When will retarded redditors admit that the only thing that really matters in a fight is physical size and strength? Martial arts just let men win more quickly and efficiently against manlets who were going to lose anyway. Lifting does almost nothing to mitigate this and manlets look better as cardio bunnies anyway since they aren’t trying to look intimidating.
If you’re less than 6’ tall, lifting and martial arts will only delay the inevitable and make you look like a tryhard who thinks that brain > brawn, and this line of thinking will get you killed IRL. Manlet self defense should emphasize kissing ass and accepting your role in the pecking order.
Fpbp, don't care what height you are, how much you train or how much you weigh, swing on me and your getting shot lol.
>being this afraid of losing a fight
Nothing wrong with taking a beating, you little coward. Maybe you learn something from it.
>Nothing wrong with taking a beating
Is that what your father told you before raping you?
If I have no gun
I use my hands
If I have a knife
I use my knife
If I have a gun
I use my gun
If my enemy has a knife or gun (anything above a .45 or 9mm) or more than 2 people with him
I use my feet to evade
I use my feet
Nta, yeah this was my attitude back in highschool, but these days as a grown ass man you'd have to be fucking retarded to play that game. I don't go act like a fucking manchild at bars these days and I don't go looking for trouble anywhere so yeah if someone tries to jump on my ass I wouldn't think twice about going straight to the pistol.
Maybe if I knew the person it would be different but with random people you never know what you are going to get- could get aids from their blood, someone could get their head cracked on concrete, you might get jumped by their friends, sued, arrested, you name it. Only a fucking retard would play that game- I don't know what fucking hollywood fantasy land you are living in.
Yeah I thought like that till I saw a video of someone getting punched in the head (not even that hard to be honest) and it made him a retard, full on brain damage. Why take a chance?
>just be a good little cuck and take a beating
Yeah we know that works for you
You can't pull a gun faster that I can punch.
I totally can
>Pulling a gun steps
>Reach for gun in pants or jacket
>Pull
>Point
>Shoot
>Steps for punching
>Punch.
>Inb4 muh distance
Yeah because all confrontations happen at 20 feet apart.
You hesitate you die. Dude pulled a gun as an intimidation tactic and the other guy called him on his will to make this situation lethal.
/k/ikes absolutely seething.
Nta, it is certainly possible to disarm someone with a gun but you shouldn't live your life based on one webm that gets recycled over and over. There are tons of scenarios you can okay through but in 999/1000 the man with the gun will win and if you want to play with those odds you are fucking retarded.
Out of all the scenarios where a gun wins is when there is distance involved or the guy is already pointing.
I've yet to see a scenario where a gun wins at close distance.
It's all in what you train for.
Handtohandcels still silent about this webbum.
Who's gonna mess with him? They can't even see him when he's dressed like that.
Honestly he still not drawing fast enough to not get stuffed and KOed. 1/3 of second draw 1/6 grab to cross/elbow. And that guy is very fast at the draw.
Yes I'm that fast, fuck you. I gave your boy credit be happy with that
I thought you left the thread Mcdojo man?
Did you give up?
Not him, bitch. I learned to box in Philadelphia. Have been in more then 200 fights. Have had people pull knives and a gun on me. If I can reach you, you're probably to slow. You should've known it was a different anon from the sentience structure you pussy. Also McDojo how old are you, hole fuck!?
>Yes I'm that fast, fuck you. I gave your boy credit be happy with that
Based confident in his speed anon.
Kek oh you mean the biggest most well known one in the history of this site? Zimzam was literally getting his head smashed against the ground and pulled out a 9mm and used it kek. It happens all the time.
What level of retarded cope you you have to he huffing to think an object which sprays lead at 1000 fps with the touch of a button doesn't give someone an inherent advantage kek? Have you actually OD'd on copium?
>Can't provide video proof or even arguments so he resort to the cope card
Another gun tranny mentally broken.
The real answer here is why does he think fighters can't carry guns?
They 100% can but only a retard would think an unarmed person has an advantage over an armed one in ANY circumstance.
Where's your video of guns killing fighters at close range?
You know I don't scour the internet looking for this shit and keeping folders of webms for arguments I have with anons on an underwater flyfishing forum.
I simply take it is a physical certainty that a person with that type of killing power at the tip of their finger is WAY more dangerous than one without it kek.
I think you're coping for that you don't fight. Have you ever been in a fight?
Yeah in high school. As an adult I've never found myself in the situation because I don't act like a fucking retard in public when I do occasionally find myself in a city kek.
So you're soft. I see what's happening here. How pathetic to openly be soft and incapable of fighting and taunting with your ability to prove you had $500 once.
Two mins searching here's one
I'm sorry is David Padro Jr a fighter?
So tell me tough guy what should he have done then to keep that guy from smoking him kek?
Watch the other webm in this thread of dude bodying a gun owner with his own gun. It's already been explained to you.
Kek life isn't a fucking Hollywood movie man and I've seen that webm like a hundred times but when the chips are down and you try that shit irl you have about a 99.9% chance of becoming another dead manlet who though he was a tough guy because he wollows around at a BJJ gym.
Do you own a gun?
I do own a gun.
The delay wasn't why that dude got dropped in the webm. He was dead the second he drew regardless of the delay.
Why do you own one then are you a pussy?
It's not about being a pussy or not. I don't have delusions that guns are an alternative to knowing how to fight. You need both but gun owners seem to think fighters want to do one or the other because they're seething about being called out on this glaring hole in their self defense game.
>self defense game
As a grown man this shit isn't a game and all jokes aside if you go out in the world with these delusions it very well might get you killed. You the funny thing is a wrestled in school and feel competent im just not stupid enough to think that shit will save me from a bullet.
Also if you are a grown man still hanging around bars and getting in fights you need to get your shit together in general.
