What % of the male population aged 18-35 can squat 2pl8 for 8 reps with good form?
What % of SwoleShack?
What % of the male population aged 18-35 can squat 2pl8 for 8 reps with good form? What % of?
What % of the male population aged 18-35 can squat 2pl8 for 8 reps with good form?
What % of SwoleShack?
Like 5% for your first question.
Like 2% for your second question.
>Like 5% for your first question.
175 million men can squat 2pl8s for 8? Lol, not possible more like 0.1% of men people in both my uni and normie gym stare when I squat just 250 for 9
>Like 2% for your second question.
from the chart can't find it but it is higher like 10-15%
>people stare when you squat 250 for 9
Nigga I squat lmao4pl8 for a 5 and I barely get anyone to even look anywhere in my direction
The only time anyone has ever looked at me while squatting was when I had 3pl loaded and took all the weight off of one side like a retard.. Whole gym looked over at me when that shit catapulted off the rack.
lmfao please go touch some grass
Zoomer alert
are some statistics homosexual or something? who gives a fuck.
Probably around 60% for everyone and 95+ for SwoleShack
8 reps with good form? Dream on, dude.
225 for 8 is novice level buddy. You should hit that with a month or two of being in the gym. If you can't what are you even doing here lmao
ATG high bar no belt you nog.
Yes, a couple of months
Kek as though low bar and a belt add more than 10 lbs at most
>his 495 squat is equivalent to my 275 squat because I did it the right way!
Keep seething goobers. Low bar + front squats is the superior workout
Actually you should be able to do it first week. Dyels I swear
most people in commercial gyms dont squat that after several years, if they even squat at all.
not true at all
anyone that goes to the gym for multiple years consistently will get that easily
I hit 1/2/3/4 literally and honestly within 9 months of first touching a barbell so I understand how these arent impressive lifts to people who lift seriously, what I said was "most people in commercial gyms dont squat that after several years, if they even squat at all." which is 100% true. if you squat 315 (sub 1 year goal for many if they put the effort in) you already squat heavier than something like 98% of the population. You dont understand how low the bar is set. I have seen maybe 4 people squat 3plaet or more to depth in the year and a half Ive been going to my college gym, think about how many people dont even have a gym sub.
I think people also underestimate injuries and how a lot of people are just genetic cucks and not built for it - they don't recover well, get injured, etc. I am:
I have been active all my life and I know guys my age who are clearing 6-plate deadlifts and doing stunts professionally from the MA/parkour world. 90% got injured and dropped out though. Some from very "basic" shit - one kept rolling his ankles more and more on flips and had to give up parkour. Another got his back injured and can't lift anything but moderate, etc.
I guess the moral is - don't get hurt.
what are you doing in the gym if you're not progressing when you have complete beginner lifts after 15 years?
I work full time, with studying / etc, it ends up being 11-12 hour days. I also run 3-5 miles 3 times a week. I also stretch and do martial arts. I think I am just not recovering / eating enough.
My cope is that I am not focused on it. Not sure if valid.
unless you are completely in love with the activity of "running" I suggest that you drop it entirely, both MA and steady state cardio are antithetical to gaining strength/muscle. being strong is helpful for MA and of course you want to keep your heart healthy but even JUST the MA training should be plenty for health-centered cardio.
There's no big reason stretching would keep you at sub 1/2/3/4, what routine do you run / how many days a week do you lift weights? Remember that getting strong helps every single other activity you do, same cant be said for running for example.
I think running is very good for long-term health.
I lifts 3 times a week:
A: Bench / row. Accessories: curls, tricep extensions/dips
B: Weighted pull ups, OHP. Accessories - bw squats, box jumps. Lat pulldowns in chin to solar plexus ROM for muscle up training.
C: Deadlift, baby weight front-squats.
I always do stuff like planks, hip thrusts, and abs because otherwise I get lordosis from sitting all day. These are also morning run/afternoon lifting days.
I do MMA 3 times a week between lift days.
running doesnt do anything that the mma + lifting already does, you would get stronger faster if you stopped it and spared more energy/recovery for your lifting.
Why the fuck are people always so inclined to give advice on something they know nothing about. There’s ZERO replacement for running for combat sports endurance. It’s the best thing for cardiovascular health.
no
because naggers on SwoleShack see the first gains in their life after spending all of their school aged years playing video games and think that doing ONLY HEAVY COMPOUND LIFTS is the ONLY way to be healthy
seriously why even go on this fucking shit board you're all fucking homosexuals
Increased work capacity from running is great for gains long term. Wrestlers, football players, etc run a lot. Don't fall for the rippetoe meme
work capacity in the context of either lifting weights or doing martial arts improves faster when you actually lift weights or do the martial arts. Im not saying running brings no benefits at all, Im saying it doesnt bring anything that isnt already covered more specifically by the lifting + sparring and conditioning he's doing. If I'm getting gassed too quickly during jiu jitsu rolls I start rolling more/with less rest, I dont try to start swimming really far in the hopes that it translates to doing jiu jitsu (or lifting weights for that matter). Running takes away from the recovery of lifting and rolling.
the reason wrestlers and football players run a lot are slightly different, but neither apply to lifting or martial arts in general.
Football players have to run a lot while they are playing football, obviously there's excellent carryover and it doesnt require a football field or coaching, therefore its an acceptable substitute for football itself.
