Just look in the mirror you retard moron. Do you look or do you look fat? You probably look like a fat shit, hence you making this thread. But post body just to make sure.
>the skinny dude look has always been a thing, no one likes fatties, ever
Don't be ridiculous, a lot of women really hate skinny dudes. Fat on the other hand, as long as we're talking European fat and not American fat, a lot of women go for.
As a heterosexual male you prefer the skinny look but you're looking at things from a very different perspective to how a woman sees it.
>women don't like skinny guys >fatty cope: the post
Look at all those skinny actors and musicians that every girl wants to fuck. Pretty much every rock star of the 20th century was DYEL yet could fuck any girl they wanted.
Now you could say "they're attractive because they have status", but no woman fantasizes about chubby guys, even if they're rich and famous. Being fat negates any other positive trait you might have.
First off any time someone says "hurr hurr: the post" you automatically know they're a zoomer retard. I have never had any issues with my weight, in fact I've been underweight a few times. I used to be able to say I never hit the overweight category, but when I was bulking I did so I guess I can't say that anymore. To be honest I don't know if I have hit it again right now. I guess I would like to be skinnier. However my weight is not some big problem for me. I have never been "fat", people with muscle obviously weight more. In fact I think it is you who aren't able to think straight because of serious weight issues you have. "hurrr hurrr fatty cope: the post". Tosspot.
>Look at all those skinny actors and musicians that every girl wants to fuck. Pretty much every rock star of the 20th century was DYEL yet could fuck any girl they wanted. >Now you could say "they're attractive because they have status", but no woman fantasizes about chubby guys, even if they're rich and famous. Being fat negates any other positive trait you might have.
wtf are you talking about. Plenty of actors are chubby, especially over 50 and get young girls all the time. Rockstars are often very thin yes, that has nothing to do with why they get girls, it is status. I mean there are different levels of dadbod.
Look I'm sick of this shit and am ending our conversation here. The point is that girls do not want skinny guys most of the time but often like chubby ones. You can ignore it or invent your own reality to suit whatever motivations you are trying to create for yourself to lose weight. Either way I am done here, I'm not going to entertain your trolling any longer.
I only started getting serious attention from women after I gained about eighty pounds while bulking. I went from an extremely lean slightly muscular kid at 130ish pounds to quite strong and big but chubby and over 200 pounds. But honestly when I had abs no one cared. Girls kept telling me they like my "dad bod". So take from that what you will.
Getting big while having clear muscle definition is the goal. But you have a weight zone that you are not allowed to cross otherwise you'll get fat. For me at 5'10, getting over 185-195 lbs is not reccomended unless you're already lean and muscular at that weight. Still got way heavier often times and have been over 200 lbs since two years lol. Right now at 215 and I still have a gut. Getting a gut as a Bodybuilder is a joke and if I manage to get down to 185 I swear I will recomp and just maintain that weight for the next year or two.
215 pound it was easier talking to girls but harder to close.
180 pound lean, vascular arms and abs its harder to talk to girls but easier to get sex from them.
I'm kind of conflicted as to why. Do they think I'm some sort of fuckboi at around 10%bf?
Getting ripped is cope for ugly, small-dicked manlets tbh
Not being obese > muscle definition >leanness > sheer size but the reality is a tall dyel fatass with a dad bod, symmetric face and 8" cock will be more attractive to women than the most swole of small-dicked ugly manlet bodybuilders
Leanness, but you already knew that
+1
Is a body fat percentage between 15% and 19% considered too fat?
I can see my upper abs and overall a good shape in the mornings. But a lot of times I feel like I look "soft" during the day.
whatever makes you feel/look good, its invividual
Just look in the mirror you retard moron. Do you look or do you look fat? You probably look like a fat shit, hence you making this thread. But post body just to make sure.
leanness if you want to look good naked.
muscle mass, posture, and fitting clothes if you want to look good clothed
cope, if you work a desk job where you wear dress shirts and khaki pants, the leanness gives you nearly nothing to show for
>doesn't mention jaw definition
this. just don't be a skelly but be lean
both retard
Muscle mass with shirt on, leanness with shirt off. Unfortunately, you have a shirt on 99% of the time, so…
Yes
Nobody cares how much muscle you have if you are 30% fat
and nobody cares how lean u are if its all skin bones thats why u need both to look good
the skinny dude look has always been a thing, no one likes fatties, ever
>the skinny dude look has always been a thing, no one likes fatties, ever
Don't be ridiculous, a lot of women really hate skinny dudes. Fat on the other hand, as long as we're talking European fat and not American fat, a lot of women go for.
