You CAN outrun a bad diet you fucking morons.
If you're fit enough to run 10 miles first thing in the morning every single day for a morning session, then cycle or swim for 2 hours in the evening, you can eat whatever the fuck you want, guaranteed.
I'm so fucking sick of you lazy homosexuals that promote this bullshit. Have fun struggling to cut on 1,800 calories a day when I'm shredded at 4,000.
you'll still be fat on the inside
google "tofi"
Keep counting calories, peasant. I'll be enjoying my ice cream 😉
what makes you think i count calories? retard
Post body nagger, I've competed in triathlons in HS and even those people think things like this is a stupid idea
Retard. I hate it when people say "look up this thing that vaguely sounds like it supports what I'm talking about" and they've clearly not even read the thing. TOFI doesn't magically make you fat inside if you're still doing CICO. You can still lose visceral fat through diet and physical activity.
>doing CICO
What does that even mean?
You know what I mean, you pedantic homosexual. Just counting calories.
So if I consume nothing but seed oil and high-fructose corn syrup, I'll be perfectly healthy as long as I keep track of how much I consume? Cool
nobody said anything about health, just weight
Nah, TOFI is literally about health.
Everything literally says TOFI visceral fat is manageable through dieting and exercise. Stop making shit up because you're wrong. Now whether you'll be "healthy" regardless of the TOFI, that's a different matter.
Wrong. You can go ahead and stop replying to me now, I'm bored.
You can out train a bad diet, but not by running alone.
>2hr 10min
Yeah if I walked it maybe
Its definitely possible, especially for lazy people with loads of free time, but its not realistic for people who actually work full time, have a family, and a social life. The 9-5 is more like 8-7, family emergencies happen where you need to take care of responsibilities immediately, and if you make plans say goodbye to any free time you have. You can for sure set aside an hour or 2 for working out each day but you may also be sacrificing sleep.
>especially for lazy people with loads of free time
Wait a minute. Are you saying cardio chads are the lazy ones? Not the gymbros that think 2 minutes on the treadmill is sufficient cardio?
MUH EXCUSES! MUH JOB! MUH RETARDED KIDS AND FAT WIFE!
If you eat garbage you are going to lose the energy and motivation to do all that cardio sooner or later. You can't outrun it
Meanwhile, in reality:
stuff like this always ignores your bmr. You could have that burger and fries every day for lunch if you're active and eat small meals for breakfast and lunch depending on your height and sex. Fat millenial men don't understand anything
you can absolutely btfo a bad diet through brute force, I always reccomend that instead of starving and tanking everything by a calorie cut, but I think what that picture has in mind when it says that isnt a normal person but the typical american who drinks 3000cal starbucks + 6000cal from food each day. you can't outrun that much calories.
>JUST TRAIN FOR THREE AND A HALF HOURS A DAY LMAO
Yes.
Um, i use a recumbent bike
>Have fun struggling to cut on 1,800 calories a day when I'm shredded at 4,000.
>I'm shredded
>run 10 miles first thing in the morning every single day for a morning session, then cycle or swim for 2 hours in the evening
Please post your physique, OP. My 6th sense tells me you might look like a marathon runner. We would like to see what your definition of shredded is.
Do both, retard.
Seethe.
>shredded at 4,000.
Bullshit unless you're fucking Michael Phelps.
>whatever the fuck you want
Too bad what I want is too high fat (and not carb-heavy enough) to fuel and replenish muscle to run and swim 3+ hours a day. I love fresh cheese like burrata and mozzarella
Based.
I eat like absolute shit and am still making gains. Mom is losing her mind because all the years she spent telling me to eat veggies and now I only eat bread and beef while still losing weight.
You eat bread while she eats my chode dickweed
gross she looks like shit, have at it
Horrible thing to say about your mother lad
I'm pretty sure calories are bunk science because it BMR will tell you need like almost 1800 calories then extra so you don't starve, when you're just catatonic in a chair all day. Then if you run a marathon or spend an hour doing high intensity training apparently that's just +200kcal. That's obviously not right and that's why people were less fat before nutrition facts were introduced, because they went off natural instinct instead of some made up math formula by some jerkoff.
I used to do this but it was not a good lifestyle and I have stopped.
I would run 60 or more miles a week.
240+ miles a month.
Some days I would run 20 miles.
You can do it, but it's not a good idea.
Also - when I was running this much, my appetite was insane. I would want to eat at least three thousand calories every day. I sometimes ate over 4000 calories of food and I'd still feel hungry.
A lot of fatties really fuck themselves doing this cycle, I see it all the time with hikers specifically. “Oh I know I’ll go on a 10 mile hike every day!” And then they proceed to eat and drink 5000cals later that evening because their body is screaming for energy and they think they’ve earned it.
yeah
once i stopped doing massive amounts of cardio (i was running 7 miles a day every day until recently, and before that it was usually 12+), my appetite dropped off a cliff. It became a lot easier to eat below my TDEE.
>not doing cardio ≠ sitting on your ass all day
yah i still do 1 hour cardio every day but i don't run 12-16 miles every day like a freak. 1 hour of light cardio doesn't give me a disproportionate appetite. I just swing my kettlebell for an hour every day now. gets me heart a pumping and my skin a sweating.
i also lift weights now. i am doing GZCLP. working out every other day. Today is workout #3, bench press day. My T2 lift is 3x10 squats, looking forward to that, ahaha... haha... ha.. (save me).
