I found a sub called /r/ManHands where dyel men post completely normal pictures of their hands and women are all going crazy with thirst in the comments
I saw a poster here a while back saying that IST (and men in general) focus too much on face, hair, and abs when only gay men are attracted to this. For women it's all about hands, forearms, upper back. How true is this?
The pic with those replies
wtf I mog this twinks veins. Women like this shit?
>IST calls me a gay chud for endorsing hand care and body hair reduction
>women gush over men with well-manicured hands and sparse body hair
Every time.
no no, you are a gay chud. you see it's not that he's well manicured, or hairless. it's leanness and vascularity. it implies strength, and competency.
It's all 3, but keep coping lmao
keep being a ghey ass bro, see what i care.
keep being disgusting I guess
>being disgusting means not shaving your hands and putting on nailpolish
it's ok to be a gay, just be one somewhere else
Let me guess, washing and moisturizing your feet isn't "hygiene" either, right?
>moisturizing your feet
lol, this is bait. wait wait..
>Let me guess, washing and moisturizing your mates peen after a handy isn't social "hygiene" either, right?
>he doesn't moisturize his feet
AHAHAHAHAHAHAA
YOU ARE REVOLTING moron
bro, gross.. my feet look nothing like that, and don't need moisturizer wtf is wrong with you?
Gross? What are you some kind of twink gay? Those are rough, masculine, calluses feet of a WORKING MAN
he work barefoot on the sharp slate stone quarry?
Looks like the kinda "burn" you'd get from chafing skin on plastic. Polyester socks?
No, you are a gay
Women have told me they love large, vascular, calloused hands - hands that look like you do lots of manual labor.
I have never heard a woman say she wants a man with "manicured hands" or "soft skin".
>women say something I don't want to hear
>"heh, women are so dumb they don't even know what they like"
>women say something I want to hear
>"heh, see, I knew women loved this thing about me"
delusional
Meanwhile, (you):
>women in real life express that they are attracted to men who look like men
>"heh, women are so dumb they don't even know what they like"
>some gay on IST tells you that women are actually attracted to men who have soft girl's hands and no body hair
>"heh, see, I knew women loved this thing about me"
I get it anon, it's hard to accept that you're disgusting and too lazy to put any effort into your hygiene, that's why I said, "keep coping", it was a recommendation; ignorance is bliss, after all.
Manicuring your nails and moisturizing your hands to keep them nice and soft is not "hygiene", it's being a gay
Try getting fingered by one of those hands. It can be sexy but it's not practical and they don't feel good on the body
he clearly has hair on his arm you fucking retard zoom in
Do you know what the word "sparse" means?
It's almost like I intentionally used that word instead of others, like "hairless" "smooth" or "clean-shaven"
Strongest Reddit user
my ex gf used to suck my fingers, when we broke up after a few months I forgot about it completely
then I came across an article about how women typically have hand fetish while men foot fetish and it reminded of that, honestly I never thought of it as a fetish
it was kinda hot ngl
women love the veins, they don't want fucking shrek hands/arms though
otherwise ogremaxxing would be the easiest way to get women
>ogremaxxing
how does that work? mudbaths and onion chugging?
That is secondary, the main thing is to acquire the relevant physique
When will you fucks take the /leanpill/. It's literally all they care about
so where are his forearms?
Ok but can no one on this board sort of see how this is actually kind of hot though
damn thats a twig arm.
so bitches want something resembling to a penis. got it. its the veins that matter, and the penis look.
women are so disgusting.
It's because the guy looks like money to women.
Posting on Reddit is a mental illness.
This is the hands of someone that doesn't do hard labor. Someone whose hand had only touched phones, computers and books.
god damn veins are literally everything. No one would give him a second look without those veins
>Sticky
>PSA: This is NOT an NSFW subreddit
Lol what a joke. Reminds me of r/flexibility posting about not guys not being creeps and DM'ing people when every other post is a stealth onlyfans ad.
Hand fetishists are attracted to hands? What a revelation anon im going to stop working out now!
I don't think it's a fetish, seems to be an extremely common thing. Unless you consider men being attracted to tits as a fetish as well.
You're a smart one aren't you.
You post like a gay
A fetish is an abnormal sexual interest, tits or hands arent abnormal because its a bodypart that reflects the physical value of a partner
ie. chubby baby hands = weak man who cant do physical labor, so its not really a fetish
You're such a dumb gay have a nice day
Oh God you're one of those gays
I have all of those things because I am genetically blessed and my gf finds them all attractive.
Shoulders
Traps
Forearms (especially with vascularity)
Abs
Arms
Chest
Ass
Back (apparently women have this thing where they find it attractive when your t shirt stretches between your scapula lol)
Face
Hair
All considered hot.
