If you can't tread water for 5 minutes without stopping you shouldn't be doing open water.
Learn how to tread or at least float before any swimming workout or starting training.
>If you can't tread water for 5 minutes without stopping you shouldn't be doing open water.
please allow these retards to drown in peace anon.
my country freaks out over people drowning in rip currents every year and then sets up some national programs to try and prevent it, even though all the people that drown are foreigners and don't actually benefit from these programs.
>ask questions
how come you don't have a gf, hollandbro?
with a body like that?
i'm almost thirty there aren't that many quality women left.
How hard is it to learn how to swim on your own in a municipal pool as a balding ex skinnyfat turned DYEL?
swimming comes naturally, just don't try to force it and don't start in water that's too deep for you to stand in.
>i'm almost thirty there aren't that many quality women left.
Iktf.
you also mentioned somewhere you're autistic, if I'm not mistaken (but aren't we all).
I'm officially diagnosed, went to retard school because the government demanded it, had to sit between literal schizos, adhd patients and non-verbal autists, 0/10 wouldn't recommend.
got so good at beating up retards at some point that I got hired as a bouncer but that didn't last long.
OP how do you swim in these murky waters without fear?
I have a mild irrational fear of these kind of waters, especially if its dark lakes with plants and shit in it like pic related.
I dont know if its a fear or some insects or spiky fish or some shit hiding in the water, because i have no fear of these individually, but it could be because I dont know what is lurking in the seaweed and plant mass.I also feel much more relaxed when i wear a wetsuit, have gloves/shoes, and when I'm not swimming alone.
Any suggestions?
Extraordinary physique btw
He is european. There isn't anything left that can kill you except once in a while when the water gets bad like this year there can form bacteria because of algea but when it gets this bad the water smells anyways
send them my way, I haven't been able to find them.
1 year ago
Anonymous
I'm sure if you joined some nature or plant growth enthusiasts whatever group or course there'd be some qt grills there.
1 year ago
Anonymous
I post my pictures in several groups, I'm not sure if you've got any experience with them but most of the women in them are the wine aunt type that post pictures of the endangered animals their cats kill.
1 year ago
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>groups
I'm talking actual hobby groups, or like some sort of botany course you pay for, not facebook.
https://i.imgur.com/iK2CMCl.png
here's my program.
That's it? Did you have a great base or something?
1 year ago
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my baseline is quite skinny.
OP how do you swim in these murky waters without fear?
I have a mild irrational fear of these kind of waters, especially if its dark lakes with plants and shit in it like pic related.
I dont know if its a fear or some insects or spiky fish or some shit hiding in the water, because i have no fear of these individually, but it could be because I dont know what is lurking in the seaweed and plant mass.I also feel much more relaxed when i wear a wetsuit, have gloves/shoes, and when I'm not swimming alone.
Any suggestions?
Extraordinary physique btw
you get used to it, I have issues swimming through the vegetation in the beginning of the year every year, the water isn't as murky as you think it is, I don't like swimming in water I can't see anything in either, I've got about 2 meters worth of vision while snorkeling.
>I also feel much more relaxed when i wear a wetsuit, have gloves/shoes, and when I'm not swimming alone.
this is normal, I have the same.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>that core
Skinny doesn't mean shit, you were already well on your way to current fizeek
1 year ago
Anonymous
I was barely 65kg in that picture, I'm 86~ or something now, my appetite was extremely shitty because the main issues I get from autism are gastrointestinal, I don't have any of the sensory problems.
1 year ago
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i have heard that people with long torso have more advantage in swimming, true ?
1 year ago
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yes, I also have long arms and big hands, there's several professional athletes that train in this lake and I can match them without formal training, dad almost went pro in swimming but back then the pools weren't heated and he hates cold water.
I know you were skinny, my point is being skinny alone doesn't give you a fucking 8pack. You obviously had a good and strong body already.
I've been working manual labor jobs since I was 15, already had decent development when I started lifting.