Wrestlers run a lot because conditioning in wrestling is extremely important, strong wrestlers are always taught to go full blast the entire time of their match and to never let off the gas, doing this more often is the absolute best way to get better at it, the best way to condition for wrestling is to just wrestle really hard a lot.
The problem here is that if you wrestle balls to the wall every day you will get injured badly in no time; Wrestling is too laborious to use as conditioning itself so it *requires* different exercise for conditioning purposes.
This does not apply to lifting in general or martial arts in general, you can lift pretty hard 7 days a week getting stronger + increasing work capacity and be fine, you can roll jiujitsu 7 days a week very hard and be fine as well. You cannot wrestle like a wrestler does (I.E 110% throttle no stop) or play football 7 days a week and be fine.
The main point is that if you have the option between simply doing more of your sport / developing your body or doing a different form of conditioning you should always choose your sport / developing your body as long as nothing prevents you from doing so, running is what you do because something is limiting you from going hard at your main sport for the moment.
My point is conditioning is not going to hurt your lifts or take away from recovery unless you're trying to be world class in both endeavors. Similar to how wrestlers don't get their conditioning exclusively from mat time lifters don't have to get their conditioning work in exclusively by lifting. You don't HAVE to run or jump rope or whatever it's just another useful tool that a lot of bros leave on the table because they don't want to do something they're bad at
He has been lifting for 15 years and his deadlift and squat are 225x8 and 135x8 respectively, he is already doing lifting + martial arts 3 times per week each, where the hell is the need for extra cardio that doesnt translate particularly well to either activity (it would be different if his two activities were soccer and hiking or some shit)? Please pay attention. He clearly is either way underrecovered (running 3x lifting 3x MA 3x running is a lot) or is too tired to lift heavy, hence *unless you love running for the sake of gay shit like marathons* you should just drop the running and lift + spar harder so you will get stronger + better at fighting while maintaining the same general cardio. Running doesnt do anything that lifting + martial arts doesnt already do, and they both do many things way better than running. 0 reason to run here.
>Increased work capacity
total meme
I run for 30 min after workout
You guys are normal, don't let some dyel on this board tell you otherwise. If you try to maintain a general athletic physique naturally, you're not going to be pushing a huge amount of weight. You'll hit some limit based on your genes and activity, and that's it. You have retards telling you to stop running (even though you don't run much) just to increase your lifts for what again?
I like lifting and don't like gaining weight. Maybe my genetics are incredibly garbage, but I don't really get stronger unless I gain weight
You can't gain strength without gaining weight because muscles are heavy
I think the 50% of the male population struggle to get into a squatting position, let alone squat 2pl8.
3% for first
0% second fags here don't lift
Not everyone goes to the gym to move weight bigger every time. Some people are training for athletic endeavors, some people are just toughening up some joints in old age. Who cares why someone is in the gym? Play a sport and you'll realize how little carry over conditioning has without technique. 4 plate benchers sometimes can't punch as hard as manlets half their size or move their body up a boulder or do a backflip. What does it matter to be strong when the only task you can perform one specific task? This is coming from someone who squats 4pl8 at 140lbs, getting humbled every week in jitz + sambo and I'm a blue belt.
It has nothing to do with muh mobility. Coaches get old women to squat their first time consistently.
Not every male has a coach?
>(sub 1 year goal for many if they put the effort in)
At what bodyweight
This is the most important part of the equation, it doesn't matter if you can squat 315 if you also weight 315
Can someone explain 1/2/3/4 to me? I never know if people are talking about their 1RM or what whenever they talk about their lifts.
I can squat 120kg for 3x5 and can squat 100kg for 3x10. I just find it really funny that people measure their strength by a single rep that they don't even achieve good form or depth on
If they haven't hit depth, touched chest, or locked out, then they've failed the rep, simple as. But if they can, then 1/2/3/4 for a 1rm is a sufficiently challenging yet achievable good milestone. That's why people use it.
Yeah I understand. I just think people can pull off huge 1RM with shitty form and claim some hugely retarded strength that they don't possess. It just seems like something purely driven by ego. I'm way more interested in somebodies working weight with their sets x reps
lmao. I just use that image to get replies. I weigh 80kg and am 7 months into lifting.
>I weigh 80kg and am 7 months into lifting.
Goes to show that strength is mostly genetics, and everyone flexing their outlier numbers are nothing but outliers
Either that or you're capping hard, post body?
Not sure what your zoomerspeak translates to but a 120kg 5x3 squat after 7 months at 80kg bodyweight is incredibly unexciting
>Haha pretending I don't know what you're talking about so I don't have to proof my bullshit
Ok bro get in line w/ the other lying homosexuals
6ft1 83kg in this photo. Legs are definitely a dominant part of me. This is a couple weeks old at this point. Image has no pump.
Sadly I've gotten quite sick and injured at the same time so lifts have gone down quite a bit. Getting back into gear now though
I need to lose more weight slowly
Should also note that my chest is extremely lacking. I'm working on it slowly and have a bunch of volume on it. My body isn't impressive.
Guess it was genetics after all, good on you
I don't think I have good genetics at all
> Highschool cyclist
> SL 5x5 for a few months. So much volume on squats
> Generally just love squats and legs
Just squat more lmao
Your legs are bigger than average gym go-er already
>Just squat more lmao
I mean you can say that about anything, but let's be real most people don't isolate forearms, calves and neck, and most people hate squatting lol
Well you don't have bad genetics, that's for sure
Dude, 80kg after 7 months is nothing... That's not "outlier strength".
