This tbh. I am still deathly afraid of any physical confrontation and feel like I'd get Ktfo'd easily, especially in they're black (not baiting, just a pussy).
I did train boxing and mma for a few years, but I still think I suck and would get it handed to me on the street.
do you think present you would fuck up past you that hadn't trained? why would it be easy? because you're more familiar with the situation and can pull some level of knowledge and technique out of your ass if needed. that's most people you walk by. most people shy away from physical confrontation (and for good reason) and they are wholly unequipped for it. if you did martials arts for "a few years" then you're leaps and bounds ahead of a similarly sized but untrained individual. that does not guarantee success but it certainly slides it more in your favor.
There was some ginger twat at the bustop the otehr day who just stood infront of me despite me being at the bustop first. Usually you let the people who were there first one (in the civilised world like UK), but he just walked on. I was really angry, but also then started thinking he looked kinda tasty and would probably knock my pussy ass out. I can't even imagine throwing a hard punch, I just imagine fucking it up or it feeling really weak and slow like in a dream.
do you think present you would fuck up past you that hadn't trained? why would it be easy? because you're more familiar with the situation and can pull some level of knowledge and technique out of your ass if needed. that's most people you walk by. most people shy away from physical confrontation (and for good reason) and they are wholly unequipped for it. if you did martials arts for "a few years" then you're leaps and bounds ahead of a similarly sized but untrained individual. that does not guarantee success but it certainly slides it more in your favor.
Idk about fuck up, but certainly win, and mostly because I am stronger and angrier now. I am the type of dude who would get punched and be like "wtf m8" and act like it didn't hurt but not retaliate at all. Most men have been in atleast a few fights, have some aggression and "fire" in their bellies and have played sports/had scraps to know how to fight somewhat.
I was much better at ground game stuff and ok at boxing, but my muaythai sucked and I sparred recently with a friend that used to box for the Navy, and he span my jaw and wobbled me abit (we were drunk) but it has now made me think even more that one good punch and I'll be out cold with brain damage.
>I can't even imagine throwing a hard punch, I just imagine fucking it up or it feeling really weak and slow like in a dream.
I have this too and I have no idea how to overcome it
Do you get scared of sinewy looking men, like they are rigid and solid?
If I had to walk the streets with an ex at night, I would make them walk a certain route that I felt was safer, constantly analysing the environment and listening out for loud noises, changing route if I heard boistrous lad-chatter.
I would talk really quietly and tell them to talk quiter if they spoke to loudly or laughed or something, anything that would attract attention to us, and get angry when I got home for them not behaving "safely" enough.
Extent your arm quickly without tensing the muscle until full extension and turn you body into the punch
i think he meant psychologically, not how you punch.
I'm guilty of that as well but lately i stopped giving a shit and i just stare people down. I used to be a scrawny kid so I always tried to be polite but now everyone can suck my cock.
a good way to lose your fear is to spar as often as you can, even if you dont go to a ma gym, just get a friend, a pair of gloves and do some light sparring(dont forget mouth guards).
me personally, i have to do quite often to ward off the anxiety.
Let the fear wash over you and accept it as just a feeling, continue past it. Fighting is 10% physical and 90% mental. Have no guilt, no shame, no regret.
1 year ago
Anonymous
well in my case its not so much fear but more of a feeling of getting paralysed. probably its best to go out and pick fights and bars all the time if you want to get rid of it but its literal moron behaviour. either that or simply being bri'ish
1 year ago
Anonymous
>literal moron behaviour
That's something I read on here all the time. "moron behavior." It's like the idea of standing up for yourself physically was invented by a bunch of Africans or something. Everyone on here is just so posh and civilized, right? No, they're just cowardly. The whole 'moron behavior' argument is just a cope for not standing up. You don't have to walk around like bullheaded retard getting into brawls over petty things, however if someone wrongs you or disrespects you and you just take it. It will bother you, you'll stay awake thinking about what you should have done in that moment and it will hurt more. If someone flips you shit, just vocally tell them to go fuck themselves. If they physically come at you, just attack them. Hit them, bite them, grab them by the hair, groin grabs and kicks are really effective.
Also, the whole le gun meme is tard tarded to the maxx. If someone wants to really kill you they'll walk up behind you and shoot you in the back of the head or hit you with a prybar. Getting a gun to shoot an unarmed person is retarded and in most states will just wind you up in a prison cell for the rest of your young adult life.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>It's like the idea of standing up for yourself physically was invented by a bunch of Africans or something.
It kind of is though. Majority of white people in 2022 are total cucks like OP.
1 year ago
Anonymous
I don't care about current year, you can't dwell on that. Black, White, who cares? Learn a combat art and be able to use it in a fight.
1 year ago
Anonymous
I'm just saying, most of the incels here who call physical dominance "moron behavior" unironically jerk off to BLACKED porn.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>not picking fights for no reason is cowardly
no thanks bud. I'd defend my dog with my life but I'm not about to risk getting fucking killed with a nose punch just to look "macho"
Theres numerous interviews talking about how scared mike tyson used to be before fights, and a few decent clips of him almost crying with fear and anxiety, and he's one of the scariest boxers to ever do it.
Everyone gets scared, its how you overcome and deal with fear that matters.
1 year ago
Anonymous
this
there's a reason they say scared men are dangerous
This tbh. I am still deathly afraid of any physical confrontation and feel like I'd get Ktfo'd easily, especially in they're black (not baiting, just a pussy).
I did train boxing and mma for a few years, but I still think I suck and would get it handed to me on the street.
you have pretty shit self esteem, but that comes with doing MA because youre constantly surrounded by strong people. if you train and spar regularly for like a year, id wager that youre at least stronger than 70% of all men within your weight class. Just remember how shit you were at fighting before you sparred regularly, and imagine that 90% of people fight like that because they have no fighting experience and shit conditioning.
Nah I don't believe this. They look more explosive, muscular and aggressive. I had read a study about autopsies on healthy young whites & blacks (died of accidents) and the blacks averagely had more muscle CSA, and read several studies showing they have denser, stronger bones. They excel in many sports too and carry the gene for myostatin deficiency at higher frequencies than other races.
Black guy here, I agree, one shoukdnt be looking fir fights OUTSIDE of the ring.
This cool and really friendly and skilled Dominican boxer I know told med rather run from a physically escalating situation since any fool may carry guns or grudges.
Even more bittersweet, if you do insta KO someone in a bar or street you can get arrested and imprisoned for a dumb battle, forced to to more bros >a fight hungry gigachad may use this tactic to to fight forever in prison
Absolutely. If you've done any amount of sparring as an average fighter, you know how quickly things can go wrong. People that don't compete don't realize how hard fighting is, and how often something you thought would be a milk-run is a near-run thing.
It's just not worth it outside of a competitive context, even if kickboxing, wrestling, and jiujitsu all work really well outside of sport.
>I did train boxing and mma for a few years, but I still think I suck and would get it handed to me on the street.
Honestly you're underselling yourself, of you've trained for even 2 years, you'll best the fuck out of 99% of the people you'll meet irl.
Still, it's dumb to fight in an uncontrolled envious for a shit tons of reasons.
Black guy here, I agree, one shoukdnt be looking fir fights OUTSIDE of the ring.
This cool and really friendly and skilled Dominican boxer I know told med rather run from a physically escalating situation since any fool may carry guns or grudges.
Even more bittersweet, if you do insta KO someone in a bar or street you can get arrested and imprisoned for a dumb battle, forced to to more bros >a fight hungry gigachad may use this tactic to to fight forever in prison
This, but don't learn some faggy art like Krav or BJJ and don't go to some overblown McDojo. Not in any specific order:
-Judo
-Kickboxing
-Muay Thai
-State Unarmed Security programs
-L.I.N.E. Training
Judo and kickboxing are pretty effective as they teach the rudimentary basics that most law enforcement learn which is turned into L.I.N.E or UST.
(Linear Infighting Neural-override Engagement)
(Unarmed Security Training)
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i think he meant psychologically, not how you punch.
I'm guilty of that as well but lately i stopped giving a shit and i just stare people down. I used to be a scrawny kid so I always tried to be polite but now everyone can suck my cock.
a good way to lose your fear is to spar as often as you can, even if you dont go to a ma gym, just get a friend, a pair of gloves and do some light sparring(dont forget mouth guards).
me personally, i have to do quite often to ward off the anxiety.
There was some ginger twat at the bustop the otehr day who just stood infront of me despite me being at the bustop first. Usually you let the people who were there first one (in the civilised world like UK), but he just walked on. I was really angry, but also then started thinking he looked kinda tasty and would probably knock my pussy ass out. I can't even imagine throwing a hard punch, I just imagine fucking it up or it feeling really weak and slow like in a dream.
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Idk about fuck up, but certainly win, and mostly because I am stronger and angrier now. I am the type of dude who would get punched and be like "wtf m8" and act like it didn't hurt but not retaliate at all. Most men have been in atleast a few fights, have some aggression and "fire" in their bellies and have played sports/had scraps to know how to fight somewhat.
I was much better at ground game stuff and ok at boxing, but my muaythai sucked and I sparred recently with a friend that used to box for the Navy, and he span my jaw and wobbled me abit (we were drunk) but it has now made me think even more that one good punch and I'll be out cold with brain damage.
When I started training muay thai a year ago, it opened my eyes like you wouldn't fucking believe.
Even a half assed roundhouse to the ribs with the right technique can fuck you up.
And some people just have that "snap" to their attacks, like even with shit technique somehow they have a natural way of generating a shitload of force with their attacks.
Also most people, even in a controlled sparring session, just build up a shitload of frustration within a short time and sparring turns into a shitfest of throwing potato punches/kicks.
When I started really getting into muay thai, I began to realise how fucking dangerous fighting actually is, and how easy it is to lay out a complete amateur if you just get the basics down and get a solid martial arts foundation for your fighting skills.
Most of those 5 minute tutorials on the net like >yeah just keep your hands up bro >yeah just jab, cross and hook bro >yeah most fights end up on the ground anyway bro, just train some submissions
are fucking suicide instructions for most people.
>are fucking suicide instructions for most people.
And I think fighters have more of an appreciation for size and (potential) strength differences, so they're less likely to write a check with their mouth that their body can't cash. They're more capable than the average blowhard to size someone up and think "This would be a tough fight, and isn't worth it outside of the gym."
This is also true.
