I think that I've been told that everything causes cancer, and much of it is correlation studies based on lifestyle and dietary surveys, which are notoriously inaccurate.
Due to this, hardly any of it is trustworthy.
Go outside.
Doesn't give you cancer, people with metabolic disease due to malnutrition / modern food consumption cannot repair UV damage from the sun and get cancer. Proof of this is the massive increase in skin cancer in the past 70 years, all while sunscreen use has increased along with cancer awareness. It's the food.
Ideally we would eat traditionally and get a moderate amount of sun, without sunscreen, and tjere will be little risk of cancer.
Fucking thank you, I'm tired of hearing that everything causes cancer? You know what causes cancer? Living, we naturally and innately produce cancer cells that usually get killed off immediately
Doesn't give you cancer, people with metabolic disease due to malnutrition / modern food consumption cannot repair UV damage from the sun and get cancer. Proof of this is the massive increase in skin cancer in the past 70 years, all while sunscreen use has increased along with cancer awareness. It's the food.
Ideally we would eat traditionally and get a moderate amount of sun, without sunscreen, and tjere will be little risk of cancer.
Bro the ozone layer is the cause of skin cancer used to protect everyone from the harmful bits and you could be outside all day without worry till we put a big gaping asshole in it and now the sun is dangerous.
>According to the latest Scientific Assessment of Ozone Depletion, completed in 2018, portions of the ozone layer have recovered at a rate of 1% to 3% per decade since 2000. >At this rate, Northern Hemisphere and mid-latitude ozone are likely to recover completely in the next ten years. Whereas, the Southern Hemisphere will recover by 2050s and the polar regions by 2060s. >Experts estimate that 2 million cases of skin cancer cases globally are likely to be prevented each year by 2030.
America should be pretty much good, but not totally back to natural levels by 2030.
The spike in skin cancer is because people are living longer to get it.
We just don’t live dangerous lives anymore, so a lot fewer people are dying from factory/farm accidents and war.
You also have medication to fight infection and bleeding, so a bad cut isn’t going to kill you.
We also have running water and soap.
We basically removed most of the early deaths, making the gap between the pre-50 and post-50 total life expectancy smaller (in 1900, it was 47 and 72, now it’s 79 and 81).
This is a meme. Majority of cancers are not caused by old age. Majority of cancers are caused by preventable illness brought on by eating goyslop your entire life. A lifetime of ingesting microplastics, pesticides, living in a city with bad air quality, smoking, drinking, fast food, etc.
Corporate greed caused the cancer spike we see today, along with several other preventable illnesses. Who could be behind this?
Some forms of cancer, maybe, but not skin cancer. It was incredibly common among sailors (particularly European whalers) well before the advent of goyslop, because they spent a shit ton of time under the tropical sun.
Just wear a goddamn hat and some zinc, non-chemical sunscreen.
Cancers basically a numbers game, eventually cell replication IS going to fuck up. So, yes goyslop is bad, but that's not the only factor here as the anon you are replying to said
Love expectancy being lower in those days had to do with infant mortality, not people just dropping over at 30. If you lived past 5 you'd make it to 70+ in most cases aside from war and accidents.
It strongly depends on where you live. Some areas get extremely high UV indexes (12-20), which absolutely will give you cancer if you sit outside half the day. Melanoma is very prevalent.
>fit posts some trucker gay exposed to sun for 70 years >hahaha sun makes u look old xD >T. Anon, 40 year old virgin because he looks like a ghost with aids
Tdlr get a healthy amount of sun and stop caring about aging so much
If u actually care about aging you should do low protein, low calorie diet and fast regularly
Getting cancer from sun exposure is dependent on so many other variables. Just try to get some good sun as often as you can. Don’t avoid it and also don’t sun bathe for hours on end either.
It‘s not like I don‘t like getting tanned, but just tried reading in the sun the other day. I was soaking in sweat and couldn‘t maintain more than 10 minutes
It’s fucking retarded considering wild animals don’t rampantly die from cancer when they’re old. Granted most animals don’t get very old, but they’re not dying in droves in their respected 40s to cancer
That said I’d do something like 30 min bathing exposure at a time and maybe 10 min in the face to not look 20 years older than you are
Well wild animals don't really get to be old anon, that's kind of the point. Our pets get cancer, as we have removed them survival of the fittest.
They also have skin protection (hair, feathers or scales)
I get 10 minutes of shirtless direct South Florida sunlight a day, but i am black. I wouldn't recommend a white person do this without applying full body sunscreen.
I've researched this pretty thoroughly. We need sun exposure. Fucking Period. Without it, we aren';t normal and healthy. Period. Black and Browinsh people need even MORE than whiteys do. PEriod.
The question is: how much? This requires intelligence and caution. Burns are bad and can cause damage. They are also very unnatural. If you were living the lifestyle we are deisgned to live you would be outside all day in February, getting all the weak, northern sun you needed and never getting burned. As the sun gets brighter/hotter/closer as the spring and summer pass, your skin would slowly adapt to the exposure it naturally gets. And then, when you were outside working for 8 hours in july, you would not get burned; you weould be safely adapted to that amount of exposure. Contrast that with working inside under floruescent lights, then going to a summer "beach vacation" where youre outside in full summer sun for 8 hours per day - of course youre going to burn because youre not adapted. The answer is to slowly and pregresively expoise your skin to adapt , to obtaion the benfiots and to prevent burns.
great article discussing all of this, eszpecially intersting discussion on negores, sun exposure and high blood pressure (hint - they need mroe sunlight than whioteys) https://www.outsideonline.com/health/wellness/sunscreen-sun-exposure-skin-cancer-science/
holy shit bless you anon. I dont get how thats such spare knowledge in our population. Im blue eyed blind haired and never get sunburned except for a little bit a very few times in my whole life. And why? because exactly of the reasons you wrote. I always say this to my family. My brother is always complaining in the summer like " oh man im getting suburned bohoo, how come i can always chill outside the whole day and dont get a little bit red? " easy as that im just outside a lot, adapt with the seasons. you are really only truly fucked from the sun if you are a turbo ginger, every other human race shouldnt get wrecked so easy by that one fucking thing that made life possible on this planet
I am also blonde and blue eyed. Live in S Florida for over 20 years. Year round sun exposure on my body (I do wear hats to cover my face because as healthy and as necessary s the sun is, I dont need to have that weather beaten sun-blasted look a lot of white people get if they work outside - it does age your face, especially). I never get burned anymore, even if I spend all day at he beach. Base tan ftmfw
Also, and I dont know how true this is, but saturated fat in the diet is skin protective (makes sense, as skin is very very fatty) as soppsoed to seed oils which,a s I understand it, the body cannot properly icnorproate/use in cell walls, which makes them more vulnerable to sun damage.
Problems seem to arise when a white person whose skin is compeltely unadapted to it fucks off to an equatorial spot, or decides to spend one weekend a year "at the beach" in fucking July. Yeah, well no shit youre going to get burned, stupid.
It's actually something that heavily correlates with lack of sun; doing close work. They did a survey among dutch conscripts in 1890 and found that 33% of academics had bad eyesight and only 2% of farmers. Since all of asia now sits at a computer from age 2, they all have meteoric rises in myopia. Singapore went up to 90% in 1 or 2 generations.
