What's creatine like anons? Never supplemented with it, but as far as I know it's pretty much the only supplement that has a multitude of scientific literature to back up its use
What's creatine like anons?
What's creatine like anons? Never supplemented with it, but as far as I know it's pretty much the only supplement that has a multitude of scientific literature to back up its use
it's good for baldmaxxing
>People still believe this shit from a single stuff that was never reproduced
>consumes an inhuman amount of creatine
>surprised doing unnatural thing is bad for you
wow
>idk how it works so it must be bad for you the post
jfc reatard
Bro I had people in 2016 saying it would make my dick shrink. Fucking weirdos.
Get fucked loser, I was bald before I even started using it.
it retroactively made you bald
Is this true?
I really like my luscious hair
probably not, it's the association with fake natties saying they're just using supplements like creatine but they're balding from roids
It's not, just cycle on and off as needed. If you're already doing the bare minimum for hair care then you should be fine, anon.
Don't cycle creatine. It's not a fucking hormone injection, it's just a biomolecule that acts as an additional fuel source for your muscles. All you want to do is keep your muscles fully saturated with the stuff, and that's it.
homosexual with shitty genes spotted, blame your father for ejaculating in your mother
buy the cheapest shit you can find and make sure it has a scoop. A kitchen scale isn't accurate to even 5 grams so don't bother weighing it. It really makes a difference to me, I have more sustained endurance during lifting sessions
Op's creatine doesn't come with a scoop. Naked Creatine comes with a scoop though. I am currently working my way through the same bottle. I alternate with ON and Naked depending on what's cheaper on amazon. 2 tsp is 6g of creatine btw.
What kind of shitty scale do you have man? I got mine at Walmart like 10yrs ago for $15 and have never calibrated, and it measures a dollar bill at exactly a gram
I tried creatine once. As soon as it kicked in I was able to sprint to the gym instead of drive. Got there in about 5 minutes flat (Gym is 4 miles away). The creatine was really in my system now. Immediately did 1/2/3/4 and was able to talk to gym qt without autism. Ripped the water fountain out of the wall and let the cooling hydration spray directly into my face from the pipe. Jogged back home and had some tendies. Best day of my fucking life.
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epic reimagining of the Divine Comedy by Dante Alighieri
Unstoppable pump
My bench went up 100lbs overnight
But the comedown isn't worth it imo
I did feel like it made a difference in terms of strength and endurance. Felt much bigger while I was taking the same capsules as OP’s pic. Stopped though after a week long bout of serious diarrhea. Don’t know if the creatine itself caused it, but seems like others commonly report digestive issues with creatine. I’d make sure you’re taking it with food and start small.
It's great for accelerating hair loss. Other things related to body building too, but mostly it just kills your hair follicles.
> HURR SINGLE STUDY NEVER BEEN REPRODUCED
Yeah because it's not in creatine producers' interests.
But guess what? HAIR LOSS = DHT KEKING YOUR SCALP.
CREATINE MULTIPLIES YOUR DHT BY LIKE 1.5-4 TIMES
HMMMM I WONDER WHAT WILL HAPPEN IF I TAKE CREATINE....
MAYBE....
JUST MAYBE...
I'LLL LOSE A BUNCH OF FUCKING HAIR?!
I wish it wasn't the case but the fact is everything that helps you also cucks you long term.
Steroids = shrunken balls
HGH = lower life span
Creatine = no hair
And then to top that off finasteride = no sex drive or erections
Unfortunately you can't get something out of nothing. Gotta pay for everything. And most of the time the good is not worth the asking price.
By what mechanism could creating increase DHT by 3-4 times though it makes no sense to me
By increasing conversion from testosterone retard. It's common knowledge
>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7871530/
>Specifically, DHT increased by 56% after the seven-day loading period, and remained 40% above baseline values after the 14-day maintenance period.
Where the hell is the 4x increase coming from? Also from this study:
>However, in the van der Merwe et al. [61] study, no increase in total testosterone was found in the 16 males who completed the study. Free testosterone was not measured. Moreover, the increase in DHT and the DHT: testosterone ratio remained well within normal clinical limits. Furthermore, baseline (prior to supplementation), DHT was 23% lower in the creatine group (0.98 nmol/L) compared to the placebo group (1.26 nmol/L). Thus the small increase in DHT in the creatine group (+ 0.55 nmol/L after 7 days of supplementation and + 0.40 nmol/L after 21 days of supplementation), in combination with a small decrease in the placebo DHT response (-0.17 nmol/L after 7 days of supplementation and -0.20 nmol/L after 21 days of supplementation) explains the “statistically significant” increase in DHT noted by van der Merwe et al. [61]. While it is possible that creatine supplementation upregulated 5-alpha-reductase activity in these males (potentially leading to increased formation of DHT), no study has reported hair loss/baldness in humans.