I've seen 6'5+, 300lbs+ bouncers with zero fighting skill other than street fighting experience ragdoll several people half their size around at the same time like it's nothing.
Actual big guys are scary, don't know how I would go around fighting one if I absolutely had to.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>Actual big guys are scary, don't know how I would go around fighting one if I absolutely had to.
Do the stuff that's banned in sports and do them quickly.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>don't know how I would go around fighting one if I absolutely had to.
go for the eyes, bollocks and liver
use a weapon
it's not a fair fight anyway so don't handicap yourself
>the "I would just X" krabby magoo brigade, who have never been in a fight, or even fouled in a competition has arrived
If you can't consistently jab someone in the face, you aren't gouging them. If you're in mount, there are better things you can do than gouge them - like elbowing the back of their head into the pavement. The liver shot requires a lot of precision and practice, nor is it illegal in muay thai, boxing, or kickboxing.
The possibility of weapons are why you shouldn't be fighting people in da streetz if you can avoid it, which you can 99% of the time
1 year ago
Anonymous
>don't know how I would go around fighting one if I absolutely had to.
go for the eyes, bollocks and liver
use a weapon
it's not a fair fight anyway so don't handicap yourself
>Actual big guys are scary, don't know how I would go around fighting one if I absolutely had to.
You'd be suprised how easy dislocations are. Either that or CCW
>just do X
I've seen morons getting stabbed and still able to headbutt another dude. If someone is coked up on meth or fentanyl, they'll just bite your ear off.
t. raised in a shithole
1 year ago
Anonymous
>don't know how I would go around fighting one if I absolutely had to.
go for the eyes, bollocks and liver
use a weapon
it's not a fair fight anyway so don't handicap yourself
1 year ago
Anonymous
>Actual big guys are scary, don't know how I would go around fighting one if I absolutely had to.
You'd be suprised how easy dislocations are. Either that or CCW
>"snap" to their attacks
My dad said to me once "Fuck me are your arms whips?" I have barely any mass but I can some how generate a lot of force and hit fast. I think its mainly because I keep one hand tight near my waist then rotate as I hit. I never have any guard up though on one side which I just can't help.
I deadlift 4pl8, do no gi Jui Jitsu and kickboxing. I have been in a fight and had someone grab my balls. I don't want to fight, I want to be friends. If someone did try to start a street fight with me I'd just warn them that I'd shoot them, draw my gun, ask them to stay back, and if they attacked me I'd shoot them.
>had someone grab my balls
I sincerely hope your balls can still produce sperm without issue
Haha, my dude sounds like a Jeet Kune Do pose that is suggested by Bruce Lee.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Really? I consider my stance more karateish, although my technique overall is kinda a mix of karate, boxing, and muay thai for striking. I only got up to a 1st kyu in judo and jujitsu, I remember techniques very well
I have two kids and my balls still work well. Just really don't want to hurt anyone or have my balls squeezed or eyes gauged.
.45 ACP is the worlds best martial art
1 year ago
Anonymous
This is what I think of more Karate stance wise, arms could be more pointed up though.
Yeah, to generate force, you need to counter-rotate the at rest arm and just send forward the striking arm by turning, not by extending or pushing, that's a "shove/tackle" instead of a Strike and "explode" upon impact to generate the force as in Bruce Lee's 1 inch Punch at the correct timing.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Yeah I can never stand in one place and hit someone or have my guard up like in boxing because I wont generate any power. I need to move forwards lmao. I suppose my stance is also kinda mixed with grappling since I'm more suited to throws and locks from doing judo and jujitsu for a whike, kinda just weird overall. I do however have abnormal leg strength and grounding, its impossible to push me over.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Drop your shoulders more (loosen them), step into your attacks, make the steps short and fast and the arm movements like cracking a whip. Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee as Muhammad Ali said. Every martial arts uses this form of movement to generate power other than Myau Thai which is due to more style choice from the rule set of having to have solid posture.
Lethwei is brutal as fuck though, most people wouldn't handle training and sparring.
Also there's barely any gyms in the west where you would be able to actually train lethwei.
>I did train boxing and mma for a few years, but I still think I suck and would get it handed to me on the street.
Honestly you're underselling yourself, of you've trained for even 2 years, you'll best the fuck out of 99% of the people you'll meet irl.
Still, it's dumb to fight in an uncontrolled envious for a shit tons of reasons.
There was some ginger twat at the bustop the otehr day who just stood infront of me despite me being at the bustop first. Usually you let the people who were there first one (in the civilised world like UK), but he just walked on. I was really angry, but also then started thinking he looked kinda tasty and would probably knock my pussy ass out. I can't even imagine throwing a hard punch, I just imagine fucking it up or it feeling really weak and slow like in a dream.
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Idk about fuck up, but certainly win, and mostly because I am stronger and angrier now. I am the type of dude who would get punched and be like "wtf m8" and act like it didn't hurt but not retaliate at all. Most men have been in atleast a few fights, have some aggression and "fire" in their bellies and have played sports/had scraps to know how to fight somewhat.
I was much better at ground game stuff and ok at boxing, but my muaythai sucked and I sparred recently with a friend that used to box for the Navy, and he span my jaw and wobbled me abit (we were drunk) but it has now made me think even more that one good punch and I'll be out cold with brain damage.
>haha yes, I will just cover my chin and everything will be ok
*kick to head* >wow, that hurt, even with my hands up
*punch to face* >oh shit
*kick to body* >oh god I'm winded and I think I'm gonna be sick
*right, left, right, good night* >w-what happened? Why am I laying in a hospital bed
>mfw 58kg but can throw someone whose double my weight easily
I guess I take my dads side in natural strength. Either that or Judo isn't that hard
Just don't be afraid.
This is what I think of more Karate stance wise, arms could be more pointed up though.
Yeah, to generate force, you need to counter-rotate the at rest arm and just send forward the striking arm by turning, not by extending or pushing, that's a "shove/tackle" instead of a Strike and "explode" upon impact to generate the force as in Bruce Lee's 1 inch Punch at the correct timing.
Martial arts are strictly a weight loss / light calisthenic activity in the year 2022
I can legally shoot someone attacking me
And I won't go to jail
[...] >enter fighting thread >talk about guns
you know if somebody wants to kill you, they'll just come up behind you or walk along side you and shoot you in the back of the head. you're not gonna get into a firefight. cope and seethe
If someone wants to put me in a self defense situation where I believe my safety is in jeopardy I will shoot that person until they back down and call the cops
Thankfully in the year 2022 no one starts fights anymore, and I won't feel bad about shooting someone who wants to mug me or is burglarizing my house
Now, if I'm being assassinated like you described? Yeah, I'd probably get smoked. But I'm a good law abiding citizen so I'm not worried about that much. But I do acknowledge that stalking me and catching me off guard with a deadly weapon would be the only way you could beat me in a fight.
You didn't buy a gun for self-defense in any realistic situation, you just want to shoot somebody out of curiosity and for a sense of empowerment. If someone mugs you, you're just gonna give them your stuff. If someone breaks into your 'home.' You're gonna get beat up and probably killed or run out of your own house and you think the police are going to somehow help you. You are a physical exhibit of a modern man. What is the point in lifting if you're just going to talk about how you're going to shoot someone when in reality you're not going to even do that.
Honestly, what was the point in lifting? Was it to impress women?
If lifting is so pointless to you, why do you care so much to broadcast it? If it truly doesn't do anything it'd probably be in your best interest to shut up about it since all the fit guys will just end up kissless virgins by your measure. Meaning less competition for you right?
Just reeks of cope and salt tbh. You're right about the typical self defense mentality bit but your animosity to lifting seems pointless.
1 year ago
Anonymous
I'm sorry to break it to you, friendo. But you are lifting for only 2 reasons in life.
-To become physically stronger to work and fight off attackers to survive
-To gain the positive attention from women to breed
It's just those two, you can make up a hundred different branched-off reasons for lifting, but it boils down to natural selection. You're default mental settings are to survive through being strong and to breed through the want from women.
Why do you lift?
fuck you moron lover
go shit in your hat copper
1 year ago
Anonymous
And? Regardless of the reason you can't really argue that it doesn't have utility. "Hurr durr you die anyway so it's pointless" can easily be equated to literally anything you can do in life. By that logic, why not commit seppuku?
Most people don't lift because they think they're going to get into altercations all the time. The ones that do are either paranoid or actual fighters. Outside of that kind of training you will rarely get into any kind of fights at all unless you're instigating or just a poorfag living in a ghetto.
Plus the majority of normies won't even bother to fight you if you have a decent amount of muscle.
Your comment just reads as cope because you actively think there's no point to lifting, when there clearly is. "You only lift to get girls" just seems like some self-masturbatory righteousness claim when there's nothing wrong with lifting regardless whether you do it for yourself or others.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>And? Regardless of the reason you can't really argue that it doesn't have utility. "Hurr durr you die anyway so it's pointless" can easily be equated to literally anything you can do in life. By that logic, why not commit seppuku?
What are you even saying, when did I ever say lifting was 'pointless'?
>Most people don't lift because they think they're going to get into altercations all the time
Who? That just sounds like a excuse not to lift.
>Plus the majority of normies won't even bother to fight you if you have a decent amount of muscle.
Sounds good, I don't need to mog anyone and I can get a girl easier.
>Your comment just reads as cope because you actively think there's no point to lifting, when there clearly is. "You only lift to get girls" just seems like some self-masturbatory righteousness claim when there's nothing wrong with lifting regardless whether you do it for yourself or others.
Go ahead, try to prove that lifting isn't on the basis of surviving and reproducing. Try to debunk all of natural selection and subconscious initiative because it sounds cringe. It just sounds like you're overcomplicating things.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>What is the point in lifting if you're just going to talk about how you're going to shoot someone when in reality you're not going to even do that.
Honestly, what was the point in lifting? Was it to impress women?
^your words.
>Go ahead, try to prove that lifting isn't on the basis of surviving and reproducing. Try to debunk all of natural selection and subconscious initiative because it sounds cringe. It just sounds like you're overcomplicating things.
Do you not see the irony? None of us give a shit what your reasons are for lifting. Nor care to debate about some moot evolutionary point, people like to fuck and look good... No shit. The only cringe here is you harping on the "you only lift for women" schtick which no one here cares about.
1 year ago
Anonymous
What a weird concession. You're trying to take the whole gun argument and swing it to nihilistic reasoning.
What are you even trying to see anymore? You just don't like the words I said to describe what you actually do?
