What "IF" you are actually placing your faith in the wrong team and that going vegetarian did dramatically improve your health? purely hypothetically what if?
What "IF" you are actually placing your faith in the wrong team and that going vegetarian did dramatically improve your health?
both sides of the same retarded coin. just eat a balanced diet of both you fuckin retards
I'm not a strict vegetarian, but I mostly eat like one (I only eat meat or dairy once a week) and it's given me ridiculously easy weight loss on a high carb low-fat diet. On the other hand, I've known enough keto people and while they all lost weight initially they gained it all back with interest and health problems. Tumors, heart problems, and a general look of sweating bacon grease from the center of their forehead.
Only idiot NPCs use the word "balanced" when talking about diet. There is no actual agreement about what that even means. The western diet without any junkfood is traditionally considered to be a "balanced" diet and it will take decades off your life. I've also never seen a single person talk about a "balanced" diet that actually manages to eat only unprocessed food. They're all eating absolute trash while they shit-talk your effective diet.
you're getting triggered over a word, it's making you look like a fool
an even proportion of both meat and plants, is that easier to process?
>Only idiot NPCs use the word "balanced" when talking about diet.
Except that is wrong you stupid fucking idiot.
>The western diet without any junkfood is traditionally considered to be a "balanced" diet and it will take decades off your life.
If the food took decades of people's life in the western world they would lose at least 2 decades of their life and the expected living age in the western world is around 80 years. Your estimation would put them down to at least 60 years life expectancy.
>They're all eating absolute trash while they shit-talk your effective diet.
Neither vegan nor carnivore is effective you dumass
>Only idiot NPCs use the word "balanced" when talking about diet.
This is genuinely and unironically one of the DUMBEST things I have ever read on this board, and I include jafarposting in that. You should be put in prison for being so dumb.
>The western diet without any junkfood is traditionally considered to be a "balanced" diet and it will take decades off your life.
Compared to what?
Compared to the mexican diet.
6 liters of coke a day and nothing but corn, sugar and pork fat seems like a great diet strategy
No wonder Mexicans over 30 are all so fit and healthy looking
It really won't, a few years at most, as long as you're not doing something very stupid. If what those guys say would be remotely true, then you would find tons of people in their 80s, 90s, 100s that ate super well. What you actually find in those groups is often people who just ate moderately. 90s is quite an age. You would find that people who ate the best and had no cakes and stuff dying in their 90s. But as much as diet extremists wished it to be the case they simply don't, they enjoy cake and shit as much as anyone.
Unless they are unlucky or eat very stupidly literally everyone dies in their 80s and in the last decade of their lives they will have difficulties. There are exceptions sure but as a rule of thumb it works.
post body
FPBP
I eat whatever I want, oy making sure I get my broteins and don't overdue calories.
Simple as.
the idea of a balanced diet being good for you is so retarded, that means half your diet is good and half of it is bad you retard
A balanced diet just means you don't eat tons of candy and junk food like an idiot, and not skimping out on your veggies. Learn to enjoy life with some moderation m8.
As I said, that is retarded. That is the bare minimum and if you believe that it's the ideal diet you are a lazy retard who lacks the cognitive ability to actually think.
Exactly this. Meat and plants are both good for you, but all meat or all plants is bad for you.
Actually, only all plants is bad for you
>What "IF" you are actually placing your faith in the wrong team and that going vegetarian did dramatically improve your health?
I would go vegetarian obviously, only retards pick "teams" over their own wellbeing
I would weigh it against all the other aspects of life and recalculate
don't be mad if I reach the same conclusion
I used to be a radical anti-vegan "bacon lmao" retard back when I was younger during the Epic Mealtime craze and all that. Then I took part of a challenge to go vegan for one month back in 2011. Didn't go back after that, literally all aspects of my health got better, both objective and subjective.
I'm so ashamed for the behavior I displayed before that, but it makes me not care whenever I see other people still acting like that. It's easier to hate than to make hard decisions.
was the vegan challenge also part of a youtube channel perchance
No, it was a girl I liked who didn't think I could do it.