Crap, I meant 120kg @ 80kg.
>Yeah I understand. I just think people can pull off huge 1RM with shitty form and claim some hugely retarded strength that they don't possess
Don't worry they can't, so it doesn't matter what you think. Its obvious to people who are familiar with a lift if it's too a high enough standard. If someone can squat 700lbs to depth with no bouncing at the bottom etc, they actually possess that strength
>Weeb talks about his 0.5x bodyweight squat for reps
what's so funny about it? that's literally how you measure your absolute peak strength.
when people talk about how fast they can run 100m they talk what's your fastest 100m you run.
not 100m for 3 times or 5 times. you have to have a set standard when you measure something. 1 rep max is a pretty straightforward standard. not 3x5 with 1 minute rest time or 5x5 with 3 minute rest time. but yeah it is fairly irrelevant since you realistically should probably never be doing 1 rep maxes unless you are "showing off", or competing or whatever. its been like 5 years since i have tried a 1 rep max with any lift i have performed. theres just no point really.
What are you dyels on about? You should be able to squat lmao2pl8 at around 2 years old. 3pl8 at three, 4pl8 at four and so on.
It's like no one even lifts around here anymore.
>99yrs old and 99pl8
how to agemax
To give you some inspiration OP - I am in my 30s, lifted for 15 years, but I don't back squat due to injuries.
I DL 3x8 @225 and front squat 3x8 @ 135 (lol1plaet).
4/3/2/1 are really good numbers irl, outside of professional body builders.
Of course, if you are going to lift, you shouldn't use the "I am not professional" excuse.
Lmao @ those numbers after 15 years. You're 100% left-leaning. You have ZERO fire in you. How the fuck is your body so weak after so many years of training? Those numbers are obtainable by anyone who is cancer/AIDS free after 6 months in the gym. have a nice day. Quit taking up space in the gym god damn what the fuck are you doing with your life?
are you even trying
I am still a dyel
I workout for an hour 4 times a week
and I surpassed you on deadlifts 2 months in
15 years? what have you been doing all that time
kek - depending on what weight he is some of those lifts should be doable by some absolute beginners, I swear some on their first ever attempt.
Seems a bit like dedicating 15 years of your life to training and practicing almost every week for a sport, boardgame or videogame and getting beaten by someone completely new on their first day. Practicing piano almost every day for 15 years and after all that time you can play a few chords and some dude takes it up on his first day and is better than you!
Or going to medical school and coming out knowing about as much practical knowledge as the average public could with a google search (oh wait, that's typical...)
I'm so sorry man but it's over, I've been lifting for 3 months and my DL is 5x5 235lb and 135lb squat after not having done it for 5 months.
3 months consecutively I mean, about 6 months total. Forgot people can't read my mind.
Look dude I don't want to be one of those guys that trolls by saying "you should be hitting 1/2/3/4 for reps in 3 weeks" but 1/2/3/4 are not even close to really good numbers for anyone actually devoting their time to strength training. For women maybe, sure, but not men.
You sound like a total fucking DYEL retard saying shit like this you know? Body weight is one of the most significant measurements required for taking into account strength level, just spitting out raw numbers like "1/2/3/4 for reps" without context is fucking meaningless. A 150lb dude achieving that is elite level lifting, a 250lb man it's not impressive at all.
Okay but unironically, isn’t 2pl8s actually really low? I’ve only been going to the gym for about a month and can do 225 for 5 reps, which by the way I might have always been able to do but only recently tried because some HS kids fucking mogged me. Not exaggerating at all, 3 little Mexicans all young as fuck and each about 130 pounds. They all did varying amounts of reps of 225 AFTER doing several sets of lower weights. The lowest was like 3 reps and the strongest did like 10 in fucking skinny jeans. I’m a fat fuck so MAYBE that explains me, but not these actual children. There’s no way 225 is 95th percentile.
A lot of gym goers don’t even work out legs, and if they do it’s dumbbell/body weight squats, cardio, etc. I would say a 2 plate bench is several times more common than a 3 plate squat even though they take comparable amounts of training to achieve
Sure, but my point was sort of that it shouldn’t be that far from most peoples starting point? But then replies suggesting that get sarcastic shit like “yea you should be able to 3pl8 as a baby”. Also a lot of people throwing up really high percentiles. Is it all just cope?
Sort of. Definitely attainable on a LP but most people have less strength than you think
>Sure, but my point was sort of that it shouldn’t be that far from most peoples starting point?
That's correct. Unless someone is seriously anatomically fucked up, they should be able to achieve a lmao2plate squat to proper depth within a few months of starting, completely untrained.
However, that's not the question at hand. The question is how common is it that people can actually do it? And the answer is "incredibly uncommon". Not because it's hard, but simply because very VERY few people actually train squats at all.
Yeah 2plate is really low, many adult men could probably squat that immediately even if they don't have the mobility to hit powerliftting depth or whatever
Sure with the most basic of coaching they would.
But have you seen the average gym person? They’re typically seen in a brand new pair of running shoes quarter squatting 60kg with some fractional plates under their heel.
60%? Unironically the answer is closer to 6%
more like 6% of guys who lift weights and 0.06% of the general population.
>95+ for SwoleShack
Too obvious at the end
Gonna have to fail you for that part. Stick the landing retard
Bullshit. I never see anybody squat at the gym except women and they do like 70 pounds. If nobody at the gym has the balls to squat you can bet your ass normies would struggle with 1 pl8.