>The only cringe here is you harping on the "you only lift for women" schtick which no one here cares about. >Continues to reply
>You didn't buy a gun for self-defense in any realistic situation
I literally did though. >you just want to shoot somebody out of curiosity and for a sense of empowerment.
I don't want to shoot anybody. It's just for my safety.
>If someone mugs you, you're just gonna give them your stuff.
If someone points a gun at me, I'm running them over. >If someone breaks into your 'home.' You're gonna get beat up and probably killed or run out of your own house and you think the police are going to somehow help you.
Lmao. Please break into my house as we are now, I can only hope I'd get you in the knees first just so I can fuck with you a little bit. >You are a physical exhibit of a modern man. What is the point in lifting if you're just going to talk about how you're going to shoot someone when in reality you're not going to even do that.
Exercise is for your health. Martial arts is exercise for your health. There's no difference between you and your boxing club than a chinese grandma doing tai-chi in the park. Why do I lift weights? For my health.
>But I'm a good law abiding citizen so I'm not worried about that much
wimp
Can't argue that
>I can legally shoot someone attacking me
And I won't go to jail
yeah you wont go to jail during investigation after standing next to the dead body of the guy you just shot holy fuck dude have a nice day you'll do more
Whatever time I have to spend in the legal rigamarole defending myself in the legal system that I killed/injured someone in self defense is worth less than my life. I'd rather go through legal headache than suffer any injury.
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someone post the cctv webm of the mugger getting disarmed and knocked out or the one with the crowded cafe where he literally a gun from the guy and shoots him
Imagine how much the good guys could have used guns in those situations
I'm sorry to break it to you, friendo. But you are lifting for only 2 reasons in life.
-To become physically stronger to work and fight off attackers to survive
-To gain the positive attention from women to breed
It's just those two, you can make up a hundred different branched-off reasons for lifting, but it boils down to natural selection. You're default mental settings are to survive through being strong and to breed through the want from women.
Why do you lift?
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go shit in your hat copper
>But you are lifting for only 2 reasons in life. >... ... ... >To gain the positive attention from women to breed
maximum kek
1 year ago
Anonymous
>If someone points a gun at me, I'm running them over.
What? >For my health.
Branch reason, you lift for your health to maintain good physique to show to women. >Whatever time I have to spend in the legal rigamarole defending myself in the legal system that I killed/injured someone in self defense is worth less than my life. I'd rather go through legal headache than suffer any injury.
You'll probably get raped by a pack of morons. You just sound like a weakling. >maximum kek
1 year ago
Anonymous
Pointing a gun at someone is visibly a sign you're out to engager my life, legally meaning I have every right to run you over or shoot you.
But then again, this goes back into the "stalk me and assassinate me" where I already agreed that yeah, I'd lose in that situation.
Because your "if you get mugged" implies that I have zero situational awareness beforehand.
>you lift for your health to maintain good physique to show to women.
20,000 keks under the sea
>You'll probably get raped by a pack of morons. You just sound like a weakling.
I bet anyone in that situation wished they had a gun on them, huh?
holy cope >I can only hope I'd get you in the knees first just so I can fuck with you a little bit.
wait? i thought you were a 'law abiding' citizen? isn't unnecessary torture against the law?
But if you're burglarizing my place, you were going to do the exact same to me, so eye for an eye
>Lmao. Please break into my house as we are now, I can only hope I'd get you in the knees first just so I can fuck with you a little bit.
Proved my point, you are a human being capable of curiously diabolic things. You will not go robo-mode and shoot to protect yourself and only protect yourself.
And?
>But I'm a good law abiding citizen so I'm not worried about that much >Please break into my house as we are now, I can only hope I'd get you in the knees first just so I can fuck with you a little bit.
It really, really bothers you that smaller and weaker people can beat you in a fight just by pulling a trigger lol.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Have you been mugged before? Most people will freeze in confusion and denial for a few seconds, also most people are mugged by groups of at least 3 morons, armed usually. But go ahead, try to Dirty Harry your way out.
>I bet anyone in that situation wished they had a gun on them, huh?
halo, esl? Man, you're retarded.
>so eye for an eye
Which law is that Mr. Law Abider?
>And?
And you're not really a law abiding citizen.
>It really, really bothers you that smaller and weaker people can beat you in a fight just by pulling a trigger lol.
It really, really bothers you that I don't even need a weapon to kill you.
1 year ago
Anonymous
No. And I've never been in a fight before. I avoid people who seem fighty and I avoid environments where fights happen.
And I always got my eye on you. Wink.
>also most people are mugged by groups of at least 3 morons,
Oh, well, I guess I'll never be mugged in my entire life then.
>And you're not really a law abiding citizen.
Only for you after you personally challenged me. Burgle into my house so I can shoot you to death. Do it now >It really, really bothers you that I don't even need a weapon to kill you.
Oh.... oh no I'm so scared
*bang*
Oh... look you're dead
1 year ago
Anonymous
>No. And I've never been in a fight before. I avoid people who seem fighty and I avoid environments where fights happen.
So you're just talking out of your ass about what you would do? You're worse than any fudd.
>And I always got my eye on you. Wink.
Unimaginable KEK
1 year ago
Anonymous
>So you're just talking out of your ass about what you would do? You're worse than any fudd.
Don't know what a fudd is. But no, how would I be talking out of my ass about what I would do? I would use the weapon for it's intended purpose.
1 year ago
Anonymous
> I would use the weapon for it's intended purpose.
like kneecapping people and torturing them after. you know your whole argument kinda fell apart after you said you would try to shoot a home intruder in the legs just to fuck with them longer
1 year ago
Anonymous
Just you, because you're a posturing egomaniac on IST trying to argue with me about having a gun for personal safety.
1 year ago
Anonymous
not even the same anon you were talking to i was just reading through the posts, why would you shoot me?
1 year ago
Anonymous
Because you were supposed to burglarize my house to test the theory that >If someone breaks into your 'home.' You're gonna get beat up and probably killed or run out of your own house and you think the police are going to somehow help you.
1 year ago
Anonymous
he didnt say he would he just made a projection that you would back down
1 year ago
Anonymous
>because you're a posturing egomaniac >shoot-to-wound a man and parade around him while proclaiming to be a good law abiding citizen
1 year ago
Anonymous
>You didn't buy a gun for self-defense in any realistic situation
I literally did though. >you just want to shoot somebody out of curiosity and for a sense of empowerment.
I don't want to shoot anybody. It's just for my safety.
>If someone mugs you, you're just gonna give them your stuff.
If someone points a gun at me, I'm running them over. >If someone breaks into your 'home.' You're gonna get beat up and probably killed or run out of your own house and you think the police are going to somehow help you.
Lmao. Please break into my house as we are now, I can only hope I'd get you in the knees first just so I can fuck with you a little bit. >You are a physical exhibit of a modern man. What is the point in lifting if you're just going to talk about how you're going to shoot someone when in reality you're not going to even do that.
Exercise is for your health. Martial arts is exercise for your health. There's no difference between you and your boxing club than a chinese grandma doing tai-chi in the park. Why do I lift weights? For my health.
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maximum kek
I can legally shoot someone attacking me
And I won't go to jail
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If someone wants to put me in a self defense situation where I believe my safety is in jeopardy I will shoot that person until they back down and call the cops
Thankfully in the year 2022 no one starts fights anymore, and I won't feel bad about shooting someone who wants to mug me or is burglarizing my house
Now, if I'm being assassinated like you described? Yeah, I'd probably get smoked. But I'm a good law abiding citizen so I'm not worried about that much. But I do acknowledge that stalking me and catching me off guard with a deadly weapon would be the only way you could beat me in a fight.
>yeah im the greatest fighter in the world, fucking meat heads stand no chance against m-BANG
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what if you dont have a gun at that moment
1 year ago
Anonymous
holy cope >I can only hope I'd get you in the knees first just so I can fuck with you a little bit.
wait? i thought you were a 'law abiding' citizen? isn't unnecessary torture against the law?
1 year ago
Anonymous
>Lmao. Please break into my house as we are now, I can only hope I'd get you in the knees first just so I can fuck with you a little bit.
Proved my point, you are a human being capable of curiously diabolic things. You will not go robo-mode and shoot to protect yourself and only protect yourself.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>But I'm a good law abiding citizen so I'm not worried about that much >Please break into my house as we are now, I can only hope I'd get you in the knees first just so I can fuck with you a little bit.
>I can legally shoot someone attacking me
And I won't go to jail
yeah you wont go to jail during investigation after standing next to the dead body of the guy you just shot holy fuck dude have a nice day you'll do more
>yeah im the greatest fighter in the world, fucking meat heads stand no chance against m-BANG
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someone post the cctv webm of the mugger getting disarmed and knocked out or the one with the crowded cafe where he literally a gun from the guy and shoots him
you know if somebody wants to kill you, they'll just come up behind you or walk along side you and shoot you in the back of the head. you're not gonna get into a firefight. cope and seethe
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>bring up guns in fightfag thread >Watch as the tears well up in their eyes and they reward you with (you)s
I bench 3 plate and even I know technology is far stronger than the human body alone
Anon I enjoy fighting as much as the next guy but you're delusional if you think any amount of training will make you a match for a 130lb cardio skeleton armed with a m4 and a combat load.
Technology>>>>>
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1 year ago
Anonymous
nobody ever said the human body can somehow outkill a gun
Wise, IST is full of 20 year old retards that think "fighting" is like in the movies, you're going to have this cool honorable fight and knock a dude out with a super punch and everyone will cheer.
"Fights" in the real world means some asshole getting mad at you and then 30 minutes later you go to leave and 12 of his friends are waiting for you to kick your head in until all your limbs bend the wrong way. Just don't fucking get involved in this shit, don't go to high risk places alone, and don't be unarmed.
I used to have the same feeling. I just wasn't a violent person. I couldn't physically retaliate. It wasnt even a fear of failure it was just some internal sense of restraint where I couldn't be made to fight back.
Then I took a really shitty job that had me toe to toe with actual pieces of shit on a nightly basis. Hostile bums, drunk college kids, pimps, thieves, gou name it. Luckily my managers hated them all so they let me use my own discretion when dealing with a lot of them and I learned quickly that the people you're most likely to fight are completely unreasonable shitbirds in the first place, and can only be dealt with using naked force.
