hardline and absolutist position, just one that happens to be in the other direction? A more mature position would be to meet him halfway.
>why yes i too indulge in selectively ignoring how gravity works to feed my psychometric demons how did you tell?
oh? Do you count the weight of your arms too?
No, I make my arms count.
aren't you supposed to add bodyweight to 1rm?
>lay on back
>do bench motion
Just hit my new pr of 400lbs bench
on bench arms are neglectable.
I do calculate with bodyweight and squat and DL but i use my own charts.
delectable
yes
You don't?
this meme was never funny and I'm glad it's practically dead
Holy fuck all my 1rms just went up by 45 lbs m0xyya
You have to divide the weight in half because you only spend half the time lifting the weight
>he counts the bar
>he doesn't count the clips
>he doesn't take into account the holes in the plates
Only sometimes. I'd rather just count the plates.
Here's a nice 2/3 plate for Egyptian fraction lovers.
>Egyptian fraction
an Egyptian fraction can't have a number greater than 1 in the numerator. 2/3 would be 1/3+1/3.
There you go, 1 in the numerator! Egyptians even had a hieroglyphic for it. They also had one for 1/(1+1/3) or 3/4.
The more I really delve into ancient Egypt the more retarded they seem.
They wouldn't repeat fractions either, so 2/3 would be 1/2 + 1/6 if they bothered to break it down.
2/3 and 3/4 were part of the ancient egyptian fraction set (1/4, 1/3, 1/2, 2/3, 3/4) that all had special symbols. They just kind kept using 2/3 as a fraction, but sometimes 3/4 would be broken down, and sometimes not. They are odd birds for sure.
Pictured, nice 1/15 plates and 1/36 plates before they became 1/45 plates with a grinder.
Here's a nice 1/3 plate plate, goes well with the 2/3 plate plate! Then you could have 1/9 plate plates (5 pounds) and 2/9 plate plates (10 pounds). Nice little set!
What fractions of a plate do we use now? 1/18, 1/9, 2/9, maybe 1/3, 5/9, 7/9, 1, 11/9, sometimes 13/9. Odd. Only 2/9 and 7/9 add to one!
numbers are meaningless I legit don't even know my lifts off the top of my head half the time I just remember how many plates I use then add a small plate when the weight gets too easy
I also count the butterfly that lands on my bar during my PR attempt.
OP is a homosexual.
The guy should just feel good he can do 225+bar but instead he shits on a guy that can do 225.
>The guy should just feel good he can do 225+bar
he can't
that guy doesn't lift at all
he's a wannabe eceleb making up stories and saying blatantly wrong shit so that redditors like OP spread it around and he gets exposure.
stupid thread.
Numbersfag jerking off to his numbers is upset that someone is getting their own numbers wrong.
Big habbenings
Probably didn’t even weigh the weight before the lift.
You always count the bar you no lift cunts 45lb
I count the bar, because it has mass.
When I was completely new to lifting, I thought you weren't supposed to count the weight of the bar, but it turns out I was being fucking retarded and counting the bar weight is standard practice. If someone doesn't count the bar then it is a sign they're either a noob or just have straight up never lifted before
>If someone doesn't count the bar then it is a sign they're either a noob or just have straight up never lifted before
I think it's just a sign that they're retarded enough not to understand that the bar has mass.
people will find the smallest reasons to feel better than one another
Not only do I not count the bar, I subtract the weight of the holes, any pl8 wear and also account for the position of the moon, sun and other planets and make corrections based on latitude, altitude, temperature and humidity and minutes and seconds of angle the bench or floor may be canted.
>witnessed
>and also account for the position of the moon, sun and other planets and make corrections based on latitude, altitude, temperature and humidity and minutes and seconds of angle the bench or floor may be canted.
based SwoleShack lifter
impressive. v nice
show calculations or fuck off
In Olympic weightlifting they count the bar as apart of the weight that is lifted.
Verification not required
Of course, the bar could weight differently to counter higher weight bending.
No they don't, all Olympic bars have a standard weight of 20kg/45lb
>all Olympic bars have a standard weight of 20kg/45lb
The term Olympic bar refers entirely to the bar having a 5 cm/2" rotating sleeve on the end of each bar where the plates are loaded. It is not in reference to weight. You can have a 60" Olympic barbell (maybe 25 lbs), an Olympic technique or women's barbell (usually about 15k), or a deadlift bar (weight can vary though these are usually longer than the standard 20kg olympic barbells and are more flexible, i.e. spaghetti bars).
Retard. The standard for all barbells used to clean, snatch, squat, deadlift, and bench with in competitions are 45lb/20kg, including Olympic bars. It would be a fucking mess if barbell companies just made them weight whatever the fuck they wanted them to weigh. A 20kg bar is considered “full weight” in competitions. Technique bars weigh less because they are used to train TECHNIQUE with young and weak lifters and would never be allowed in a competition.
ok but you count the weight of the clamps at the end?
