Why do muscly guys always say that muscles don't get you pussy? Are they just hoarding all the pussy for themselves?
Why do muscly guys always say that muscles don't get you pussy? Are they just hoarding all the pussy for themselves?
Why do muscly guys always say that muscles don't get you pussy? Are they just hoarding all the pussy for themselves?
Muscles aren't what get you pussy, it helps your confidence though. Better self image.
I was on a night out, as a skinny guy, asked a girls sister(Absolute munter) if she wanted a drink. Well the girl was more impressed than the munter who I got the drink for and she was chatting to me all night, told me I was bold for buying her sister a drink and dancing.
She was much more attractive and successful than her sister, she ran her own business.
This. I haven't changed my hobbies or interests at all since lifting (aside from becoming obsessed with fitness and nutrition) and I've got women harassing me for my attention at all times. Only difference is I actually like my body and act like I'm attractive. It's hard to get that sort of confidence by faking it, despite what people will tell you. Only downside is developing body dysmorphia and thinking you look like shit despite being an adonis in the eyes of everyone around you.
So what happened? Talk is cheap. If she didn't wanna shag she just wanted more drinks.
blackpillers were right all along
>Raja and Schnitzel
Jason Blaha tier sock account names
You know, after all the thing's I've read online, I have come to realize one fact:
You can't trust the opinions that people post that they WANT you to believe they believe. They say that, but then suddenly they do differently. EVERYONE is a liar and a hypocrite. Especially people on social media.
change "people" for "woman" adn you are absolutely right.
Got dam gimme some of Raja
Its a small part, but you still have to put the work in. Which is annoying as fuck. why are girls like this?
For us average looking 6.5/10 fucks we have to woo girls, we have to do tricks like a fucking dog to get our little ding dong wet. I have to spend all night pretending to be interesting and probably spend a chunk of cash on a dinner.
Is it because they want to pretend theyre not "easy" ??
It’s all about desirability. When they already want you, it should feel effortless. Wooing, playing games, jestermaxxing isn’t at all necessary. Sex happens because they wanted it to happen. No convincing needed. There’s women I offered to take out on a date and they instead invite me over to fuck to skip the bs. That’s my experience as an above average in looks with sex appeal
We 4-5/10 have to be flawless in other categories if we have hope.
>smart
>wealthy
>normal
>fit
I'm neither of those, and intelligence is strongly correlated with wealthy making someone whom is wealthy is probably also intelligent.
Being normal is likely impossible as i have a neurotic brain. Can't be helped.
Fit might elevate me to maybe a 6/10 but will still have problems due to the other reasons.
I just have to exist and do the best i can at that. Getting genetically filtered is probably a good thing overall.
>We 4-5/10 have to be flawless in other categories if we have hope.
Or you can just move to another country, possibly a second world one an go to a small city and be like a king there
why stay in a disadvantageous position in some american hellhole megacity instead of finding an advantageous position?
>for us average looking
Everyone has to do this with women, the only exception is very handsome men (who are also always athletic) with average or ugly women. If the woman's SMV is far below yours, then you don't really need to do much
if she's near you or above you then you do. it's why most famous/rich people aren't like DiCaprio or Depp but like Musk or Bezos, who are betas
Yes I think it's partly a manipulation like when successful people say it was never about the money for them or some bullshit. They probably believe that but it's obviously not true
That being said I do know some guys who are in great shape but strike out because they don't have the best status or social skills so it's not entirely wrong either
muscles alone wont do it, girls require carefully crafted lies the muscles are kind of like the down payment on the house.
lean guys are repulsive to women
it's almost as bad as being a dyel skinny boy
women want thick boys
Depends on where the muscle is. If you are natty lifting you just need to delt+upperback+arm+forearm max then get upper chest for definition and ab work. Try to get to 15% bf% minimum. 10% ideal, the leaner you are the better your face will be too. As women age their preferences may change a bit.
>be an awkward incel
>go to gym
>be an awkward incel with muscles
that's the prob, anon.
No, they just don't know what gets pussy
99% of men have no idea what actually gets you pussy
>uhh women only like money
>uhh women only like famous guys
>uhh women only like handsome guys
all copes by men who fail with women. Muscles absolutely help do better with women. There's no guarantee though, she's not going to just open her legs and write "insert penis here" above her pussy if she sees you having muscles
I think so. Same as my chad friend keeps telling me women are whores and not worth it and then he just keeps fucking new girls every week
>women are whores and not worth it and then he just keeps fucking new girls every week
That's exactly he gets laid. Treating women like that turns them on, as long as you really believe it
It's the same with "oh my god such an asshole" thing they say. Or some men thinking that "you can get away with anything"
that "anything" isn't REALLY anything. It's just being an asshole. Getting away with REALLY anything would be getting away with pajeet i love you bb show bob spam for a week straight, but there are exactly 0 men who would get away with this.