After that, I became more "real" I guess. I only had to punch one or two people in my life, but now when I square off in a confrontation I'm not "playing" tough. I am actually a mean, remorseless son of a bitch who WILL fight back and I WILL cheat and when I win I WILL make you regret pissing me off. No ego, no posturing, just sheer hostility. I dont even consider the fact that I'll probably lose because I frankly dont care in the moment. When most guys smell that attitude on you, they either back down because they're fake or because they're the exact same way and they respect the game.
>especially in they're black
this is the one major advantage blacks have in any fight, is that everyone is intimidated by them. the vast majority of these dudes are obese or scrawny manlets. the only blacks that can give me problems are the ones that are like 6'6 and athletic with the huge wingspans. or the muscle bound fast ones. but these are legitimately quite rare. most street blacks are scrawny and short from eating a diet of hot cheetos and sprite their entire life. the only thing you have to worry about with blacks is their friends and them sucker punching you when you're not looking.
>haha yes, I will just cover my chin and everything will be ok
*kick to head* >wow, that hurt, even with my hands up
*punch to face* >oh shit
*kick to body* >oh god I'm winded and I think I'm gonna be sick
*right, left, right, good night* >w-what happened? Why am I laying in a hospital bed
>haha yes, I will just cover my chin and everything will be ok
*punch to body*
*drops hands from head*
*punch to head* >w-what happened? Why am I laying in a hospital bed?
This, but don't learn some faggy art like Krav or BJJ and don't go to some overblown McDojo. Not in any specific order:
-Judo
-Kickboxing
-Muay Thai
-State Unarmed Security programs
-L.I.N.E. Training
Judo and kickboxing are pretty effective as they teach the rudimentary basics that most law enforcement learn which is turned into L.I.N.E or UST.
I love his story about qhen he tried to buy weed for some of his dutch mate when they visited him in japan while he was king of pancrase. A couple yakuza dudes rolled up, saw who it was, 360'd and walked away
Poor Sean. He almost parried that punch but just missed. But Alex is a real beast; looking forward to his next fight. Would be sick if he beats Izzy. Actually looking forward to Sean's next fight too, he's hilarious.
I deadlift 4pl8, do no gi Jui Jitsu and kickboxing. I have been in a fight and had someone grab my balls. I don't want to fight, I want to be friends. If someone did try to start a street fight with me I'd just warn them that I'd shoot them, draw my gun, ask them to stay back, and if they attacked me I'd shoot them.
Enjoy kiddos. 🙂 What happens to gays who don't know how to fight and never been to a fight. Learn to fight at least myau thai and greco-roman if you are a big guy.
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>enter fighting thread >talk about guns
you know if somebody wants to kill you, they'll just come up behind you or walk along side you and shoot you in the back of the head. you're not gonna get into a firefight. cope and seethe
My size alone has won most of the fights I've been in, everyone knows little dudes don't win that's a movie trope. Ive seen more fights than most people and rarely does the little guys win.
I've been boxing for about 4 years now and I have two things to say about this
1) If you don't spar, you haven't really "trained" and would barely be better than an untrained person on the street regardless of how long you've been training for
2) Even if you're trained, spar and know you could kick 99% of people's asses, you should be getting away from fights at all costs, both for yourself and for your opponent
You are one punch away from knocking someone out on concrete and killing him or putting him into a coma (or the opposite if you're the one who can't fight). De-escalate. It doesn't matter how much of a pussy people think you are, it's not worth you losing your life, be it prison or death. Fighting should literally be the last resort if you're absolutely stuck and can't run away. A guy I used to spar with every week at my boxing gym is currently awaiting trial for a dumb fight and the other guy isn't even dead or in a coma, just badly hurt (and the other guy's the one who started the fight).
What if you're with a loved one? You can't run away and leave them alone with the assailant. I'm all for de-escalating but if you're with your girlfriend or your family then you have no choice but to protect them.
I agree to an extent, if someone's in actual danger you obviously have to step in, but if you're getting into a fight because someone catcalled your girlfriend, that's not the same thing and it's just your pride doing the talking. Having to take that sucks and tbH it'll probably lose you the respect of your girlfriend, but again, is it really worth it?
>Having to take that sucks and tbH it'll probably lose you the respect of your girlfriend, but again, is it really worth it?
Just tell them to go fuck themselves like lmao, find a medium. If they say something just tell them off, if the try to attack you or her then you attack. In reality, if you get into a altercation or physical fight. You'll probably get stopped by a few good neighbors or one of you will get knocked out. You can't be a pussy man, I'm sorry but that's the truth. If you just take disrespect from everyone you won't ever succeed and you won't actually be any better than if you didn't. Lose-lose, at least try.
>If they say something just tell them of
And that's how you get sucked punched, thinking you're still in the stage of using your words, while the other guy has decided to escalate to fists.
Is he right next to you? Do you not look at them? What?
1 year ago
Anonymous
Where do you think arguments happen? They happen at bad breath range. What happens is that you're telling him to fuck off or whatever, and you get punched mid sentence. If someone throws a haymaker from their waist instead of putting their dukes up, if you think you can still control the situation with harsh words - you won't see it coming.
Obviously, nothing is deterministic in a fight. You could react, your spidey sense could tingle, and so on. However, the modal fight is an argument that turns into a guy who doesn't realize he's in a fight getting sucked punched by someone who's decided that he wants to escalate beyond harsh words.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Usually, they spit on me, so I hit 'first.'
1 year ago
Anonymous
That's fair. In pretty much all of these scenarios, the guy that hits first, and especially the guy that gets the first takedown, comes out with less damage.
1 year ago
Anonymous
He who hesitates, is lost.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Or just avoid places where groups of black men congregate to get drunk and hit on women - especially if you are not black yourself. Do that and you've removed yourself from a plurality, if not a majority, of the situations where people get into fights.
Doesn't sparring cause brain damage? It seems that you can't win in this life. You either train in fighting and build up brain damage because of it, or live your life in hiding and in the hope you will be able to protect your loved ones one day.
just look up tueller drills. inside 20 feet you will get your ass kicked if you have a holstered gun, and no one is starting shit from a 100 yards away
That's 6 whole fucking meters, and in most of the tueller drill demonstrations the guy with the gun has no problem unholstering his gun in the 2 seconds I was talking about and taking aim at the other person.
Sorry man, IRL any sane person would just fuck off if they saw another person reaching for a gun, not thinking "yeah I can take him, I only got 6 meters to clear" lmao.
>That's 6 whole fucking meters >not thinking "yeah I can take him, I only got 6 meters to clear"
yeah that's the point, fights don't even start from that far, they start with posturing and shoving basically point blank range. you will never get your gun out in a street fight situation if someone actually wants to cave your skull in, it's just not gonna happen. if you're actually that scared of physical altercations, you should probably just carry a knife.
>fights don't even start from that far
They do, often you'll have some dumb retard hollering at you and talking shit from afar or while coming at you.
>they start with posturing and shoving basically point blank range
If you allow that shit while knowing you have a gun, you are retarded and deserve to get your skull bashed in.
And how braindead does someone have to be not to be able to read the room and realise "oh shit, that dude has a problem with me and wants to throw hands"?
>you will never get your gun out in a street fight situation if someone actually wants to cave your skull in
You absolutely can, just as you would be able to draw a knife, even on the ground.
>you should probably just carry a knife
True. But learning how to fight using a knife is much harder than learning how to operate a gun.
>fightfag can't stand the reality that a gun can give the power to shit on all his fighting experience even to a small woman >"b-b-buh you look like a pussy from far away I b-bet!"
Lmao okay anon, time for bed.
1 year ago
Anonymous
im just busting chops man dont start crying now you may get your hands wet and you wont be able to show off your piece from 40 feet away
1 year ago
Anonymous
>"m-muh drils, m-muh imaginary scenarios, m-muh supreme hooks from the hip" >anon, gun > fists >"b-b-but don't start crying h-haha, I'm j-just joking"
Yeah cool anon, bedtime story is over, time to sleep.
Why are you retarded enough that you let someone that's clearly aggressive towards you get up in your FUCKING FACE while you know you have the advantage of having a gun on you?
Even the fucking pigs get taught to hold their arm out and keep distance while drawing their gun when an aggressive moron approaches them.
1 year ago
Anonymous
If you care so much about your safety why don't you run away?
1 year ago
Anonymous
>why don't you run away?
That's what should be done in most of those scenarios, whether you have a gun or not.
Fighting is not worth the risk.
But if someone is retarded/coked up enough to ignore the fact that you just pulled a gun on them, then clearly they're ready to eat a bullet.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Anon, just run away. Why are you so dead set about shooting someone from afar?
1 year ago
Anonymous
>literally saying that you should run away in most cases >"aNoN wHy ArE yOu SeT aBoUt ShOoTiNg SoMeOnE???"
kek
1 year ago
Anonymous
that's called brandishing and will get your CCW revoked and possibly you sent to jail. you pull the gun out when you're ready to shoot and if you do that because someone is approaching you, you also get sent to jail for killing an unarmed man with no possbility of claiming self-defense.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>that's called [mutt law]
Kek, I feel sorry for you 56% abominations
1 year ago
Anonymous
what country allows you to carry a gun around and allows self-defense AND also doesn't have brandishing laws? can't think of one.
1 year ago
Anonymous
maybe Texas
1 year ago
Anonymous
>what country allows you to [end a moron if they start shit]
Eastern yurop.
1 year ago
Anonymous
but specifically which country? where are you from, anon? I'm starting to think you may be LARPing and have never touched a gun in your life
1 year ago
Anonymous
The more east you go, the better the laws regarding gun usage.
Brandishing is a non-issue, since we don't give out guns to kids as soon as they turn 8 lmao.
1 year ago
Anonymous
you mentioned a scenario where you would effectively be brandishing so clearly it's an issue. again, which country, anon? why are you dodging the question, clearly it shouldn't be a problem to name one if you have a gun and are from eastern europe.
1 year ago
Anonymous
ntayrt, but -outside of Western Europe, but increasingly inside it- the laws are much more like guidelines.
1 year ago
Anonymous
dude which country do you live in lmao enough of the riddles
1 year ago
Anonymous
>have argument with LARPer >call out LARPer on his LARP >never seen again
many such cases
1 year ago
Anonymous
Talk about bad incentives. It's as though American law is designed to incentivize either meekness or shooting people, with anything in-between getting punished more harshly.
There certainly is a eugenic argument for removing violent these people from the gene pool, but nobody dying or getting injured because a gun was flashed, is a pretty good outcome.
