i fuckin hate people like this. they put out one sentence statements about something and expect people to write paragraph or multi paragraph refutations instead of telling him.
>fuck off homosexual seed oils are shit.
like your declarative statement is somehow invalid and they're somehow correct because their one sentence wasn't refuted their expectations of "thought"
why do these people don't even bother faking looking healthy? I mean jesus if you wanna sell whatever snake oil or bullshit ideology you have, put some fucking effort into marketing it
Don't care + didn't ask + L + Ratio + basedjak + beta + cringe + stfu + cope + seethe + ok boomer + incel + virgin + Karen + clown + you are not just a clown, you are the entire circus + gay + nah this ain't it + do better + check your privilege + pronouns in bio + anime pfp + the cognitive dissonance is real with this one + small dick energy + lol copium + snowflake + those tears taste delicious + Lisa Simpson meme template saying that your opinion is wrong + wojak meme in which I'm the chad + average your opinion fan vs average my opinion enjoyer + random k-pop fancam + cry more + how's your wife's boyfriend doing + Cheetos breath + Intelligence 0 + r/whooooosh + r/downvotedtooblivion + blocked and reported + yo Momma so fat + I fucked your mom last night + what zero pussy does to a mf + Jesse what the fuck are you talking about + holy shit go touch some grass + cry about it + get triggered
>red meat is unhealthy
healthy/unhealthy is a shit duality that doesn't work for specific foods >plant nutrients are bioavailable
yes but how bioavailable, it's not an all or nothing category
Why would evolution create a species that could never attain a species appropriate diet until hundreds of thousands of year into the future when companies are finally able to create plant based resist capitalism edible cubes? It's not logical unless evolution is wrong.
>Why would evolution create a species that could never attain a species appropriate diet until hundreds of thousands of year into the future when companies are finally able to create plant based resist capitalism edible cubes? It's not logical unless evolution is wrong.
Evolution doesn’t care how long you live. After your peak reproductive ages you are worthless
There's no peak for men in that case. Even men into very mature ages can still impregnate women. It's women who suddenly loose much of their fertility as soon as they hit 27
But inappropriate food leads to a weak infertile person. Why would evolution not give us the gut enzymes or teeth to process grass so we can raise happy healthy babies from the start? Thank Fauci for imported Spirulina capsules.
>Evolution doesn’t care how long you live
Why not? People who live longer can take care of their children for longer and acquire more resources
Then longevity is selected for
>Then longevity is selected for
That is true, but only to a certain extent. In any case there is no reason to think the ancestral diet is the one that is optimal for longevity.
>In any case there is no reason to think the ancestral diet is the one that is optimal for longevity.
There is. Ancestral diet (whatever it is, probably varies a lot depending on your genetics) is the one where our organism as is spent the most time consuming, so logically it's the most likely one for us to be adapted toward.
>Then longevity is selected for
When you choose a partner you can't tell how long they will live.
There is no way to select for it
>When you choose a partner you can't tell how long they will live.
Why does it matter? Not talking about sexual selection here.
If people who had longevity were more succesful overall than people with less longevity, it would be selected for
>logically it's the most likely one for us to be adapted toward.
That doesn’t follow.
1 year ago
Anonymous
So you're saying, it doesn't matter that x population of humans ate y diet for thousands of years. It would have no impact on how adapted they are to the diet?
This makes no sense. We can see in dogs organisms quickly adapt to diet, compared to wolves dogs can eat way more plant matter because of how they were fed by humans.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>It would have no impact on how adapted they are to the diet
I’m saying it wouldn’t by necessity be the best for longevity.
>If people who had longevity were more succesful overall than people with less longevity, it would be selected for
How?
There is no method for someone who lives longer to pass on those genes any more than someone of average lifespan.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Yes there is. There's probably multiple ways but let me think of a couple here
Example 1:
Person 1 Has 4 children and lives to 50 years old in good health and dies at 60. He cared for his children for a long time assisting them and all 4 of them passed on his genes.
Person 2 Also has 4 children but his health started to decline at 30 and he died at 40. His children had less support from his parent and only 2 of them passed on their genes.
Longevity selected for.
