The original formulation gave incredible focus and energy thanks to DMAA, pumps were just okay.
The two best pre workouts I ever used were Muscle Marinade (purus labs I think?) and Mesomorph.
This was before the 2012 DMAA ban. Nothing has compared since then.
Dark Labs Crack with DMAA is mediocre in my opinion but has much better focus and energy compared to other modern stims. Back in the day no one would use it though. It's shit compared to the old stuff.
i wish i knew. every preworkout i have tried in the last 6 years has been fucking trash so loaded with bullshit i don't need that all i end up feeling is itchy, hot and tired at the same time. Literally a caffiene pill and some fucking water works better for me than 99% of the shit on the market. A fucking monster/rockstar sippy works better than this crap.
and no derek from mpmd's shit ass gorrila mode bullshit isn't any good either.
beta alanine is what makes you itchy.
and yeah, preworkout is a fuckin joke and its all centered around being the most extreme most potent shit when really just 100mg of caffeine will do the trick. everyone these days just fucking downs energy drinks so much that they need at minimum 300mg just to even feel anything.
>Sodium and potassium
shit, gonna need a lot more if this stuff is supposed to also enhance your pump >Creatine
As long as your supplementing 5g daily, I suppose the extra bit this offers isnt gonna hurt. Its not really necessary in a preworkout though. >Beta Alanine, 1.6 grams
Shit, 3g is what you wanna shoot for, you shouldn't have to supplement it if youre buying preworkout >Caffeine
If you dont have too high a caffieine tolerance already, it might be fine for a little bit at first, but for most gym goers who take pre 190mg isnt a lot at all. >All the other shit
Not really necessary but I guess if it helps for focus then sure, not sure what a decent dosage is for most of this
I prefer a nonstim like Insane Veinz. I get off work late and last thing I need is a bunch of caffine and sugars running through my system before I crash.
The best pwo I've ever had was banned in the US and I can't figure out why. It was called Dark Rage, it had like 180 calories and it had a fishy taste but it kept me going for really great 2 hour workouts. They have this other stuff called dark matter but it's not the same.
cialis
why are dyels obsessed with pwo's?
just have coffee or a monster
Why are the DYELs obsessed with coffee and energy drinks?
Just have nothing and get your weak ass in the gym
mdma derivatives are nothing like coffee or monster you fucking retard
I tried this shit back in the day
Absolute trash. Felt like I did not have any pre work out after all
Same thing with the next brand I tried.
Never again. Trash products for losers with no tolerance
The original formulation gave incredible focus and energy thanks to DMAA, pumps were just okay.
The two best pre workouts I ever used were Muscle Marinade (purus labs I think?) and Mesomorph.
This was before the 2012 DMAA ban. Nothing has compared since then.
Dark Labs Crack with DMAA is mediocre in my opinion but has much better focus and energy compared to other modern stims. Back in the day no one would use it though. It's shit compared to the old stuff.
i wish i knew. every preworkout i have tried in the last 6 years has been fucking trash so loaded with bullshit i don't need that all i end up feeling is itchy, hot and tired at the same time. Literally a caffiene pill and some fucking water works better for me than 99% of the shit on the market. A fucking monster/rockstar sippy works better than this crap.
and no derek from mpmd's shit ass gorrila mode bullshit isn't any good either.
I like the itching from the beta alanine personally
beta alanine is what makes you itchy.
and yeah, preworkout is a fuckin joke and its all centered around being the most extreme most potent shit when really just 100mg of caffeine will do the trick. everyone these days just fucking downs energy drinks so much that they need at minimum 300mg just to even feel anything.
coffee
the new jack3d is basically the same formula btw. "geranium extract" is actually just dmaa, its a loophole term.
I like those Celsius energy drinks
R8 this pre based only on its ingredients
crap
>Sodium and potassium
shit, gonna need a lot more if this stuff is supposed to also enhance your pump
>Creatine
As long as your supplementing 5g daily, I suppose the extra bit this offers isnt gonna hurt. Its not really necessary in a preworkout though.
>Beta Alanine, 1.6 grams
Shit, 3g is what you wanna shoot for, you shouldn't have to supplement it if youre buying preworkout
>Caffeine
If you dont have too high a caffieine tolerance already, it might be fine for a little bit at first, but for most gym goers who take pre 190mg isnt a lot at all.
>All the other shit
Not really necessary but I guess if it helps for focus then sure, not sure what a decent dosage is for most of this
I'd say its like a 3/10
I prefer a nonstim like Insane Veinz. I get off work late and last thing I need is a bunch of caffine and sugars running through my system before I crash.
REACH SUPPS
>paying $6gorillion for 30 serves of some crap
just put creatine and l-arginine in an energy drink
>itt: dorks that have never ingested DMAA
Lucky you, nothing will ever come close to those drug fueled workouts
The best pwo I've ever had was banned in the US and I can't figure out why. It was called Dark Rage, it had like 180 calories and it had a fishy taste but it kept me going for really great 2 hour workouts. They have this other stuff called dark matter but it's not the same.
Alani Nu PWO is widely available with very minimal meme ingredients
wouldn't use stuff like this, not because muuuhhhh health but because once you stop taking it the next month will absolutly suck.
AMPHETAMINE/SPEED,
NOTHING ELSE LIKE IT,
DONT NEED TO EAT OR SLEEP YET HAVE UNMATCHED ENERGY AND DRIVE