1 year ago
Anonymous
laws are naturally meant to be broken, you probably broke 3 laws yesterday without even knowing
People who talk about shooting someone always are the same retards who are scared to pull the trigger. Saw it already. Learn a martial art is a good hobby and will teach you that avoiding a fight is the best option in a dangerous situation.
And cops have a lot of formal and informal legal protections in shootouts that you, as a private citizen, either do not, or will have to pay out the ass for.
yeah, just pointing that because im reading he anon with imaginary scenarios thinking he somehow is John Wick. Im not saying to not use your weapon if you have the chance but if you think shooting someone is easy as it looks then you are 100% wrong. Have a chat with a cop or a guy who served in the middle east and you will get that fixed.
You've seen what IST posters look like from their meetups. Fat guys who give off low self-esteem vibes, and who get winded walking up the stairs. They are genuinely insecure.
Their ideas about what constitutes self-defense in practice also got BTFO'd when BPR, SaigaMarine, and a other guys either went to jail or made plea deals in one of the MN chimpouts of 2014-15.
Because most people that don't live in shitholes and/or don't attend events with lots of drunk people won't need to throw hands ever in their life, and with a gun even an old person could fuck shit up.
Just don't go to the bars that morons go to. It is that simple. If you go to white-people venues, and aren't a blowhard or hitting on dude's girlfriends, you probably won't ever get in a fight in your life.
>Just don't go to bars
I agree, bars are for losers and anglos, as I said already.
1 year ago
Anonymous
I would say that you must be fun at parties, but we both know that you are never invited.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>you must be fun at parties
I am, I just don't go to places specifically made for losers, aka bars.
1 year ago
Anonymous
how that anime convention going?
1 year ago
Anonymous
Dunno, I don't go to places made specifically for losers, aka bars and anime conventions.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Just don't go to the bars that morons go to. It is that simple. If you go to white-people venues, and aren't a blowhard or hitting on dude's girlfriends, you probably won't ever get in a fight in your life.
>don't go to bars, you'll get into fights
Are guntrannies really such loser NEETs that they think this?
>this wagecuck moron is unironically going to bars
keksimvs
I only said that you won't need to use your fists if you don't live a shithole. Clearly doesn't apply to mutts, so you might've gotten things mixed up.
>haw haw fucking gym bros we could fuck you up any time we wanted >NOOOO YOU CANT JUST ONE UP ME WITH GUNS NOOOOOOO IM SUPPOSE TO BE THE STRONGEST ONE HERE NOOOOOOOO
Thats why
Because martialchuds always cry whenever you tell them a gun cancels out years of their training.
It's like watching a nippon peasant crying about samurai getting cut down by a machine gun.
funny thing i read a bunch of people who tell you that you should avoid fighting if you know martial arts and the other retards talking about guns and how they will shoot someone if they have the chance
This tbh. I am still deathly afraid of any physical confrontation and feel like I'd get Ktfo'd easily, especially in they're black (not baiting, just a pussy).
I did train boxing and mma for a few years, but I still think I suck and would get it handed to me on the street.
do you think present you would fuck up past you that hadn't trained? why would it be easy? because you're more familiar with the situation and can pull some level of knowledge and technique out of your ass if needed. that's most people you walk by. most people shy away from physical confrontation (and for good reason) and they are wholly unequipped for it. if you did martials arts for "a few years" then you're leaps and bounds ahead of a similarly sized but untrained individual. that does not guarantee success but it certainly slides it more in your favor.
Good way to lose the battle before fighting it
There was some ginger twat at the bustop the otehr day who just stood infront of me despite me being at the bustop first. Usually you let the people who were there first one (in the civilised world like UK), but he just walked on. I was really angry, but also then started thinking he looked kinda tasty and would probably knock my pussy ass out. I can't even imagine throwing a hard punch, I just imagine fucking it up or it feeling really weak and slow like in a dream.
Idk about fuck up, but certainly win, and mostly because I am stronger and angrier now. I am the type of dude who would get punched and be like "wtf m8" and act like it didn't hurt but not retaliate at all. Most men have been in atleast a few fights, have some aggression and "fire" in their bellies and have played sports/had scraps to know how to fight somewhat.
I was much better at ground game stuff and ok at boxing, but my muaythai sucked and I sparred recently with a friend that used to box for the Navy, and he span my jaw and wobbled me abit (we were drunk) but it has now made me think even more that one good punch and I'll be out cold with brain damage.
>I can't even imagine throwing a hard punch, I just imagine fucking it up or it feeling really weak and slow like in a dream.
I have this too and I have no idea how to overcome it
Do you get scared of sinewy looking men, like they are rigid and solid?
If I had to walk the streets with an ex at night, I would make them walk a certain route that I felt was safer, constantly analysing the environment and listening out for loud noises, changing route if I heard boistrous lad-chatter.
I would talk really quietly and tell them to talk quiter if they spoke to loudly or laughed or something, anything that would attract attention to us, and get angry when I got home for them not behaving "safely" enough.
Extent your arm quickly without tensing the muscle until full extension and turn you body into the punch
i think he meant psychologically, not how you punch.
I'm guilty of that as well but lately i stopped giving a shit and i just stare people down. I used to be a scrawny kid so I always tried to be polite but now everyone can suck my cock.
a good way to lose your fear is to spar as often as you can, even if you dont go to a ma gym, just get a friend, a pair of gloves and do some light sparring(dont forget mouth guards).
me personally, i have to do quite often to ward off the anxiety.
Let the fear wash over you and accept it as just a feeling, continue past it. Fighting is 10% physical and 90% mental. Have no guilt, no shame, no regret.
well in my case its not so much fear but more of a feeling of getting paralysed. probably its best to go out and pick fights and bars all the time if you want to get rid of it but its literal moron behaviour. either that or simply being bri'ish
>literal moron behaviour
That's something I read on here all the time. "moron behavior." It's like the idea of standing up for yourself physically was invented by a bunch of Africans or something. Everyone on here is just so posh and civilized, right? No, they're just cowardly. The whole 'moron behavior' argument is just a cope for not standing up. You don't have to walk around like bullheaded retard getting into brawls over petty things, however if someone wrongs you or disrespects you and you just take it. It will bother you, you'll stay awake thinking about what you should have done in that moment and it will hurt more. If someone flips you shit, just vocally tell them to go fuck themselves. If they physically come at you, just attack them. Hit them, bite them, grab them by the hair, groin grabs and kicks are really effective.
Also, the whole le gun meme is tard tarded to the maxx. If someone wants to really kill you they'll walk up behind you and shoot you in the back of the head or hit you with a prybar. Getting a gun to shoot an unarmed person is retarded and in most states will just wind you up in a prison cell for the rest of your young adult life.
>It's like the idea of standing up for yourself physically was invented by a bunch of Africans or something.
It kind of is though. Majority of white people in 2022 are total cucks like OP.
I don't care about current year, you can't dwell on that. Black, White, who cares? Learn a combat art and be able to use it in a fight.
I'm just saying, most of the incels here who call physical dominance "moron behavior" unironically jerk off to BLACKED porn.
>not picking fights for no reason is cowardly
no thanks bud. I'd defend my dog with my life but I'm not about to risk getting fucking killed with a nose punch just to look "macho"
Theres numerous interviews talking about how scared mike tyson used to be before fights, and a few decent clips of him almost crying with fear and anxiety, and he's one of the scariest boxers to ever do it.
Everyone gets scared, its how you overcome and deal with fear that matters.
this
there's a reason they say scared men are dangerous
you have pretty shit self esteem, but that comes with doing MA because youre constantly surrounded by strong people. if you train and spar regularly for like a year, id wager that youre at least stronger than 70% of all men within your weight class. Just remember how shit you were at fighting before you sparred regularly, and imagine that 90% of people fight like that because they have no fighting experience and shit conditioning.
>getting into physical altercations because someone cut you off at the bus stop
ngmi
how about you start sparring you gay
Fucking cuckold gay kys
Blacks are pussies unless they outnumber
Nah I don't believe this. They look more explosive, muscular and aggressive. I had read a study about autopsies on healthy young whites & blacks (died of accidents) and the blacks averagely had more muscle CSA, and read several studies showing they have denser, stronger bones. They excel in many sports too and carry the gene for myostatin deficiency at higher frequencies than other races.
you mutts are seriously deranged
How much did you charge boxing to train it?
shuttup
Black guy here, I agree, one shoukdnt be looking fir fights OUTSIDE of the ring.
This cool and really friendly and skilled Dominican boxer I know told med rather run from a physically escalating situation since any fool may carry guns or grudges.
Even more bittersweet, if you do insta KO someone in a bar or street you can get arrested and imprisoned for a dumb battle, forced to to more bros
>a fight hungry gigachad may use this tactic to to fight forever in prison
... What? I get you're black, but at least make an effort.
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Absolutely. If you've done any amount of sparring as an average fighter, you know how quickly things can go wrong. People that don't compete don't realize how hard fighting is, and how often something you thought would be a milk-run is a near-run thing.
It's just not worth it outside of a competitive context, even if kickboxing, wrestling, and jiujitsu all work really well outside of sport.
When I started training muay thai a year ago, it opened my eyes like you wouldn't fucking believe.
Even a half assed roundhouse to the ribs with the right technique can fuck you up.
And some people just have that "snap" to their attacks, like even with shit technique somehow they have a natural way of generating a shitload of force with their attacks.
Also most people, even in a controlled sparring session, just build up a shitload of frustration within a short time and sparring turns into a shitfest of throwing potato punches/kicks.
When I started really getting into muay thai, I began to realise how fucking dangerous fighting actually is, and how easy it is to lay out a complete amateur if you just get the basics down and get a solid martial arts foundation for your fighting skills.
Most of those 5 minute tutorials on the net like
>yeah just keep your hands up bro
>yeah just jab, cross and hook bro
>yeah most fights end up on the ground anyway bro, just train some submissions
are fucking suicide instructions for most people.
>are fucking suicide instructions for most people.
And I think fighters have more of an appreciation for size and (potential) strength differences, so they're less likely to write a check with their mouth that their body can't cash. They're more capable than the average blowhard to size someone up and think "This would be a tough fight, and isn't worth it outside of the gym."
This is also true.
I've seen 6'5+, 300lbs+ bouncers with zero fighting skill other than street fighting experience ragdoll several people half their size around at the same time like it's nothing.
Actual big guys are scary, don't know how I would go around fighting one if I absolutely had to.
