why tf is 5 ft 11.5 in and 62K a year set as the default. where is this study from? thats way above average in america. is that like the base levels you need to make it in the modern world?
that's the default starting character for the movie like lower-middle basically yeah - fresh grad, early twenties, because it is only a start after all
enough to rent in most cities and be comfortable enough
6'5" guys are weak. due to shit leverages. 6'3" is the maximum mogger height. 6' is the minimum. outside of this men are dysgenic especially on the upper limits
Same, although I sort of agree with the other guy. 6’5 guys usually aren’t big but when they are it’s like heroic mode. Above that tends to look a little freakish but a well proportioned 6’5 looks like a superhero compared to normal guys
Same, although I sort of agree with the other guy. 6’5 guys usually aren’t big but when they are it’s like heroic mode. Above that tends to look a little freakish but a well proportioned 6’5 looks like a superhero compared to normal guys
yes and all of them squat with 50kg at the gym without exception
>you can literally just be 6'5 NEET, and that is equivalent in womens eyes to a highly educated 5'6 pediatrician/FAANG software engineer/ successful business owner/good lawyer
The big joke is that mr. 6'6 probably is earning like 50-100k, so you need to add THAT to your number to actually compete with him. At 5'9, I need to earn ~200-250k just to compete.
Dawg I’m a manlet and I was getting bitches at 30k lmao. They would unironically fuck me on my blow up air mattress, you need to fix your brain or face
Ah yes, a white man would never even consider dating a 5’8” Asian woman.
Did they have a sample of like fifteen students at a bible college in a flat state or
"Not Feasible" was that it would never occur; the women wouldn't date them in the first place & that asking for more money is irrelevent, because the relationship isn't feasible.
> no man wants to date Asian women > no man wants to date a woman over 5’6”
The minimum height to be a model is 5’9” with most agencies and most men have an Asian woman preference lol
1 year ago
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>most men have an Asian woman preference lol
spend less time in online tranime incel circles
1 year ago
Anonymous
So you’re telling me that it’s “infeasible” for you to date a woman who’s 5’8”+
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so you're telling me you can't read? didn't say anything about that. also infeasible doesn't mean you wouldn't date it means no amount of whatever measure would make up the difference. ie you could be willing to date a 5/10 girl while simultaneously believing no amount of income in reason (saying she's a multi millionaire or something would be an irrelevant outlier in gen pop) would make up the difference to make her as desirable as a 10/10
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lol there’s no way. Height doesn’t even matter for men when it comes to women, and when it does, most of them prefer women who are 5’7”-5’9”.
1 year ago
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lol yes it does and no they do not. just stop posting you clearly have zero sense of what actual men like and no reading comprehension or critical thinking skills
1 year ago
Anonymous
What makes you think I’m not a man?
1 year ago
Anonymous
holy fuck are you ESL?
1 year ago
Anonymous
How could I not know what an actual man likes if i am one?
1 year ago
Anonymous
you're not claiming personal preference you're claiming what most men like. men and man are different words. you are a retard.
1 year ago
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you're not claiming personal preference you're claiming what most men like. men and man are different words. you are a retard.
It just means that the relationship never happened.
5’10 ugly neet and still have a gf.
It’s all luck
It's "to be as successful as", not "this is bare minimum requirements for a wet vagina to ever touch your erect dick"
It is interesting, because you could take all of this data and come up with a decent answer to "what does it take for average 5'9 me to compete with 6'2 Chad?" and the answer is:
https://i.imgur.com/OUEI9V2.png
>to women, a 6'6 man earning $0 annually is as desirable as 6'0 $60K, 5'9 $140K, 5'6 $235K, and 5'2 $330K
Grim.
6'2 = 30k less, 5'9 = 80k more == i need to earn 110k more than Mr. 6'2 just beong alive, and assuming he has normal job/60k income, i need to earn 170k just to compete with a 6'2 guy with typical job.
Then, what if he's a 10/10 slayer Chad?
https://i.imgur.com/LSTOrOt.png
Nope. They controlled for that too. 1/2
Assuming i'm 5/10 anon, I THEN need to earn ANOTHER 140k.
Assuming we're both white - for a 5/10 5'9 anon to compete with a 6'2 10/10 chad with a normal 60k income job, I need to earn $310,000+
ALSO, this was 2006 dollars, so add like 30-50% inflation to these numbers, so $400,000-$460,000 to compete with Chad in 2022, assuming things aren't even worse now.
checks out. If i were a girl, i'm not picking some average guy over Chad™ unless he is earning so much more that I can't ignore it, like 500K+. this is even assuming that i like the average guys personality. he still needs to make a lot of money for me to not pick chad anyway.