Normies are obese dude. That counts for a lot. I got my father lifting SS and with a couple of months he was squatting 3pl8s. Maybe gym going bunnies might struggle to lift 70lbs, but the 400lb Tess holidays of the world squat that everytime they get up off a couch.
A couple years ago I did back squats with 120kg for reps every week.
Front squats for reps with 100kg.
Never saw anyone at my DYEL gym do even close to those weights even though they are rather low.
pantyboy
I've seen a 2pl8 squat maybe twice in my gym. Yet everyone seems to bench 3pl8s like it ain't no thang. It's a bit confusing.
do you work out at the Walter Reed amputee wing gym or something
I bench 340 and squat 250 pounds. I think my quads are defined enough so I squat 5x5 180 every 2-3 weeks. Really it’s more like legs don’t require that much work to be decently aesthetic compared to chest and shoulders. Most people don’t want to put in the effort to keep going just for strength reasons, especially when most people aren’t that impressed by a heavy squat compared to a heavy bench or oly lift
Is everyone in your gym chicken-legged or do they just exclusively use machines?
ask me how I know you go to planet f*tness
Depends I can do 100 kg for sets of 15 reps but I see everyone else In the gym not going as low and for fewer reps with less or more weight
i can do 150kg for 8 18 years old 90kg bw
id guess honestly like 3%
id hope at least like 25% of fit
I can do 10 easy, probably more but never tried. It's low-bar though because I fell for the SS meme. Lifting for a year and a half.
You people really overestimate the fitness of the general population
Spend all day comparing yourself to other lifters and it's easy to forget most people don't care about lifting at all.
seriously more than half of america is unfuckable obese blobs and 90% of the rest of the world is DYEL/skinnyfat low BMI retards with shit nutrition
the average person in the world is some indian or chinese manlet who gets no pussy
I literally started squatting 2pl8 my first day in the gym
I doubt that. Rippetoe said of all the people he's coached anyone who squats 2 plates their first time in the gym is extraordinarily rare.
I was 320lbs and played lineman in highschool
70% bodyweight squats weren’t that impressive
Kind of irrelevant and dumb post anon
>irrelevant and dumb
?
Being heavy and playing contact sports is very relevant to explain how an otherwise untrained person could squat 225lbs
You played football and didn't lift? What was your coach a fucking retard or you go to a nog school where they had too many crimes happen in the weight room so they shut it down?
>What was your coach a fucking retard or you go to a nog school where they had too many crimes happen in the weight room so they shut it down?
Our school was old and bushleague as fuck, so the weight room was too small to be of any use. Keep in mind too this is in leafland where football isn’t the national religion, so teams don’t get nearly as competitive.
Our coaches didn’t really bother with training/conditioning, so all we did was was run drills and scrimmage during practice. We didn’t have meal plans or programs.
Even then, I was able to squat 2pl8 easily, because being fat is the ultimate resistance training.
When did you squat the 2 plates and what makes you think it wasn't 8 inches high?
I rarely see gym-goers actually squat lmao2plate, much less to proper depth. And that's of the dudes in the gym actually squatting at all. If we're talking about the general population, we're talking a fraction of a fraction of a percent.
>2plates!
How much that is in kg? Fucking Americans speaks Greece to me
102.3kg
2pl8 is a ohp weight. why would anyone talk about it like its a weight you would use for squat?
I see you're not a very bright person are you. For some it's a weight they would use for squat, hence they talk about it for squat.
i see you aren't a real person and some kind of weak sub-class of humanoid.
I DON'T CARE. YOU ARE A RETARD. FUCK OFF.
>caps lock
>doesn't care
Yeah, i don't believe naggers
Because it's a weight everyone once had to use for squat, you small-dicked homo
Is that good?
>4/3/2/1 are really good numbers irl,
Honestly I would be pretty surprised if someone ohp 4 plates but only dl 1
Apparently lol4plaet is around the world record. Didn't watch that video, was just curious. I imagine under 1% can ohp over 2plaet.
A world record? A record of the world?
Does anyone know what shoes those are?
Probably around 5-10%. Probably about 1/3 of gym rats can do that since most don’t squat, get injured, are injured etc. The average man in that age range can probably squat about 120 for 1 rep
I did 20 reps of 100kg squat on my 5/3/1+, 4 days ago. Sure the reps after 16 were a grind and probably ugly as fuck. My 1rm is 160kg barefoot atg so it kinda translate.
75% of the US squats 100kg just getting off the toilet seat.
nice one
Exactly, avrg american is 180-200LB. They should have problem with squatting 2pl8 with good form.
Not me. I'll get there one day
dont squat but Press™ 1pl8. am i above normies?
Why the fuck would you even squat? It does almost nothing for aesthetics. Just use a some of the machines like the leg curls
Wasting a whole day for fucking legs in the gym is hilarious. Do you really think girls are impressed you can ""squat 2pl8"" ? They care about arms chest abs and face. No your fucking fat ass thighs
>Muh muh core strength
LOL
ackshually chicks love fit ass
>chest
lmao if you'd say shoulder and wide back it would be more reliable
I am doing stronglifts program with 2.5 kg increase, I'll hit 2pl8x5 next week
lmao enjoy your t rex physique
I also do pull-ups and chin-ups in those workout days
My arms look alright
I know I can @140lbs and I'm only like upper intermediate, so probably a lot
I once hit 2pl8 for 20 reps high bar. However I was fuelled by England beating Germany in the 2021 euros so this may not be achievable natty
I did too, but with a belt, so idk if valid. Somehow with a belt the squats get so easy, or maybe I just cannot breath and brace myself properly without.