>Actual big guys are scary, don't know how I would go around fighting one if I absolutely had to.
Do the stuff that's banned in sports and do them quickly.
>the "I would just X" krabby magoo brigade, who have never been in a fight, or even fouled in a competition has arrived
If you can't consistently jab someone in the face, you aren't gouging them. If you're in mount, there are better things you can do than gouge them - like elbowing the back of their head into the pavement. The liver shot requires a lot of precision and practice, nor is it illegal in muay thai, boxing, or kickboxing.
The possibility of weapons are why you shouldn't be fighting people in da streetz if you can avoid it, which you can 99% of the time
>just do X
I've seen morons getting stabbed and still able to headbutt another dude. If someone is coked up on meth or fentanyl, they'll just bite your ear off.
t. raised in a shithole
>don't know how I would go around fighting one if I absolutely had to.
go for the eyes, bollocks and liver
use a weapon
it's not a fair fight anyway so don't handicap yourself
>Actual big guys are scary, don't know how I would go around fighting one if I absolutely had to.
You'd be suprised how easy dislocations are. Either that or CCW
>"snap" to their attacks
My dad said to me once "Fuck me are your arms whips?" I have barely any mass but I can some how generate a lot of force and hit fast. I think its mainly because I keep one hand tight near my waist then rotate as I hit. I never have any guard up though on one side which I just can't help.
>had someone grab my balls
I sincerely hope your balls can still produce sperm without issue
Haha, my dude sounds like a Jeet Kune Do pose that is suggested by Bruce Lee.
Really? I consider my stance more karateish, although my technique overall is kinda a mix of karate, boxing, and muay thai for striking. I only got up to a 1st kyu in judo and jujitsu, I remember techniques very well
.45 ACP is the worlds best martial art
This is what I think of more Karate stance wise, arms could be more pointed up though.
Yeah, to generate force, you need to counter-rotate the at rest arm and just send forward the striking arm by turning, not by extending or pushing, that's a "shove/tackle" instead of a Strike and "explode" upon impact to generate the force as in Bruce Lee's 1 inch Punch at the correct timing.
Yeah I can never stand in one place and hit someone or have my guard up like in boxing because I wont generate any power. I need to move forwards lmao. I suppose my stance is also kinda mixed with grappling since I'm more suited to throws and locks from doing judo and jujitsu for a whike, kinda just weird overall. I do however have abnormal leg strength and grounding, its impossible to push me over.
Drop your shoulders more (loosen them), step into your attacks, make the steps short and fast and the arm movements like cracking a whip. Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee as Muhammad Ali said. Every martial arts uses this form of movement to generate power other than Myau Thai which is due to more style choice from the rule set of having to have solid posture.
I have two kids and my balls still work well. Just really don't want to hurt anyone or have my balls squeezed or eyes gauged.
If people think Muay Thai is intense, wait until they hear about Lethwei
Lethwei is brutal as fuck though, most people wouldn't handle training and sparring.
Also there's barely any gyms in the west where you would be able to actually train lethwei.
Lethwei is where untalented cans who couldn't make it in MT go to beat up Cambodian cans they have 20# and 4" on.
>especially in they're black
you mutts really are too far gone at this point, there is no saving you anymore
>desu
...
You have to go back
tbh senpai you are a newfag
Nah he's way funnier than Conor. Also was on a winning streak, something Conor hasn't done in a while.
>I did train boxing and mma for a few years, but I still think I suck and would get it handed to me on the street.
Honestly you're underselling yourself, of you've trained for even 2 years, you'll best the fuck out of 99% of the people you'll meet irl.
Still, it's dumb to fight in an uncontrolled envious for a shit tons of reasons.
Don't have children, don't pass on whatever it is that you have
>mfw 58kg but can throw someone whose double my weight easily
I guess I take my dads side in natural strength. Either that or Judo isn't that hard
Just don't be afraid.
>especially in they're black (not baiting
Doubt
If they are black one be stronger. Top % of white beats top % of black. Or if you are sadly in the majority fight smart it's something they can't do.
Martial arts are strictly a weight loss / light calisthenic activity in the year 2022
what are you going to do when some 6'4 moron comes up behind you in your prison cell because you went to prison for shooting an unarmed man?
I can legally shoot someone attacking me
And I won't go to jail
If someone wants to put me in a self defense situation where I believe my safety is in jeopardy I will shoot that person until they back down and call the cops
Thankfully in the year 2022 no one starts fights anymore, and I won't feel bad about shooting someone who wants to mug me or is burglarizing my house
Now, if I'm being assassinated like you described? Yeah, I'd probably get smoked. But I'm a good law abiding citizen so I'm not worried about that much. But I do acknowledge that stalking me and catching me off guard with a deadly weapon would be the only way you could beat me in a fight.
You didn't buy a gun for self-defense in any realistic situation, you just want to shoot somebody out of curiosity and for a sense of empowerment. If someone mugs you, you're just gonna give them your stuff. If someone breaks into your 'home.' You're gonna get beat up and probably killed or run out of your own house and you think the police are going to somehow help you. You are a physical exhibit of a modern man. What is the point in lifting if you're just going to talk about how you're going to shoot someone when in reality you're not going to even do that.
Honestly, what was the point in lifting? Was it to impress women?
>you're not going to shoot someone in self defense
why wouldn't he.
that's what the 2nd ammendment is for gay.
Yeah, but he's not going to shoot someone in actual 'self-defense.' He's gonna shoot a man in Reno, just to watch him die.
If lifting is so pointless to you, why do you care so much to broadcast it? If it truly doesn't do anything it'd probably be in your best interest to shut up about it since all the fit guys will just end up kissless virgins by your measure. Meaning less competition for you right?
Just reeks of cope and salt tbh. You're right about the typical self defense mentality bit but your animosity to lifting seems pointless.
I'm sorry to break it to you, friendo. But you are lifting for only 2 reasons in life.
-To become physically stronger to work and fight off attackers to survive
-To gain the positive attention from women to breed
It's just those two, you can make up a hundred different branched-off reasons for lifting, but it boils down to natural selection. You're default mental settings are to survive through being strong and to breed through the want from women.
Why do you lift?
go shit in your hat copper
And? Regardless of the reason you can't really argue that it doesn't have utility. "Hurr durr you die anyway so it's pointless" can easily be equated to literally anything you can do in life. By that logic, why not commit seppuku?
Most people don't lift because they think they're going to get into altercations all the time. The ones that do are either paranoid or actual fighters. Outside of that kind of training you will rarely get into any kind of fights at all unless you're instigating or just a poorfag living in a ghetto.
Plus the majority of normies won't even bother to fight you if you have a decent amount of muscle.
Your comment just reads as cope because you actively think there's no point to lifting, when there clearly is. "You only lift to get girls" just seems like some self-masturbatory righteousness claim when there's nothing wrong with lifting regardless whether you do it for yourself or others.
>And? Regardless of the reason you can't really argue that it doesn't have utility. "Hurr durr you die anyway so it's pointless" can easily be equated to literally anything you can do in life. By that logic, why not commit seppuku?
What are you even saying, when did I ever say lifting was 'pointless'?
>Most people don't lift because they think they're going to get into altercations all the time
Who? That just sounds like a excuse not to lift.
>Plus the majority of normies won't even bother to fight you if you have a decent amount of muscle.
Sounds good, I don't need to mog anyone and I can get a girl easier.
>Your comment just reads as cope because you actively think there's no point to lifting, when there clearly is. "You only lift to get girls" just seems like some self-masturbatory righteousness claim when there's nothing wrong with lifting regardless whether you do it for yourself or others.
Go ahead, try to prove that lifting isn't on the basis of surviving and reproducing. Try to debunk all of natural selection and subconscious initiative because it sounds cringe. It just sounds like you're overcomplicating things.
>What is the point in lifting if you're just going to talk about how you're going to shoot someone when in reality you're not going to even do that.
Honestly, what was the point in lifting? Was it to impress women?
^your words.
>Go ahead, try to prove that lifting isn't on the basis of surviving and reproducing. Try to debunk all of natural selection and subconscious initiative because it sounds cringe. It just sounds like you're overcomplicating things.
Do you not see the irony? None of us give a shit what your reasons are for lifting. Nor care to debate about some moot evolutionary point, people like to fuck and look good... No shit. The only cringe here is you harping on the "you only lift for women" schtick which no one here cares about.
What a weird concession. You're trying to take the whole gun argument and swing it to nihilistic reasoning.
What are you even trying to see anymore? You just don't like the words I said to describe what you actually do?
>The only cringe here is you harping on the "you only lift for women" schtick which no one here cares about.
>Continues to reply
fuck you moron lover
>You didn't buy a gun for self-defense in any realistic situation
I literally did though.
>you just want to shoot somebody out of curiosity and for a sense of empowerment.
I don't want to shoot anybody. It's just for my safety.
>If someone mugs you, you're just gonna give them your stuff.
If someone points a gun at me, I'm running them over.
>If someone breaks into your 'home.' You're gonna get beat up and probably killed or run out of your own house and you think the police are going to somehow help you.
Lmao. Please break into my house as we are now, I can only hope I'd get you in the knees first just so I can fuck with you a little bit.
>You are a physical exhibit of a modern man. What is the point in lifting if you're just going to talk about how you're going to shoot someone when in reality you're not going to even do that.
Exercise is for your health. Martial arts is exercise for your health. There's no difference between you and your boxing club than a chinese grandma doing tai-chi in the park. Why do I lift weights? For my health.
Can't argue that
Whatever time I have to spend in the legal rigamarole defending myself in the legal system that I killed/injured someone in self defense is worth less than my life. I'd rather go through legal headache than suffer any injury.
Imagine how much the good guys could have used guns in those situations
>But you are lifting for only 2 reasons in life.
>... ... ...
>To gain the positive attention from women to breed
maximum kek
>If someone points a gun at me, I'm running them over.
What?
>For my health.
Branch reason, you lift for your health to maintain good physique to show to women.
>Whatever time I have to spend in the legal rigamarole defending myself in the legal system that I killed/injured someone in self defense is worth less than my life. I'd rather go through legal headache than suffer any injury.
You'll probably get raped by a pack of morons. You just sound like a weakling.
>maximum kek
Pointing a gun at someone is visibly a sign you're out to engager my life, legally meaning I have every right to run you over or shoot you.
But then again, this goes back into the "stalk me and assassinate me" where I already agreed that yeah, I'd lose in that situation.