>hydrocotyle.
1 year ago
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>I've been working manual labor jobs since I was 15, already had decent development when I started lifting.
Yeah this is what did it, not your program tbqh
1 year ago
Anonymous
I didn't get bigger until I started training and eating more, I lift pretty heavy despite only doing four compounds.
>yes, I also have long arms and big hands, there's several professional athletes that train in this lake and I can match them without formal training, dad almost went pro in swimming but back then the pools weren't heated and he hates cold water.
hmm, kinda based
also do you post in SwoleShack or SwoleShack
I dump most of my garden pictures in the plant threads on SwoleShack regularly, they don't care much for alpines though, neither does SwoleShack so I stopped posting there years ago.
When you swim crawl, do you keep your fingers tightly together to make a big scoop, or do you keep the fingers rigid, but mildly separated and allow a little bit of water through?
fingers straight I suppose, it leaves slight gaps between your fingers, never really thought about it.
it's more so my palms, rather than my hands that are big, my fingers are pretty average.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>yes, I also have long arms and big hands, there's several professional athletes that train in this lake and I can match them without formal training, dad almost went pro in swimming but back then the pools weren't heated and he hates cold water.
hmm, kinda based
also do you post in SwoleShack or SwoleShack
1 year ago
Anonymous
When you swim crawl, do you keep your fingers tightly together to make a big scoop, or do you keep the fingers rigid, but mildly separated and allow a little bit of water through?
1 year ago
Anonymous
I know you were skinny, my point is being skinny alone doesn't give you a fucking 8pack. You obviously had a good and strong body already.
>If you can't tread water for 5 minutes without stopping you shouldn't be doing open water.
please allow these retards to drown in peace anon.
my country freaks out over people drowning in rip currents every year and then sets up some national programs to try and prevent it, even though all the people that drown are foreigners and don't actually benefit from these programs.
[...]
i'm almost thirty there aren't that many quality women left.
[...]
swimming comes naturally, just don't try to force it and don't start in water that's too deep for you to stand in.
Treading water without hands for that long is physically impossible for normal fit people with heavt bone structure. The whole "rotate your legs in a circle" is a giant meme. Literally only people with body fat light bone twinks and women can do it.
I know cause Ive tried it when i had to do a two minute test hands above water. I had to paddle my legs back and forth instead which burns a shit ton of energy and barely did the 2 minutes no hands. But moving legs in circles "egg beaters" didnt do shit
>"It's impossible dude trust me." >"No u."
Listen Tyrone, I know you're mad you didn't make lifeguard tryouts but please let us talk about swimming in peace.
Bet. Lets go to a river. I'll give you a 50 yard head start. I'd catch and drown your twink fembody. If you escape or fight me off you win a million dollars
1 year ago
Anonymous
>I'd catch and drown your twink fembody
Bro, you have no understanding of swimming. So-called twink fembody is ideal for swimming. You wouldnt catch anyone and would just drown left on your own after a few minutes at most, let alone if a good swimmer is actually dragging you to the bottom.
Bet. Lets go to a river. I'll give you a 50 yard head start. I'd catch and drown your twink fembody. If you escape or fight me off you win a million dollars
Dese niggaz playing tough while swimming in calm lakes and rivers.
Try swimming in a sea or an ocean while it has rough weather conditions pusses
1 year ago
Anonymous
Swimming out of a riptide isn't fun. Its easy to do but for a lot of people being dragged that far out from the shoreline can induce panic.
Swimming a perfect time is hard because there is a lot to sychronize, improve and learn, just swimming is easy. Learn how to feel good in the water by simply floating, then try use feet learn different styles like frog style and paddling style then learn how to use arms
>can't bilateral breath for shit >even my flutter kick is awfully imbalanced >slipped disk >elbow tendonitis in right arm that forces me to do an S pull to minimize resistance >about 20 lbs overweight
there's no way I can get ready for a 6km open swim in 5 months while cutting, right?