Men just don't know how the fuck women work.
I regularly get laid without having to act like an asshole. Do you even get laid? LMAO!
>He thinks there is one way to get laid
You don't actually get laid.
Your perception of "asshole" is also probably skewed. Guaranteed something that you do with girls would be perceived as assholish by one of their beta orbiters
me: i get pussy
you: reeeee you don’t get laid no freaking way you have to be an asshole!
>LMAO!
go back to plebbit sperg
LMAO! what a fag! recommend me when if your go-to gay porn websites while you’re at it!
>LMAO! what a fag! recommend me when if your go-to gay porn websites while you’re at it!
LMAO! outted yourself as a cock sucker for having that pic saved!
>LMAO! outted yourself as a cock sucker for having that pic saved!
LMAO! post another one gay boy! your folder must be in the thousands!
>LMAO! post another one gay boy! your folder must be in the thousands!
that’s right my submissive bottom bitch, post another one for daddy LMAO!
>that’s right my submissive bottom bitch, post another one for daddy LMAO!
haha yes give me another one you beta cuck LMAO!
>haha yes give me another one you beta cuck LMAO!
you don't get laid lmao
you have all these images saved bud, YOU don’t get laid LMAO!
>you have all these images saved bud, YOU don’t get laid LMAO!
bold words from somebody who gets no pussy lmao
i can just tell you’ve never touched a woman LMAO!
>i can just tell you’ve never touched a woman LMAO!
ironic considering you never get laid lmao
weird way to admit that you've never had sex LMAO!
>weird way to admit that you've never had sex LMAO!
projecting lmoa
you’re an incel virgin who has never seen a pussy in his life LMAO!
>you’re an incel virgin who has never seen a pussy in his life LMAO!
projecting projector lmoa lol
I'm a giga-autismo
I know that no matter how good my face is or how fit I get I will get 0 pussy while a shorter fatter uglier male with decent social skill will get some
It's copium for not escaping dyel mode and never getting/being to austistic to capitalize on mires
Muscles do get you pussy if you're not a sperg
Yes
How do you meet these women? Dating apps or something?
Just through Instagram usually, tinder too, bumble
The usual stuff
Damn I really need to get an ig. I’ve been putting it off but it seems like it makes it so much easier to get laid if you’re not an ugly incel
Why is “Chad” fucking these kind of women kek
>These kind of women
Oh my sweet young pupil you still don’t understand the lesson. This isn’t a kind of woman anon, they’re all like this. Someone like me said and did things like this to your mom once.
Fucking mid women and talking like a 50 shades of grey sperg is so Chad
You should have quit while you were ahead imo. The longer you dirty talk over text the more likely you are to give her the ick
I know I typically don’t go so heavy but I was on tren. I learned a long time ago to show rather than tell, but it’s fun sometimes to let the know exactly what they’re getting into.
Victimizing women is one thing, but when you’re hot enough that they victimize themselves for you?
Pure pants cooming euphoria for this narcissist
Post body
nice you into trans?
nice try “Chad” now post one where it’s a Stacy and not a 4/10 alt tinder bitch lmoa lol
I’m not gonna apologize for having a type lmao.
i’m just seething because you’re having sex and i’m stuck at home posting some of my many saved reddit onion wojak pics i collected over the years
>i’m just seething because you’re having sex and i’m stuck at home posting some of my many saved reddit onion wojak pics i collected over the years
imagine getting this genuinely shitter shattered over IST posts
touch grass and have sex lmaolol
Look at this schizo replying to himself haha!
>Look at this schizo replying to himself haha!
getting a little mad? a little angry perhaps? gonna cry?
Because you need PROXIMITY more than looks. Looks don't do anything if the object of your desire CANNOT SEE YOU in the first place.
Flee from sexual immorality. Every other sin a person commits is outside the body, but the sexually immoral person sins against his own body.
>That medli profile pic
Neat
Bros... I bet he hasn't even played The Wind Waker.