Because your "if you get mugged" implies that I have zero situational awareness beforehand.
>you lift for your health to maintain good physique to show to women.
20,000 keks under the sea
>You'll probably get raped by a pack of morons. You just sound like a weakling.
I bet anyone in that situation wished they had a gun on them, huh?
But if you're burglarizing my place, you were going to do the exact same to me, so eye for an eye
And?
It really, really bothers you that smaller and weaker people can beat you in a fight just by pulling a trigger lol.
Have you been mugged before? Most people will freeze in confusion and denial for a few seconds, also most people are mugged by groups of at least 3 morons, armed usually. But go ahead, try to Dirty Harry your way out.
>I bet anyone in that situation wished they had a gun on them, huh?
halo, esl? Man, you're retarded.
>so eye for an eye
Which law is that Mr. Law Abider?
>And?
And you're not really a law abiding citizen.
>It really, really bothers you that smaller and weaker people can beat you in a fight just by pulling a trigger lol.
It really, really bothers you that I don't even need a weapon to kill you.
No. And I've never been in a fight before. I avoid people who seem fighty and I avoid environments where fights happen.
And I always got my eye on you. Wink.
>also most people are mugged by groups of at least 3 morons,
Oh, well, I guess I'll never be mugged in my entire life then.
>And you're not really a law abiding citizen.
Only for you after you personally challenged me. Burgle into my house so I can shoot you to death. Do it now
>It really, really bothers you that I don't even need a weapon to kill you.
Oh.... oh no I'm so scared
*bang*
Oh... look you're dead
>No. And I've never been in a fight before. I avoid people who seem fighty and I avoid environments where fights happen.
So you're just talking out of your ass about what you would do? You're worse than any fudd.
>And I always got my eye on you. Wink.
Unimaginable KEK
>So you're just talking out of your ass about what you would do? You're worse than any fudd.
Don't know what a fudd is. But no, how would I be talking out of my ass about what I would do? I would use the weapon for it's intended purpose.
> I would use the weapon for it's intended purpose.
like kneecapping people and torturing them after. you know your whole argument kinda fell apart after you said you would try to shoot a home intruder in the legs just to fuck with them longer
Just you, because you're a posturing egomaniac on IST trying to argue with me about having a gun for personal safety.
not even the same anon you were talking to i was just reading through the posts, why would you shoot me?
Because you were supposed to burglarize my house to test the theory that
>If someone breaks into your 'home.' You're gonna get beat up and probably killed or run out of your own house and you think the police are going to somehow help you.
he didnt say he would he just made a projection that you would back down
>because you're a posturing egomaniac
>shoot-to-wound a man and parade around him while proclaiming to be a good law abiding citizen
what if you dont have a gun at that moment
holy cope
>I can only hope I'd get you in the knees first just so I can fuck with you a little bit.
wait? i thought you were a 'law abiding' citizen? isn't unnecessary torture against the law?
>Lmao. Please break into my house as we are now, I can only hope I'd get you in the knees first just so I can fuck with you a little bit.
Proved my point, you are a human being capable of curiously diabolic things. You will not go robo-mode and shoot to protect yourself and only protect yourself.
>But I'm a good law abiding citizen so I'm not worried about that much
>Please break into my house as we are now, I can only hope I'd get you in the knees first just so I can fuck with you a little bit.
>But I'm a good law abiding citizen so I'm not worried about that much
wimp
>I can legally shoot someone attacking me
And I won't go to jail
yeah you wont go to jail during investigation after standing next to the dead body of the guy you just shot holy fuck dude have a nice day you'll do more
someone post the cctv webm of the mugger getting disarmed and knocked out or the one with the crowded cafe where he literally a gun from the guy and shoots him
You live in America. If you shoot a precious moron, you're going to jail.
>bring up guns in fightfag thread
>Watch as the tears well up in their eyes and they reward you with (you)s
I bench 3 plate and even I know technology is far stronger than the human body alone
>bragging about 3pl8lmao bench
Anon I enjoy fighting as much as the next guy but you're delusional if you think any amount of training will make you a match for a 130lb cardio skeleton armed with a m4 and a combat load.
Technology>>>>>
ability
nobody ever said the human body can somehow outkill a gun
>especially in they're black
Same, no way I'm winning a 1v5 (at best).
Wise, IST is full of 20 year old retards that think "fighting" is like in the movies, you're going to have this cool honorable fight and knock a dude out with a super punch and everyone will cheer.
"Fights" in the real world means some asshole getting mad at you and then 30 minutes later you go to leave and 12 of his friends are waiting for you to kick your head in until all your limbs bend the wrong way. Just don't fucking get involved in this shit, don't go to high risk places alone, and don't be unarmed.
I used to have the same feeling. I just wasn't a violent person. I couldn't physically retaliate. It wasnt even a fear of failure it was just some internal sense of restraint where I couldn't be made to fight back.
Then I took a really shitty job that had me toe to toe with actual pieces of shit on a nightly basis. Hostile bums, drunk college kids, pimps, thieves, gou name it. Luckily my managers hated them all so they let me use my own discretion when dealing with a lot of them and I learned quickly that the people you're most likely to fight are completely unreasonable shitbirds in the first place, and can only be dealt with using naked force.
After that, I became more "real" I guess. I only had to punch one or two people in my life, but now when I square off in a confrontation I'm not "playing" tough. I am actually a mean, remorseless son of a bitch who WILL fight back and I WILL cheat and when I win I WILL make you regret pissing me off. No ego, no posturing, just sheer hostility. I dont even consider the fact that I'll probably lose because I frankly dont care in the moment. When most guys smell that attitude on you, they either back down because they're fake or because they're the exact same way and they respect the game.
>especially in they're black
this is the one major advantage blacks have in any fight, is that everyone is intimidated by them. the vast majority of these dudes are obese or scrawny manlets. the only blacks that can give me problems are the ones that are like 6'6 and athletic with the huge wingspans. or the muscle bound fast ones. but these are legitimately quite rare. most street blacks are scrawny and short from eating a diet of hot cheetos and sprite their entire life. the only thing you have to worry about with blacks is their friends and them sucker punching you when you're not looking.
how did I end up in the squared circle half naked?
DANGA DO DANGA DO DANG, AND THATS IT
literally just walk forward, with your hands glued to your chin. Grab em close, and take em to the floor when you get close.
>haha yes, I will just cover my chin and everything will be ok
*kick to head*
>wow, that hurt, even with my hands up
*punch to face*
>oh shit
*kick to body*
>oh god I'm winded and I think I'm gonna be sick
*right, left, right, good night*
>w-what happened? Why am I laying in a hospital bed
>haha yes, I will just cover my chin and everything will be ok
*punch to body*
*drops hands from head*
*punch to head*
>w-what happened? Why am I laying in a hospital bed?
fixed it for you
>he doesn’t even know what a hook is
Lmao stuff like that let’s everyone that has done MA for more than half a year know that you don’t fight
if you want to learn how to fight then go to martial arts and do sparring.
This, but don't learn some faggy art like Krav or BJJ and don't go to some overblown McDojo. Not in any specific order:
-Judo
-Kickboxing
-Muay Thai
-State Unarmed Security programs
-L.I.N.E. Training
Judo and kickboxing are pretty effective as they teach the rudimentary basics that most law enforcement learn which is turned into L.I.N.E or UST.
(Linear Infighting Neural-override Engagement)
(Unarmed Security Training)
>This, but don't learn some faggy art like Krav or BJJ and don't go to some overblown McDojo
>proceeds to list meme martial arts
Kek
>meme marital arts
>judo
>kickboxing
>actual military training
no refunds at your blowjob jitsu 'dojo'?
i remember watching some 5'10 jarhead bouncer whammy a moron with slap boxing techniques, hilarious to watch because it worked really well for the jar
bas ruten lifted pretty hard tho, so do most champions (most)
Bas Ruten? More like Based Ruten
I love his story about qhen he tried to buy weed for some of his dutch mate when they visited him in japan while he was king of pancrase. A couple yakuza dudes rolled up, saw who it was, 360'd and walked away
Why not the best of both worlds?
Be strong, able to strike and grapple?
Be a man.
Poor Sean. He almost parried that punch but just missed. But Alex is a real beast; looking forward to his next fight. Would be sick if he beats Izzy. Actually looking forward to Sean's next fight too, he's hilarious.
He's annoying like conor.
>yeah, i post this gay larp thread on IST everyday and there's nothing you can do-
>*BANNED*
ufc should have gotten bas rutten to do commentary. hes so good at it
I deadlift 4pl8, do no gi Jui Jitsu and kickboxing. I have been in a fight and had someone grab my balls. I don't want to fight, I want to be friends. If someone did try to start a street fight with me I'd just warn them that I'd shoot them, draw my gun, ask them to stay back, and if they attacked me I'd shoot them.
https://www.mixedmartialarts.com/news/mma-enthusiast-fights-powerlifter-on-street-kills-him
Enjoy kiddos. 🙂 What happens to gays who don't know how to fight and never been to a fight. Learn to fight at least myau thai and greco-roman if you are a big guy.
Only lower class people fight. Not really saying that’s a good thing but that’s the way it is
>yeah im the greatest fighter in the world, fucking meat heads stand no chance against m-BANG
>enter fighting thread
>talk about guns
you know if somebody wants to kill you, they'll just come up behind you or walk along side you and shoot you in the back of the head. you're not gonna get into a firefight. cope and seethe
this post brought to you by gay that can't deadlift 4pl8s and is oddly confrontatianal.
My size alone has won most of the fights I've been in, everyone knows little dudes don't win that's a movie trope. Ive seen more fights than most people and rarely does the little guys win.
I've been boxing for about 4 years now and I have two things to say about this
1) If you don't spar, you haven't really "trained" and would barely be better than an untrained person on the street regardless of how long you've been training for
2) Even if you're trained, spar and know you could kick 99% of people's asses, you should be getting away from fights at all costs, both for yourself and for your opponent
You are one punch away from knocking someone out on concrete and killing him or putting him into a coma (or the opposite if you're the one who can't fight). De-escalate. It doesn't matter how much of a pussy people think you are, it's not worth you losing your life, be it prison or death. Fighting should literally be the last resort if you're absolutely stuck and can't run away. A guy I used to spar with every week at my boxing gym is currently awaiting trial for a dumb fight and the other guy isn't even dead or in a coma, just badly hurt (and the other guy's the one who started the fight).