>>can't bilateral breath for shit
then don't do bilateral breath. breathing is all about rhythm. If you don't have the rhythm for it right now then don't do it. Later on you can still give it a try when you've found that you can control your breathing more and fit it to a rhythm that suits you. >>even my flutter kick is awfully imbalanced
Have you tried just kicking once per stroke like immersion swimmers do? Like I said before, if you manage to have a rhythm swimming works all naturally and is like walking
>can't bilateral breath for shit >even my flutter kick is awfully imbalanced >slipped disk >elbow tendonitis in right arm that forces me to do an S pull to minimize resistance >about 20 lbs overweight
there's no way I can get ready for a 6km open swim in 5 months while cutting, right?
I think you can manage that!
Its ok to breathe just unilaterally, especially during a race.
About your kick, do you need it? When I swim I barely use kicks. I usually jut kick once for every stroke. Maybe you could try that out? Like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NcXYN2IxOc
Hopefully the tendonitis will have receded some by the time of your race.
You didn't mention how far you can swim now, so can't comment on your readiness for a 6k, but i can say i managed to go from practicing about 2k to doing a 5.4k in less than 3 months, so there is always hope.
Also, some excellent swimmers are fat. Dont put yourself down just because you think you need to lose 20lbs.
Went swimming yesterday for the first time in years and it is a lot more difficult than I remember. Swimming in a lake from buoy to buoy freestyle and got freaked out because I started cramping. Doggypaddled back to where I could stand, meanwhile some 70 year old dude was just pumping laps next to me. Made me kinda jelly.
There were hot babes at the beach though so 10/10 would recommend.
Youtube.
Learn to do shoulder dislocates as an exercise so your shoulders are limber. Arm Haulers work too. Practice with the breaststroke to build up your shoulders if you cant pull yourself fully out of the water with each stroke to breathe.
Thanks, I'm just having trouble really getting the motions down and I feel like my timing for kicking/strokes is off.
I have access to a 25 yard pool to do laps and I'm trying to get the most out of swimming for cardio. I read that butterfly is the best for building muscle, but is it really that much better than other strokes?
All the strokes help build muscle. Except Combat side stroke, that shits relaxed.
For getting the kick down imagine as you pull yourself out of the water you are sliding up onto a pool deck and want to keep your legs straight. You can practice the dolphin kick first then get the stroke down. Or you can do the stroke without the kick and try to just pull your legs up out of the water. Eventually one way or the other your body will want to instinctively kick at the right time to keep your speed up.
First learn do dolphin kick. Then do armstrokes every x kicks. First have your head below the surface such that you have to stop after a few meters. Then try to breath while stroking. If you do armstrokes only every x kicks then arm placement will make a difference. Placing them stretched in front of you make it harder while placing them next to your hips is easier. I'd say once you get to two kicks per stroke you're pretty much in the zone and don't need to think about armplacement anymore because you're in a good flow. What you can also do is seperate your stroke from dolphine kicks like doing the strokes with flutter kicks or with breast stroke kicks such that you can concentrate more on the butterfly armstroke. Also use your core while dolphine kicking
Take big deep breath. Lie on back. Relax. if at any moment you feel your chest/hips sink, take a deep breath and push chest and hips on surface (similar to how you push your chest out right before doing a squat). Keep head surface level, eyes looking straight up with your ears partially submerged. Don’t tilt your head towards your chest. Keep taking deep breaths. That’s all you need to do to float. Key is in breathing and staying relaxed
Ok, the fucking frog kick in a breast stroke. When do you initiate it in relation to the arm stroke? How do you reload it? Do you kick out and in hard or more down?
arm stroke, frog kick, gliding, armstroke, ... Best way I've found is when you are breathing you load your kick such that your kick ends into your submerged gliding phase
probably indians or americans no point for them to learn how to swim since the water quality is so bad they instantly die or they're so fat they sink and drown.