It's very easy to eat below 2200 calories now. I often finish at 1800 or less now.
weight has been slowly decreasing and this is all while eating whatever i want, within reason. i just dont binge eat or pig out anymore. i still have pie, ice cream all sorts of things. but i am smart about it
Why isn't it a good idea?
Yeah, that's what human beings are supposed to do. Sitting on your ass all day besides lifting heavy things for an hour isn't natural.
>not doing cardio ≠ sitting on your ass all day
it's way easier to just eat one meal less than to run a marathon every day
>bro if you just do cardio for 4 hours a day you can eat what you want
It can be done but it is an EXTREMELY bad time/value exchange exercising 4 hours a day just to break even because you want to eat like shit is retarded also this isn’t sustainable running four hours a day everyday will fuck your knees hips and feet up with a few weeks and not many people have the free time to dedicate 4 hours a day just to cardio
You don't really have a choice if you want to do Ironman triathlons + lifting.
And yet most people sit on their ass all day.
most people on my cross country team ate like obese schizos and still looked like skeletons. i was basically eating every moment i could and still couldn't keep weight on.
>Noooo your pithy aphorism isn't ACKUALLY correct all the time it's only correct most of the time for nearly all people !!!
Why are you guys such extremist retards that always point to these .01% of people that can do this and not fuck themselves up as evidence that it works or will work for most people?
Is it possible to eat like shit and burn it off? Yeah. Can you do it long term? Yeah maybe if you're super disciplined and doing nothing else with your life. Is it practical? No. So why the fuck are we talking about it? Giving it as advice is moronic, it benefits nobody. You aren't doing it yourself. Just because you can find some YouTuber that (supposedly) does it doesn't mean it's legit fitness advice.
So the conversation is completely pointless. It's not feasible or useful.
How is it extremist to build your cardio base to the point where you effectively don't need to count calories to stay very lean all the time?
How are these people fucking themselves up?
Why wouldn't it work for most people?
>So why the fuck are we talking about it?
Because "fit" retards are constantly talking about cutting as if it's something that should require mental effort at all.
Start doing cardio you fatass.
>you effectively don't need to count calories to stay very lean all the time?
good fucking luck with that
oh it sounds so simply
let me tell you, when i ran over 90 miles in a week, when i was doing more than a half marathon back to back multiple times a week
i wanted to eat the world
there's no way i would've stayed skinny without calorie counting
i was so hungry nothing could fill me up
i would eat a 5lb bowl of pudding and fruit and still be hungry
i would eat a 4lb salad and still be hungry
other foods like steaks, rib eye, meat etc, would fill me up, but i would want to eat WAY more than i burned. so i would gain weight if i wasn't careful.
you think hunger is this thing you can tame. hahaha no. it controls you. i fasted 5 days, i fasted over 500 hours in 2nd half of 2021. multiple 3 day fasts. thousands of miles of mountain running that year.
nonono you do not control the huunger, the hunger controls you.
you think now, because you not experience such huner, you think u can win.
no.
when u reach my level, no. u can not. it is not a joke. it is not mind over matter. your mind is your body. your body goes haywire on this kind of cardio. it is not a good life to live. it is soul poison. do not do it. you are going down a bad path. go ask people in /fat/ how much of a fucking shizo i am, you will see what hunger can do to a person.
Im not that anon but, youre over exaggerating the effect of workout on your hunger and its your subjective opinion. I was clocking 550 miles a week on bike plus half marathon every 3 days plus light fullbody every day, 3 years ago, didnt had what you said at all. in my experience, what is more dominant in effect is that if you eat less and less, the amount of food required to fill you to bursting lessens a lot, and in opposite if you feed the urge of the hunger more and more, your potential to max out on food keeps increasing more and more, which can be seen in those sedentary 900pound animals who eat 6k to maintain their weight.
ok yeah what you say makes sense. i am just crazy. now that ive been eating smaller amounts for a while, things are different.
indeed, same way here anon, I am suprised that I can eat only 1/3 of what I was eating before which makes me bursting full now. what you said is on point too though, you work out good, and you get feelings of extra hunger. the trick is to notice it and manage them down or you expand the size of your stomach the size of moon in a few weeks.
just doing 5k three times a week is unironically enough to eat whatever you want
10k 4x per week was enough to where I looked like an aids patient despite eating all day.
for me it's the 10km daily walk that allows me to eat some chips or other shit that normally i wouldn't put into my mouth
If you train a full day you can even eat 10k calories
Running that much isn't healthy. It's statistically true that heavy runners die sooner of heart related problems compared to those who only run moderately.
How is heavy running defined as opposed to moderate running? I know Ron Paul was a marathon runner and he's like 90 still doing his podcast every day.
I run 12km every other day.
You underestimate how much fucking food I can eat. And let's not start about the potential booze.
Doing 2 hours of cardio is fucking easy, I do fasted cardio every morning for 1.5 hours and then about 45 mins after training at night. Stop being lazy
1300 over 2 hours and 10 minutes is horrible. How much do you weigh?
4 hours biking is like 2500kcal right
Retard. You’ll still end up with dementia and inflammation from the seed oil.
>sneed oil
>not peanut butter
Peanuts are seeds of the peanut plant. Peanut = seed
Peanut butter = sneed oil product
I mean, you can, but it makes no sense to do all that work just because you can't eat better.
Running burns >1000 calories per hour