Furthermore on days off I do all outside work shirtless and in shorts. I also lay out and tan on nice days for 30 minutes. Just so I don't get raped when I go to the beach which always happened as a kid despite using sunscreen. My wife gets sun poisoning never following any of my advice.
>ages your skin >pic related
i had the same thought the other day, just sunbathe your lower half, skin age only really matters for the face and you skin is less delicate on your legs/belly. also there was a study comparing australia and scotland for heart disease and ozzys had far less in spite of similar eating habbits, study concluded that sun exposure helps reduce heart disease due to nitric oxide being released due to uv exposure and nitrates being a dilator >By dilating the blood vessels of the heart, nitrates can reduce the stress on the heart by improving blood flow to the heart muscle.
Does everyone need sun? I’m Mexican and planning a trip to the river this month where I’ll be in direct sun for hours. Should I be building up tolerance to sun exposure?
>Should I be building up tolerance to sun exposure?
Personally I would not and just wear a fuck ton of sunscreen to prevent burning and a big ass sombrero (which doesn't help with reflected sunlight, but still).
The sun lives rent free in every cumskin's mind. Imagine not being able to just go outside whenever you want without doing mental gymnastics about the sun
lots of cultures avoid the sun during mid day, coloured even mocked Whites for being the only idiots not to >"Only mad dogs and Englishmen go out in the midday sun"
I like to roast myself in direct sun for about 20 mins on both sides, never on consecutive days though, give my skin time to repair, melanocytes to activate
My dad tanned very well, I can if I build up enough of a base
It's like lifting, learn your starting point, increase the more your skin adapts
Cut out the shit in your diet if you burn easily. It's not the sun in that case, it's oxidation. Sunbathe without burning and you get the benefits without the long term "negatives". If you feel it dries your skin, apply some aloe or something, maybe some mineral sunscreen to your face prior. This shit isn't hard to figure out bro
Sun exposure is definetely LEGIT
I have severe post flu fatigue syndrome,legit feel like dying and I get 0 sun usually.
Today I went to a friends pool for about 20 minutes and I have 10 times the energy I had these last days,still feeling tired but better.
If you wanna age like shit and look 40 at 30, then by all means go outside in the sun. However, if you wanna youthmaxx and slay prime college age pussy, don't tan or wear at least mineral sunscreen when u go out.
All the aging is photoaging (because of the sun to be exact). And tanning is basically skin damage (unless you're black or dark). So he is right, it does fuck up the skin.
I tan, naked, at noon every day. The UV index is above 10 now where I live. I am quite bronze. I keep my face in the shade. It's going to get enough unintentional sun. Ears, cheekbones, and bald spot get sunscreen sometimes.
I see old guys hiking with very deep long-term tans and they look great. Not too leathery. Protect the face, don't get burned. Those are the only rules IMHO
15 minutes a day with a t-shirt on under the direct sunlight is enough for all that Vitamin D benefits.
For the rest of the time avoid direct sunlight, that's it. Sunlight isn't magic.
Bro the entire planet depends on the sun. It is the sole source of every living thing on this earth. The sun's power is not overrated. The difference it makes is definitely noticable. By the glory of the Lord the sun IS MAGIC.
>billions of invisible entities that arent even clearly energy nor matter shot by an enormous fireball that is constantly exploding millions of km away from us, suspended in the middle of the void by dark matter
It might as well be.
It's all about UVA vs UVB radiation. UVB is lowest in comparison to UVA in the morning. UVA causes your skin to produce NO, which is really good for you in almost every way.
30 minutes a day direct exposure, during first half of your day. ideally following or during a workout. eyes unshielded, force your eyes to adjust.
sunlight literally commands almost every important function in your body, down to the "resting" size of your penis and testicles. if you ever have a son keep is ass outside like a dog so you can proudly watch him claim a harem as he enters puberty and girls start learning about the monster solar powered dick on him
This "DUDE THE SUN POWERS YOUR DICK AND BALLS BRO" meme is retarded. Nudists are naked in the sun every single damn day over the entire summer, and yet the vast majority of them have barely working dicks.
NO MATTER WHAT YOUR VIEWS, YOU CAN SHIELD YOUR FACE (mineral sunscreen, hats, etc.)
sun damage is the #1 way to accelerate aging, and the #1 place that matters is your face. pic related is a truck driver who had one side of his face consistently exposed to the sun, it's obviously better to not get fucked up and wrinkly for no reason. probably good to mitigate sun exposure (more at dawn/dusk, minimal at midday), but shielding your face is inarguable and essential
if sun boosts vit d and test, great, get it from your bare chest/back/balls/whatever. if sun damage is lipid oxidation and pufas or something, you probably don't consistently eat 0g pufa. yeah, chemical sunscreens are xenoestrogenic, use mineral baby ones and maximize shade via hats
Seriously, retarded example. Glass in his case, wasn't transparent to near infra red and UVB. nder UVA, which he was getting in large doses, he was just moving melanin from deep layer to the surface. Not even producing it.
While it's infra red that helps us produce melatonin inside the cells (the most powerfull antioxidant) and collagen (without it your skin will turn into shit) and UVB that we use to produce melanin and vitamin d3 (which prolongs telomeres and repairs damaged skin). So he was just damaging skin with a UVA abd visible blue light (both cause cancer) and not getting any benefits from the sun in form of infra red and UVB.
The conclusion, don't be retarded and don't make retarded conclusions because of one retard.
are you honestly claiming that your face will be damaged more by staying inside/100% shielding your face? or that shielding your face but allowing the rest of your body to get sun would have health ramifications?
I grew up on the beach, I know plenty of people who got consistent sun exposure, even some who didn't use sunscreen if you think it's about unmitigated uva exposure. they all look markedly older than people who didn't, and I see no reason to nontrivially age yourself for no reason
personally, i look really terrible without a tan. on one hand, i'd love to get that golden brown look since i do tan well, on the other hand, i don't want to age my skin by exposing it to UV rays.
would going out into the sun for ~30 mins get me my tan without damaging my skin? or is sun screen the solution? there has to be a middle ground, right?
basically, i want a nice tan so i don't look sickly but i don't want to get wrinkly what do?
1 year ago
Anonymous
I mean aging is caused by the same radiation as tanning afaik
if you want a tan and can't use a self-tanner instead, I'd just say to protect your face/neck as much as possible, because that's where you'd notice it the most. also it's not a binary thing, there's degrees to it (here are people out on cape cod every day that fail the paper bag test) just err on the lighter side of what you find acceptable
First of all, if you go to the beach in the morning and evening, you won't see many people there. While in the noon it's full. Normally you would get infra red in the morning, uvb later, you would stay out of the sun/cover your skin when the day is the hottest, and get infra red in the evening again. This way you get antioxidants to fight radiation and don't get too much radiation. And you would do it every day, even in early spring, when no one is sun bathing at the beach. Your skin you have a constant protection in the form of melanin and melatonin and would be producing collagen.
On top of that, you wouldn't be going to the solarium in the winter, where you get only shitty uva.