>black doctors and engineers
More like drug dealers and no-talent aspiring rappers, and the women themselves have Stockholm syndrome from the regular beatings or are addicted to the drugs they sell.
There literally are women who will sell their asses for an eighth of some potent weed, and it's decriminalized in my state. I'm not even talking crackwhores, just good girl university students who will gladly hop on a dick for some weed. Wish I knew about this a long time ago, would have saved myself a ton of grief and wasted effort.
this study is so outdated its no longer relevant. online dating has changed drastically since 2006. back in 06 it was mostly weirdos and boomer divorcees who'd bother with online dating, so the pool was limited and the boomers were after money especially. now theres a lot more young people with different motivations, looking for more casual flings and less stability etc
This wasn't a straight comparison though.
Study asked women to rate attractiveness based on height (written not visual models, so you get those weird breaks around 5'9, 6', 6'2 because those are numbers people recognize from media). They also asked to rate attractiveness based on income (again, numbers not the way other studies did it of showing different lifestyles associated with wealth like number of vacations, how many kids go private school, etc... basically a collection of materialist measurements of wealth instead of $X/year number that's hard to contextualize properly). Finally they just centered everything on their average parameters and subtracted.
At no point did a woman get asked whether she'd prefer jobless 6'6 man over 140k 5'9 man, which to me invalidates this nonsense even more than the fact that it is sociology.
This,everyone knows more money is better or that taller is better but you are going to get cucked by a guy with a better face always no matter if he is poor and/or short
I just read the study and was about to post something like this. Women were never asked this directly, they just rated the profiles and put what was correlated together.
It's also from a single dating service in 2006. Make of that what you will.
>At no point did a woman get asked whether she'd prefer jobless 6'6 man over 140k 5'9 man, which to me invalidates this nonsense even more than the fact that it is sociology. >SwoleShack: women don't understand what they actually want and certainly won't do what they claim >SwoleShack coping and seething: they should've asked the women a comparison they could virtue signal with! not tricked them into actual data!
sexual dimorphism is attractive to both sexes. height is dimorphic. short women are cute and feminine. taller women almost always have worse more masculine bodies, and worse faces.
You guys are unbelievably stupid. You know they didn't wheel these guys out in front of the women, right? Pic related. Also, >Tens of thousands of dollars to go up 2 inches in height >$20,000 extra a year can completely change your life situation >The 2 inches being far less perceptible to an (on average) much shorter woman >They are somehow equivalent
It's the output of multiple regression from profile ratings - nobody was ever asked this directly.
>median heights in our dating population
So self-reported stats that are obviously inflated
It's no wonder women say they want a 6'4'' mountain when every guy claims to be two inches taller
who gives a shit what women want?
9/10 of those women will end up with no man.
meanwhile i'm a 5'9'' manlet who only makes 60k USD a year with a big breasted skinny goth asian korean girlfriend with the tightest pussy i've ever felt who was a virgin when i met her.
most women are shit m8, you have to sift through the low quality females.
Which most women are low quality as men tend to find out after dating them. which is why every man is trying to move onto the next woman.
>Claim to not care about women >Women's opinions live in your head rent free
You people need to grow up already. You've been at this charade for 10+ years now.
This whole height shit is way overblown and mostly perpetuated by shallow tiktok dwelling zoomer whores and insecure incels. I'm out and about on pretty much a daily basis (It's part of my job) and I see plenty of manlets walking with decent looking women on their arms. Some of you really need to go outside and touch some grass.
Why haven't you guys learned that what women say and what they do aren't the same? If this was a meta analysis of marriages or something the fact is it's more likely that manlets are more likely to overcompensate with income.
sure, but that's like talking about how much a woman is worth based on her ass and tit size
Just because she wants something, doesnt mean shes hot enough to pull those guys.
femaledatingstrategy is full of bitter lonely 40 year olds that think they deserve the world
It just means that the relationship never happened.
[...]
It's "to be as successful as", not "this is bare minimum requirements for a wet vagina to ever touch your erect dick"
It is interesting, because you could take all of this data and come up with a decent answer to "what does it take for average 5'9 me to compete with 6'2 Chad?" and the answer is:
[...]
6'2 = 30k less, 5'9 = 80k more == i need to earn 110k more than Mr. 6'2 just beong alive, and assuming he has normal job/60k income, i need to earn 170k just to compete with a 6'2 guy with typical job.
Then, what if he's a 10/10 slayer Chad?