Do you count the dust on the plates?
competition collars weigh 2.5kg, and yes they obviously count them
ok but do YOU count them?
my plates are not dusty unlike yours anon
i lift in a clean room
But do you count the atoms and mass of air being displaced?
How many grams per mole do you bench?
>not subtracting the mass of the holes in the plate
>not subtracting the buoyancy of displaced air
>not accounting for the centrifugal force of the earth's spin
>not counting the tidal force of the moon
>not offsetting the mass by the coefficient of vertical displacement from the mean average of radius from the earth's core
Why don't you fags just award yourself a participation trophy every time you go to the gym, since apparently accuracy is irrelevant??
>don't count the bar
>use a womens 15kg bar
>1rm instantly goes up by 5kg
accounting for elevation and wind assistance that is probably actually more like 100lbs
does weight way more depending on elevation?
>The difference between your weight at sea level and your weight would not be noticeable but it is measurable. eg: a person who weighs 150 lbs at sea level would weigh 149.92 lbs at 10,000 ft. The difference is only . 08 lbs (1.28 oz).
The further you are from the barycentre of a mass, the weaker the force of gravity it exerts on you. The higher your altitude gets, the weaker earth's gravity becomes until you get so far away you're in space and are effectively weightless.
225 is 2 plates so the bar is included in 225... are you people retarded?
And 5x5 means 5 plates on each side of the bar. 5 BY 5…
But you DO count the bar there, right chud?
>Calling his "friend" "lil man"
How low is his ego?
Yes? Are you retarded? Everyone does including all official lifts. If you were starting out with just a bar doing curls/military press etc. Do you count that as 0 kg?
>If you were starting out with just a bar
That's not something I'd ever do that's something a guy who was in a coma for 3 months would do it's not normal
>he counts the plates
>he doesn't count the bar
The weight that has an impact is the bar. It's the only thing you should be counting.
Bars at my gym are labeled with their weight, so that you can add it properly. Is OP retarded?
bro I consider the position of the moon and stars and add additional weight to compensate for increases in earth's gravitational pull
I actually use a very rigid rope for my benchpresses.
no, I tie helium balloons to the bar to negate its weight since it isn't supposed to count, then I add an extra 20 kg in plates
>almost 2024
>Not using electromagnetic levitation floor panels
Shiggidty
>twitter retard is retarded
Thanks for the fucking news flash OP
do y'all count the pl8s? lmfao my rm is 0 kg because i dont count nothin
Based beyond reason and belief. Just lift the air that happens to have weights in it.
I do but I am a woman :') I just want to feel strong
What fucking bar weighs 45 pounds?
There are still a few around.
>bushing
>nonononono the bar isn't supposed to roll in your hands or on your back so why?
>captcha WHYG24
all american ones
Pretty much every single bar that is used by any serious gym, since it's the Olympic standard
every single olympic bar because they are standardized and the only one that can actually hold more than 240kg ?
>all these retards who dont understand levers
try lifting 100kg plates without a bar and tell me its the same as lifting 80kg plates with a bar
Don't forget also to subtract the centripetal force created by the Earth's rotation. For people at latitudes within the United States you should take about one ounce off your already dogshit PRs
Wait a minute are you guys counting double? The weights are symmetrical so you only count the weights on one side. 1plate = 20 Kg for example.
i only load one side of the bar at a time.
the bar has the weight of 1 plate, so yes obviously
1 45lb plate = 1lb
It's really that simple
as long as the bar has mass
yes
if i pick up a plate(kitchen plate) that is 5kg and then put 15 kg of food on it how much weight am i holding?
yes the answer is 20 kg
if you dont want to count the bar fine, just tie some rope around the plates and lift them in each hand
I use a 5ft bar for some lifts and I never checked its weight so I actually do not count the bar when I take notes, since it doesn't matter as long as I keep using the same bar.
I don't count the weight at all. I have lifted 0 lbs for years.
Do you count your body weight when you're doing weighted pull-ups? If you do, you might as well count the bar. There's your answer.
So if you're only able to bench the bar, you're lifting 0 lbs?
whats the point in counting the weights just add more if it isnt heavy enough
I only use a single bar at a time so no need to count
>he counts warmup plates aka first 2 plates
please tell me youre not doing this.
I bet this homosexual goes to Planet Fitness and only has Smith Machines. If he actually doesn't count the freeweight bar he should kill himself for being below 40IQ
We have a low weight partially plastic bar at our gym, how do people deal with this?
225 / 2 = 112.5
How do you evenly distribute 112.5 on either side of the bar if all the plates are whole numbers?
I use bar with negative weight, makes it really easy to bench 8pl8.
The twitter man is insecure
Laugh at him
Wait I've never cared but is the olybar really actually 45lbs??
They are so light though.
I have an old cheap bar that came with a 300 pound weight set, that's 45 pounds. My newer bar is 20kg, came out to 44.2 pounds on the legal-for-trade scale, 100g or so extra for free!