rom my understanding of Stu McGill’s protocol, he does not believe in the diagnosis of non-specific low back pain and contends that every case of back pain has a specific cause and that he can locate the cause whether it be muscular, discogenic, facetogenic or ligamentous in nature based on his interview and physical exam. He then determines that the spine is unstable through one of these aforementioned causes and thus requires stability through performing the “Big 3” exercises, which he established place low compressive and shear forces on the spine. So, essentially the same treatment protocol for whatever the exacting cause of back pain is. People will often feel better because exercise (of any nature) does have an analgesic effect, but the narrative offered by McGill is not accurate.
I think McGill’s work on spine biomechanics is excellent and that he is a very accomplished researcher, but he is not a clinician and this is obvious in his approach, as our understanding is that 90% of low back pain is non-specific (see attachment), and most exercises help diminish back pain, which will also resolve on its own. So, there is no single exercise protocol that is superior to another for the management of back pain.
>he has never watched squat university
There's an entire channel of some goober Stuart McGill fanboy talking about his professional athlete clients and many have had back pain for years, and have continued working out their back and over the years the pain has persisted until they're treated with his muscle activation/mobility enhancement/joint mobilization routines. If your hypothesis that "back pain is treated by any back exercise" were true then he would not have these clients.
>appeal to consensus
Come on bro. You're better than that.
>If your hypothesis that "back pain is treated by any back exercise" were true then he would not have these clients.
If we are going to go with that logic, we can also apply that logic to other things. So lets apply that to homeopathy. There are many people that have done homeopathy and their pain/condition went away. Does that mean that homeopathy works?
>professional athletes and world-record setters are going to a professional physiotherapist and getting issues treated that doctors have tried and failed to treat for years >nah, must be nothing to it
I guess I was wrong estimating you as better than a common midwit. My bad, carry on eating glue and huffing Fauci farts.
Alright sorry for being a cunt, but it is annoying when people who consider themselves scientifically minded disregard efficacious treatments in favor of clearly non-efficacious institutional-backed orthodoxy.
Sooooo is SqU based or cringe ?
My lower backs been stiff for a while and all i remember is entire fit-stagram communities slandering and smearing him with shit
dont know who that saul goodman looking fella is thobeit
>dyel boomer thinks pain is caused by movement of a joint that is supposed to move
This is why doctors should keep away from all things related to the musculoskeletal system. They are absolutely retarded when it comes to movement of the human body. They also often tend to look at the body as a machine with parts, like something to be serviced with a surgeons knife
the problem is everything is bad for joints when you don't have sufficient strength, mobility, and connective tissue around the joint
you have to build up to exercises patiently or eventually get injured
Is his words on situps and crunches being bad for the spine true? It's a staple for abs, what else am I supposed to do? His suggestions for his own stuff does not help with hypertrophy of the abs and I need my cable crunches
I don't like doing split squats so I'll choose to believe him 100%
I’m laying down and doing girl push-ups owo
is owo supposed to be a sound or is it an emoticon?
rom my understanding of Stu McGill’s protocol, he does not believe in the diagnosis of non-specific low back pain and contends that every case of back pain has a specific cause and that he can locate the cause whether it be muscular, discogenic, facetogenic or ligamentous in nature based on his interview and physical exam. He then determines that the spine is unstable through one of these aforementioned causes and thus requires stability through performing the “Big 3” exercises, which he established place low compressive and shear forces on the spine. So, essentially the same treatment protocol for whatever the exacting cause of back pain is. People will often feel better because exercise (of any nature) does have an analgesic effect, but the narrative offered by McGill is not accurate.
I think McGill’s work on spine biomechanics is excellent and that he is a very accomplished researcher, but he is not a clinician and this is obvious in his approach, as our understanding is that 90% of low back pain is non-specific (see attachment), and most exercises help diminish back pain, which will also resolve on its own. So, there is no single exercise protocol that is superior to another for the management of back pain.
>he has never watched squat university
There's an entire channel of some goober Stuart McGill fanboy talking about his professional athlete clients and many have had back pain for years, and have continued working out their back and over the years the pain has persisted until they're treated with his muscle activation/mobility enhancement/joint mobilization routines. If your hypothesis that "back pain is treated by any back exercise" were true then he would not have these clients.
>appeal to consensus
Come on bro. You're better than that.
>If your hypothesis that "back pain is treated by any back exercise" were true then he would not have these clients.
If we are going to go with that logic, we can also apply that logic to other things. So lets apply that to homeopathy. There are many people that have done homeopathy and their pain/condition went away. Does that mean that homeopathy works?
>professional athletes and world-record setters are going to a professional physiotherapist and getting issues treated that doctors have tried and failed to treat for years
>nah, must be nothing to it
I guess I was wrong estimating you as better than a common midwit. My bad, carry on eating glue and huffing Fauci farts.
Have a nice day anon.
Alright sorry for being a cunt, but it is annoying when people who consider themselves scientifically minded disregard efficacious treatments in favor of clearly non-efficacious institutional-backed orthodoxy.
Looks dyel. Disregarded.
Hes old tho
Sooooo is SqU based or cringe ?
My lower backs been stiff for a while and all i remember is entire fit-stagram communities slandering and smearing him with shit
dont know who that saul goodman looking fella is thobeit
>dyel boomer thinks pain is caused by movement of a joint that is supposed to move
This is why doctors should keep away from all things related to the musculoskeletal system. They are absolutely retarded when it comes to movement of the human body. They also often tend to look at the body as a machine with parts, like something to be serviced with a surgeons knife
Hes a phd doctor not a medical doctor. Anyway it makes sense maybe that doing weighted splits might not be normal for that joint
What's the alternative?
Reverse Lunges but he'll probably try to sell you a special exercise never before seen.
McGill seems to like squats and deadlifts tho
the problem is everything is bad for joints when you don't have sufficient strength, mobility, and connective tissue around the joint
you have to build up to exercises patiently or eventually get injured
This. He also claims that back squats will always result in back issues. Basically, don't do any exercises with heavy weight.
When has he said that? Hes helped guys in powerlifting and strongmen get back into competition
Is his words on situps and crunches being bad for the spine true? It's a staple for abs, what else am I supposed to do? His suggestions for his own stuff does not help with hypertrophy of the abs and I need my cable crunches
Any other ab afficiandos here?
Ab wheel is way better than almost any other ab exercise and it doesn’t require spine flexion