Yes, some damage will still happen and you might look older in your 70s if you have a shitty lifestyle and eat shit like seed oils. But you will have a healthy brain with no degenerative diseases. That's a good trade off.
Alternatively you can supplement d3 (with all cofactors like k2, mg, etc.) and buy infra red lamp. But we might not know what else sun does and if other light is inportant
1 year ago
Anonymous
WRONG! Vit D and melanin production occur ONLY from UVB which is highest in NOON DAY SUN. Late afternoon sun has almost no UVB and mostly UVA, which is what causes melanomas. Best strategy is to actually go out in noon day sun, build up a tan, get that Vit D, then venture out into other sun exposure after a few weeks.
1 year ago
Anonymous
both uva and uvb are the highest at noon. The point is the amount of radiation that you can handle. The dose makes it a poison.
Download dminder if you want to know when it's the right angle for UVB to hit the ground and the insensitivity of radiation.
Btw, covering your face might be a good idea while sunbathing. Your face is normally exposed more than your whole body and you would still get infra red inside your brain.
I actually have done it without thinking through. Just felt like it's too much of sun for it since I spent another half and hour going to the beach, while wearing a t-shiet
It's not just generative brain diseases, it's also covid. Covid is gone now, because we get plenty of sun. In israel it's hot and people stay out of the sun, so they get this meme flu again.
So it's good to have infra red lamp and supplement vit d3 for the winter in any case. You will be able to tell all the gays wit vaccines and masks to fuck off. I did it and never got covid. I was properly tested since I had to have 6 tests every month to go to the gym.
P.s.: always keep in mind that there is something else sun does. We found out about melatonin only in the 90s and only recently that it's produced inside cells under infra red light. And guess what it's the most effective drug against covid. Africans don't give a fuck about meme flu, since they all have a natural life style.
retard, the wrinkled side of his face is where he had his window down, the other side was getting sunlight filtered through glass. literally everything you wrote is wrong.
no he's right about that, read the paper, it was uva on his exterior-facing side through the window glass and minimal sunlight on the other side through the cabin
the problem is that getting full-spectrum light won't 100% prevent the damage from uva, and uva doesn't vary as much by time-of-day, so you can get high uva:uvb ratio exposure in the morning or afternoon instead of midday
How is it possible to have this same bullshit thread every fucking day on here? Am I supposed to believe that countless anons all just have the same question all the time? These have to be bots right?
>refereeing three outdoor sporting events tomorrow >the range of times I will be out is between 11A and 4P >these are the temperatures tomorrow >this is the sun exposure i will have
I am so fucked bros
i dont even own any long sleeve referee uniforms. i actually prefer putting on sunscreen and wearing short sleeve shirts. i get hot extremely easily. its just short sleeve shirt, shorts, socks pulled up just below my knees, and a visor.
you guys should see the forearm and knee tans i get.
threadly reminder to make sure your magnesium is within healthy levels, its essential for good vitamin d metabolism and harder to get than other co-factors
why's that? seems to pack a bunch of vitamins into one pill which seems convenient.
i don't know much about supps, though
fit is full of live fast die young dudes. don't take advice from fit. wear sunscreen and take a vitamin D supplement daily. Tanning is for class signalling only, and it only works if you're not poor. and even then you are still aging yourself and getting cucked. Wear sunscreen and take a vitamin d supplement
but when i dont go out into the sun i look like a pale zombie
>My main issue with One A Day Men’s Health Formula is that it uses a Copper form that in studies, has been proven to not be absorbable at all (Cupric Oxide) [R, R, R].
>What I mean is that even though it lists on the label that you will get 2 mg of Copper, you’re actually getting none. And this is purely because of the unabsorbable form in which Copper is in aka Cupric Oxide.
>By my books, such a supplement that uses a 100% ineffective form and in a sense purposefully deceives people about what they will get out of it, is not a supplement worth even considering among the very best ones.
>Cause a great multivitamin would never do that. And you don’t see that among the high-quality ones.
>On top of that, I’m also not a fan of the synthetic form of vitamin E (Dl-Alpha-Tocopheryl Acetate) and the fact that it forgets about 4 crucial minerals completely.
>Also, the nutrient forms you’ll find in the One A Day Men’s Health are some of the worst (poor or average in terms of absorbability considering what you could get instead).
Moderation. Don't get burned. Don't try to tan. A few hours in the sun is good for most people. if you are really pale be mindful until you develop a tan. If you are really concerned avoid being out a lot in the mid day sun. The earths atmosphere is really good at blocking UV, but mid day the sun is shining through a lot less atmosphere.
>tfw face and neck permanently red from one summer of perpetual sunburning
I'm now also super sensitive to the sun and will go red with less than an hour of exposure what do?
>gives you cancer and ages your skin
Fuck off, retard. Our ancestors spent their days working in the sun. This garden gnome meme that the sun is bad needs to die. Unless you live in the Sahara, spending a couple of hours a day outside won't hurt you in any way.
>Aristarchus or Aristarch of Tegea (Greek: Ἀρίσταρχος ὁ Τεγεάτης, Aristarkhos ho Tegeates) was a Greek tragic poet and a contemporary of Sophocles and Euripides. He lived to be a centenarian, composed seventy plays, and won two tragic victories.
>live in society where child mortality is high >also live in society where most people die at an old age if you survive early childhood
Get the average and you get around 30, damn it's almost like you have single digit IQ
This study pretty much concludes it all. In general, even if you do get melanoma (which is very unlikely if you use sunlight gradually and in the morning/evening and don't use toxic sunscreen), you wouldn't die if you keep sunbathing.
Check works of dr. Gominak, dr. Somerville or medcram on sunlight
Just put on some sunscreen on your face and then a wide hat and go live your life it ain't that hard we have this thread every fucking day cmon. If you are outside for many hours then put some sunscreen on your body as well.
better to take a vitamin d supplement than allow your skin to turn into leather. that's why women hit the wall hard when they're 30. nothing gross than seeing a 30 year old, who should still be young, have a ton of tiny wrinkles on her decolletage etc.
Gives you vitamin d and boosts tests - Yes
Gives you cancer and ages your skin - No
Sunscreen gives you cancer not the sun, and if you take care of your skin it won't age it
>Sunscreen gives you cancer not the sun
How many fucking times are you idiots going to post this fucking sentence? Not only we know the precise mechanisms by which sun exposure gives us cancer, we also have tons of epidemiological data on it.
What's the proof of the idiocy you posted? >UUUUUH PEOPLE WHO USE SUNSCREEN GET MORE CANCER THAN PEOPLE WHO DON'T UUUUH I'M RETARDED LOOK AT ME DROOLING ALL OVER MY KEYBOARD
That's only true if you don't account for exposure to the sun. People who don't use sunscreen are more likely to not go to the beach in the first place.
Found the retard.
We have 'known' lots of stuff that has turned out to be incorrect, but go ahead and keep slathering chemicals on your skin. Skin cancer (and all cancer) rates have exploded in the last 50-60 years - did you ever wonder why? Or course not, because you're not capable of critical thinking. "Muh, tv and muh doctor says suncreen good, sun bad"
Moderate sun exposure is not a problem - be smart and don't get sunburned all the time and it's fine.