Are Americans capable of self inserting in any situation that isn't a fucking Buffalo Wild Wings? Self defense can happen anywhere at any time but for some reason the only place you people seem capable of imagining it is in a bar.
Honestly about the only time I'm out in town is getting groceries and I'm not getting into verbal altercations at the grocery store. Not everyone lives in an urban shithole kek.
What kind of guns do you have btw?
If you don't get in altercations then what's the gun for?
Two AR15's I assembled, an Aero Precision AR10, CZ P-07, Glock 43, and a Ruger LCRx in 357.
Thats a good start. So then you know first hand what these machines are capable of?
Yeah but why do you carry them if you don't get into altercations?
Guns are good for all sorts of things a city dweller wouldn't understand, varmints, snakes, sport, but also things a city dweller should know about all too well like getting mugged, car jacked, attacked by some strungout drunk belligerent manlet, junkies, you name it
really etc.
No I didn't buy a gun with the intention of going to a bar and starting an altercation and then shooting someone with it if that's what you're asking about though.
I didn't learn fighting for that either. But you are aware when you carry that it's potentially for something that's outside of your control to avoid, correct?
Of course, but I take the best odds I can give myself by staying away from that type of shit- bars, clubs, etc. You still have to buy the insurance though at the end of the day. Anyways, I keep to myself in general and have never found myself in a verbal altercation in public like some methhead.
What does any of that have to do with whether or not an armed person has an unbelievable advantaged over an unarmed person if things get physical though?
No one here is arguing FOR bar fighting. I can tell by how disingenuous you're being that you can tell your self defense measures are half ass at best too.
>If you don't get in altercations then what's the gun for?
Wtf? Do you just go around starting altercations or constantly getting into situations where one can occur? A gun is for "just in case".
The point I'm making is that you can not get into fights. That's fine. I don't get into fights either, but I know how to fight. I don't get into shootouts either but I still carry a gun. But carrying a gun isn't some magical substitute for knowing how to fight. There's always a gun-fag here acting like fighting is just nog behavior and that they're better than doing that.
I would only fight unless it was a self defense situation and in that kind of situation why wouldn't someone just use their gun?
Why would you assume that you have been made aware that you will need to use your gun in every single self defense situation? Or that it's a place that's safe to use it such as no one is behind the person you're defending yourself against? Or that you will have both hands free to clear a malfunction, should one happen? Or basically any of the things that don't happen when you're practicing your groupings at a range?
First of all I've never been to a range in my life- the range is a few hundred yards out of my backdoor.
>bystanders
I wouldn't worry about them they will be fine
>gun chokes up
You have to prepare for that
Jokes aside look man the possibilities are almost endless on what could happen in any given circumstance but that still doesn't change the fact that a gun will protect your life better than anything else. My gun is about as likely to jam up as you are to have time to lay down with your back on the floor and start doing your "bjj moves".
I'm not arguing that the gun isn't the most effective tool. I'm saying it isn't enough of one by itself.
People with guns (and really in general) will tend to hesitate. Which is perfect for you, you have to learn how to turn IT off. To turn IT off and to never hesitate or think about something like hurting someone again is the key to winning.
No he was dead because he drew a lethal weapon but wasn't willing to use it while his opponent was. It wasn't a delay, it was him thinking "wtf is this nigga really tryna hit me why isn't he pissing his pants that I have a gun?" He had no intention of shooting the guy he just thought he'd back down, hence why he didn't shoot him despite having every opportunity to do so.
But the guy with the gun didn't shoot him.
You seem to be literally gloating about a webm where the gun holder didn't use the gun as if that's some example of the triumph of ancient Chinese martial arts?
You know I can't because Liveleak is gone.
Kek oh so how the fuck else did Trayvon have point blank gsr all over him and zimzam have lacerations on the back of his head?
>Gun tranny
Extremely fucking ironic. I give you points for boldness alone even if you are retarded.
Jokes aside you have to be mentally challenged to think a person who can sling lead at you at 1000fps does not have a fundamental advantage over an unarmed person.
Cave men understood it with rocks and spears. Later they understood it with swords and knives etc. Guns make the disparity even worse you moron.
How old are you, you have to be like 15 and retarded to not know about zimmerman hahaha
Why don't you test your theory and start picking fights with people who carry guns to show those chumps how useless they are?
You're not a pussy talking out of your ass are you?
I don't usually ask if they have guns, I just sleep them and bounce if someone gets uppity.
>You're not a pussy
I'm not the one that needs a gun to feel safe.
Why does every one of these fight threads have at least one larper who pretends that he assaults random people in the street on a regular basis?
Why does someone say that they can fight in a fighting related thread Aas opposed to guntrannies that have to guntranny around in fight threads?
Big mystery.
Greentext me the last 3 physical altercations you were in. I need a good laugh.
The guntrannies I drove into an impotent seethe over the thread, including you.
Google Tueller Drill, a gun loses in close quarters, almost always.
And thats why you never pull a gun on someone unless your going to shoot
Lol all of this over some gay ass pussy beef in a bar fight
>Steps for punching
.
>>Inb4 muh distance
You can duck, dodge, or even tank a punch.
Let me see you shrug off a bullet or dodge it like Neo.
Don't need to if you are knocked out because you can't pull a gun faster that I can punch.
So you're putting money on your little baby jab not being ducked or blocked before you get shot?
I didn't know you were a fucking ninja, bro.
You should pick fights with cops and people in gun stores to show the world how ineffective firearms really are.
>Uppity guntranny doesn't understand basic concepts that movements that travel less distance are faster.
>So dilated that he needs to tu quoque to feel he did something
Why don't you shoot up a boxing gym if guns are so superior you dumbass nigga.