If you've got it all, women are attracted to it all. Simple as.
wow its almost like... women like signs of fitness in men.
is IST retarded? why would women not like vascular forearms when being muscular + lean is how you get vascular forearms and being muscular + lean is the epitome of fitness?
I found that strong jawline is the most consistent feature.
That's my observation not necessarily what women say
My ex told me most girls have fetishes for mens hands
at least the hopeless people that identify weird things that "women want" from tiktoks are positively identifying that the tiktokers are eligible women.
looking at reddit posts is just mental illness
But what actually makes hand attractive or not
it's literally just "can i tell that this man is probably fit from these hands/forearms". that's it. there is no hidden symbolic reason.
bitches dig natty vascular forearms.
>choke this
>choke that
why are women like this? so deranged.
Have sex
Touch grass
Have sex
Take meds
it's like the '' please sit on my face'' that show up at every single femalebodyposting in here, most ot them don't actually want to be choked by an ass. It's just a méme
Haha yeah haha lmao ... just one big meme haha ... I was just kidding gotcha ! .... haha
I've done it, it's pretty awkward with a girl sitting on your face. No other action, just her sitting. Bouncing up and down. Personally, I like a girl who can strangle me, punch me, or force me into it. But to just lay back, relax, and have her sit on your face gets old after the first 10 seconds.
That's like saying that sex is pretty awkward when it's just a penis in vagina with no other action.
>Personally, I like a girl who can strangle me, punch me, or force me into it.
How did you met women like this? Asking for a friend of course.
i literally want every woman to sit on my face
Uhh... In my experience girls actually like getting choked and I actually like when they sit on my face.
You know nothing about life
>most ot them don't actually want to be choked by an ass
7/10 of the women I meet under 35 I absolutely want to sit on my face. It'd be even higher if 50% of the population wasn't obese
TAKE YOUR FUCKING WAAAAAAAMEN THREADS TO /LULZ/ FUCK OFF ABOUT WHHHHINNNEING ABOUT WWWWAAAAAAAMEN
>Women
>Reddit
Really think you are getting high-value opinion from women that browse reddit anon?
I mean yeah you're not wrong
But I feel like attraction is mostly hardwired
It you're trying to find out what women find attractive on a primal level it doesn't really matter about their social status or life choices
I'm sure if you asked the highest value men in the country what they found physically attractive in women and then asked incels on /LULZ/ you'd get the same answers back
Biology is hardwired, I feel like the most important trait is the Adonis Index between shoulder/chest and waist - https://www.mdapp.co/shoulder-to-waist-ratio-calculator-439/
On this basis a facelet with the golden ratio is more likely to get laid than a facelet without, additionally men with stubble at about 2mm are more attractive than men without
Adonis index, face, arms and back, biceps, glutes and low body fat are the main attractors in my opinion, from there its social status and wealth, but women overlook the latter when looking for one-night stands
It's called frame bro. It's common knowledge by now, face > height > frame.
that is probably on a coomer subreddit which is literally closer to normal, average people than the usual SJW redditor
brb, gonna get a forearm pump b4 going to work bros.
>where dyel men post completely normal pictures of their hands and women are all going crazy
And homosexual men are all going crazy*
Bicep, forearms, hands, and chest. These are all women care about. Oh, and face, height, and dick.
a chocolate dick that ejaculates money.
Someone needs to post crops of transwomen hands there
You realize those are 95% gays making those comments correct?
You really think usernames like EvieKisses x_kitten_x and tswiftxcx belong to men?
Yes.
Oh, sweet summer child
When will you RETARDS learn???
Women DON'T want anyone who lifts more than 30kg, roidfags, powershitters or six packs. Anything more than ottermode is too much.
Ottermode necessitates a 6 pack you retarded fucking gay
Idiot
Actually, you said keep coping to me.. not the other guy calling you a gay..gay..
>women
trannies and fags you mean
Hahaha who's laughing now, wristcels?
Daily Reminder you can grow your wrists through heavy deadlifts
They're bones bro. You can grow your forearms but not your wrists.
Cope. Tendons grow
Ok when you gonna start
basic anathomy: tendons are parallel. Those are veins
can't tell shit from this and the image from OP is a dyel wristley anyway
limp-wristed gay lmao. Do you use those velvety hands to give your bf smooth handjobs?
Women find power, security, safety, and curiosity attractive. Strong handsome men are generally more of those because their attractiveness helps build confidence helps make them more attractive and so on in a self reinforcing cycle. But you can't narrow down what ALL women like with some singular thing. Just like dudes here like fat chicks or skinny chicks or chicks on tren. Girls have individual tastes and you can only gain access to their insights by being kind to them, and showing leadership skills and listening to their intentions (not necessarily their words)
tl;dr be a leader, be nice, and do not be weak.