>Furthermore, baseline (prior to supplementation), DHT was 23% lower in the creatine group
Yup. Which means the study is retarded.
So if you add up 23 and 40/56 you get 63 or 78 percent increase in DHT. That's just after 7 and 14 days in these 16 males.
Whether to risk it or not is up to you, but it's your fucking hair on the line
>That's just after 7 and 14 days in these 16 males.
Do you have anything to back up that DHT stacks over time from continued use? It drops after the stacking period into the maintainable period
If this is the case then creatine is a must have supplement, DHT’s benefits are massive across the board everything from muscle growth bone density to mood enhancement it’s literally the wonder hormone
It's true, creatine does all those things and it's confirmed by hundreds of studies. HOWEVER it also fucks your hair and there aren't much studies on that cause there's no money in it.
Doesn't matter, that's quite fucking enough.
>Claim up to a 4x increase in DHT
>Study showing a 40% increase in maintainance dosing of creatine (even lower than the 1.5x minimum)
>Instead of providing evidence of the extremely higher amounts claimed just say 'that's enough to make you bald'
Why would anyone trust you if the data you're giving you can't back up?
There's potentially billion for the hair loss industry. If they could show that creatine causes hair loss, they would be making bank by marketing their hair loss creams to gym bros at the fucking GNC
Is there any point to taking creatine in smaller doses than the recommended 5g/day?
Also when's the best time of the year to order off myprotein? 40% sale going on right now but I could wait a few months.
goat for natty lifters. dont listen to genelets coping with hair loss.
like bags of sand
I think the arguing about hair loss/DHT is pointless because you know what REALLY increases DHT levels? Lifting heavy weights. A HELL of a lot more than 5g of creatine daily is going to do. So better avoid that too while you're at it, lol.
I personally don't use creatine anymore, but have used it on and off ever since I started lifting. I find I do get more energy on it and can pump out more reps. Muscles can also look fuller. It's dirt cheap though, you just need basic creatine mono (brand doesn't matter). Give it a try and see for yourself, it's totally safe.
>I think the arguing about hair loss/DHT is pointless because you know what REALLY increases DHT levels? Lifting heavy weights. A HELL of a lot more than 5g of creatine daily is going to do.
Source? I know it raises test a bit but not sure about DHT
I'm natty at liw bf% 5'10 70kg and creatine bloats my muscles so much i end up mogging guys that are 80kg at my height
It helps with muscles but also it nuked my intestines. If I take creatine for a couple of weeks (5 grams a day or less) it makes my intestines get cramps whenever I eat anything.
just eat meat, nagger
A person's gonna have a real tough time eating enough meat to hit the same amount of creatine from a 5g daily supplement
is it good for women?
been putting collagen in my smoothie but that makes me break out real bad
You're not a woman bro, sorry
why do you baldlets always have to lie to cope
"Not that far from the baseline of the placebo group"
This is so fucking dumb.
Everyone has different baselines. Look at one person's testosterone vs another and chances are there'll be significant differences.
If you fuck with someone's hormone levels, IE what's NORMAL for THEM, you can start messing up the balance of things.
Look at TRT patches, they're supposed to bring you to baseline right? Then why the fuck do people still get side effects being "brought to baseline"
The placebo group had higher DHT iirc. Maybe eating sugar pills causes baldness.
I’m pretty sure it slightly helps my lifts and appearance but it gives me horrible diarrhea which is just not worth it.
Without changing anything in my routine or diet I gained probably 8 pounds of muscle in a month. That's enough for me to keep doing it, seems like free gainz.
Creatine is great but that was not even close to all muscle bro. Creatine causes increased water retention
You're definitely right they didn't get close to that much muscle, but water weight doesn't increase that drastically either, it's not entirely water weight
it's all water not muscle, lmao idiot
I loaded too much and pissed off my kidneys/liver. I was pissing orange and had fat coming out in my urine... Shit was bad.
I remember years ago it was a locker room rumor that creatine made you lose hair. I know it’s anecdotal, but it’s interesting that this rumor was only around creatine. There were all sorts of other crazy ideas about supplements, like whey protein had steroids in it lmao, but for creatine it was specifically that it would make you go bald. Interesting to see the soccer study back up what people had been noticing for years. And I think the other anons are right. The studies that get published are the ones that have enough funding to be studied in the first place. Who in the hell is going to finance a study that, at best, reaffirms the baseline (creatine is harmless) and at worst torpedoes the use of the top supplements in the world