Of course, you're probably too dumb to moderate your sun exposure to avoid a sunburn so just keep using that spf 100 you dumb fuck
>Skin cancer (and all cancer) rates have exploded in the last 50-60 years
I agree tons of modern stuff fucks you up and gives you cancer, but isn't part of it that people died of things that now aren't mortal or prevalent with sanitation and so on, and thus live long enough to get and die from a bad cancer
>but isn't part of it that people died of things that now aren't mortal or prevalent with sanitation and so on, and thus live long enough to get and die from a bad cancer
probably not. many traditional populations had many people live to 70s 80s 90s but average lifespan was brought down by high infant mortality. in the early twentieth century many missionary physicians and researchers noted the distinct absence of Western diseases (cancer included) among peoples living and eating traditionally
>Skin cancer (and all cancer) rates have exploded in the last 50-60 years
I agree tons of modern stuff fucks you up and gives you cancer, but isn't part of it that people died of things that now aren't mortal or prevalent with sanitation and so on, and thus live long enough to get and die from a bad cancer
and also that diagnosis is a lot better, so people will "have breast cancer" e.g. and have a mild potentially benign lump removed that they would probably have died with 70 years ago
fit is full of live fast die young dudes. don't take advice from fit. wear sunscreen and take a vitamin D supplement daily. Tanning is for class signalling only, and it only works if you're not poor. and even then you are still aging yourself and getting cucked. Wear sunscreen and take a vitamin d supplement
>Everyone with loads of sun looks like ass in 10 years >People locked as sex slaves in basements for a decade looks years younger >Vitamin D capsules are like $15 a year to maintain optimum serum levels year round
Yeah this is pretty straight forward, even ignoring the cancer risk.
20 minutes a day are enough. So basically if you leave your home everyday during the summer you should be okay. You don't need to cancermaxx like Insta thots.
>be white European Chad >only need 10-15 minutes of sun exposure a day to get my vitamin D >get test boost with little exposure to the sun as well
I see no problem
Cancer cell growth is stopped by a very low sugar, high vegetables and fruit diet. Eat healthy and you don't have to worry about it.
Only 20% of vitamin D can be absorbed from food. That's 80% from sunlight you need for vital things like your immune system. If you fear getting a sunburn, this sun screen will protect while letting you absorb Vitamin D.
Cancer cell growth is stopped by a very low sugar, high vegetables and fruit diet. Eat healthy and you don't have to worry about it.
Only 20% of vitamin D can be absorbed from food. That's 80% from sunlight you need for vital things like your immune system. If you fear getting a sunburn, this sun screen will protect while letting you absorb Vitamin D.
>Only 20% of vitamin D can be absorbed from food.
Citation needed. Goblling up supplements raises blood level of vitamin D3 all the way up to intoxication. However it is stored for shorter time and skin producers various other shit besides vitamin D, including feel-good endorphine.
GOD I LOVE THE FUCKING SUN I LOVE THE BRIGHT BEAUTIFUL BLUE SKY I LOVE THE WONDERFUL SHADOWS CAST BY GODS CREATIONS I LOVE THE WARM FEELING ON MY SKIN I LOVE THE FUCKING SUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUNNNNNNNNNNNNN
Like everything, moderation is key. I started getting 30 mins a day of direct sun exposure after 2 weeks of shitty overcast weather and my mood improved, the lines under my eyes went away despite being sick and sleeping less, and my skin looks healthier despite not even getting that much of a tan from it. Spend a few hrs a week in the sun and you will immediately see benefits.
UVA causes aging, UVB causes burns.
Get your sun exposure earlier in the morning before the UV gets too high.
You need sun but UV 11 will fuck you up.
t. Australian outdoor guide
Everything "causes" (really just associate with) cancer because of poor quality science being over interpreted and turned into clickbait
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23193004/ >"Associations with cancer risk or benefits have been claimed for most food ingredients. Many single studies highlight implausibly large effects, even though evidence is weak."
A slow tan is beautiful but requires a lot of time on the beach unfortunately.
What I mean is always wearing and reapplying sunscreen, sitting under umbrellas and in general acting like someone who tries hard to not get a tan while being in situations where you could get sunburnt easily.
The result is a longer lasting tan that doesn't cause any skin shedding.
I'm Greek btw.
I think that I've been told that everything causes cancer, and much of it is correlation studies based on lifestyle and dietary surveys, which are notoriously inaccurate.
Due to this, hardly any of it is trustworthy.
Go outside.
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This.
Great start to thread.
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Fucking thank you, I'm tired of hearing that everything causes cancer? You know what causes cancer? Living, we naturally and innately produce cancer cells that usually get killed off immediately
Doesn't give you cancer, people with metabolic disease due to malnutrition / modern food consumption cannot repair UV damage from the sun and get cancer. Proof of this is the massive increase in skin cancer in the past 70 years, all while sunscreen use has increased along with cancer awareness. It's the food.
Ideally we would eat traditionally and get a moderate amount of sun, without sunscreen, and tjere will be little risk of cancer.
Bro the ozone layer is the cause of skin cancer used to protect everyone from the harmful bits and you could be outside all day without worry till we put a big gaping asshole in it and now the sun is dangerous.
Ozone layer has actually been repaired bro, look it up
you’re a piece of shit. we need to care for the environment
>According to the latest Scientific Assessment of Ozone Depletion, completed in 2018, portions of the ozone layer have recovered at a rate of 1% to 3% per decade since 2000.
>At this rate, Northern Hemisphere and mid-latitude ozone are likely to recover completely in the next ten years. Whereas, the Southern Hemisphere will recover by 2050s and the polar regions by 2060s.
>Experts estimate that 2 million cases of skin cancer cases globally are likely to be prevented each year by 2030.
America should be pretty much good, but not totally back to natural levels by 2030.
The spike in skin cancer is because people are living longer to get it.
We just don’t live dangerous lives anymore, so a lot fewer people are dying from factory/farm accidents and war.
You also have medication to fight infection and bleeding, so a bad cut isn’t going to kill you.
We also have running water and soap.
We basically removed most of the early deaths, making the gap between the pre-50 and post-50 total life expectancy smaller (in 1900, it was 47 and 72, now it’s 79 and 81).
This is a meme. Majority of cancers are not caused by old age. Majority of cancers are caused by preventable illness brought on by eating goyslop your entire life. A lifetime of ingesting microplastics, pesticides, living in a city with bad air quality, smoking, drinking, fast food, etc.
Corporate greed caused the cancer spike we see today, along with several other preventable illnesses. Who could be behind this?
Some forms of cancer, maybe, but not skin cancer. It was incredibly common among sailors (particularly European whalers) well before the advent of goyslop, because they spent a shit ton of time under the tropical sun.
Just wear a goddamn hat and some zinc, non-chemical sunscreen.