If you can't tread water for 5 minutes without stopping you shouldn't be doing open water.
Learn how to tread or at least float before any swimming workout or starting training.
>If you can't tread water for 5 minutes without stopping you shouldn't be doing open water.
please allow these retards to drown in peace anon.
my country freaks out over people drowning in rip currents every year and then sets up some national programs to try and prevent it, even though all the people that drown are foreigners and don't actually benefit from these programs.
i'm almost thirty there aren't that many quality women left.
swimming comes naturally, just don't try to force it and don't start in water that's too deep for you to stand in.
>i'm almost thirty there aren't that many quality women left.
Iktf.
you also mentioned somewhere you're autistic, if I'm not mistaken (but aren't we all).
I'm officially diagnosed, went to retard school because the government demanded it, had to sit between literal schizos, adhd patients and non-verbal autists, 0/10 wouldn't recommend.
got so good at beating up retards at some point that I got hired as a bouncer but that didn't last long.
that sounds rough
nice pictures tho, keep up the good work
I get life long benefits because they think I'm retarded now so at least I got something out of it.
thanks to the dutch taxpayers.
at least you also work
I don't have to work if I don't want to, thanks wagies.
>underwater in my pond.
your pond? what do you mean, your pond?
do you have your own house?
pls tell me that isn't true
yes.
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
they won't let you have the subsidies that I benefit from unless you're a literal vegetable now so get to work wagie.
I'm already seething rn
OP how do you swim in these murky waters without fear?
I have a mild irrational fear of these kind of waters, especially if its dark lakes with plants and shit in it like pic related.
I dont know if its a fear or some insects or spiky fish or some shit hiding in the water, because i have no fear of these individually, but it could be because I dont know what is lurking in the seaweed and plant mass.I also feel much more relaxed when i wear a wetsuit, have gloves/shoes, and when I'm not swimming alone.
Any suggestions?
Extraordinary physique btw
He is european. There isn't anything left that can kill you except once in a while when the water gets bad like this year there can form bacteria because of algea but when it gets this bad the water smells anyways
>i'm almost thirty there aren't that many quality women left.
You're supposed to go for 18-25 year old chicks no matter how old you are dude.
doesn't change anything, I've yet to meet anyone in that age demographic that doesn't disgust me.
Please try autismo-dutchbro, you can find a qt, they exist.
send them my way, I haven't been able to find them.
I'm sure if you joined some nature or plant growth enthusiasts whatever group or course there'd be some qt grills there.
I post my pictures in several groups, I'm not sure if you've got any experience with them but most of the women in them are the wine aunt type that post pictures of the endangered animals their cats kill.
>groups
I'm talking actual hobby groups, or like some sort of botany course you pay for, not facebook.
That's it? Did you have a great base or something?
my baseline is quite skinny.
you get used to it, I have issues swimming through the vegetation in the beginning of the year every year, the water isn't as murky as you think it is, I don't like swimming in water I can't see anything in either, I've got about 2 meters worth of vision while snorkeling.
>I also feel much more relaxed when i wear a wetsuit, have gloves/shoes, and when I'm not swimming alone.
this is normal, I have the same.
>that core
Skinny doesn't mean shit, you were already well on your way to current fizeek
I was barely 65kg in that picture, I'm 86~ or something now, my appetite was extremely shitty because the main issues I get from autism are gastrointestinal, I don't have any of the sensory problems.
i have heard that people with long torso have more advantage in swimming, true ?
yes, I also have long arms and big hands, there's several professional athletes that train in this lake and I can match them without formal training, dad almost went pro in swimming but back then the pools weren't heated and he hates cold water.
I've been working manual labor jobs since I was 15, already had decent development when I started lifting.
>hydrocotyle.
>I've been working manual labor jobs since I was 15, already had decent development when I started lifting.
Yeah this is what did it, not your program tbqh
I didn't get bigger until I started training and eating more, I lift pretty heavy despite only doing four compounds.