Best answer and everyone seems to ignore it. Women like different things, but they like financial security most of all...
interesting graph. you can clearly see the difference at 25. After college money gets way more important (but also could be the narrowed social circle). Also visible 3 negative spikes at 29, 36, 45, almost exactly 30,35,45 - the critical years for late marriages. For that women lowers their standards apparently.
>be nice
sure, if you want to be her best friend
what is it with this "don't make her feel uncomfortable" and "be nice" advice bullshit currently being thrown around lately?
if she is into you, she will find excuses and cope with you making her feel bad
if she isn't into you or deep down the rabbit hole of "setting boundaries" and such, you will know as soon as she starts bitching
and the latter isn't worth pursuing anyways
>blabla bad boys and assholes
it is not about being whatever you think a "bad boy" is
it is about having integrity and the social status and confidence to be able to walk away or call women out to their face when they act like the human trash they are
think of men finding excuses for women coming late to dates
if she makes you wait without notice, you have to have the integrity and confidence to call her out on her behaviour and if she doesn't apologize on the spot and has a good explanation for why she didn't message you, you get up and fucking leave
not to impress her, but to respect yourself
will she feel bad, when you call her out on her behaviour? most likely
will she cope with counter aggression, passive aggressive behaviour or outright degrading you ala "how dare you?" or "who do you think you are?" happens quite often, been there recently
but if you play it down and act "nice" you are degrading yourself
doesn't matter, what she thinks of you in that case - you obviously think of yourself and your time being worthless
tl;dr: there is no reason to ever be "nice" (and this does not mean you have to be an asshole either)
its always these cucks giving bad advice like be nice then are surprised when their girl cheats on them. not being nice doesnt mean being rude.
Good advice bro
I try to keep all my interactions with women as IRL as possible because I fucking hate texting/apps, but sometimes it's unavoidable.
Do you have any advice for when women ghost you over text?
I know if a woman ghosts you it's over and there's no way to recover things, but I think it's such a disrespectful and pussy move.
How do you come out looking like a man with self respect in this situation though? Is it even possible?
I feel like anything you text to her after that point is going to make you look needy, and she's just going to ignore your text anyway.
But if you don't say anything then she gets away with disrespecting you.
I think maybe the only winning move is to say nothing over text but then confront them in person next time you see them.
Ignore her back and if she dares to text your again leave her on read and ghost her.
Have options so it doesn't matter if some ghost, it's all a numbers game.
I always thought of being "nice" as just being a decent polite person. Not a rude asshole, but not a pushover either.
>tfw 6.5 inch wrists
>I will never make a girl wet with my powerful massive hands
So I guess all I can do is a shit ton of forearm work, get lean and hope for the best?
You're still good if you have a nice jawline. You do have a jawline, right?
Yes but it's hidden because I'm a bulk
You don't need large hands or wrists for girls to like them
Have had plenty of them comment on mine and I have quite small wrists/hands
genetics or low bodyfat? If so bf%? 15?
Probably 12% ish in pic
Women are what we call in the literary business as unreliable narrators, they will tell you something, but not actually the whole thing, the truth, how they really feel, etc, etc.
That is the mystery of them, they are consumate liars, and buying into what they claim they find attractive, versus what they actually value and find attractive, is the greatest trap a man can fall into.
what woman find attractive is what is getting most attention. it constantly changes.
such wise words. preselection is a thing for these w*men. they want approval on anything before they proceed, even for things that they actually like.
I will never understand female sexuality
the good news is you don't need to. just get fit - genuinely fit. and then they will come. nature will make sure they find it attractive.
This, also if you lack confidence working out and building muscle will give you some.
my cock is thicker than my wrist
That's a blessing and a flex
I have like 5'5in wrists
its really not a a boast
5.5” is really thick for a dick and really thin for wrists
>humblebragging
>my cock is thicker than my wrist
Impressive
It's not. Face > body in terms of how much it contributes to overall attractiveness. 12% body fat is really good, sub 10% is another world.
For body it's pretty much waist:chest ratio.
Best body parts to emphasize are neck (as wide as your face) and forearms (simply because you see them more often).
I definitely don’t care abt a mans wrist size, but if he has hands that maintain that nice balance between looking elegant and strong then I’d find that attractive. When you think abt it hands are one of the most intimate parts of the body, they’re what you use to interact with the world around you.
>When you think abt it hands are one of the most intimate parts of the body, they’re what you use to interact with the world around you.