Sailors also got scurvy. Hard tack and watered down rum was practically the precursor of goyslop
Cancers basically a numbers game, eventually cell replication IS going to fuck up. So, yes goyslop is bad, but that's not the only factor here as the anon you are replying to said
the capitalist class
Very coinvent we realised smoking causes cancer right around the time the effects of all those nuclear tests would have showed up
Love expectancy being lower in those days had to do with infant mortality, not people just dropping over at 30. If you lived past 5 you'd make it to 70+ in most cases aside from war and accidents.
>source: bro just trust me
It strongly depends on where you live. Some areas get extremely high UV indexes (12-20), which absolutely will give you cancer if you sit outside half the day. Melanoma is very prevalent.
Wtf I thought 12 was the maximum
>At high altitude tropical sites (eg Mauna Loa Observatory, Hawaii), the UV Index can exceed 20.
Can you imagine.
All you need is 15-25 minutes of sunlight per day. Thats it.
she gets HWD [HUGE WHITE DICK] exposure
Loving this new meme
loving this reply to this new meme
>what is moderation
>limit exposure to only a couple of hours at most a day
>when hiking, just wear sunscreen
not my problem
Time of day is also a factor. I hike as well, just never between 12 and 3 pm.
>fit posts some trucker gay exposed to sun for 70 years
>hahaha sun makes u look old xD
>T. Anon, 40 year old virgin because he looks like a ghost with aids
Tdlr get a healthy amount of sun and stop caring about aging so much
If u actually care about aging you should do low protein, low calorie diet and fast regularly
you vitamin D and boosts test
based
you cancer and ages your skin
based
>current thinking
based.
Getting cancer from sun exposure is dependent on so many other variables. Just try to get some good sun as often as you can. Don’t avoid it and also don’t sun bathe for hours on end either.
I can‘t sun bathe very long. Like It‘s too fucking hot or too fucking boring
same bruv, as soon as I start sweating I just get uncomfortable, don't see the point of it.
It‘s not like I don‘t like getting tanned, but just tried reading in the sun the other day. I was soaking in sweat and couldn‘t maintain more than 10 minutes
It’s fucking retarded considering wild animals don’t rampantly die from cancer when they’re old. Granted most animals don’t get very old, but they’re not dying in droves in their respected 40s to cancer
That said I’d do something like 30 min bathing exposure at a time and maybe 10 min in the face to not look 20 years older than you are
Well wild animals don't really get to be old anon, that's kind of the point. Our pets get cancer, as we have removed them survival of the fittest.
They also have skin protection (hair, feathers or scales)
I get 10 minutes of shirtless direct South Florida sunlight a day, but i am black. I wouldn't recommend a white person do this without applying full body sunscreen.
I get 3 hours of shirtless direct northern scandinavia sunlight a day, but I'm white. I wouldn't reccomend a black person.
Yeah it's not enough for us up there
El mutt de americano
moderation
sunburn is based
I've researched this pretty thoroughly. We need sun exposure. Fucking Period. Without it, we aren';t normal and healthy. Period. Black and Browinsh people need even MORE than whiteys do. PEriod.
The question is: how much? This requires intelligence and caution. Burns are bad and can cause damage. They are also very unnatural. If you were living the lifestyle we are deisgned to live you would be outside all day in February, getting all the weak, northern sun you needed and never getting burned. As the sun gets brighter/hotter/closer as the spring and summer pass, your skin would slowly adapt to the exposure it naturally gets. And then, when you were outside working for 8 hours in july, you would not get burned; you weould be safely adapted to that amount of exposure. Contrast that with working inside under floruescent lights, then going to a summer "beach vacation" where youre outside in full summer sun for 8 hours per day - of course youre going to burn because youre not adapted. The answer is to slowly and pregresively expoise your skin to adapt , to obtaion the benfiots and to prevent burns.
great article discussing all of this, eszpecially intersting discussion on negores, sun exposure and high blood pressure (hint - they need mroe sunlight than whioteys) https://www.outsideonline.com/health/wellness/sunscreen-sun-exposure-skin-cancer-science/
holy shit bless you anon. I dont get how thats such spare knowledge in our population. Im blue eyed blind haired and never get sunburned except for a little bit a very few times in my whole life. And why? because exactly of the reasons you wrote. I always say this to my family. My brother is always complaining in the summer like " oh man im getting suburned bohoo, how come i can always chill outside the whole day and dont get a little bit red? " easy as that im just outside a lot, adapt with the seasons. you are really only truly fucked from the sun if you are a turbo ginger, every other human race shouldnt get wrecked so easy by that one fucking thing that made life possible on this planet
I am also blonde and blue eyed. Live in S Florida for over 20 years. Year round sun exposure on my body (I do wear hats to cover my face because as healthy and as necessary s the sun is, I dont need to have that weather beaten sun-blasted look a lot of white people get if they work outside - it does age your face, especially). I never get burned anymore, even if I spend all day at he beach. Base tan ftmfw
Also, and I dont know how true this is, but saturated fat in the diet is skin protective (makes sense, as skin is very very fatty) as soppsoed to seed oils which,a s I understand it, the body cannot properly icnorproate/use in cell walls, which makes them more vulnerable to sun damage.
Problems seem to arise when a white person whose skin is compeltely unadapted to it fucks off to an equatorial spot, or decides to spend one weekend a year "at the beach" in fucking July. Yeah, well no shit youre going to get burned, stupid.
Good article.
If I recall lack of sunlight exposure is why asian countries have the highest bad eyesight rates.
It's actually something that heavily correlates with lack of sun; doing close work. They did a survey among dutch conscripts in 1890 and found that 33% of academics had bad eyesight and only 2% of farmers. Since all of asia now sits at a computer from age 2, they all have meteoric rises in myopia. Singapore went up to 90% in 1 or 2 generations.
I work for usps and never have gotten sunburn my family is Irish and Polish. I do take care of my skin but never use garden gnomescreen.
Furthermore on days off I do all outside work shirtless and in shorts. I also lay out and tan on nice days for 30 minutes. Just so I don't get raped when I go to the beach which always happened as a kid despite using sunscreen. My wife gets sun poisoning never following any of my advice.
>ages your skin
>pic related
i had the same thought the other day, just sunbathe your lower half, skin age only really matters for the face and you skin is less delicate on your legs/belly. also there was a study comparing australia and scotland for heart disease and ozzys had far less in spite of similar eating habbits, study concluded that sun exposure helps reduce heart disease due to nitric oxide being released due to uv exposure and nitrates being a dilator
>By dilating the blood vessels of the heart, nitrates can reduce the stress on the heart by improving blood flow to the heart muscle.
i wonder if this explains why I pop a chub every time I sun my ballsack. It increases Nitric oxide in proximate regions.
Does everyone need sun? I’m Mexican and planning a trip to the river this month where I’ll be in direct sun for hours. Should I be building up tolerance to sun exposure?
>Should I be building up tolerance to sun exposure?
Personally I would not and just wear a fuck ton of sunscreen to prevent burning and a big ass sombrero (which doesn't help with reflected sunlight, but still).
Yeah I’m planning on wearing a sombrero. Thx anon n__n
I want
Unironically die
women sunbathing gets you uncontrollably horny? jesus christ, youre too far gone
You’re the degenerates who need to look at that smut bullshit.
I think it's time to seek help. Those are normal photos, friend.