Kek I'll bet you couldn't disarm a Mr. Potato Head doll you fucking clown.
So you admit that you've never actually fought an armed person and you just collect cherrypicked webms from the internet as a weird cope?
Or are we still playing pretend that you sucker punch random people in the street like a nagger on a regular basis and somehow get away with it every time.
I'm also going to waste time seriously addressing your post.
The shortest distance to punch is a jab from a boxer's stance. If you aggressively approach someone with fists raised you will get shot like a retard.
Pocket pistols can be shot through jackets with just a trigger pull, much faster than an aggressive chimp like you can punch.
Finally, the gunslinger's dilemma has shown reflexive actions are faster than conscious ones, making the agressor disadvantaged in a fight. Most of the webms you post have the armed person as the agressor, but in our play pretend game you claim to be the agressor, knocking out random people in the street
Any punch is faster than pulling out a gun retard.
I just explained that you can walk around a bad neighborhood with your hand on your gun in a jacket or reach into your pocket when an angry retard approaches.
You don't need a full draw to fire, just a trigger pull. Less movement than a punch, therefore faster by your logic. You can also shoot from the hip, again a shorter motion than a punch and therefore faster according to you.
So you admit you've never been in a fight IRL and you just have a hate boner for guns online because your dad tried to take you shooting once before he walked out on you. Glad we established that.
This has been fun, but I have work tomorrow. Have a good night, little dude.
>Let me just put a different scenario because that is the only way I can stand up for myself
>Also let me project and cope.
I accept your concession.
As opposed to the hypothetical scenario that you're already on top of someone and they aren't alert enough to dodge or block a punch despite you being aggressive inside their personal space?
Also I accept your admission of never being in a fight IRL.
Yes anon, for shur a fight would start with 20 feet of distance, just enough for you to be able to pull your gun.
You never been in a fight, you never shoot someone and you never even stand up to someone with this amount of cope and retardation not even knowing how fights begin.
See
You totally can't. Even Jerry couldn't do it.
Colt made us all equals.
Not for Euros
Which is exactly why every military in the world has no age limitation or minimum requirements for fitness. A lardass or skelly with a gun is exactly as combat-capable as a healthy individual in their fighting prime
If only you could buy a weapon that will help you win a 1v1 against the legal system lmao fucking retard larpers, you pussies would never do shit in a real situation you meek bitches
I personally know four different people that have shot people with pistols. Three never had any charges brought. The one that did ended up beating the charges at trial and the local DA had a huge black eye for bringing the charges in the first place and almost lost his position because of it.
I'm sure that all the dudes shot were trying to start a fight while unarmed too, in which case the ones shooting are homosexuals. Using a gun against an unarmed assailant is the same level of cuck energy as performing a random shooting against people.
One of them shot a guy who was approaching him with a pipe. One of them shot two unarmed people. One of them fired into a car without even seeing the person. The other one I never really got the details but it was some sort of altercation.
Also look I know you're mindfucked on Hollywood movies but maybe don't go starting fights with people in public like some kind of fucking child if you aren't prepared to spin the wheel. People don't know if you're jacked up on PCP, if you have aids in your blood, etc etc. What sort of fucking retard thinks they are entitled to put other people in that risk kek?
Alot of people go flop around in a BJJ gym and OD'd on memes- this isn't a fucking Jason Bourne movie cocksucker- if you get drunk and start shit you might get your head turned into a punch bowl by some motherfucker who doesn't want to play your drunk undergrad games.
You're the one talking about beating people up and kissing their assholes you fucking larper retard lmao KYS
>making a situation violent is cringe
>shooting a guy who's just going to knock you out is based
???
Why do you think you are entitled to act like some drunk bum around people in public and NOT be shot if you get physical kek?
Sounds like the only thing separating people like you from people like that is "hurr durr, he started it"
You're goddam right. If I'm in public and I'm not fucking with you and you come stirring up trouble and try to get physical you will most likely be shot.
What about this don't you understand?
Lol, I really dont care, mutts like you would not last a minute in europe
Nta but European women are easy, like REALLY easy, I'm literally a brown amerigoblin zogbot but because I'm tall I could find sex literally wherever I went. European women will suck cock at the drop of a hat, it's not like back here.
Not sure what you're trying to say but cool blogpost I guess
Yeah I wouldn't last I'm afraid. I live free on a few square miles of woodlands and if I had to go live in your cucksheds with the only entertainment being going to some piss hole wine bar I'd most likely off myself fast.
>NOOOOOO YOU CANT JUST SHOOT ME
why the fuck would you ever want to be knocked unconscious around someone who's knocked you unconscious. They can very well stomp your head into the pavement.
>haha dude what's the big deal just let the violent dangerous retard kick the shit out of you and possibly give you permanent brain damage
???????????
Yuros would rather do insane cope olympics and defend their cucked gun rules than just admit it's fucked up they can't carry a pistol around and they do this for no other reason than the overwhelming fear they have of ever giving an American credit for anything no matter how sensible it might be kek.
>just going to knock you out
More like:
>get knocked out
>head hits pavement
>dead/comatose/paralyzed
Your options to avoid this are:
1. Hope you fall in the right manner while unconscious and get lucky.
2. Plug the feral retard trying to assault you over some petty bullshit
Choose wisely.
Why not just know how to dodge punches and counter takedown attempts?
You can do both. It's a choice between many hours of trainning and some fees and a few hours of trainning and a gun. Pick one or both.
Bigger men have easier time handling guns and can carry more of them and more ammo as well.
they also make for a bigger target and bleed faster when shot
Have sex.
bjj is pretty effective against opponents that are bigger than you
Sure, but if the bigger guy knows basic BJJ it’s over for you. You could practice for years but he’ll choke you out after a handful of lessons
But most people don't have a handful of lessons.