>with good form?
This is the kicker.
Very rare.
ATG squats are the rarest lifts you will ever see. I bet most guys itt are not getting depth with good hip and ankle positioning. If they are, they are shoelets.
It took me years to get the flexibility and mobility in my hips and ankles. Then from there even more time to build strength to squat heavy. While doing this I was also focused on all the other lifts. So yeah it takes time and attn to detail which most people do not have. Especially if you have a career and a life. However, if youre an autist like me you grind it out. That said, Id say 2 percent of general pop and 5 percent of fit due to the autism found here.
>shoelets
?
Gymbros buy special shoes with a high sole to angle the foot forward. This gives them more ankle movement at the bottom of a squat.
got you
No. I squat barefoot as God intended.
if u believe in god, then u believe he is all knowing and all seeing, everything that happens is as he intended u daft cunt
god worshippers are always brainlets
Atheists are such retards that they bring up teenage tier arguments as if they are the first people on earth to ever think of them and present them as absolute indisputable fact
Im agnostic and I hope you have a nice day for posting something this retarded. Stop watching atheist youtubers homosexual.
Ass too grass isn't good form. "Good form" mostly means keeping hips/ass under you and going just below parallel, in a relitave smooth motion, and then exploding up.
Most people who squat have there ass out behind them, not standing straight and don't even hit parallel
>Ass too grass isn't good form
Huh?
Are you saying that max range of motion isnt good form?
If so, your opinion doesnt matter
.
>bu-bu-but my max range of motion!!!!
No thanks, not blowing out my back.
For full range of motion I'd rather do front squats
>I'm too retarded to do it without snapping my shit up so it must be bad for everyone
Those digits shit on retard nagger. I did horrifically injure my back doing 3 plates on each side ass to grass.
I can’t do Aspergers to grasspergers but I can break parallel 2pl8.
I can get maybe 5% lower with 1pl8 so I think it’s really just my hips and ankles. I have no idea how to fix them and most online sources don’t give a good explanation for guys like me with weird hip bone structure
Getting low without proper mobility will create 'butt wink'. Basically your hips start to rotate. This can be dangerous to the low back as your spine looses thoracic extension. This is why most coaches will tell you to not go atg. It makes their job easier without opening a can of worms. Doing this is really limiting your range of motion thou and you loose a lot of strength and explosive power not getting down in the hole.
Working on hip mobilty and ankle mobility will get you there. Theres many different stretches just pick a few and try them. If you dont like em try new ones.
Hell just holding that stretched position by getting deeper and deeper in that position everyday without weight and maintaining proper form helped me.
zero reason to do atg
I didn't do proper BB squats for 5, maybe 6 years until a few weeks ago. I got under the bar and worked my way up to 225 without much problem or sacrificing form. I would say 225 on squat is the 135 on bench... most fit people can do it if they attempted it for the first time without being explicitly conditioned for it. Like I think a guy who runs 20 miles a week as his primary exercise could hope under the bar and bust out squats at 225
Normies probably like 50%
SwoleShack 10% seriously you are all weak as fuck
100% of SwoleShack can squat 8pl8s for 8 sets of 8 reps.
2pl8 squat is not impressive at all, why are you worried about percentages? Did you recently hit a 2pl8 squat and want to see how you stack up? You are weak.
>Yeah 2plate is really low, many adult men could probably squat that immediately even if they don't have the mobility to hit powerliftting depth or whatever
Lmao holy fack
He thinks he will sound extremely alpha and superior if he overestimates what a complete beginner can do. You are speaking to some of the most genuinely retarded people in the world right now.
high reps on squats is hard on my breathing if i wanna brace. i have done 15 reps with 100kg but that's still dyel
>i have done 15 reps with 100kg but that's still dyel
No it isn't. Stop listening to the fuckwits on this board.
it is weak for my bodyweight at 90kg bw
According to what? This board? Some strength standard website where no one could possibly lie?
How many people do you know in real life who can do that?
Dont waste your time. Dude is lying dyel. No way anyone who spends any amount of time under 225 or in a gym would say that.
nagger i weigh 90kg. this is dyel weight for me. my legs aren't even big or bulky
Well post it. Lots of yappity yapp but the only bros posting up are the same ones saying its not dyel weight. Weird how that works.
cus they're all shorter and therefore lighter probably. legs are my weak point due to calisthenics
in 10 years I've been to at least 8 different gyms ranging from commercial to more serious and I can count with one hand the ammount of people I've seen squat 2 plates for reps with good form
I can't tell you with any degree of accuracy what percentage of the male population can lift 2pl8x8, but I can tell you with utter confidence that I can easily do this.
Like 0.1% maybe
The correct answer is that almost none in the overall population can, because they don't train the squat.
However for a normal male that squats that is literally not even an accomplishment.
My gf, with no training background at all, has non-committedly trained squat for about a year in total and can do 3x5 with 90kg perfect form.
(only does squat cuz I make her when we go to the gym together)
>zero reason to do atg
Ngmi
Yeah lifting more weight than you by not artificially handicapping myself means I won't make it
Hey to get real full range of motion you should be standing on a bosu ball, you aren't getting the full ankle mobility you should. After all 'mobility' and ROM are THE most important things in lifting.
Yes ROM is very important. Lifting is founded on your mobility, so yes also very important. Dyel bro?