As a heterosexual male you prefer the skinny look but you're looking at things from a very different perspective to how a woman sees it.
>women don't like skinny guys
>fatty cope: the post
Look at all those skinny actors and musicians that every girl wants to fuck. Pretty much every rock star of the 20th century was DYEL yet could fuck any girl they wanted.
Now you could say "they're attractive because they have status", but no woman fantasizes about chubby guys, even if they're rich and famous. Being fat negates any other positive trait you might have.
>european fat
What does this even mean?
First off any time someone says "hurr hurr: the post" you automatically know they're a zoomer retard. I have never had any issues with my weight, in fact I've been underweight a few times. I used to be able to say I never hit the overweight category, but when I was bulking I did so I guess I can't say that anymore. To be honest I don't know if I have hit it again right now. I guess I would like to be skinnier. However my weight is not some big problem for me. I have never been "fat", people with muscle obviously weight more. In fact I think it is you who aren't able to think straight because of serious weight issues you have. "hurrr hurrr fatty cope: the post". Tosspot.
>Look at all those skinny actors and musicians that every girl wants to fuck. Pretty much every rock star of the 20th century was DYEL yet could fuck any girl they wanted.
>Now you could say "they're attractive because they have status", but no woman fantasizes about chubby guys, even if they're rich and famous. Being fat negates any other positive trait you might have.
wtf are you talking about. Plenty of actors are chubby, especially over 50 and get young girls all the time. Rockstars are often very thin yes, that has nothing to do with why they get girls, it is status. I mean there are different levels of dadbod.
Look I'm sick of this shit and am ending our conversation here. The point is that girls do not want skinny guys most of the time but often like chubby ones. You can ignore it or invent your own reality to suit whatever motivations you are trying to create for yourself to lose weight. Either way I am done here, I'm not going to entertain your trolling any longer.
There's a difference between the "Skinny" women like, usually with lean with toned muscles, AND Auschwitz mode skinny
I thought his tattoo was a watermark at first
>Who the fuck is EBK?
LOL
Leanness.
10 lbs of muscle in fat body look worse than 1 lbs of muscle on a skinny body
I only started getting serious attention from women after I gained about eighty pounds while bulking. I went from an extremely lean slightly muscular kid at 130ish pounds to quite strong and big but chubby and over 200 pounds. But honestly when I had abs no one cared. Girls kept telling me they like my "dad bod". So take from that what you will.
Reddit moment
bro you already know the answer, why did you even make this thread?
ive been muscle/strong fat and never felt as good as when I lost the chub ,
>being lean makes you look dyel!!
that's why you wear tight shirts
That's just pure body dysmorphia. People CAN notice if you hit the gym even if you wear average clothing.
Getting big while having clear muscle definition is the goal. But you have a weight zone that you are not allowed to cross otherwise you'll get fat. For me at 5'10, getting over 185-195 lbs is not reccomended unless you're already lean and muscular at that weight. Still got way heavier often times and have been over 200 lbs since two years lol. Right now at 215 and I still have a gut. Getting a gut as a Bodybuilder is a joke and if I manage to get down to 185 I swear I will recomp and just maintain that weight for the next year or two.
215 pound it was easier talking to girls but harder to close.
180 pound lean, vascular arms and abs its harder to talk to girls but easier to get sex from them.
I'm kind of conflicted as to why. Do they think I'm some sort of fuckboi at around 10%bf?
that image is literal lifefuel
Face.
face severely improves with leanness though
Far right is easily the most attractive male physique, so leaness
Height, dick size, and facial symmetry
Getting ripped is cope for ugly, small-dicked manlets tbh
Not being obese > muscle definition >leanness > sheer size but the reality is a tall dyel fatass with a dad bod, symmetric face and 8" cock will be more attractive to women than the most swole of small-dicked ugly manlet bodybuilders
Muscles represent strength.
Leanness represents discipline.
You need both to reach the arrow
Why the fuck do you keep making the same fucking thread??
Get over it already gay.
Depends on if you're trying to attract a woman or a man
Like all things, you need a balance between them.
Balance is the key to aesthetics.