Unless you have trained striking you’re getting tagged before you can do anything from your little Japanese orgy shit
If they don't know bjj they don't stand a chance tho, they'll be like a fucking baby. If they have basic defense it's over, but most people don't know when they're in danger.
BJJ is not truly effective in MMA.
The UFC ruleset was designed partially by the Gracies to buff BJJ. There is no kicks to grounded opponents specifically so that you can't just counter some BJJ retard laying on the ground by kicking the shit out of him. In reality, being on the ground in a fight is a disadvantageous position.
>takedowns exist
Yeah I mean when I was 10 I could lift up my 240lb dad by hugging him around the waist and standing up straight. It's not really that crazy. Anyone who's played highschool football or rugby knows the low man wins and taking the legs wins a takedown.
Regardless, being bigger and stronger than someone is an objective advantage which is why weight classes exist.
>Regardless, being bigger and stronger than someone is an objective advantage which is why weight classes exist.
We know that. OP made a much stronger claim than that though. He said that being bigger and stronger is an insurmountable advantage, which is demonstrably untrue.
You're a retard speaking out of your ass, The Early UFCs had virtually no rules until the government got involved and regulated the sport. BJJ works but it's a last resort, everything else you said is true. Striking + top position are key
Royce Gracie was a fraud and his ufc fights were fixed just like Mike Tyson and pro boxing.
The problem is that the mountain is a foot taller than Mcgregor and the worlds strongest man at the time whereas youre some fat bloated 5'11.
let me guess, some manlet who fights called you a pussy and you came to cope
City dwellers wallowing around on piss-house floor. Kek typical.
>top comment is a lanklet coping
lel
This is THE video that should always get posted when some massive retard says fighting skills don't matter in a fight
>Skills>Size
Here you have two football players, one is 6'1 (Spencer) and 6'3 and both +200 lbs heavy and jacked. They got DESTROYED by some 5'7 150 lbs dudes who know how to fight.
People can see this shit and think fighting experience, martial arts and skills don't matter? LMAO
Yed and no. Watch those bigher guys closely. They were high on their own superiority and thinking they could stand there and just impose fear on the other guys. More than likely if the other guys never fought back they would have called them wimps, pushed them, and walked away feeling like warriors. They were sloppy and got what they were asking for. However from hanging out at some pretty disgusting rough places, I've seen countless fights and I've yet to see a manlet win if they are squared up and both are ready. One that sticks with me was some big cowboy kicking this guys kidneys in with his boots outside a bar until the bouncers came out and kicked his ass too. Brutal.
The MMA guys got a bloody nose, that means the football guy attacked first and he still lost kek
I saw a skinny 70ish kg manlet druggie triangle armbar some big 140kg redneck at a party in high-school. I'm a big guy and I train martial arts but I absolutely know that at least one or two manlets among the multitude can actually smash guys twice their size.
It's about violence, there really aren't many people that are just downright violent in the modern era. A truly violent person can easily destroy someone twice their size, unless of course that larger person is equally violent. The majority of people are pretty heavily domesticated. In fights it's pretty common to deal with a person that is pretty much being playful and polite with you. You have to teach a person to be violent. You see this in MMA, many fighters will just look like they are fucking sparring, while others, usually people that come from backgrounds of poverty immediately use acute violence.
>many fighters will just look like they are fucking sparring, while others, usually people that come from backgrounds of poverty immediately use acute violence
Aka retards who no one wants to spar with
I mean in an MMA fight. I assume you read this as "during sparring". In an MMA fight, you will see fighters that are in "sparring mode" you could say. When they should be in "violence mode". Of course sparring should be about learning, but what you diminish at an equal rate is your reflexive ability to be violent.
>I mean in an MMA fight. I assume you read this as "during sparring". In an MMA fight, you will see fighters that are in "sparring mode" you could say. When they should be in "violence mode". Of course sparring should be about learning, but what you diminish at an equal rate is your reflexive ability to be violent
IT'S NOT THE SIZE OF THE DOG IN THE FIGHT, IT'S THE SIZE OF THE FIGHT IN THE DOG
Biggest fucking cope in the universe. Small dogs get killed.
Don’t take it so literally anon ferocity is what counts in a fight is what it is saying
Speaking to this I have seen chihuahuas beat the shit out of pitbulls. There is a local chihuahua that runs around my town, he fucks up every dog. He fights dogs that literally have 100lbs on him. He wins. He has been walking around this town for YEARS, nothing can hurt him. He is invincible. A true savage.
My coach has wrestled since he was 7 years old. 3rd degree BJJ black belt, spent his whole life traveling the globe just to fight in MMA organizations. Lived in Brazil, Thailand, Australia, dude basically never fought in a "weight class" except in the anglosphere. He's like 5'6 and maybe 175.
>People can see this shit and think fighting experience, martial arts and skills don't matter? LMAO
Because they're fucking retards who are naturally tall and heavy (from being fat) and think that this is enough lol
>Skills>Size
Amateur MMAboi here, yes but also no.
There are fighters in my club who are technically much better than me, but because I am bigger and heavier I can usually beat them, particularly if it becomes a grappling fight.
Even with striking I can usually eat whatever flurries of punches or kicks they throw if I have to, and then overpower them.
This is why weight divisions exist.
That said, someone with any training at all will almost always beat someone with no training.
You can tell right away who the grittier guys are in that fight before it starts. Those poncy calvin klein care salesman homosexuals never had a chance.
tbf the smaller guys are probably even or surpass them in weight
those jocks were listed on some ncaa football thing at +210lb. the manlets in question, the taller one is chase hooper who fights in the ufc in the 145lb class. he is at most maybe 170lb here. his friend is even smaller. im not some size apologist but you are coping
Guy's lucky bumped into his friend first before being slammed into the ground. Could've been game over right there.