I eat dairy every day
I eat eggs every day
I eat meat 3-4 times a week
You cannot stop me from enjoying food.
I uhhh, just don't concern myself with those issues and eat a varied diet of foods
neither has purity which i find disappointing
Veganism would still remain wholly unmoral so I wouldn't change anything besides adding more veggies to my diet.
I mean seriously bro, I'm not allowed to use the word "balanced" because you don't like how some other people used the term before? Get your head out of your own behind, if anyone's an NPC here it's you.
That's why I eat meat only every other day.
The chud discord demoralization crew really just can't help themselves but to post in these vegan threads
Go dilate somewhere else you pathetic failed males
>it has to be ONLY MEAT or ONLY NOT MEAT
kys
I was near (ovo-lacto) vegetarian - meat was an occasional treat - before I started lifting; once I did, within the first month I was craving flesh. So team veg gets kicked out.
Eat Yeggs u retards
Why all the samefagging?
Don't care.
Not eating the bugs.
Lol, there's unironically more bug derived products in non-vegan foods than vegan ones.
Where do you think red food dye comes from? Are you aware cuts of meat at most supermarkets are dyed red?
Oh no I've been eating cockroaches this whole time!? Thank you. I'm on my way to go buy some quorn right now.
>Are you aware cuts of meat at most supermarkets are dyed red?
Haven't heard that shit since middle school. What comes next, the antiemetic in McDonald's buns?
I'm mummytarian. Whatever mum makes, I eat.
I dont care what the health benefits are (there are none) I will never be vegan so fuck off, pedopox gay
>vegan
>faith
>FAITH
any more proof needed that veganism is a retarded religious cult for lunatics?
this thread is a good proof that anti-vegans are just as retarded as vegans.
because by now you'd have to be a retard not to avoid processed red meat unless you want to live shorter. and i bet noone hunts and most of IST couldn't even slaughter a cow, probably never even saw a cow or a pig get killed. the product delicious but that doesn't mean you should eat it, usually it's the opposite. you're out of touch with your body, seriously. just like hardcore vegans growing basedboobs. you'll grow rectal tumors, it's the keto equivalent, enjoy.
>middle ground fallacy
I could slaughter anything you like. The product is delicious, I should eat it very much because we have the stomach acid and the intestine ratio of a carnivorous species.
You're out of touch with your body if you forcefeed yourself some plant slop garbage not to kill beings that are on Earth for you to eat.
>rectal tumors
sure thing buddy.
The whole vegan ideology relies on comparing it to the standard Western diet and calling it a "meat-based" diet despite 80% of its calories coming from plants, albeit ultra processed ones. The trick is that ANY diet is better than the standard Western diet.
This does not mean going vegan makes you healthy. Hell, most vegan shit that's sold nowadays is highly processed, very calorie dense, filled with rancid seed oils and packed with flavorings to make it hyperpalatable.
80% of my calories come from meat, fish, dairy and eggs. The rest are lower kcal vegetables and legumes because I'm cutting. No processed shit. Never felt better.
Don't listen to the retards who tell you to dump butter or cream in your coffee though. Just cook with a normal amount of fat like a normal person.
Going meat-based makes fat loss so much easier because the high protein makes you feel extremely full.
I follow the Chad diet:
>Set a protons target
>Split remaining calories 50/50 between carbs/fats
>Eat processed shit like once a week
Sounds based, but do you have any recommendations for high-proton foods?
not him but
lean meat and poultry (5% fat ground beef, lean beef cuts, chicken/turkey breast)
lean fish (tuna, pollock, cod, sardines, mackerel etc)
whey (with water or skim milk)
0% fat quark
I believe in evolution so being vegetarian makes no logical sense
It’s not hard.
Eat salad, rice, beans, bananas, potatoes, and chicken most days.
Every week have some kind of fish or red meat for a meal.