They assume girls are supposed to approach them since the've made it when in reality you are supposed to be primed up and ready to approach the moment you get even a sliver of an IOI or choosing signal. Basically, autistic retards raised by single mothers and feminism think toxic masculinity is real and don't approach for fear of being #metoo'd. They believe women are out equals and should approach when this couldn't be more contrary to female nature
Nah I had girls approaxh me lmao
It's just that the slightly above average girls love playing mind games or playing hard to get since they think this hir is like one of their teen dramas back on the say or some shit like euphoria
only fatties, uglies, oldies, brownies, and uglies approach. guarantee every single girl who's approached you fits one of those parameters.
lol you’re just average or ugly if that is your personal observation
I've banged 9s but they didn't approach me. Are you saying 9s approach you on a consistent basis? Interesting. While I find this hard to believe there are circumstances where this is a possibility ie sitting in VIP with hella bottles or shilling on your supercar. What's your height and post body. I'm curious. Unless you're just eating and larping to win the argument in which case yawn
>only fatties, uglies, oldies, brownies, and uglies approach
>no
>Are you saying 9s approach you on a consistent basis? Interesting
god you’re autistic
>Unless you're just eating and larping to win the argument in which case yawn
cringe. thanks for the laugh
>didn't post body
larp confirmed
kys goober
go fuck your fatties, uglies, oldies, brownies, and uglies. you don’t bang above 5/10’s lmao
ok goober
ok ugly larper
This is the key signifier type writing of an incel.
>This is the key signifier type writing of an incel.
This is the key signifier type writing of an SJW liberal shill raider from another website that wants to demonize men who are happily alone in peace.
Glad you can admit your shortcomings.
>Glad you can admit your shortcomings.
If you consider anyone avoiding a hateful wrathful spiteful resentful petty hypocrite such as yourself as coming short of anything, then let me tell you something, LOTS of people are going to disappoint you in this world. You don't hate them because they can't find love or be with anyone, you don't even hate them because they're alone. You hate them because they rather be alone than be with someone as HORRIBLE as you. You are disgusted by this harsh truth because it puts a mirror directly in front of you and shows you that YOU are the reason. YOU are the problem. You project this onto others. Everyone sees directly through it like the emperors new clothes.
I’m not reading that incel manifesto but thanks anyway.
>I’m not reading that incel manifesto but thanks anyway.
Glad you can admit your shortcomings.
Glad you can admit you’re short.
>Glad you can admit you’re short.
still taller than you'll ever be
Post some more incel theories and Christ cuck rhetoric. I need a good laugh.
>Post some more incel theories and Christ cuck rhetoric.
I don't need to, you've been thoroughly defeated in the internet argument.
>I need a good laugh.
look in the mirror
sex is literally the most important value on planet earth
it causes death and life all like
>sex is literally the most important value on planet earth
>it causes death and life all like
Then Jesus was led up by the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted by the devil. 2 And when He had fasted forty days and forty nights, afterward He was hungry. 3 Now when the tempter came to Him, he said, “If You are the Son of God, command that these stones become bread.”
4 But He answered and said, “It is written, ‘Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God.’ ”
5 Then the devil took Him up into the holy city, set Him on the pinnacle of the temple, 6 and said to Him, “If You are the Son of God, throw Yourself down. For it is written:
‘He shall give His angels charge over you,’
and,
‘In their hands they shall bear you up,
Lest you dash your foot against a stone.’ ”
7 Jesus said to him, “It is written again, ‘You shall not [a]tempt the Lord your God.’ ”
8 Again, the devil took Him up on an exceedingly high mountain, and showed Him all the kingdoms of the world and their glory. 9 And he said to Him, “All these things I will give You if You will fall down and worship me.”
10 Then Jesus said to him, [b]“Away with you, Satan! For it is written, ‘You shall worship the Lord your God, and Him only you shall serve.’ ”
11 Then the devil left Him, and behold, angels came and ministered to Him.
sex havers = healthy and happy
non-sex havers = unhealthy and not happy
simple as
>sex havers = healthy and happy
>non-sex havers = unhealthy and not happy
>simple as
15 Do not love the world or the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him. 16 For all that is in the world—the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life—is not of the Father but is of the world.
yea jesus was a literal incel no shit he was say shit like this
>yea jesus was a literal incel no shit he was say shit like this
Jesus wasn't an incel because he got nailed more than you will ever be.