I dump most of my garden pictures in the plant threads on SwoleShack regularly, they don't care much for alpines though, neither does SwoleShack so I stopped posting there years ago.
fingers straight I suppose, it leaves slight gaps between your fingers, never really thought about it.
it's more so my palms, rather than my hands that are big, my fingers are pretty average.
>yes, I also have long arms and big hands, there's several professional athletes that train in this lake and I can match them without formal training, dad almost went pro in swimming but back then the pools weren't heated and he hates cold water.
hmm, kinda based
also do you post in SwoleShack or SwoleShack
When you swim crawl, do you keep your fingers tightly together to make a big scoop, or do you keep the fingers rigid, but mildly separated and allow a little bit of water through?
I know you were skinny, my point is being skinny alone doesn't give you a fucking 8pack. You obviously had a good and strong body already.
Based thot denialist. I thought you were interesting before, but now I respect you.
Treading water without hands for that long is physically impossible for normal fit people with heavt bone structure. The whole "rotate your legs in a circle" is a giant meme. Literally only people with body fat light bone twinks and women can do it.
I know cause Ive tried it when i had to do a two minute test hands above water. I had to paddle my legs back and forth instead which burns a shit ton of energy and barely did the 2 minutes no hands. But moving legs in circles "egg beaters" didnt do shit
>I didn't do it right so it doesn't work
NGMI also post hand.
Post body. I could drown you
>"It's impossible dude trust me."
>"No u."
Listen Tyrone, I know you're mad you didn't make lifeguard tryouts but please let us talk about swimming in peace.
Bet. Lets go to a river. I'll give you a 50 yard head start. I'd catch and drown your twink fembody. If you escape or fight me off you win a million dollars
>I'd catch and drown your twink fembody
Bro, you have no understanding of swimming. So-called twink fembody is ideal for swimming. You wouldnt catch anyone and would just drown left on your own after a few minutes at most, let alone if a good swimmer is actually dragging you to the bottom.
Dese niggaz playing tough while swimming in calm lakes and rivers.
Try swimming in a sea or an ocean while it has rough weather conditions pusses
Swimming out of a riptide isn't fun. Its easy to do but for a lot of people being dragged that far out from the shoreline can induce panic.
>fit people with heavy bone structure.
I prefer floating
urgh... can you post the dame pic with your big cock out?
based floatchad
i do the same at local river after long workout
are you THE giddy? the israeli kid who debtmaxxed to buy 30k worth of guns?
the one and only
samefag
>ask questions
how come you don't have a gf, hollandbro?
with a body like that?
How hard is it to learn how to swim on your own in a municipal pool as a balding ex skinnyfat turned DYEL?
Swimming a perfect time is hard because there is a lot to sychronize, improve and learn, just swimming is easy. Learn how to feel good in the water by simply floating, then try use feet learn different styles like frog style and paddling style then learn how to use arms
>>can't bilateral breath for shit
then don't do bilateral breath. breathing is all about rhythm. If you don't have the rhythm for it right now then don't do it. Later on you can still give it a try when you've found that you can control your breathing more and fit it to a rhythm that suits you.
>>even my flutter kick is awfully imbalanced
Have you tried just kicking once per stroke like immersion swimmers do? Like I said before, if you manage to have a rhythm swimming works all naturally and is like walking
Having someone critique your form is huge. Ask someone to record you and post here later
Are you still doing that legendary ultrachad routine?
not going to change it unless it stops working, today is an off day and I finished work early because it's too hot.
>being afraid of bacteria that kills weak people.
I met a random dude while swimming today and talked with him for an hour while he cleaned up bottles I threw out of the water.
Based & bovine pilled, I recognize you from a thread a while back. Sensational physique.
Aren't you scared of staph in that water, cow anon?
>can't bilateral breath for shit
>even my flutter kick is awfully imbalanced
>slipped disk
>elbow tendonitis in right arm that forces me to do an S pull to minimize resistance
>about 20 lbs overweight
there's no way I can get ready for a 6km open swim in 5 months while cutting, right?