The Manlet has a strong wrestler phenotype would not want to fuck with a guy that has that face
Manlet literally has a bigger skull (more robust too) than the lanklet
Didn't Homo S. Women find Neanderthal men more attractive because they were more powerful and stronger?
Literally the opposite
https://www.science.org/content/article/how-neanderthals-lost-their-y-chromosome
Male neanderthal chromosomes didn't mix with female homosapiens and went extinct.
https://www.iflscience.com/why-neanderthal-males-couldnt-always-breed-human-females-successfully-34958
Neanderthals were literally cucked to extinction
I'm pretty sure both men and women got action.
Based on your time spent in late Pleistocene Eurasia?
Sure but the male neanderthal chromosomes didn't survive because it couldn't mix with female chromosomes while the female chromosomes can be found in modern humans Wich means human males fucked neanderthal females until the neanderthal male cuck died off even if they did mate with female humans too.
If the best supporting evidence is a grainy old cam recorder from a third world country then I'd say that more of an exception proving the rule.
Two six foot+ roided up football Chad's vs two tiny manlets
Who wins?
Most people aren't trained to fight THO.
>less than 6' tall
most people are going to be either a handful of inches taller or shorter so this isn't really a factor unless you're absolutely dwarfed by the other guy, especially if you're skilled. Vast majority of the people Mike Tyson fought were taller than him.
Learn Judo, basic elbow and palm strikes, and buy a Sig Sauer.
judo is a meme, just like karate and taekwondo
No it's not.
judo has nothing in common with karate or taekwondo
its focus on stand-up throws and trips, its not a meme to dunk someone with the force of their own weight onto the pavement with the back of their head
You're a retard.
Nope
Jesus fucking Christ why do I even enter combat sport threads anymore?
Karate and Taekwondo aren't memes so long as you're at a real gym and know where to apply their skillsets. GSP and Henry Cejudo credit a lot of their style to their karate base.
Most people are more likely to be mugged by 1 or 2 people with knives or guns than get in a real fight.
>Autistic Mofos here thinking they gotta fight the Mountain
Stupid homosexuals. There's an infinite bigger chance a 5'10 150 lbs drunktard will try to beat the living shit out of you rather than a 7 ft 400 lbs Powerlifter world champion.
Where I'm from 6'5 300lb dudes are common, you will see 2 or 3 of them for every 10 5'10 people you see.
What country? Only place i think of that has people that "big" is Mongolia
Average height in Mongolia says 5'6"
In America everyone is 300lbs
Rural Kentucky. We got giants everywhere here. Giant blacks and giant whites are very common here. You can guess why. We have lots of short people too sure, but go to a gas station and you will literally see multiple 6'5 big boys every single time no matter what.
Border state queerbaits.
bingo
The fuck is that supposed to mean?
Border states get no respect around here.
Not him, but being 6'5" and 300 lbs isn't really anything special in Germany. My neighbor is 6'4 and around 350 lbs. He's fat but not uncommonly tall or heavy.
Mongolians are tiny, but places like Polynesia and Iceland have a disproportionate amount of massive dudes.
That's average here. Everyone in my family is over 6'8
Yep 7’ is average here
My little brother is a powerlifter and his lifts are at least 150% of mine on literally any lift and I can knock his ass out and tap him out any way I want whenever I want, he fucking sucks at fighting. We grew up differently. I grew up poor and getting into fights in the street. He grew up with money and a gym membership. I'm a fucking animal and he isn't. It's just that simple. He legitimately cannot believe how easy it is for me to whoop his ass. He is strong as fuck too his lifts are really impressive but literally I move him around like it's nothing.
>making yourself look more brawny makes you look like you think brain > brawn
can you retards try to at least think this shit out before posting
If mcgregor did nothing but powerlifting and judo/wrestling all his life he would be able to submit the mountain and choke him out
A fight is 90% mental, 10% physical.
I've seen this video, wasn't McGregor basically toying with him the whole time?
I just reach fo my nines niggah
If you mean in a sporting "fight" like boxing or MMA, then yeah. Usually the taller, heavier opponent has a distinct advantage. If you mean in the street, where anything goes, then the one who strikes first and utilizes speed, aggression and surprise will normally win, regardless of how big the other opponent is.
Depends honestly, most people in the street either sucker punch you or try to put you to the ground by wrestling or locking. Fighters like Boxers would likely use the space advantage because it isn't inside the ring, they will try to use outboxing if there's too many people fighting at once, best to take down one by one by luring them to make a line.
How come Mike Tyson who's 5'11 in his prime manage to beat 46 guys were above over 6 feet tall? This thread bait
Manlets think they are Mike Tyson kek
I am Mike Tyson
hey Mike, hope you recover from your crippled state
Love, Anon
Mike tyson, khabib, gsp, all manlets
Khabib and Gsp were fighting in like lightweight etc. right? I mean the people they were fighting were basically the same weight.
GSP went up to middleweight once. A real hero is Sakuraba though, natural welterweight fighting up at openweight.
Mike Tyson was a 220lb slab of fucking quick twitch muscle fibers.
Although he also got humiliated by lanklet Holyfield.
come on now, I genuinely can't tell if you're being retarded, 5'11/180cm isn't manlet, it's the most average height you can be and the standard, everything below is manlet and everything above is tall
>inb4 I'm from Bosnia/the Netherlands/Nilotic people whatever
I don't care
Roid rage
Estimated orm’s;
Bench: 82kg
OHP: 49kg
Bent over row: 95kg
Deadlift: 112kg
Zercher: 95kg
I’m 5’7 ~180lbs. I’ve started boxing recently but haven’t done proper sparing, just touch sparing. Would I get beat up in a fight?