heh
ya
you forgot to sprinkle a M’Lady in your story and tip your fedora
what
>They assume girls are supposed to approach them since the've made it when in reality you are supposed to be primed up and ready to approach the moment you get even a sliver of an IOI or choosing signal. Basically, autistic retards raised by single mothers and feminism think toxic masculinity is real and don't approach for fear of being #metoo'd. They believe women are out equals and should approach when this couldn't be more contrary to female nature
These toxic feminist sjw people are the EXACT ONES who bullshit people and hope someone walks up to them without saying anything so that they can say no and freak out and ruin their life, or say yes and ruin the rest of someones life. The only women anyone should date are the ones that are direct and literal and have the balls to walk up to the man. Most women are not interested anyway and everything is always an automatic no anyhow. So if interested women automatically get up and ask, they will go directly to who they're interested in and that's it. Nobody gets their time wasted anymore.
>Smiling at you
>Shooting short glances your way
>Darting her eyes away when you look at her
>Making prolonged eye contact with you
>Running fingers through her hair
>Licking her lips
>Exposing her neck
>Tilting her head
>Turning in her seat towards you
>Crossing her legs towards you
>Bending over in front of you
>Playing with or fixing her hair in front of you
If a girl does any one of these things, in her retarded girl brain she is shooting her shot. She expects you to "get it" and be socially aware and confident enough to read this body language and approach. SHE WILL NOT SAY THE FIRST WORD TO YOU, EVER! Yes it's retarded but this is how girls are.
This message brought to you by a sex having sex haver millenichad trynna help a zoomie out
This is why smart guys only date autistic women that have the BALLS to walk right up to you and say "I WANT YOU OKAY, DATE ME" otherwise you are going to live your whole life with this monster that gets angry you can't read her mind when she doesn't say shit to you and then hits you in real life when she wakes up from a nightmare where you cheated on her.
Honestly if men only date autistic women, more women who are literal and direct will exist on earth in the future. Think about that.
if you have a 3/10 face or a 3/10 personality the muscles aren't enough to compensate
t. a 3/10 personality (fuck women)
>a bunch of natty dyel virgins talking about how muscles do or dont get you laid
/fit/, the board
Hording, TOO muscular, low social skills/zero "style".
bros need to stop with the cope.
bros need to stop listening to women,
"Noooo muscles are patriarchal and a hateful by product of toxic masculinity, blah blah."
Just read the fucking science.
Abstract
"Evolutionary scientists propose that exaggerated secondary sexual characteristics are cues of genes that increase offspring viability or reproductive success. In six studies the hypothesis that muscularity is one such cue is tested. As predicted, women rate muscular men as sexier, more physically dominant and volatile, and less committed to their mates than nonmuscular men. Consistent with the inverted-U hypothesis of masculine traits, men with moderate muscularity are rated most attractive. Consistent with past research on fitness cues, across two measures, women indicate that their most recent short-term sex partners were more muscular than their other sex partners (ds = .36, .47). Across three studies, when controlling for other characteristics (e.g., body fat), muscular men rate their bodies as sexier to women (partial rs = .49-.62) and report more lifetime sex partners (partial rs = .20-.27), short-term partners (partial rs = .25-.28), and more affairs with mated women (partial r = .28)."
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/0146167207303022
What this guy said. When women say they don’t like muscles they mean they don’t want you to look like jay cutler. Guess what? Not a single fucking person reading this is going to look like Jay Cutler no matter what they do. If you have.1% genetics, train like an animal while cycling test tren dbol deca etc. for years then you might get too big. It’s not going to happen. Those guys seem to go for bodybuilder chicks anyway who actually give a fuck how amazing your teardrops and quad sweep are. I actually sort of believed the meme but didn’t care because I’ve been with my girl for over 10 years so as far as work/social life goes the effect my appearance has on other men is unironically more important than whether women think my 18 inch biceps (with a pump) are gross or not and I love working out and bodybuilding. I’ve actually been pretty surprised at how much more female attention I’ve gotten and cashiers, retail workers smile at me and flirt etc. again it doesn’t matter because I’m not dating and god willing won’t be again but in my experience women definitely DO like muscles especially on a lean physique
>I don’t care how rich a guy is
>penis size doesn’t matter guys with big dicks are usually bad in bed
>etc. etc.
You can’t really blame women they kind of have to pretend to go along with this shit or people will think they’re whores
>You can’t really blame women they kind of have to pretend to go along with this shit or people will think they’re whores
Great fucking post, Exactly. Don't forget this.
Nothing by itself will get you pussy. Even cold hard cash has limits - a prostitute will fuck anything that tangentially resembles a man, but there are lots of cases where they have refused someone for various reasons, for example some won't take disabled people, some refuse by race to the chagrin of sjws lol. Getting pussy is a combination of everything, not one thing or another.
