What's your supplement stack?
Dear anons. What's your stack for gains and do you have other supp stacks? I've heard people are starting to use stacks to increase productivity.
What's your supplement stack? Dear anons. What's your stack for gains and do you have other supp stacks?
Iron, magnesium, b12, omega 3 long chain, ashwaganda, d3, probably getting zinc and calcium soon
How's that working for you? I've heard good things about Ashwagandha
Cringe
I wasted a lot of money on supplements and a lot of this should be taken with HUGE grains of salt.
I'm 5'5, 28, I was 154lb with 30% body fat (just out of a long keto diet) at 230 ng/dl T.
I tried out these on the last 9 months:
- lycopene (worthless, get tomato/sauce)
- magnesium (eat meat + get a multivitamin)
- multivitamin (good, my body doesn't like holding iron)
- omega3 (get fish, capsules are shit and add to calories / fat to your diet)
- d3 (take once a week, I had 3x the amount I should of vitamin D built up because of this, multivitamins daily should cover it)
- zinc (worthless, get with diet)
- taurine (worthless)
- l-carnitine (worthless)
- shilajit (worthless)
- nmn (worthless)
- beta-alanine (worthless, even taking daily for the build up)
- creatine (good)
- crituline (marginal pump gain / close to nothing)
- arginine (marginal pump gain / close to nothing)
- caffeine (good, dose it properly, cycle it off)
- thermogenics (worthless, get caffeine)
- dextrose (as an insulin spiker for recovery, marginal gains add up to 190kcal to your diet worth of sugars, use with caution)
- whey (just eat food)
- collagen (worthless)
- hmb (worthless)
- ashwaganda (?)
- tongkat ali (?)
- fadogia agrestis (?)
After 2 months of lifting 6x week and fixing my diet to hit my macros through eating mostly rice, broccoli, lean beef and eggs. I got measured again and my T was at 450 ng/dl. Measurements were taken after lifting.
I do not attribute the jump in T to ashwaganda, tongkat ali and fadogia agrestis, I actually attribute it to going off the keto diet and starting to work out. I will take off these supplements in the next few months and get another blood test done.
I got down to 22% BF, can see the outlines of my abs. Squat 1.5x my bw, inclined press 0.75x (weakest lift) and bentover curl 1.1x for 8 reps each. I was so severely weak I was getting sore from walking. I used to be obese (peak at 205lb) and I mostly maingained (currently at 149lb ~ 147lb).
>worthless, get with diet
I dont know anon, sometimes Im unable to hit the zinc limit with meat.
>collagen
dont you need this stuff for ligaments? What if I didnt eat meat in the past 36 hours?
>I had 3x the amount I should of vitamin D
is it even bad?
>I dont know anon, sometimes Im unable to hit the zinc limit with meat.
multivitamins usually also have zinc
>dont you need this stuff for ligaments? What if I didnt eat meat in the past 36 hours?
>What if I didnt eat meat in the past 36 hours?
anon...
>is it even bad?
According to my doctor, the bad part of this is vitamin D build up in your fats, you lose fat, you have to reprocess them and may or may not cause a toll in your kidneys, specially at higher does, I was taking 12k I.U/day. Stopped taking it, got tested again, everything was normal with just the multivitamins. I still have some leftovers and I take one pill once a week.
>anon...
I eat like, once a day
>12k I.U/day
dear lord
>I eat like, once a day
Get out of these retarded diets man. I did all of them and they ruined my life, they trashed my T.
Hit the gym, eat 4 to 6 meals, hit your protein macros, if you are fat go for 0.4x your bodyweight in lb in fat grams and fill yourself with carbs. Lift like you want it and try to do at least 120m of LISS cardio a week.
There's no point in trying to get lean if you have no muscle, just main gain. I dropped to 140lb after 6 months of lifting and I was so fucking small. I bulked back up and I'm maintaining now.
If you really wanna lose fat, just do everything I said in a small deficit of 500kcal. It's actually maintainable and you will look a lot better.
>they trashed my T
keyword "my"
>keyword "my"
Everyone going off about fasting and ketones and whatnot are not running around like headless chickens with the low T problem they created for themselves.
Anyway, for all I care you can stick it up your arse and do a flip.
Do 8 to 12w cuts, maintain for a period, cut again, etc. But again, there's no point in cutting if you have no muscle, you will look like a lanky teenager.
t.
>230 ng/dl
>450 ng/dl
and I bet you are testing?
>there's no point in cutting if you have no muscle
if you think you do, go for it
there's just no reason to read all the (literal) low T bullshit you just typed
>lanky teenager
I BP 115kg
>in a small deficit of 500kcal
never in my life was I able to pull it off
12 eggs, zinc, C, B3, rhodiola, noopept, yohimbine
https://pastebin.com/Hm9006g7
novos core
spirulina
sea moss
niacin
boron
very comprehensive
Do you cycle boron? Ive heard it raises estrogen after a month or so
i do not. i also dont feel the test boost, so perhaps the e boost is also similarly mild
Interesting, how much do you take?
6 mg
I get no gains but i take
>multivitabin
>d vitamen
>fish oil capsules because I never eat fish
>magnesium/zinc, whichever I didn't take in the morning I take before bed
>whey
>creatine
>multivit
anything more is an enormous waste of money.
4 scoops protein to get an easy 100g a day, plus the milk i mix it with. Then all my eggs and meat get me to 200.
Creatine
Multi vit as a catch all that i didn't get from food
Anything else is a waste and a meme the trannys here cope with
WATER BEEF AND SLEEP
(You) me
>white woman daily meds tray
1/2 do belong to a white girl
125mg test u pw, 20mg Cialis 2-3x pw, 5mg var pd, 50g collagen pd
multi
vit D
fish oil
eggs,steak,milk,rice
ceatine 5g a day
beta alanine 3g on lift days
hmb and bcca
maltodextrin to sneak in extra carbs
whey protein unflavored