Here is a great presentation by Ivor Cummins on Vitamin D. He presents all his sources so you can go digging for yourself.
Really good video on Vit D. Crazy how those who use sunscreen religiously actually have higher melanoma rates than those who don't wear any.
The sun lives rent free in every cumskin's mind. Imagine not being able to just go outside whenever you want without doing mental gymnastics about the sun
yall do be gettin ashy tho fr fr
lots of cultures avoid the sun during mid day, coloured even mocked Whites for being the only idiots not to
>"Only mad dogs and Englishmen go out in the midday sun"
even the birds stay in the trees during midday.
Sun age you
Long periods cooking you ass will melt you body
Google for old people without a shirt and look at the face/body contrast
I try to get enough sun for health and vitamin d production, but wear a hat and sleeves if I'm going to be outside all day.
I like to roast myself in direct sun for about 20 mins on both sides, never on consecutive days though, give my skin time to repair, melanocytes to activate
My dad tanned very well, I can if I build up enough of a base
It's like lifting, learn your starting point, increase the more your skin adapts
Don't be outside for longer than 20 mins without sunscreen. /thread
The actual answer is to not go outside at all.
Or where a fucking hat? Maybe some sleeves? What is wrong with you pussies?
Cut out the shit in your diet if you burn easily. It's not the sun in that case, it's oxidation. Sunbathe without burning and you get the benefits without the long term "negatives". If you feel it dries your skin, apply some aloe or something, maybe some mineral sunscreen to your face prior. This shit isn't hard to figure out bro
Sun exposure is definetely LEGIT
I have severe post flu fatigue syndrome,legit feel like dying and I get 0 sun usually.
Today I went to a friends pool for about 20 minutes and I have 10 times the energy I had these last days,still feeling tired but better.
If you wanna age like shit and look 40 at 30, then by all means go outside in the sun. However, if you wanna youthmaxx and slay prime college age pussy, don't tan or wear at least mineral sunscreen when u go out.
Have fun meeting that prime college pussy in your basement, nerd.
It does both
vitamin d gummies. no cancer, no skin ageing.
/thread
>implying vitamin d is the only benefit of sun exposure
>le supplements
You guys fell for the gnomish scam, lmao.
>I will fuck up my skin just to prevent the garden gnomes from benefitting from my existence
Just go and kill some garden gnomes so it evens out
>implying the sun fucks up your skin if you are healthy
All the aging is photoaging (because of the sun to be exact). And tanning is basically skin damage (unless you're black or dark). So he is right, it does fuck up the skin.
However a little bit won't do any damage
>So he is right, it does fuck up the skin.
No.
>Gummies replace the fucking sun
lmfao
>Meanwhile, many common sunscreen ingredients have been found to be hormone disruptors that can be detected in users’ blood and breast milk.
What kind of sunscreen do I use without risking hormone disruption?
a big hat
Mineral sunscreen made with zinc, check EWG and skin charsmia for more info. It's a expensive process but health is worth it
are women ever off their phones?
If you're beyond the tropics of cancer and capricorn you don't need to worry about sun exposure
If the sun was bad for you, we'd have died long before we invented civilization.
>what is the ozone layer
It’s only thinned above the Antarctic circle.
Stay inside and take a vitamin d supplement
Live your life
those are some nice feet
>gives you cancer and ages your skin
Only if you eat carbs and sneed oils
I tan, naked, at noon every day. The UV index is above 10 now where I live. I am quite bronze. I keep my face in the shade. It's going to get enough unintentional sun. Ears, cheekbones, and bald spot get sunscreen sometimes.
I see old guys hiking with very deep long-term tans and they look great. Not too leathery. Protect the face, don't get burned. Those are the only rules IMHO
15 minutes a day with a t-shirt on under the direct sunlight is enough for all that Vitamin D benefits.
For the rest of the time avoid direct sunlight, that's it. Sunlight isn't magic.
>Sunlight isn't magic.
citation needed
Some people overrate the sun power, it does have benefits, but they're not strong enough to make a noticable difference
Denial is the first stage of acceptance
Bro the entire planet depends on the sun. It is the sole source of every living thing on this earth. The sun's power is not overrated. The difference it makes is definitely noticable. By the glory of the Lord the sun IS MAGIC.
>billions of invisible entities that arent even clearly energy nor matter shot by an enormous fireball that is constantly exploding millions of km away from us, suspended in the middle of the void by dark matter
It might as well be.
>going outside in june
It's all about UVA vs UVB radiation. UVB is lowest in comparison to UVA in the morning. UVA causes your skin to produce NO, which is really good for you in almost every way.
I don't disagree that there is a difference between UVA and UVB. But something tells me we might need both types.
Heil Sol muthafuckas
If you drink too much water you will die. Do you stop drinking water? Of course not, everything is in moderation.
30 minutes a day direct exposure, during first half of your day. ideally following or during a workout. eyes unshielded, force your eyes to adjust.
sunlight literally commands almost every important function in your body, down to the "resting" size of your penis and testicles. if you ever have a son keep is ass outside like a dog so you can proudly watch him claim a harem as he enters puberty and girls start learning about the monster solar powered dick on him
This "DUDE THE SUN POWERS YOUR DICK AND BALLS BRO" meme is retarded. Nudists are naked in the sun every single damn day over the entire summer, and yet the vast majority of them have barely working dicks.
I would lick her asshole if you know what I mean
bros what did he mean by this???
Vitamin D is only made around high noon.
Do 10 minutes a day when you can around solar noon and you get all the vitamin D without any of the cancer.
When you do all day exposure like when you work outside that you should worry.
NO MATTER WHAT YOUR VIEWS, YOU CAN SHIELD YOUR FACE (mineral sunscreen, hats, etc.)
sun damage is the #1 way to accelerate aging, and the #1 place that matters is your face. pic related is a truck driver who had one side of his face consistently exposed to the sun, it's obviously better to not get fucked up and wrinkly for no reason. probably good to mitigate sun exposure (more at dawn/dusk, minimal at midday), but shielding your face is inarguable and essential
if sun boosts vit d and test, great, get it from your bare chest/back/balls/whatever. if sun damage is lipid oxidation and pufas or something, you probably don't consistently eat 0g pufa. yeah, chemical sunscreens are xenoestrogenic, use mineral baby ones and maximize shade via hats
that pic is of a woman who worked in a factory with windows on only one side you stupid moron
>you stupid moron
Seriously, retarded example. Glass in his case, wasn't transparent to near infra red and UVB. nder UVA, which he was getting in large doses, he was just moving melanin from deep layer to the surface. Not even producing it.
While it's infra red that helps us produce melatonin inside the cells (the most powerfull antioxidant) and collagen (without it your skin will turn into shit) and UVB that we use to produce melanin and vitamin d3 (which prolongs telomeres and repairs damaged skin). So he was just damaging skin with a UVA abd visible blue light (both cause cancer) and not getting any benefits from the sun in form of infra red and UVB.
The conclusion, don't be retarded and don't make retarded conclusions because of one retard.
are you honestly claiming that your face will be damaged more by staying inside/100% shielding your face? or that shielding your face but allowing the rest of your body to get sun would have health ramifications?