You have to look at it from an evolutionary perspective. Having muscles show you’re disciplined and it’s always going to be an edge competing with other men. Is it alone enough? No, a fat nerd fuck with millions isn’t really going to get any pussy, maybe some predator women if they flaunt it. You need to be the best version of yourself, be fit, rich, good social skills, etc. Learn how to fight asap, you’ll be amazed what knowing you can fuck up 99% of men will unconsciosuly do to your confidence and demeanor, dont let the muscles be wasted. Even if you’re ugly, become a warrior. It’s your way out.
because it doesnt. I'm 24, and though I'm certain there are older fellows in this board, I'm also certain I'm older than a good chunk of the userbase. You 16-18 year olds don't fool me. I'm not a virgin, but I haven't gotten laid in what, 4, 5 years now. In a scale of what attracts women, it goes as follows
>sociability > status > height > face >>> body >>>>> money
You'll find ugly 'losers' in the grand scheme of things holding hands with decent women in public. They're not jacked, they're not rich, they're not tall or anything. Why? Because they're the 'fun friend' of a friend of theirs or something, they met in a party/get together and just went with it. Sociability is key. And this example is so abundant that I'm sure anyone reading this sees one, if they look for it, at least once every week. I won't get into details as to why things are like this because character limit and thread will be purged soon, but they are.
What I guarantee you will not see is a jacked autist, and maybe a jacked and relatively well-off autist, that gives 'weird' vibes ever holding hands with such a girl in public. What gives? He can be taller, prettier, more jacked and more loaded, all at the same time, but he doesn't have the single most important thing, which is sociability. If you're popular, you're a pussy magnet. If you're not popular and seen as a weirdo, it's fucking over and nothing will save you. All women will say that 'youre a solid 8', and that 'any women would be lucky to have you', but they will never want to be that woman themselves for one reason or another. And say some new woman comes to work in your office and is interested - she'll ask around. She'll rapidly find out you're the weirdo that hasn't had a girlfriend in god knows how long, that they know about, and rapidly lose interest. Because sociability is key and you're missing it. And past a certain point in life, and I'd guess around college age, it's a relatively hard problem to fix.
For this reason you hear about many phenomena regarding this subject. Things such as
>well girls your age are all retarded, but once you go for women in their 30s you'll slay! THEY are responsible and know what to look for in a man!
Which is a very clever way to say
>girls on their 20s go to town with whoever they want, but eventually the wall comes and they have to settle. They've taken it from every hole in every possible way, and now they're looking for a guy with money to cruise the rest of their life since they can't rely on parent money forever
And other things. Women in their 20s 'dont care about money' because they don't have to, they can spread their legs to any guy, whenever, and they know he will want to fuck. If they have any issues with money, they can find their nearest male ATM and just go to town. So finding a loaded guy to 'settle' isnt in their goals, it doesn't even make sense. Also you'll find plenty of broke, deadbeat maggots getting plenty of pussy. I'm talking drugdealers (not druglords, just the dealer kid that makes scraps) and the sort. Why? Because if he deals drugs, surely he has connections somewhere to get them. He has huge sociability, moreso than the normal guy. And that matters more than anything else, so they go for it. I guess you get the picture now.
To answer OP, it hardly matters. No, really. A hot body may and will draw a woman, but she will look for the most important stuff before comitting to anything. As soon as she finds out you're a 'loser' in the social sense, no matter how much you earn, it's over. She'll say you two don't 'click' or some other bullshit. I've been there plenty. When I did get laid, I lied through my teeth to the woman that was interested. I said I had a gf (never did), said I cheated on her with some girls from college. I shit you not, I fucked that woman in the same week and she initiated it. Because she perceived my social value to be through the roof.
A lot of the biggest guys are able to put in the work and effort to become the biggest guys because they have a shit tonne of free time.
They have all that free time because they don’t have much social life taking time away from the gym.
They don’t have much social life because their social skills are absolute basement tier and no one wants to hang out with them.
No matter how hot you look it can’t compensate for having such trash social skills no one wants to talk to you or be your friend. So they go around saying “Muscles won’t get you pussy”.
The guys who started with half decent social skills though and could already get some pussy notice a big increase when they buff up though. But if you’re a well adjusted guy with good social skills you don’t feel the need to go online and brag about how much pussy you get so we never see that talked about much.