I think you can manage that!
Its ok to breathe just unilaterally, especially during a race.
About your kick, do you need it? When I swim I barely use kicks. I usually jut kick once for every stroke. Maybe you could try that out? Like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NcXYN2IxOc
Hopefully the tendonitis will have receded some by the time of your race.
You didn't mention how far you can swim now, so can't comment on your readiness for a 6k, but i can say i managed to go from practicing about 2k to doing a 5.4k in less than 3 months, so there is always hope.
Also, some excellent swimmers are fat. Dont put yourself down just because you think you need to lose 20lbs.
Went swimming yesterday for the first time in years and it is a lot more difficult than I remember. Swimming in a lake from buoy to buoy freestyle and got freaked out because I started cramping. Doggypaddled back to where I could stand, meanwhile some 70 year old dude was just pumping laps next to me. Made me kinda jelly.
There were hot babes at the beach though so 10/10 would recommend.
how can I teach myself to do butterfly stroke?
Youtube.
Learn to do shoulder dislocates as an exercise so your shoulders are limber. Arm Haulers work too. Practice with the breaststroke to build up your shoulders if you cant pull yourself fully out of the water with each stroke to breathe.
Thanks, I'm just having trouble really getting the motions down and I feel like my timing for kicking/strokes is off.
I have access to a 25 yard pool to do laps and I'm trying to get the most out of swimming for cardio. I read that butterfly is the best for building muscle, but is it really that much better than other strokes?
All the strokes help build muscle. Except Combat side stroke, that shits relaxed.
For getting the kick down imagine as you pull yourself out of the water you are sliding up onto a pool deck and want to keep your legs straight. You can practice the dolphin kick first then get the stroke down. Or you can do the stroke without the kick and try to just pull your legs up out of the water. Eventually one way or the other your body will want to instinctively kick at the right time to keep your speed up.
First learn do dolphin kick. Then do armstrokes every x kicks. First have your head below the surface such that you have to stop after a few meters. Then try to breath while stroking. If you do armstrokes only every x kicks then arm placement will make a difference. Placing them stretched in front of you make it harder while placing them next to your hips is easier. I'd say once you get to two kicks per stroke you're pretty much in the zone and don't need to think about armplacement anymore because you're in a good flow. What you can also do is seperate your stroke from dolphine kicks like doing the strokes with flutter kicks or with breast stroke kicks such that you can concentrate more on the butterfly armstroke. Also use your core while dolphine kicking
Teach me how to float right fucking now.
Take big deep breath. Lie on back. Relax. if at any moment you feel your chest/hips sink, take a deep breath and push chest and hips on surface (similar to how you push your chest out right before doing a squat). Keep head surface level, eyes looking straight up with your ears partially submerged. Don’t tilt your head towards your chest. Keep taking deep breaths. That’s all you need to do to float. Key is in breathing and staying relaxed
i don't know how to swim hehe, can you like, teach yourself in a pool?
Routine?
here's my program.
Ok, the fucking frog kick in a breast stroke. When do you initiate it in relation to the arm stroke? How do you reload it? Do you kick out and in hard or more down?
I feel like no matter what i do it wrong
arm stroke, frog kick, gliding, armstroke, ... Best way I've found is when you are breathing you load your kick such that your kick ends into your submerged gliding phase
is it swam or swum? this always confuses me
swom
swimmed
swumt
What's the most superior swimming style and why is it dog paddling?
>all these people who can't swim
how is this even possible? I can't even fathom not knowing how to swim through water and I'm not even white
probably indians or americans no point for them to learn how to swim since the water quality is so bad they instantly die or they're so fat they sink and drown.
>meanwhile bats.
Why do you keep attention whoring dude? How is that picture swimming related, you turbohomosexualnaggertranny??
It's a homo board. His OP pics fit right in that alley
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