I grew up on the beach, I know plenty of people who got consistent sun exposure, even some who didn't use sunscreen if you think it's about unmitigated uva exposure. they all look markedly older than people who didn't, and I see no reason to nontrivially age yourself for no reason
personally, i look really terrible without a tan. on one hand, i'd love to get that golden brown look since i do tan well, on the other hand, i don't want to age my skin by exposing it to UV rays.
would going out into the sun for ~30 mins get me my tan without damaging my skin? or is sun screen the solution? there has to be a middle ground, right?
basically, i want a nice tan so i don't look sickly but i don't want to get wrinkly what do?
I mean aging is caused by the same radiation as tanning afaik
if you want a tan and can't use a self-tanner instead, I'd just say to protect your face/neck as much as possible, because that's where you'd notice it the most. also it's not a binary thing, there's degrees to it (here are people out on cape cod every day that fail the paper bag test) just err on the lighter side of what you find acceptable
First of all, if you go to the beach in the morning and evening, you won't see many people there. While in the noon it's full. Normally you would get infra red in the morning, uvb later, you would stay out of the sun/cover your skin when the day is the hottest, and get infra red in the evening again. This way you get antioxidants to fight radiation and don't get too much radiation. And you would do it every day, even in early spring, when no one is sun bathing at the beach. Your skin you have a constant protection in the form of melanin and melatonin and would be producing collagen.
On top of that, you wouldn't be going to the solarium in the winter, where you get only shitty uva.
Yes, some damage will still happen and you might look older in your 70s if you have a shitty lifestyle and eat shit like seed oils. But you will have a healthy brain with no degenerative diseases. That's a good trade off.
Alternatively you can supplement d3 (with all cofactors like k2, mg, etc.) and buy infra red lamp. But we might not know what else sun does and if other light is inportant
WRONG! Vit D and melanin production occur ONLY from UVB which is highest in NOON DAY SUN. Late afternoon sun has almost no UVB and mostly UVA, which is what causes melanomas. Best strategy is to actually go out in noon day sun, build up a tan, get that Vit D, then venture out into other sun exposure after a few weeks.
both uva and uvb are the highest at noon. The point is the amount of radiation that you can handle. The dose makes it a poison.
Download dminder if you want to know when it's the right angle for UVB to hit the ground and the insensitivity of radiation.
>dminder
thanks bro. i will check it out
Btw, covering your face might be a good idea while sunbathing. Your face is normally exposed more than your whole body and you would still get infra red inside your brain.
I actually have done it without thinking through. Just felt like it's too much of sun for it since I spent another half and hour going to the beach, while wearing a t-shiet
It's not just generative brain diseases, it's also covid. Covid is gone now, because we get plenty of sun. In israel it's hot and people stay out of the sun, so they get this meme flu again.
So it's good to have infra red lamp and supplement vit d3 for the winter in any case. You will be able to tell all the gays wit vaccines and masks to fuck off. I did it and never got covid. I was properly tested since I had to have 6 tests every month to go to the gym.
P.s.: always keep in mind that there is something else sun does. We found out about melatonin only in the 90s and only recently that it's produced inside cells under infra red light. And guess what it's the most effective drug against covid. Africans don't give a fuck about meme flu, since they all have a natural life style.
retard, the wrinkled side of his face is where he had his window down, the other side was getting sunlight filtered through glass. literally everything you wrote is wrong.
no he's right about that, read the paper, it was uva on his exterior-facing side through the window glass and minimal sunlight on the other side through the cabin
the problem is that getting full-spectrum light won't 100% prevent the damage from uva, and uva doesn't vary as much by time-of-day, so you can get high uva:uvb ratio exposure in the morning or afternoon instead of midday
How is it possible to have this same bullshit thread every fucking day on here? Am I supposed to believe that countless anons all just have the same question all the time? These have to be bots right?
>refereeing three outdoor sporting events tomorrow
>the range of times I will be out is between 11A and 4P
>these are the temperatures tomorrow
>this is the sun exposure i will have
I am so fucked bros
go LoAmode
i dont even own any long sleeve referee uniforms. i actually prefer putting on sunscreen and wearing short sleeve shirts. i get hot extremely easily. its just short sleeve shirt, shorts, socks pulled up just below my knees, and a visor.
you guys should see the forearm and knee tans i get.
Just go dressed like an arab.
threadly reminder to make sure your magnesium is within healthy levels, its essential for good vitamin d metabolism and harder to get than other co-factors
Almonds and one a day for men. Low magnesium will fuck you I think. Plus it gives me crazy vivid dreams
>one a day for men
Belongs in the trash.
why's that? seems to pack a bunch of vitamins into one pill which seems convenient.
i don't know much about supps, though
but when i dont go out into the sun i look like a pale zombie
>My main issue with One A Day Men’s Health Formula is that it uses a Copper form that in studies, has been proven to not be absorbable at all (Cupric Oxide) [R, R, R].
>What I mean is that even though it lists on the label that you will get 2 mg of Copper, you’re actually getting none. And this is purely because of the unabsorbable form in which Copper is in aka Cupric Oxide.
>By my books, such a supplement that uses a 100% ineffective form and in a sense purposefully deceives people about what they will get out of it, is not a supplement worth even considering among the very best ones.
>Cause a great multivitamin would never do that. And you don’t see that among the high-quality ones.
>On top of that, I’m also not a fan of the synthetic form of vitamin E (Dl-Alpha-Tocopheryl Acetate) and the fact that it forgets about 4 crucial minerals completely.
>Also, the nutrient forms you’ll find in the One A Day Men’s Health are some of the worst (poor or average in terms of absorbability considering what you could get instead).
>For example, Calcium Carbonate, Magnesium Oxide, Chromium Chloride, Cyanocobalamin, Folic Acid, Manganese Sulfate, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Sodium Selenite, Zinc Oxide (for Calcium, Magnesium, Chromium, vitamin B12, vitamin B9, Manganese, vitamin B6, Selenium, Zinc, respectively).
can you recommend to me a good muli vitamin then?
i try to eat a balanced diet but it's difficult to get everything you need from just food
Moderation. Don't get burned. Don't try to tan. A few hours in the sun is good for most people. if you are really pale be mindful until you develop a tan. If you are really concerned avoid being out a lot in the mid day sun. The earths atmosphere is really good at blocking UV, but mid day the sun is shining through a lot less atmosphere.
>Vitamin D boosts test
Natties are so pathetic.
>tfw face and neck permanently red from one summer of perpetual sunburning
I'm now also super sensitive to the sun and will go red with less than an hour of exposure what do?
Only women are allowed to be pale.
Why is she giving Pepe a raspberry? This is an odd meme
Why the fuck not bigot
ywnbaw
>gives you cancer and ages your skin
citation needed
>gives you cancer and ages your skin
Fuck off, retard. Our ancestors spent their days working in the sun. This garden gnome meme that the sun is bad needs to die. Unless you live in the Sahara, spending a couple of hours a day outside won't hurt you in any way.
Our ancestors spent their lives working in coal mines getting black lung disease, so what of it?