Post body
Your turn homosexual
How's the weather down there
Also
>No legs
>shirt on
Enough chit chat
Post body
Sorry bro, I don't care what you think of me
'You win'
hahahaha
Another homosexual dyel larping on a fitness board
Post a real time-stamped body pic not some close up of your fat arm
Nah post up or youre just another dyel larping homosexual
>Post body
>Posts a bicep with the rest of his body covered up
What you got? Post body
youre old enough to have greys in your beard and youre acting like this on the internet? shame
LMAO post your height, those stubby manlet arms man
>homosexual tranny calls someone a manlet
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t. midwit
>ROM is le important... so the most important thing is the most ROM!!
If you physically can't hit ATG, that's ok, but you should be trying to create the biggest stretch possible.
Why?
because it grows more muscle.
No, lifting more weight to parallel does. Going extra low doesn't do much.
This shit is what gets people hurt..
What happens when you load up muh more weight, dip BELOW parallel and your body doesnt have the strength to come out of the hole because youve been half reping like a retard?
Congrats on building a house of cards.
Ive seen this first hand on more then one occasion where dude folds up or bails. You best be practicing bailing weight because someday your skill will be tested. If you fail to bail, you will be crushed.
Or you could just get strong down low and not worry.
Choice is yours guy.
What in the fuck are you talking about
Seriously how can a human be this retarded
Ok, look. You absolute morons.
You can lift more weight squatting to parallel than you can squatting ATG. There is absolutely zero dangerous about this. Just so we are clear here, are you suggesting otherwise? I hope to God you both just misunderstood me and aren't actually as stupid as it looks.
You know damn well what I mean, you disingenuous pilpul homosexual. Ywnbaw
Ok. you are a moron. I never told anyone to half rep. If you squat to parallel there is about zero risk of randomly dipping down super far for no reason and injuring yourself. Squatting ATG because you are afraid of that is about the same as walking around with inflatable pool wings on in case you fall into a river.
It is more dangerous to squat 4 plate to parallel when you can only hit 2.5 ATG than it is to just squat 2.5 ATG, yes. This wont increase your parallel lift quite as fast (because that's an arbitrary specific lift/technique) but will grow more actual muscle (which you could later train specifically to squat max weight to just parallel anyway), be safer during the lift and will be better for your joints in the long term. The reason you stop at parallel is for one or more of the following 4 reasons:
1) You want to compete some place where all that matters is what you squat to parallel - okay fine, enjoy having better competition stats at the expense of superior leg development. At least this makes sense.
2) You are a mobilitylet/too poor to buy lifting shoes - this is a poor excuse and you are a lazy shitty lifter
3) You are egolifting - have a nice day
4) You took a fat powerlifter's (see #1) word for it - see above
this is both untrue and unsafe
> people dont isolate forearms
4 years ago the question would have been in regards to OHP. Now it's squats. You zoomers are so fucking pathetic lmao. Every single person under 25 in my gym is a skinny weakling with the dumbest fucking routine. Flexing their 13 inch, 15% bodyfat, flabby arms in the mirror. It's fucking hilarious. No wonder all their women are getting BLACKED. Zoomers are the most BETA generation. Pacifist pussies
>Ok grandpa
They're all have the exact same elementary-tier response too lmao
>post body
Done, now you. Or how about just wrists since we all know you're too fucking disgusting looking to post anything as revealing as your fat stomach. What? Can't even post wrists? Lmao!!
People say ok grandpa because you know 0 actual zoomers, so you're kind of like NH who just rants about shit he really doesn't even come in contact with
>Every single person under 25 in my gym is a skinny weakling with the dumbest fucking routine.
It's because they haven't been lifting for long enough dumbass, they're there to grow bigger
You look like someone who uses grindr, midget
>y-you don't know any zoomers! They don't really go to your gym!
>you're like this guy on YouTube!
>you look like you use this app!
>no wrists
Hahahahhaha have a nice day you pathetic little bitch
Bro -->
4 years ago the question would have been in regards to OHP. Now it's squats. You zoomers are so fucking pathetic lmao. Every single person under 25 in my gym is a skinny weakling with the dumbest fucking routine. Flexing their 13 inch, 15% bodyfat, flabby arms in the mirror. It's fucking hilarious. No wonder all their women are getting BLACKED. Zoomers are the most BETA generation. Pacifist pussies
>Ok grandpa
They're all have the exact same elementary-tier response too lmao
>post body
Done, now you. Or how about just wrists since we all know you're too fucking disgusting looking to post anything as revealing as your fat stomach. What? Can't even post wrists? Lmao!! wrists are average asf what are you talking about
>no wrist pic
Hahahahhahahah holy shit imagine how dog shit your body must be if even your wrists are indicative of how shitty your diet and lifestyle is. Why the fuck are you on the internet? Get your disgusting ass in the gym you lazy fuck
>Old
>Gay
>below 5'6
>Brainrot
Uuuh ok..? Big winner over here
>disgusting body
>posting on SwoleShack
The quintessential incel
Ok Hercules, big man
>still replying
>no wrists
Go ahead and get the last word in. I'm sure it's the first W you've had in a very long time
Getting the last word is not a W, not having complete soul- and brainrot above the age of 25 is
Your picture of your 6 inch wrists is not a flex bro
I'd personally take his body if it came with brain rot. Why are you even replying to him?