[...] Assuming i'm 5/10 anon, I THEN need to earn ANOTHER 140k.
Assuming we're both white - for a 5/10 5'9 anon to compete with a 6'2 10/10 chad with a normal 60k income job, I need to earn $310,000+
ALSO, this was 2006 dollars, so add like 30-50% inflation to these numbers, so $400,000-$460,000 to compete with Chad in 2022, assuming things aren't even worse now.
Done.
>average guy needs to earn 500 THOUSAND to compete with 10/10 who earns nothing
It's over.
Am I reading this right? So women are kind of blasé about even the best looking guys while if a man sees a top 5% woman they absolutely lose it?
You have it backwards. Women cream themselves over 10/10 while men rate women in normal linear way.
Damn that is a huge jump. I guess on the plus side is top tier guys seem to be pretty rare these days since everyone is getting fat (at least in the US)
Yes and to a woman a man who inherited 2 million dollars from his father is worth more than most poor men. Who cares? Some people are fortunate and become exceptional with little effort. That’s just how life works.
I make 150k per year and I'm a virgin with no interested women in sight
Damn, you must be like 3 feet tall
I’m broke and did quite well for myself with women all my life
6’0
if you gold digging bitches then you need to join sugar daddy websites
Why god was I born to be 5'6. Just 4 inches more and my life would have been normal
why tf is 5 ft 11.5 in and 62K a year set as the default. where is this study from? thats way above average in america. is that like the base levels you need to make it in the modern world?
that's the default starting character for the movie like lower-middle basically yeah - fresh grad, early twenties, because it is only a start after all
enough to rent in most cities and be comfortable enough
>a 5'9 """"man""""
>a 5'6 """"man""""
>a 5'2 """"man""""
this, if you're under 6'1 you're a manlet
>t. 6'1 giga coper
Anything below 6'5 is instantly sissy tier
6'5" guys are weak. due to shit leverages. 6'3" is the maximum mogger height. 6' is the minimum. outside of this men are dysgenic especially on the upper limits
have you ever been around 6'5" dudes? i'd definitely take those extra inches, can still have a great frame
t. 6'3"
Same, although I sort of agree with the other guy. 6’5 guys usually aren’t big but when they are it’s like heroic mode. Above that tends to look a little freakish but a well proportioned 6’5 looks like a superhero compared to normal guys
yes and all of them squat with 50kg at the gym without exception
could've not used the retard units -.-
Get off the fucking internet, no one cares, this is self defeating incel speak
Even if heights a deal breaker, who would want anyone that superficial
> who would want anyone that superficial
we want women because we're not gay so we're kind of stuck with that
>5'8 needs to earn $100,000 more than 5'10
>you can literally just be 6'5 NEET, and that is equivalent in womens eyes to a highly educated 5'6 pediatrician/FAANG software engineer/ successful business owner/good lawyer
It's over.
The big joke is that mr. 6'6 probably is earning like 50-100k, so you need to add THAT to your number to actually compete with him. At 5'9, I need to earn ~200-250k just to compete.
Women used to pick me up in their vehicles for tinder dates. I never paid for their meals we paid for our own meals.
6'7" guy.
Also my parents were too poor to put me in hockey. I'd probably be rich as fuck right now!
Theres 6'2 lanklets posting here that have never touched a woman
>6'2 lanklet who's never been with a woman
Hey that's me
6'2" is just normie tall guy. it's not a circus specimen that gets special treatment. you need to be over 2meters tall to get that height halo effect
If you think women have the spatial reasoning to tell the difference between 5'8 and 5'10...
>just be taller than them, they're stupid animals
the point is the statistics show what the reality is
Why is there that huge gap between 5'8 to 5'10? Is this the official manlet cutoff?
5'9" is the actual average. Being "below average", even by a very small amount, is a much harder sell.
>5’10
>110k
I’m so close to making it
I'm 6'2" making 125k a year and I still don't get bitches.
ugly personality and/or face
Baby faced and extremely introverted so yeah
Dawg I’m a manlet and I was getting bitches at 30k lmao. They would unironically fuck me on my blow up air mattress, you need to fix your brain or face
Post the one if the man is Asian
Ethnicity
>asian women let white guys earn 24K less than asian me and are the only group o do this with any group of men
>white women need 200k from a black man and 300k from an asian man to be equivalent to a white man with 60k
surely you didn't need a study to observe the nature of your women
wtf is all this “not feasible” shit
they think that women literally cant make enough money to make up the difference
Ah yes, a white man would never even consider dating a 5’8” Asian woman.