Your class is in the Heavyweight Division. The chances are small, I recommend you working on one move and perfect it. (Quality over quantity) Also, try different boxing styles and see which you prefer
Okay thanks for the advice. I’m currently losing weight as well so hopefully I’ll be in a lower class to make things easier
I went to a private school so I don't know what fighting is.
Feel bad for you OP, better luck next life.
I wonder how many years that bouncer got
None whatsoever lmao
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/6574870/sebastian-trabucatti-guilty-killing-harrow-schoolboy-malia-one-punch/
>But after deliberation, judges in Crete decided to hand Trabucatti a suspended four-year prison sentence for involuntary manslaughter.
Worth it
Ive heard multiple stories of fit people accidentally ruining random assholes with one critical hit. How weak is the average person and how much should you hold back if you do end up throwing a punch? I’m not that strong yet but I’m scared that once I do get there I’ll underestimate my own strength and fatality someone
Firstly that's not how it works. You can't train your skull and brain so "weak" has nothing to do with it, and secondly the damage is caused by your punch knocking them out while they're standing and then they collapse and the completely uncontrolled, undefended fall onto concrete slams their head onto the hard service and paints the inside of their skull with brain jelly.
Secondly any civilised country has some variation of the eggshell skull rule. You are sentenced for your crimes on the basis of the actual harm you do; if you punch a man and it turns out he has a skull as fragile as an eggshell and you kill him, when an ordinary man would have survived, that doesn't lessen the character of your crime. You must take your victims as you find them. Of course it may be demonstrative that you didn't /intend/ to kill him, where that's relevant, but you can't be sentenced on the basis that you didn't kill him or that he in some way contributed to his own death by having a fragile skull that couldn't take a punch.
Thirdly most civilised countries have a "king hit" law (also called a "coward punch" law by suburban mums who don't like the badass name) that says any unexpected strike to the head or neck resulting in death is either treated as intent to kill or otherwise dealt with more seriously (e.g. by the imposition of a mandatory minimum sentence - in my state 10 years of actual imprisonment, no exceptions, no parole, no suspended sentences. Straight to jail).
What is the takeaway?
1. don't punch people
2. don't punch people
3. don't punch people
4. don't punch people
5. don't punch people in the head
I would honestly just punch the man's chin with a jab, it won't necessarily knock them out black but it will stagger them, causing them to have chicken legs. It will still be considered as assault though
You can train your skull because chewing exerts massive pressures on your skull, enough to literally change it's shape. I agree though you shouldnt punch just pull a wrestling move on them.
The human skull is not very resilient if you’re not actively defending yourself. Sucker punches can totally kill you especially if you fall on pavement
You fat fuck; you underachiever. I hope for your sake you're younger than 16, because if not you're a failure. If you want to have any thoughts about martial arts and combat sports you would research them or even try them for yourself. Instead here you are making stupid low effort threads about outdated bullshit. have a nice day
Started training BJJ and MMA. My strength has been a huge asset, it helps me hold my own against longer trained people of smaller/similar size. But I still lose at times because of their better technique. Strength does not always beat technique, likewise technique does not always beat strength
Timing, distance, predictably, any many more aspects to win a fight. There are never lucky punches or hits
Pretty much yeah, my strength has let me score takedowns pretty easily as well as outright brute strength my way out of submissions/holds. I don’t want to rely on it too much though and foster bad habits.
Why do insecure incels make these retarded ass fucking threads
Do you not get enough attention at home or school? Do you get off on being told to have a nice day by strangers? You should just do as you're told and rope
A dude at my gym weighs like 205 of mostly muscle and is a general dickhead who tries to "win" at sparring. Goes way too hard, uses his size to bully others, etc.
Another guy at gym is like 160 and in decent shape, but obviously theres a large size and strength difference between the two. Tldr small dude got sick of big dudes shit and kicked him in the head, put his lights out.
OP, just because you suck at fighting it doesnt mean you need to cope and come tell SwoleShack how much of a pussy you are. Even I was able to manage against the big dude just by being smarter and controlling range, and I am not even very good. Now, if big dude ever actually learns how to fight, its a different story, but as long as we have autists like you who think "grug big and strong, grug good fight", then skinny twinklets are going to keep choking you out or kicking you on the side of your caveman head.
>When will retarded redditors admit that the only thing that really matters in a fight is physical size and strength?
That's what guns are for.
>When will retarded redditors admit that the only thing that really matters in a fight is physical size and strength?
OH NO NO NO NO NO HAHAHAHAHAAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA
Like this?
https://wshhp.page.link/ZrUHaxh32AwZwA3q9
Who would win in a fight in an octagon? A Euro with secret ancient medieval martial arts, or an American with a Glock?
The Euro. A gun can't be drawn that quickly.
If they're in the octagon the gun isn't holstered. You don't put your gloves on after the bell rings.
How quickly?
I could easily get a gun out and fire an entire clip before someone could catch me in an octagon and do anything to me.
No, you can't. Again, Tueller drill.
HEMA Euro would fuck up any American with a M60E.
Cope harder homosexual
https://www.scrapdigest.com/raw-video-mma-fighter-kills-bodybuilding-champion-street-fight/22912/
>bodybuilding champion
So a manlet? Bodybuilders are 5'8" average.
Watch the video he’s significantly taller and bigger than the guy who killed him. Cope harder homosexual
>gun tranny
>Shit happens
>Have to fight for my honor
>Option 1
>Pretend to be submissive bitch to avoid danger
>Shoot some nigga after he walks away
>Get raped in prision
>Option 2
>Be too slow to pull my gun before I get knock the fuck out because close quarters give the faster guy the advantage and a punch path is shorter than everything needed to get my gun ready
>Decide to shitpost on fit about how superior guns are.