>Example 2
Male lives up to 70 and has multilple children throughout his 40s, 50s and 60s. Someone who died in his 40 had less chances to pass on genes. Longevity selected for.
It can seem far fatched but many very successful males did exactly this, having children in their old age with younger women.
>It would have no impact on how adapted they are to the diet
I’m saying it wouldn’t by necessity be the best for longevity.
Ok, but how is it not logical that the diet the organism is most adapted towards would be the most likely one to be optimal for health
1 year ago
Anonymous
>Ok, but how is it not logical that the diet the organism is most adapted towards would be the most likely one to be optimal for health
As previously stated, natural selection doesn’t care how long you live. Maybe fatty meat was the best source of calories to get you to reproductive ages. But that doesn’t mean it will help you to live past 60
1 year ago
Anonymous
>As previously stated, natural selection doesn’t care how long you live
I just made arguments against that.
Anyways so you're arguing here that a diet is ideal for short term health isn't necessarily the best for longevity? I guess it's possible but I don't see how or why it would be the case, as if meat is some type of steroid
Objectively wrong as Organisms that live past their reproductive age can still support their offspring (children/grand-children) thus still increasing their fitness
Where do edible plants naturally grow in vast uniform monocrops that would allow for say a hunter gatherer tribe of 40-60 individuals to sustain themselves indefinitely on those calories alone? Science has betrayed us dear comrade.
Why does he say dead lifts are safe? That's actually true.
>he doesn't know
>"unpack"
>"icky'
>onions profile pic
>wrong about every single point
Has to be a troll
Na that's how these people actually are
i fuckin hate people like this. they put out one sentence statements about something and expect people to write paragraph or multi paragraph refutations instead of telling him.
>fuck off homosexual seed oils are shit.
like your declarative statement is somehow invalid and they're somehow correct because their one sentence wasn't refuted their expectations of "thought"
He offers to debate people all the time. They always slink away.
yeah i bet he does lmao. what are you gonna suck his cock too next homosexual?
>no he he he does debate people.
>make 10 random claims with no backing
>surprised no one wants to in-depth debate them
Literal retard
See
Post his arguments then
>offer a substantive critique to my conjecture
how about you just walk out in front of a truck instead?
>vegnposting
I only eat the plant that grows in all fields.
sage?
Seed oils cause cancer
Red meat is healthy
Grains are shit tier
ApoB is the new LDL
Sure
No theyre not
Yes they do
>2 + 2 = 5
>grains benefit gut health
Nigga... the Chinese as a race got nerfed because of grains
why do these people don't even bother faking looking healthy? I mean jesus if you wanna sell whatever snake oil or bullshit ideology you have, put some fucking effort into marketing it
Don't care + didn't ask + L + Ratio + basedjak + beta + cringe + stfu + cope + seethe + ok boomer + incel + virgin + Karen + clown + you are not just a clown, you are the entire circus + gay + nah this ain't it + do better + check your privilege + pronouns in bio + anime pfp + the cognitive dissonance is real with this one + small dick energy + lol copium + snowflake + those tears taste delicious + Lisa Simpson meme template saying that your opinion is wrong + wojak meme in which I'm the chad + average your opinion fan vs average my opinion enjoyer + random k-pop fancam + cry more + how's your wife's boyfriend doing + Cheetos breath + Intelligence 0 + r/whooooosh + r/downvotedtooblivion + blocked and reported + yo Momma so fat + I fucked your mom last night + what zero pussy does to a mf + Jesse what the fuck are you talking about + holy shit go touch some grass + cry about it + get triggered
>red meat is unhealthy
healthy/unhealthy is a shit duality that doesn't work for specific foods
>plant nutrients are bioavailable
yes but how bioavailable, it's not an all or nothing category
Why would evolution create a species that could never attain a species appropriate diet until hundreds of thousands of year into the future when companies are finally able to create plant based resist capitalism edible cubes? It's not logical unless evolution is wrong.
>Why would evolution create a species that could never attain a species appropriate diet until hundreds of thousands of year into the future when companies are finally able to create plant based resist capitalism edible cubes? It's not logical unless evolution is wrong.