Did they have a sample of like fifteen students at a bible college in a flat state or
"Not Feasible" was that it would never occur; the women wouldn't date them in the first place & that asking for more money is irrelevent, because the relationship isn't feasible.
Yeah that means that this study is 100% invalid.
Lol, what? No it doesn't. Stop seething, manlet.
> no man wants to date Asian women
> no man wants to date a woman over 5’6”
The minimum height to be a model is 5’9” with most agencies and most men have an Asian woman preference lol
>most men have an Asian woman preference lol
spend less time in online tranime incel circles
So you’re telling me that it’s “infeasible” for you to date a woman who’s 5’8”+
so you're telling me you can't read? didn't say anything about that. also infeasible doesn't mean you wouldn't date it means no amount of whatever measure would make up the difference. ie you could be willing to date a 5/10 girl while simultaneously believing no amount of income in reason (saying she's a multi millionaire or something would be an irrelevant outlier in gen pop) would make up the difference to make her as desirable as a 10/10
lol there’s no way. Height doesn’t even matter for men when it comes to women, and when it does, most of them prefer women who are 5’7”-5’9”.
lol yes it does and no they do not. just stop posting you clearly have zero sense of what actual men like and no reading comprehension or critical thinking skills
What makes you think I’m not a man?
holy fuck are you ESL?
How could I not know what an actual man likes if i am one?
you're not claiming personal preference you're claiming what most men like. men and man are different words. you are a retard.
seeeeethe
It just means that the relationship never happened.
It's "to be as successful as", not "this is bare minimum requirements for a wet vagina to ever touch your erect dick"
It is interesting, because you could take all of this data and come up with a decent answer to "what does it take for average 5'9 me to compete with 6'2 Chad?" and the answer is:
6'2 = 30k less, 5'9 = 80k more == i need to earn 110k more than Mr. 6'2 just beong alive, and assuming he has normal job/60k income, i need to earn 170k just to compete with a 6'2 guy with typical job.
Then, what if he's a 10/10 slayer Chad?
Assuming i'm 5/10 anon, I THEN need to earn ANOTHER 140k.
Assuming we're both white - for a 5/10 5'9 anon to compete with a 6'2 10/10 chad with a normal 60k income job, I need to earn $310,000+
ALSO, this was 2006 dollars, so add like 30-50% inflation to these numbers, so $400,000-$460,000 to compete with Chad in 2022, assuming things aren't even worse now.
Done.
checks out. If i were a girl, i'm not picking some average guy over Chad™ unless he is earning so much more that I can't ignore it, like 500K+. this is even assuming that i like the average guys personality. he still needs to make a lot of money for me to not pick chad anyway.
>A nagger needs to make $154k extra in order to get a White woman
oh so all those trashy mudsharks are really running with black doctors and engineers
>black doctors and engineers
More like drug dealers and no-talent aspiring rappers, and the women themselves have Stockholm syndrome from the regular beatings or are addicted to the drugs they sell.
There literally are women who will sell their asses for an eighth of some potent weed, and it's decriminalized in my state. I'm not even talking crackwhores, just good girl university students who will gladly hop on a dick for some weed. Wish I knew about this a long time ago, would have saved myself a ton of grief and wasted effort.
>source: my ass
https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=895442
It contains even more, like ethnicity and facial attractiveness.
>online dating
>2006
would be interested in seeing an updated study and how things have changed (presumably even more extreme)
this study is so outdated its no longer relevant. online dating has changed drastically since 2006. back in 06 it was mostly weirdos and boomer divorcees who'd bother with online dating, so the pool was limited and the boomers were after money especially. now theres a lot more young people with different motivations, looking for more casual flings and less stability etc
6'6 is rare enough already, their income is probably skewed by pro athletes and shit
This wasn't a straight comparison though.
Study asked women to rate attractiveness based on height (written not visual models, so you get those weird breaks around 5'9, 6', 6'2 because those are numbers people recognize from media). They also asked to rate attractiveness based on income (again, numbers not the way other studies did it of showing different lifestyles associated with wealth like number of vacations, how many kids go private school, etc... basically a collection of materialist measurements of wealth instead of $X/year number that's hard to contextualize properly). Finally they just centered everything on their average parameters and subtracted.
At no point did a woman get asked whether she'd prefer jobless 6'6 man over 140k 5'9 man, which to me invalidates this nonsense even more than the fact that it is sociology.
This,everyone knows more money is better or that taller is better but you are going to get cucked by a guy with a better face always no matter if he is poor and/or short
I just read the study and was about to post something like this. Women were never asked this directly, they just rated the profiles and put what was correlated together.