>regular functioning person with an IQ over 85
>Shit happens
>Have to fight for my honor
>wait a second
>why the fuck am I risking my life because my feelings got hurt
>I could end up as a vegetable or dead, I have everything to lose and nothing to gain
>apologize to the other guy and escape the situation
>enjoy my life as a functioning member of society and not a nagger tier violent retard stuck in the 19th century
FTFY retard
>manlets coping by saying they could kill Hafthor Bjornsson with their bear hands even if he was armed with an Uzi because they took some kickboxing classes at the Y
>Fatass thinks yes Thor because he's the same weight as him despite being a foot and a half shorter.
Tell us why you don't appendix carry, anon. I bet I can guess.
>lankets, powerfatties and gunfags bullied again by combatchads.
being shorter is actually an advantage when it comes to fighting as most people are more prepared to fight someone close to their height than they are someone the have to punch down at
left handedness can also be pretty useful since it makes it harder for the other person to make blows
size and strength are really only 2 parts to a larger picture
This.
>easier takedowns
>easier headbutts
>easier clinch boxing
Lanklets can seethe.
No short fighter I've ever met was eager to fight a bigger person than them.
Cope. I will outwit fat bulktards with my intellectual superiority before any fight would even begin. You brutes are like puddy between the metaphorical fingers of my brain. Like wooing babies with candy before they are about to cry.
>thread goes from manlets can beat lanklets to manlets can dodge bullets
Obviously anybody is going to have trouble fighting against a dude 3x their size. But most size differences aren't that extreme and are negligible if we're assuming the shorter dude is trained while the other guy isn't.
This.
If you understand takedowns you immediately supercede any normal size advantage. Doesn't matter how big a guy is if you're on top of him and he's got no guard.
And most skill differences aren't as extreme as in your video. 99% of fights are going to be untrained random vs untrained random. Who do you think has better chances? The bigger and stronger person or the smaller and weaker?
>And most skill differences aren't as extreme as in your video. 99% of fights are going to be untrained random vs untrained random. Who do you think has better chances? The bigger and stronger person or the smaller and weaker?
In those instances, probably the bigger guy most of the time. Wasn't the point OP was trying to make, though. And that was who I was responding to in the first place.
Lol yes but keep in mind that most anons are functionally illiterate and their comprehension is even worse.
But this doesn't apply to you, correct?
Yeah that's right
Confidently retarded & deepfried in oblivious irony
What's the basis for your assertion that I'm retarded?
You are posting on SwoleShack.
You got me on that one.
Probably the calling out of someone else as lacking comprehension whilst lacking comprehension
The benefits to learning martial arts for self defense are so marginal that I'd rather spend my time doing basically any other useful activity.
im large and also i do martial arts.
bascially, in bjj, among people who are not retarded, its understood that every belt can make up for about twenty pounds difference.
so like a blue belt can handle a white belt who is twenty pounds heavier then them, a black belt can concievably handle a white belt who is one hundred pounds heavier then them.
thats about the limit to how much you can over come a size advantage, technique can only enhance underlying size, streangth, and speed.
The craziest shit I see is my 5'7 coach tap this 6'10 Brazilian black belt. It's like magic.
Height is a liability in grappling after a certain limit. You literally just can't bend your limbs through openings that create opportunities.
yea but you can just lie down on people.
Most BJJ is taking advantage of getting submissions from your back. That's pretty much just playing into opponent's hands.
Pure BJJ that is, obviously in a fight/MMA situation yeah being on top means raining elbows onto your opponent's face.
i literally take bjj and you are at a disadvantage if you are on your back and on the bottom even if you are more comfortable there, i take advantage of my size from time to time and just lie down on poeple and they fucking find it difficult. and when a fatty lies down on me, i find it fucking difficult, its fucking gravity.
ITT OP can’t fight and looks for other nerds to justify it
If you’re over the age of 22 and are in a situation where you’re physically fighting another man in a social situation (not in self defense from a robbery or something) you’re just poor fucking trash.
Be a man of peace. You can have the tools for destruction. But be a man of peace.
>be a man of peace
Esoteric men are the reason we are in this nightmarish timeline.
You should be neither a man of peace nor a man of destruction. You should be a man of the present, able to commit yourself to the most heinous of things without any remorse or second thought. To be impulsive and set on only destruction is to have no control, to be a man of peace is to be overcontrolled by the self. A balance in everything is the key to perfection, be a neutral man. A violent, neutral man. Able to do anything and adapt to any circumstance without emotions.
>he thinks tryhard is an insult
Unironically ngmi. The betas will train up and dance around with your psychopath guts in the aftermath.
I prefer Bas Rutten's Self Defense tactics.
He teaches you to hit first which is the actual correct thing to do.
KEECK HEEM IN DE LEEVAR
I hate BJers so much
>manlet featherweight wrestling champion going all out
>powerlifter with barely any wrestling experience using 20% of his force trying not to kill him with one slap
This video destroys the aspiring MMAnlet.
>When will retarded redditors admit that the only thing that really matters in a fight is physical size and st-BAM
>"heh, I may only be a 120lbs manlet, but what are you going to do in the hypothetical situation where I have a gun?"
>"what's the issue manlet? I'm a based satanic lanklet pedo and I can just rape and abuse you if I want and...n-no what are you doing, y-you can't just pull a gun on me, y-you just can't-BLAM BLAM ACK
>I could hypothetically beat you up!
>What if I hypothetically had a gun?
>You can't just make up hypothetical scenarios!
>mag thread
>What if gun tho
>The average person hits faster than it takes to pull a gun
>N-no u.
Every thread.
Why can't people enjoy martial arts as a sport/exercise activity without devolving into "my dad could beat up your dad" retardation?