>saturation filter
>blacked poster
i can smell your disgusting aura from the screen
>zoomer talking about "aura"
Lmao you fags are all so fucking gay
go suck a nagger dick for your midlife crisis, freak
>zoomer talking about sucking nagger dicks
Hahahaha that's what your zoomer women are for, you little bitch. Go look in the mirror to remind yourself how weak and pathetic you are compared to me
reality check retard. zoomer women are supposed to be yours. zoomer men get generation alpha. if they're fucking naggers that's says more about you that it does for zoomers you mentally ill freak
>unironically uses the word "freak" online (incel)
>"let me tell you how relationships work"
Hahahahahhaa you're so deluded it's unreal.
cope, retard
Seethe, Dilate then see
>21 y/o
>5'7, 147 lbs
>squat 3pl x 3 good form (struggling hard as shit tho)
>cant bench over 165lbs x 1
the fuck? also my legs are wider than my torso lol
It just be like that sometimes bro. My squat is terrible (like 80kg for 5), but I can deadlift 180kg.
Don't ask me how.
I'd hope for at least 50% but I'd say 20% could squat with bad form and maybe 8% with good
If the spergs arguing in this thread are anything to go by I'd say 0.05% of fit could do it with good form.
Most guys in my gym either don't squat or do those weird quarter reps where they stop when the quads start to work so they never get stronger at the lift.
I'm at the gym 9 months now and do 95x5, so close to 2 plates, as low as possible, calfs touching hammies
I'm 37
Last week I squatted 410x8 for 2 sets
Followed by 3x8 box squats
Banded good mornings
And goblet squats
Age doesn't matter
Work ethic and consistency do
I could do that as a skelly
Lel, at age 18 71kg Bw I got 100kg squat for 20reps high bar, only issue now is my ass is massive.
1%
1%
maybe even less
people overestimate these things so hard 90% of people cant even squat the bar
>people overestimate these things so hard 90% of people cant even squat the bar
are you fucking retarded? are you a little chink or what
do u think 1 in 10 people go to the gym?
no the fuck they dont
its literally 20kg
how dumb are you? if youre genetic deadend, be honest about it, dont cope and say that 90% cant even squat 20kgs
ur thinking within the parameters of 18-40yo males, not all males
and have you ever seen little twig zoomer cunts try to lift?
straight brainlet
I would say the biggest challenge for western fatass men isn't squatting 45lbs - it's being mobile enough to squat at all with proper ROM. The squat is always the biggest meme lift at my gym where not even half of them get close to breaking parallel.
Hot take: parallel is as low as you should go
I dunno I don't do squats, only DLs but i hit the squat rack the other night and ripped out 10 reps at 1pl8 despite not having touched it in 5~ months. I'd probably be at 2pl8 for reps if I wasn't a lazy fag and kept squatting.
>I don’t do squats
Holy shit bruh, have a nice day please
Not I. Saw some stick of a bugman do 2 1/2 though. One of the few times I was just blatantly staring at someone
General population: less than 1%
/fit/: less than 0.1%
I squatted 225 x 5 my first day of SS as a 165 lb 19-year-old absolute dyel
I don't understand how people are so fucking bad at squatting
this entire thread makes me cringe
who even talks about a sub-3pl8 squat? you should be exceeding 3pl8 after like a couple of months at most
what the fuck is wrong with this board
and you guys are talking about how you don't need to squat over 2pl8 for nice legs
what the fuck
i squat over 5pl8 for reps now and my legs still ain't that great
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>I squatted 225 x 5 my first day of SS as a 165 lb 19-year-old absolute dyel
Pretty much everything you said, didn't happen.
You got folded over for ego lifting and someone probably caught you on camera trying to "squat" 225 on your toes into a quarter squat.
When I first started squatting my max was 185 and I had been doing pistol squats and flipping tires at my parents' barn for a while for workouts. I squat 200+kg now and it took 6 years to get there and getting injured in between. Not everyone's in the gym looking for numbers you stupid gymcel
It is very low. Probably 5% or so. Especially if we're talking ATG. Most on here would downplay that weight, because it's not a very impressive feat if you habitually lift. It's attainable for most men if they try. But the thing is, the majority of men do not try.
most men are dumb as fuck and "have lives" but they know that even if they did try they wouldn't be able to squat below parallel repping 2pl8s before they gave up
I just hit 2pl8 for 10 full depth reps last week, felt great but man do I hate going heavier and heavier on legs. I hit 305 1rm, once I hit 3pl8 I'm gonna focus on high reps/endurance for a while as I cut
People on here will say it's baby weight but very few people at my gym ever squat more than 3pl8 with the exception of a couple of powershitters and PED heads once in a blue moon. Most people seem content with just doing high rep, low weight of around 185-225 when it comes to squats, I think a lot of normies get freaked out by the idea of going really heavy with it similar to deadlifts and just want to get the aesthetics with machines and other less "risky" movements instead.
First part, like 0.1%
Second part, like 1%
I just did 2pl8 for 20 this morning
Sry for sideways bathroom graffiti I found, phoneposting ):
>No squats posted
Shame
Nice, best i've done is 30 to parallel
>no (You)s for based plutez
good liffs as always my man
I can't even maintain form at 1pl8
Why live
I think like maybe 10% of men can squat 225 for even 1 rep at any point in their lives. Most people are much more capable of doing things than they will ever know or care to know.
Id guess less than 5%, thats way beyond what anyone is going to do without serious training and even most guys who lift dont focus on squats to that extent. If we assume 1/3 of guys in that age range lift regularly, maybe 10-15% of those that do lift.