Don't. fucking. get. into. street. fights.
What if you're with a loved one? You can't run away and leave them alone with the assailant. I'm all for de-escalating but if you're with your girlfriend or your family then you have no choice but to protect them.
I agree to an extent, if someone's in actual danger you obviously have to step in, but if you're getting into a fight because someone catcalled your girlfriend, that's not the same thing and it's just your pride doing the talking. Having to take that sucks and tbH it'll probably lose you the respect of your girlfriend, but again, is it really worth it?
>Having to take that sucks and tbH it'll probably lose you the respect of your girlfriend, but again, is it really worth it?
Just tell them to go fuck themselves like lmao, find a medium. If they say something just tell them off, if the try to attack you or her then you attack. In reality, if you get into a altercation or physical fight. You'll probably get stopped by a few good neighbors or one of you will get knocked out. You can't be a pussy man, I'm sorry but that's the truth. If you just take disrespect from everyone you won't ever succeed and you won't actually be any better than if you didn't. Lose-lose, at least try.
>If they say something just tell them of
And that's how you get sucked punched, thinking you're still in the stage of using your words, while the other guy has decided to escalate to fists.
Is he right next to you? Do you not look at them? What?
Where do you think arguments happen? They happen at bad breath range. What happens is that you're telling him to fuck off or whatever, and you get punched mid sentence. If someone throws a haymaker from their waist instead of putting their dukes up, if you think you can still control the situation with harsh words - you won't see it coming.
Obviously, nothing is deterministic in a fight. You could react, your spidey sense could tingle, and so on. However, the modal fight is an argument that turns into a guy who doesn't realize he's in a fight getting sucked punched by someone who's decided that he wants to escalate beyond harsh words.
Usually, they spit on me, so I hit 'first.'
That's fair. In pretty much all of these scenarios, the guy that hits first, and especially the guy that gets the first takedown, comes out with less damage.
He who hesitates, is lost.
Or just avoid places where groups of black men congregate to get drunk and hit on women - especially if you are not black yourself. Do that and you've removed yourself from a plurality, if not a majority, of the situations where people get into fights.
Doesn't sparring cause brain damage? It seems that you can't win in this life. You either train in fighting and build up brain damage because of it, or live your life in hiding and in the hope you will be able to protect your loved ones one day.
It does and it's not worth it get a gun or a tazer
just look up tueller drills. inside 20 feet you will get your ass kicked if you have a holstered gun, and no one is starting shit from a 100 yards away
That's 6 whole fucking meters, and in most of the tueller drill demonstrations the guy with the gun has no problem unholstering his gun in the 2 seconds I was talking about and taking aim at the other person.
Sorry man, IRL any sane person would just fuck off if they saw another person reaching for a gun, not thinking "yeah I can take him, I only got 6 meters to clear" lmao.
>That's 6 whole fucking meters
>not thinking "yeah I can take him, I only got 6 meters to clear"
yeah that's the point, fights don't even start from that far, they start with posturing and shoving basically point blank range. you will never get your gun out in a street fight situation if someone actually wants to cave your skull in, it's just not gonna happen. if you're actually that scared of physical altercations, you should probably just carry a knife.
>Having to take that sucks and tbH it'll probably lose you the respect of your girlfriend, but again, is it really worth it?
yeah or wear a dress and never leave your house
Yeah, Zim-Zam got beaten up pretty badly before he was able to draw and shoot. That's really not atypical against a non-cowardly assailant.
>fights don't even start from that far
They do, often you'll have some dumb retard hollering at you and talking shit from afar or while coming at you.
>they start with posturing and shoving basically point blank range
If you allow that shit while knowing you have a gun, you are retarded and deserve to get your skull bashed in.
And how braindead does someone have to be not to be able to read the room and realise "oh shit, that dude has a problem with me and wants to throw hands"?
>you will never get your gun out in a street fight situation if someone actually wants to cave your skull in
You absolutely can, just as you would be able to draw a knife, even on the ground.
>you should probably just carry a knife
True. But learning how to fight using a knife is much harder than learning how to operate a gun.
Guns are just the great equalizer.
>They do, often you'll have some dumb retard hollering at you and talking shit from afar or while coming at you.
do you look like a pussy from far away also?
>fightfag can't stand the reality that a gun can give the power to shit on all his fighting experience even to a small woman
>"b-b-buh you look like a pussy from far away I b-bet!"
Lmao okay anon, time for bed.
im just busting chops man dont start crying now you may get your hands wet and you wont be able to show off your piece from 40 feet away
>"m-muh drils, m-muh imaginary scenarios, m-muh supreme hooks from the hip"
>anon, gun > fists
>"b-b-but don't start crying h-haha, I'm j-just joking"
Yeah cool anon, bedtime story is over, time to sleep.
post a vocaroo of yourself
https://vocaroo.com/
dude, post it
>If you allow that shit while knowing you have a gun
So? You're already showing off your gun before they approach you? What?
Why are you retarded enough that you let someone that's clearly aggressive towards you get up in your FUCKING FACE while you know you have the advantage of having a gun on you?
Even the fucking pigs get taught to hold their arm out and keep distance while drawing their gun when an aggressive moron approaches them.
If you care so much about your safety why don't you run away?
>why don't you run away?
That's what should be done in most of those scenarios, whether you have a gun or not.
Fighting is not worth the risk.
But if someone is retarded/coked up enough to ignore the fact that you just pulled a gun on them, then clearly they're ready to eat a bullet.
Anon, just run away. Why are you so dead set about shooting someone from afar?
>literally saying that you should run away in most cases
>"aNoN wHy ArE yOu SeT aBoUt ShOoTiNg SoMeOnE???"
kek
that's called brandishing and will get your CCW revoked and possibly you sent to jail. you pull the gun out when you're ready to shoot and if you do that because someone is approaching you, you also get sent to jail for killing an unarmed man with no possbility of claiming self-defense.
>that's called [mutt law]
Kek, I feel sorry for you 56% abominations
what country allows you to carry a gun around and allows self-defense AND also doesn't have brandishing laws? can't think of one.
maybe Texas
>what country allows you to [end a moron if they start shit]
Eastern yurop.
but specifically which country? where are you from, anon? I'm starting to think you may be LARPing and have never touched a gun in your life
The more east you go, the better the laws regarding gun usage.
Brandishing is a non-issue, since we don't give out guns to kids as soon as they turn 8 lmao.
you mentioned a scenario where you would effectively be brandishing so clearly it's an issue. again, which country, anon? why are you dodging the question, clearly it shouldn't be a problem to name one if you have a gun and are from eastern europe.
ntayrt, but -outside of Western Europe, but increasingly inside it- the laws are much more like guidelines.
dude which country do you live in lmao enough of the riddles
>have argument with LARPer
>call out LARPer on his LARP
>never seen again
many such cases
Talk about bad incentives. It's as though American law is designed to incentivize either meekness or shooting people, with anything in-between getting punished more harshly.
There certainly is a eugenic argument for removing violent these people from the gene pool, but nobody dying or getting injured because a gun was flashed, is a pretty good outcome.
laws are naturally meant to be broken, you probably broke 3 laws yesterday without even knowing
Yeah, nobody is advocating trying to fight somebody that's holding a gun.
People who talk about shooting someone always are the same retards who are scared to pull the trigger. Saw it already. Learn a martial art is a good hobby and will teach you that avoiding a fight is the best option in a dangerous situation.
a guy with a gun will hesitate too much
Taking out your gun and shooting is not as easy as you think when you are in a confrontation. Any cop will tell you this
And cops have a lot of formal and informal legal protections in shootouts that you, as a private citizen, either do not, or will have to pay out the ass for.
yeah, just pointing that because im reading he anon with imaginary scenarios thinking he somehow is John Wick. Im not saying to not use your weapon if you have the chance but if you think shooting someone is easy as it looks then you are 100% wrong. Have a chat with a cop or a guy who served in the middle east and you will get that fixed.
why do gunchuds always shit up fight threads? its like they are compensating or feel insecure about not knowing how to fight
You've seen what IST posters look like from their meetups. Fat guys who give off low self-esteem vibes, and who get winded walking up the stairs. They are genuinely insecure.
Their ideas about what constitutes self-defense in practice also got BTFO'd when BPR, SaigaMarine, and a other guys either went to jail or made plea deals in one of the MN chimpouts of 2014-15.
Because most people that don't live in shitholes and/or don't attend events with lots of drunk people won't need to throw hands ever in their life, and with a gun even an old person could fuck shit up.
>don't go to bars, you'll get into fights
Are guntrannies really such loser NEETs that they think this?
>don't go to bars
This. Bars are for losers and anglos.
Just don't go to the bars that morons go to. It is that simple. If you go to white-people venues, and aren't a blowhard or hitting on dude's girlfriends, you probably won't ever get in a fight in your life.
>Just don't go to bars
I agree, bars are for losers and anglos, as I said already.
I would say that you must be fun at parties, but we both know that you are never invited.
>you must be fun at parties
I am, I just don't go to places specifically made for losers, aka bars.
how that anime convention going?
Dunno, I don't go to places made specifically for losers, aka bars and anime conventions.
>this wagecuck moron is unironically going to bars
keksimvs
>never seen someone fight in his life
>start talking about scenearios in fighting where he will use his gun
so just a larper
Who are you talking to, schizo?
with you moron. who else im replying
I only said that you won't need to use your fists if you don't live a shithole. Clearly doesn't apply to mutts, so you might've gotten things mixed up.
>haw haw fucking gym bros we could fuck you up any time we wanted
>NOOOO YOU CANT JUST ONE UP ME WITH GUNS NOOOOOOO IM SUPPOSE TO BE THE STRONGEST ONE HERE NOOOOOOOO
Thats why
Because martialchuds always cry whenever you tell them a gun cancels out years of their training.
It's like watching a nippon peasant crying about samurai getting cut down by a machine gun.
do you really think people get into martial arts to start picking fights on the streets? kek. What the fuck are you even doing on IST you fat shit?
Half of this thread is just a bunch of MA power fantasy gayry, so yeah, I think some of you need to take your meds.
funny thing i read a bunch of people who tell you that you should avoid fighting if you know martial arts and the other retards talking about guns and how they will shoot someone if they have the chance
>you should avoid fighting
Good.
>guns and how they will shoot someone if they have the chance
Also good.
You forgot the part where there's a bunch of martialfags crying about guns.
Is that motherfucking BAS RUTEN??