Guntrannies.
you are at least half the autism in this thread m8
>tfw bullied fatties, lankets and gunfags into submission again.
>flail like a retard
>claim victory
is that how your "streetfights" go lol
>I win if I have my gun in hand, loaded and 20 feet of distance.
Nice fantasy.
So you're just circling back to strawmen now that you're out of ideas?
>If I repeat what has been told to me I'm winning.
>My toy gun makes me unbeatable
Yes because I yet to provide an argument that makes sense and show video evidence to back up my claims, oh wait that's you.
Unlike you, I'm not autistic enough to have webms preconverted to play internet tough guy, so just scroll through this youtube channel and show me the bodycam footage where the cop with the gun gets beat up by the guy with a melee weapon or only fists.
https://m.youtube.com/c/PoliceActivity
On that note, are you convinced your magic fists can also defeat a knife, bat, or any other weapon. Punching is faster than stabbing after all.
6" here, grew up in a family of boxers and martial-artists, father owns his own gym and has ran it successfully for 30 years.
I did all of that stuff, I was healthy and I still got my ass kicked.
When I went through a phase where I was perpetually angry, poor and coming off the drugs (nothing strength enhancing just a bad mood) I kicked so many more asses using loud grug roars and flailing my body and fists randomly at people than I ever did trying to be Bruce Lee.
It's pure aggression and hostility that wins a fight.
Martial Arts is for pathetic weeaboos who are scared of the world and need an outside reinforcement to make them feel better about the world they so desperately fear
- Somebody who did Martial Arts for almost 20 years and won 3 competitive fights (2012 Melbourne Australia) before deciding it was a load of shit
>6"
Techniques beat instincts, git gud fagg
Another thread where guntrannies can't prove guns can beat fist at close quarters, need to pretend altercations will happen at random and with enough distance to not be bitch slapped before they can pull their water gun.
You already admitted to never being in a fight IRL. What makes you an authority on how fights happen? You obviously have no experience in the matter.
Shur anon whatever let's you cope, not a single argument provided from guntrannies just
>I hav gun.
Your argument is literally
>I hit u first
>u die instantly and can't retaliate in any way because I say so
Gee why would someone that trained to fight thinks they would be able to overpower someone that doesn't know how to fight.
>my mcdojo belt makes me bulletproof
If anything this thread has convinced me you know nothing about either fighting or guns.
Yes. Every trained fighter know about the "first punch rule". The first person to get poor contact on an awkward jab is the winner and the loser immediately turns to dust and cannot harm the winner in any fashion.
People that know how to punch tend to be able to finish fights against untrained bums with one punch yes.
If you knew how to punch you would know this.
Because you know from experience, dontcha, toughguy?
That McDojo made you a karate master and every other pleb on the street is a helpless scrub. Nobody has every boxed recreationally but you. Especially nobody who owns a gun.
Your telegraphed jab is unstoppable.
Does Sensei Steve know that you sucker punch random strangers in the street?
That's not the way of the warrior.
This move at the end is amazing.
Slamming someone on their head is the best way to win a fight.
>street fight
>parking garage
Why do dudes deliberately get in fights on pavement or in bathrooms where literally everything will break your skull?
People who get in street fights are not intelligent people.
Intelligent people realize some dude taking your parking space or calling you a fag is not worth 10 years for voluntary manslaughter or getting jumped later by the guy you beat plus 8 friends.
And that's assuming you win.
Imo, even if you fight on grass, nobody knows the result of a single punch.
You can be the type to have 100 concussions and be fine, or you can be the type of dude who gets a decently hard hit and ends up with lifelong pain or death.
When I was doing boxing, like 90% of people disappeared within the first 6 months and never came back. Most people leave after getting hit hard in the head once and they realize it's not worth it. Some people take a couple shots to the head and they start feeling like absolute shit. With every concussion you get, the next one comes easier. Then before you know it, a light tap to the head is giving you nausea.
Or maybe you're just the dude that gets hit once and has headaches for the rest of his life.
Head gear retard, headgear
Those just tend to be the places where social conflict happens. It's places where different social groups interact, like a bar bathroom, underground parking garage, etc. Perfect setting for retard chimps to want to unga bunga chestbeat against other males in the vicinity.
As Kermit the Alt Right Frog says, all male interaction is underlied by the capacity to exert violence upon one another.
Because that is where they happen to be when they get in a fight?.
Do you think people are going to look for grass to fight on before they fight?.
In that video there is evidence of it being self-defense, so I doubt that person would go to jail even if the person he slammed died.
Frank Shamrock vs Igor Zinoviev is my favorite UFC fight.
manlets should just accept their place in new society as subservient femboys
>Do combat sports
>Have fun
>Povertyfags, weaponfags, edgelords, and schizos argue about nonsense
Maybe just avoid fighting like barbarians?
i do martial arts like crazy and i also have zero problem avoiding fights so all dis shit about "da streets" only holds so much water.
>5'7" 160lbs MMA bum
>6'4" 270lbs champion powerlifter
Obesebros...
"But muh gunz"
Not every fight starts with you becoming fully aware that someone's about to attack you in a way that justifies the use of lethal force. Even fewer fights start with enough distance between you and the agitator for you to draw and aim your weapon. Someone just punching you rarely justifies shooting them unless they outweigh you by 100+ pounds.
Thinking a gun is the solution to any confrontation will wind up with your ass locked up or knocked out before you could even touch your weapon.
If you don't live in a third world nation, you're justified in shooting someone if they swing on you and therefor don't need to hesitate.
Mike Tyson who was 5'10 was fucking up people 4, 5 6+ inches taller then him. They where all intimidated by him despite the fact that he was shorter and smaller.
Mike Tyson was 220lbs of muscle.
nagger