Our ancestors lived until 30
>Aristarchus or Aristarch of Tegea (Greek: Ἀρίσταρχος ὁ Τεγεάτης, Aristarkhos ho Tegeates) was a Greek tragic poet and a contemporary of Sophocles and Euripides. He lived to be a centenarian, composed seventy plays, and won two tragic victories.
>live in society where child mortality is high
>also live in society where most people die at an old age if you survive early childhood
Get the average and you get around 30, damn it's almost like you have single digit IQ
This. Pasty weaklings
This study pretty much concludes it all. In general, even if you do get melanoma (which is very unlikely if you use sunlight gradually and in the morning/evening and don't use toxic sunscreen), you wouldn't die if you keep sunbathing.
Check works of dr. Gominak, dr. Somerville or medcram on sunlight
Just put on some sunscreen on your face and then a wide hat and go live your life it ain't that hard we have this thread every fucking day cmon. If you are outside for many hours then put some sunscreen on your body as well.
better to take a vitamin d supplement than allow your skin to turn into leather. that's why women hit the wall hard when they're 30. nothing gross than seeing a 30 year old, who should still be young, have a ton of tiny wrinkles on her decolletage etc.
I never understood the fear about skin cancer. It is easily detected and treated.
Gives you vitamin d and boosts tests - Yes
Gives you cancer and ages your skin - No
Sunscreen gives you cancer not the sun, and if you take care of your skin it won't age it
>Sunscreen gives you cancer not the sun
How many fucking times are you idiots going to post this fucking sentence? Not only we know the precise mechanisms by which sun exposure gives us cancer, we also have tons of epidemiological data on it.
What's the proof of the idiocy you posted?
>UUUUUH PEOPLE WHO USE SUNSCREEN GET MORE CANCER THAN PEOPLE WHO DON'T UUUUH I'M RETARDED LOOK AT ME DROOLING ALL OVER MY KEYBOARD
That's only true if you don't account for exposure to the sun. People who don't use sunscreen are more likely to not go to the beach in the first place.
Found the retard.
We have 'known' lots of stuff that has turned out to be incorrect, but go ahead and keep slathering chemicals on your skin. Skin cancer (and all cancer) rates have exploded in the last 50-60 years - did you ever wonder why? Or course not, because you're not capable of critical thinking. "Muh, tv and muh doctor says suncreen good, sun bad"
Moderate sun exposure is not a problem - be smart and don't get sunburned all the time and it's fine.
Of course, you're probably too dumb to moderate your sun exposure to avoid a sunburn so just keep using that spf 100 you dumb fuck
>Skin cancer (and all cancer) rates have exploded in the last 50-60 years
I agree tons of modern stuff fucks you up and gives you cancer, but isn't part of it that people died of things that now aren't mortal or prevalent with sanitation and so on, and thus live long enough to get and die from a bad cancer
>but isn't part of it that people died of things that now aren't mortal or prevalent with sanitation and so on, and thus live long enough to get and die from a bad cancer
probably not. many traditional populations had many people live to 70s 80s 90s but average lifespan was brought down by high infant mortality. in the early twentieth century many missionary physicians and researchers noted the distinct absence of Western diseases (cancer included) among peoples living and eating traditionally
and also that diagnosis is a lot better, so people will "have breast cancer" e.g. and have a mild potentially benign lump removed that they would probably have died with 70 years ago
fit is full of live fast die young dudes. don't take advice from fit. wear sunscreen and take a vitamin D supplement daily. Tanning is for class signalling only, and it only works if you're not poor. and even then you are still aging yourself and getting cucked. Wear sunscreen and take a vitamin d supplement
Vitamin D supplement is not a replacement for the sun. Stop being retarded.
get some but not too much of it, especially if you're genetically inferior (pale like an ashkenazi)
>Everyone with loads of sun looks like ass in 10 years
>People locked as sex slaves in basements for a decade looks years younger
>Vitamin D capsules are like $15 a year to maintain optimum serum levels year round
Yeah this is pretty straight forward, even ignoring the cancer risk.
Literally all your body is covered in skin, retard.
20 minutes a day are enough. So basically if you leave your home everyday during the summer you should be okay. You don't need to cancermaxx like Insta thots.
same as it always was
get enough to get vitamins and such
not enough to get skin cancer or burns
like an hour or so if you're white
>be white European Chad
>only need 10-15 minutes of sun exposure a day to get my vitamin D
>get test boost with little exposure to the sun as well
I see no problem
What are some sun protective foods
female ejaculatory juices
Astaxanthin and lypocene are photo-protective. Consuming more saturated fats to displace the PUFA will help too.
You just couldn't name foods that contain Astaxanthin and lypocene, could you autist?
You need to supplement them to get enough. 12mg astaxanthin is impossible to get from food.
Research cancer protective foods. Also like
said, avoid processed sugar.
Cancer cell growth is stopped by a very low sugar, high vegetables and fruit diet. Eat healthy and you don't have to worry about it.
Only 20% of vitamin D can be absorbed from food. That's 80% from sunlight you need for vital things like your immune system. If you fear getting a sunburn, this sun screen will protect while letting you absorb Vitamin D.
>Only 20% of vitamin D can be absorbed from food.
Citation needed. Goblling up supplements raises blood level of vitamin D3 all the way up to intoxication. However it is stored for shorter time and skin producers various other shit besides vitamin D, including feel-good endorphine.
>low sugar
>fruit
pick one
>while letting you absorb Vitamin D.
you make vit. d, you don't fucking absorb it from the sky
I just hate getting small freckles or whatever when I'm out for a while.
GOD I LOVE THE FUCKING SUN I LOVE THE BRIGHT BEAUTIFUL BLUE SKY I LOVE THE WONDERFUL SHADOWS CAST BY GODS CREATIONS I LOVE THE WARM FEELING ON MY SKIN I LOVE THE FUCKING SUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUNNNNNNNNNNNNN
based trip dubs
it only gives you cancer if you eat sneed oils
Also take astaxanthin
Not exactly hard data, but these pictures look interesting
god i need a freckled girl
Like everything, moderation is key. I started getting 30 mins a day of direct sun exposure after 2 weeks of shitty overcast weather and my mood improved, the lines under my eyes went away despite being sick and sleeping less, and my skin looks healthier despite not even getting that much of a tan from it. Spend a few hrs a week in the sun and you will immediately see benefits.
UVA causes aging, UVB causes burns.
Get your sun exposure earlier in the morning before the UV gets too high.
You need sun but UV 11 will fuck you up.
t. Australian outdoor guide
can i block uva with sunscreen? my only goal is to lose my paleness with causing as little damage as possible
Everything "causes" (really just associate with) cancer because of poor quality science being over interpreted and turned into clickbait
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23193004/
>"Associations with cancer risk or benefits have been claimed for most food ingredients. Many single studies highlight implausibly large effects, even though evidence is weak."
A slow tan is beautiful but requires a lot of time on the beach unfortunately.
What I mean is always wearing and reapplying sunscreen, sitting under umbrellas and in general acting like someone who tries hard to not get a tan while being in situations where you could get sunburnt easily.
The result is a longer lasting tan that doesn't cause any skin shedding.
I'm Greek btw.