Women are so fucking retarded it's unbelievable
I just want to feel safe.
you live in the saffest age mankind has created so far you dumb bitch
Women like as many different and varied things as men do physically, it's up to the individual. It's a meme that they only like lanklets, every IST guy I know IRL that has a great body has an equally attractive girlfriend or has his pick of hot sluts to pump on apps. The only thing that seems to be universal is a preference for height, even when they're midgets.
Especially when they're midgets
The related subreddits put up by the mods is all literal homo shit. The audience for this is men.
Are redditors even human?
Women only care about personality. You lift to build your character, the looks are just a nice side effect
You're kidding yourself if you think aesthetics don't factor into it. Personality is more important, but the minute somewhat that's got both comes along you're dead in the water. In my experience women are far more critical and particular when it comes to looks than men who are usually prepared to settle somewhat
Haha
Go back.
>What do women actually find attractive in men
A good upper/lower body ratio (neck, shoulders, arms, upper back)
Strong, clean hands
A nice ass
Thick hair (preferably on your head/face)
A functional dick
b-but i thought i needed to be 250 lean for women to tell i lift
>What do women actually find attractive in men
Depends on whether they're on birth control or not.
what did he mean by this
Women prefer brta soýs when on the pill because their body is tricked into believing they are pregnant so they want dependable betas to hang around FOR DE BAAABY.
explains the love for feminine men, the love for asians in western 20yos is kinda crazy
Women want what I tell them to want.
>Greed
>Indifference
>Sense of urgency
>Doubt
>Fear of missing out
>Loss aversion
Those are the levers you can pull. I can't be fucked going into detail, so here's Alec Baldwin from Glengarry Glen Ross:
>guy can sell
>hurr durr you bad you can‘t sell
>call them dumb ass gays who can never sell, so they get motivated
>look at my watch bro, look at my car bro
>americans watching this getting their dick hards
No wonder blacked and cuck porn is so fucking popular there
>women want this!
>no, they want THIS
Have you idiots ever figured out that women are attracted to a large spectrum of things
Id say the only consistent thing is having a not weird personality
Id say height is also universal
low bodyfat and wide frame
The vantasner danger meridian was invented to asses danger to agents in the field.
To sum up the conclusions; the thirsty drink water, drunks are at bars, the closer you get to a major airport the higher the chance you will run into a fellow glowie.
Because the thirsty are bound to move towards whatever will quench them. Because drunks will naturally coalesce in places which keep them drunk. Because glowies will obviously move through higher traffic airports to obfuscate their business.
>tl;dr mongolian basket weavers like the mongolian basket weavers forum
>blessed with big hands with visible veins
>cursed with eczema so my hands looks like a warzone
Those are all homosexuals.
The hair on my knuckles is an inch long and curly.
I've been trying to Redpill people on this forever.
in your experience is it broadly reliable from what you have observed, or no?
I attract art hoes and depressive-types. They generally like my faggy soft small hands.
that's gotta be the gayest dude ever or just a woman's hand. the 2d4d ratio is insane
That isn't nice.
Is your mother a heavy drinker?
No, she was a religious health nut and hates alcohol
2d4d ratio is literally pseudo-science. The averages for men and women are different by like .04"
Women like height, attractive face, social popularity, wealth and finally personality, in that order. Classic Greek/European phenotype preferred in almost all physical attributes. Don't let women lie to you, they are the more shallow and selfish sex. The only thing fair about them is their faces.
Women like the three thiccs:
Thicc cock
Thicc arms
Thicc wallet
who cares what women want. thats what western society revolves around and we going down like crazy.
women fucking love "large square hands"
t. fanfic reader
Agree with one of the first guys who said it's a fetish. I met a girl who had a fetish for vascular hands and forearms and all her friends said it wasn't particularly attractive to them. I once met a girl that had a teeth fetish, she would literally masturbate to pictures of teeth, they didn't even have to be particularly nice teeth.
Height, high shoulder to waist ratio, facial symmetry (very important), full head of hair, haircut (social conditioning rather than innate), gymnast physique, open body language, raised chin and expression that shows intent
Women want to be choked, slapped, and dominated. I wish I was making that up or was just trying to make women look bad but it's true
the women i attract are usually daddy-issue types who dig my frame and facial hair. also attracts a lot of fags
A thing you have to realize is that 90% of these posters are gay men pretending to be women. Same goes for most sexual subreddits. Just a bunch of gays. 1 in 10 is MAYBE a woman
what women say ≠ what women do
don't ask them ask the guy who slays when it comes to questions.
One of the first compliments I get when meeting a new woman is that I have nice hands. Happens so often I lost count.
OP, the replies are not from women.
My forearms and eyes are the only thing a woman has ever complimented about me and my body is pretty ok looking. Other dudes think I look hot but those are all girls point out.