Evolution doesn’t care how long you live. After your peak reproductive ages you are worthless
Vegans arent fertile without modern supplements
There's no peak for men in that case. Even men into very mature ages can still impregnate women. It's women who suddenly loose much of their fertility as soon as they hit 27
you would not survive a month trying veganism in a natural setting (that is prior to agriculture)
But inappropriate food leads to a weak infertile person. Why would evolution not give us the gut enzymes or teeth to process grass so we can raise happy healthy babies from the start? Thank Fauci for imported Spirulina capsules.
>Evolution doesn’t care how long you live
Why not? People who live longer can take care of their children for longer and acquire more resources
Then longevity is selected for
>Then longevity is selected for
That is true, but only to a certain extent. In any case there is no reason to think the ancestral diet is the one that is optimal for longevity.
>In any case there is no reason to think the ancestral diet is the one that is optimal for longevity.
There is. Ancestral diet (whatever it is, probably varies a lot depending on your genetics) is the one where our organism as is spent the most time consuming, so logically it's the most likely one for us to be adapted toward.
>When you choose a partner you can't tell how long they will live.
Why does it matter? Not talking about sexual selection here.
If people who had longevity were more succesful overall than people with less longevity, it would be selected for
>logically it's the most likely one for us to be adapted toward.
That doesn’t follow.
So you're saying, it doesn't matter that x population of humans ate y diet for thousands of years. It would have no impact on how adapted they are to the diet?
This makes no sense. We can see in dogs organisms quickly adapt to diet, compared to wolves dogs can eat way more plant matter because of how they were fed by humans.
>It would have no impact on how adapted they are to the diet
I’m saying it wouldn’t by necessity be the best for longevity.
>If people who had longevity were more succesful overall than people with less longevity, it would be selected for
How?
There is no method for someone who lives longer to pass on those genes any more than someone of average lifespan.
Yes there is. There's probably multiple ways but let me think of a couple here
Example 1:
Person 1 Has 4 children and lives to 50 years old in good health and dies at 60. He cared for his children for a long time assisting them and all 4 of them passed on his genes.
Person 2 Also has 4 children but his health started to decline at 30 and he died at 40. His children had less support from his parent and only 2 of them passed on their genes.
Longevity selected for.
>Example 2
Male lives up to 70 and has multilple children throughout his 40s, 50s and 60s. Someone who died in his 40 had less chances to pass on genes. Longevity selected for.
It can seem far fatched but many very successful males did exactly this, having children in their old age with younger women.
Ok, but how is it not logical that the diet the organism is most adapted towards would be the most likely one to be optimal for health
>Ok, but how is it not logical that the diet the organism is most adapted towards would be the most likely one to be optimal for health
As previously stated, natural selection doesn’t care how long you live. Maybe fatty meat was the best source of calories to get you to reproductive ages. But that doesn’t mean it will help you to live past 60
>As previously stated, natural selection doesn’t care how long you live
I just made arguments against that.
Anyways so you're arguing here that a diet is ideal for short term health isn't necessarily the best for longevity? I guess it's possible but I don't see how or why it would be the case, as if meat is some type of steroid
>Then longevity is selected for
When you choose a partner you can't tell how long they will live.
There is no way to select for it
Evolution is the gradual unfolding of God's divine creation.
Objectively wrong as Organisms that live past their reproductive age can still support their offspring (children/grand-children) thus still increasing their fitness
I don’t discount that as a factor. But it’s a small one
nta but you must be some kind of massive retard to admit you're wrong but still claim to be correct. lmao kys you stupid fuck
No it isn’t for humans lmfao
We are a social species, the eldest lead
Plus humans ate nothing but meat for millions of years. Google it
>Plus humans ate nothing but meat for millions of years.
Bullshit
Yeah, plants weren't around until a few years ago.
Where do edible plants naturally grow in vast uniform monocrops that would allow for say a hunter gatherer tribe of 40-60 individuals to sustain themselves indefinitely on those calories alone? Science has betrayed us dear comrade.
post indigenous edible plants in your area. bonus points if you include how long they're in season.
lmfao which one of you is that
this is an elaborate troll isn't it?
post his body
isn't Apolipoprotein B just the same thing as LDL, unless you're being really pedantic
Is he prepared to defend his point of view in unarmed combat?
[citation needed]
Why would you post this thread again?
Got a lot of (you)'s the first time