It's also from a single dating service in 2006. Make of that what you will.
>At no point did a woman get asked whether she'd prefer jobless 6'6 man over 140k 5'9 man, which to me invalidates this nonsense even more than the fact that it is sociology.
>SwoleShack: women don't understand what they actually want and certainly won't do what they claim
>SwoleShack coping and seething: they should've asked the women a comparison they could virtue signal with! not tricked them into actual data!
this jfl. it's like everyone starts dropping IQ points just to cope and deflect
>6'4
>make $150k a year
>7in dick
>bench 300
>aspergers
Body count is 10 tho
False,face,end of discussion.
Nope. They controlled for that too. 1/2
>average anon needs to be a doctor to compete with unemployed Chad
>6’3
>60k
>virgin
Kek can’t have it all
Would like to see the responses by weight/BMI.
5’10 ugly neet and still have a gf.
It’s all luck
Where do I meet loser women who are just as pathetic as I am?
I’m 6’4, make 400k a year. I’ve fucked 3 dozen college girls off seeking because I’m too lazy to cold approach at bars.
why men like womenlets so much? that's really depressing
sexual dimorphism is attractive to both sexes. height is dimorphic. short women are cute and feminine. taller women almost always have worse more masculine bodies, and worse faces.
You guys are unbelievably stupid. You know they didn't wheel these guys out in front of the women, right? Pic related. Also,
>Tens of thousands of dollars to go up 2 inches in height
>$20,000 extra a year can completely change your life situation
>The 2 inches being far less perceptible to an (on average) much shorter woman
>They are somehow equivalent
It's the output of multiple regression from profile ratings - nobody was ever asked this directly.
>coping
k
Just stop, man. Accept reality. We didn't make it. It's over. We will never be as successful as Chad if we don't earn far more than him.
You can do that. I won't.
Cope and seethe, homosexual.
>median heights in our dating population
So self-reported stats that are obviously inflated
It's no wonder women say they want a 6'4'' mountain when every guy claims to be two inches taller
>it's another israelitemerican numbers to undermine men
wake up, sheeps.
It’s not feasible for over 5’8” to make enough money to be considered attractive.
who gives a shit what women want?
9/10 of those women will end up with no man.
meanwhile i'm a 5'9'' manlet who only makes 60k USD a year with a big breasted skinny goth asian korean girlfriend with the tightest pussy i've ever felt who was a virgin when i met her.
most women are shit m8, you have to sift through the low quality females.
Which most women are low quality as men tend to find out after dating them. which is why every man is trying to move onto the next woman.
>Claim to not care about women
>Women's opinions live in your head rent free
You people need to grow up already. You've been at this charade for 10+ years now.
unfortunately for us women are liberated and therefore if we don't want to be incels like you we need to care or at least pretend to care
This whole height shit is way overblown and mostly perpetuated by shallow tiktok dwelling zoomer whores and insecure incels. I'm out and about on pretty much a daily basis (It's part of my job) and I see plenty of manlets walking with decent looking women on their arms. Some of you really need to go outside and touch some grass.
Cope.
>.
>study from 2006 when zoomers were barely alive
yeah women caring about height is just new tiktok bs
>6'0"
>182k
feels good, brehs
Gay thread made to demoralize people. How about you go workout. Rolling
Why haven't you guys learned that what women say and what they do aren't the same? If this was a meta analysis of marriages or something the fact is it's more likely that manlets are more likely to overcompensate with income.
sure, but that's like talking about how much a woman is worth based on her ass and tit size
Just because she wants something, doesnt mean shes hot enough to pull those guys.
femaledatingstrategy is full of bitter lonely 40 year olds that think they deserve the world
Who cares what roasties think
>women value Chad far higher than even a Brad
>men value women rationally
damn i'm surprised the bottom half isn't even lower though
Am I reading this right? So women are kind of blasé about even the best looking guys while if a man sees a top 5% woman they absolutely lose it?
>10/10 gets 3x as much as a 9/10
>average guy needs to earn 500 THOUSAND to compete with 10/10 who earns nothing
It's over.
You have it backwards. Women cream themselves over 10/10 while men rate women in normal linear way.
Damn that is a huge jump. I guess on the plus side is top tier guys seem to be pretty rare these days since everyone is getting fat (at least in the US)
brutal blackpill right here
brutal blackpill. watch SwoleShack cope
Yes and to a woman a man who inherited 2 million dollars from his father is worth more than most poor men. Who cares? Some people are fortunate and become exceptional with little effort. That’s just how life works.
>Tfw 6'1", 6 figures