Id guess probably 10-15% of SwoleShack as well most on this board are dyel beginners but there is a core of gymcel autist powerlifters.
I can squat 4pl8 for 8 reps with good form.
oh btw I'm fat lol
And I’m trans too btw
And I love sucking bbc fwiw
I can squat up to 3 pl8 like its not a big deal and could go much more, but my core can't keep up and my glutes wont activate adequately, so I just end up with massive quads and hams that already get tight and doms symptoms by the 2nd set...
I also have knee arthritis which kind of psychologically inhibits my lifts if im not wearing knee sleeves, since I don't think that would really affect a squat in any way. They just feel 'weak' as a point of failure without knee sleeves even though i don REALLY need them.
3 pl8 is honestly fine though if I can just kind of hold there, my legs look better than 99% of people I know but I have hank hill ayss
sry for the blogpost
Are you asking for help or just bitching?
I did fall for the femdom israelite but I don't really like feminization, trans, bbc, etc. They're pretty lowbrow, knee jerk fetishes.
>Are you asking for help or just bitching?
yes
I found out about 'lower cross syndrome' recently, that could be the culprit maybe but what do I know?
>Core isn't keeping up
You should add more heavy carries. McGill big 3 gets pushed a lot, but nobody ever really considers the next step. You have to build strength. Do carries - trust me, they'll help.
You might also want to make sure you're doing knee/leg raises, side bends, fireman's carry styled crunches (so oblique work), and anti rotational work.
>glutes wont activate adequately
Add deep squats to your program. If you already squat very deep, add wide stanced parallel squats.
Start doing pull throughs as part of your warmup.
You could also benefit from;
>Single Leg RDLs
>Kettle/DB swings
>Pause Squats
>Paused Box Squats
Hip thrusts are also useful but I don't use them myself so I won't bring them up in greentext, as if they're part of my special, magical recipe.
>I also have knee arthritis which kind of psychologically inhibits my lifts if im not wearing knee sleeves
Okay, that's fine. I don't think you'll be chasing any naked knee competitions anytime soon anyways. Put your knee sleeves on and quityerbellyaching
>3 pl8 is honestly fine though if I can just kind of hold there, my legs look better than 99% of people I know but I have hank hill ayss
I'm sorry but do you happen to know a nice distribution of people who do and don't go to the gym on a regular basis? This sounds like a stupid thing to say. It's your own attitude holding you back. You're fulling capable of developing the nicest legs on the planet, make Platz' jaw drop with awe but instead you're here posting on SwoleShack about wha wha wha I can't get past 3pl8.
Also train your lats.
thx bro
I think im just finally paying the price for only doing compound lifts and no accessories.
Turns out they are actually quite necessary. I'll heed the advice and incorporate some.
They're extremely necessary. Also, the urge to overcomplicate is going to be real. Just focus on working hard and keeping enough gas in the tank to get yourself home and cook up some steak. If you're so beat you can't do that, you're training too damn hard. If you're not willing to woof down a pound of beef, you should probably lift a little harder.
Extremely r/fitness post
Friday I squatted 225 for 6 reps. It was a PR for me.
Also wtf i was banned for replying to roll derails? those are funny why is that bannable? I just want to see which Jailfu I got.
well my highest squat is 325 x 1 and I am comfortably repping 225 for 8+, I think the most I ever did was 295 x 2 or 275 x 3.
that being said I rarely see people squatting as high as I do or as frequently. idk what it is
That’s like 50% body weight of 90% American men
Probably close to 99% don’t even squat. So that number is going to be pretty low.
i see the same people at my gym for the last 8 months, i rarely if at all see any of them squat or even hit legs. its pathetic
I took the "squat pill", yesterday I squated 81kg (178lb) for 20 reps and tomorrow I will try 100-105kg (220-231lb) and if everything went well I will include it in my routine
I do 2 plates and a 25 on each side for 8. This is sad
just low barred 255lb for triples today, been seriously back into lifting for ~4 months but I've lifted on and off for 7 years, most I've ever squatted with correct form and no pain and reps was 275lb, was 17 at the time. squatting heavy with good form never feels "not heavy as fuck", you just get stronger. it's not an "enjoyable" lift in the same sense as a bench or even DL.
at the gym, with good form, I never really see people squat, and I go to a weightlifting gym. maybe just the time of day that I go but I'm usually the only person there squatting. most I've ever seen was 1 dude doing 4pl8 and he had ass form/not to depth
ill add the hammer squat thing and the leg presses are VERY popular though, especially with girls. which is ironic bcuz if you want a giant ass very quickly, just squat kek. ruins your ability to find pants
as a side note I'm seeing a lot more zoomer girls weightlifting now which is pretty cool. not just meme lifts either
Why would you ever do more than 5 reps?
Squatting just doesn’t seem worth it any more at my age. I’m 36 and will never be a power lifter, but I always feel like I neglected my body if I don’t do them. I try to back squat and front squat at least once a week. When I was younger every time I’d did 3plts or more my form would slip a little and would have back pain. Now my goal is to just be able to reach 275 for 10 reps if 3-5 sets. Just don’t see the point of going past that at my body weight. At 185x10x3 now so should get there soon.
1%
everyone has a pathetic ROM
if its not ass to grass its not valid
simple as
>if its not ass to grass its not valid
Powershitters inbound.
Prepare to be attacked by illogical SS screeching from 42 inch waistlines.