The problem is our food industry. Seed/Vegetable oil makes some people feel like they're starving even after eating hundreds of calories. Throw in high fructose corn syrup and you have a recipe for high rates of obesity. It isn't a matter of will power it is literally a matter of changing what food you eat. I switched out seed oils and I lost 150 pounds within 7 months after years of trying and failing at dieting. It literally took 0 effort (Besides ordering buckets of beef tallow) to lose weight. After eating I had absolutely no cravings and I could go days without eating (Provided I had some electrolyte water). I went over my parents house and ate one meal cooked with seed oils and I had hunger pangs for the rest of the week. Watch this video if you want to get red pilled.
>goyslop is bad for you
we know this though, so should most people by this point
>I lost 150 pounds within 7 months
I became underweight because I stopped giving a fuck about eating tbh. Still a bit underweight but I like being super skinny.
Before and after pics?
How come I'm not fat then?
People have different biological responses to seed oil. It is still unhealthy.
I started at 270 5'9.
I haven't taken any because I have disgusting gyno that needs to be removed. I thought they would look less like tits if I became underweight but my chest literally looks like a woman's.
I didn't do keto, I just cut out seed oils. Simple as.
Well I am just giving my experience. Cutting out processed shit took 0 effort on my end to actually lose weight.
I stand corrected. I think seed oils are pretty trash but I still think CICO rules, though seed-oil filled foods will likely be less filling and contribute to more calorie consumption…IDK. Hard to believe there is a singular dietary boogeyman but Im glad you’re healthier, which is all that really matters.
>People have different biological responses to seed oil. It is still unhealthy.
Ah yes the magic of fat people. They can apparently create energy from thin air
Pics of current gyno? I gotta see what I'll look like after all this suffering.
>BELIEVE SCIENCEEEEEEE!!!!!!!! EVEN THOUGH SCIENCE HAS GOTTEN MANY THINGS WRONG IN THE PAST!!!!
OK smart guy, what's your take on why the obesity rate has shot up since the 1960s?
You too
Ironically this is the most rational. Not exactly vaccines but there could be so many contaminants in the food/water that have started since the 60s. Pesticides, antibiotics, PUFAs, the antidepressants everyones on, etc.
You'll never be as mentally strong as a fatty. You'll never feel the suffering of stuffing 10 pounds of food down your throat, and not feeling satisfied, and then being hungry again 2 hours later. Their appetite controller just breaks. It's easy to blame the fatty but they've been poisoned, they can't really do anything about it.
>OK smart guy, what's your take on why the obesity rate has shot up since the 1960s?
Not him but theres plenty of contributing factors so trying to pin it on one thing is just retarded. TV's became common household appliances soon after the 60's so more and more people began to sit on their asses instead of going outside. Same goes for home computers. Same goes for microwaves, people eat more processed foods than ever, millenials/gen z can't even boil water and survive on nothing but fast food, takeout and tv dinners, more and more manual labor jobs being replaced with sedentary office work, those 2000 calorie milk shakes from starbucks normies guzzle every day didn't exist back then either. Could go on but you get the point.
>i need a boogeyman aka sneedoils
Stfu and cope. Nobody forces you to eat shitty foods. Believe it or not fruits, veggies, nuts, meat, fish, dairy, eggs, pasta, rice do not contain sneed oils and these are the building blocks of a healthy bodybuilder diet.
>i lost 150 lbs in 210 days
So you started at 400 or 500 lbs lmao. What the fuck are you doing giving advice to anyone. You had 0 self control and blamed seed oils
dunning kruger lol, nuts, eggs, commerical non-ruminant meat all contain unnatural amounts of pufa, chicken, pork are fed veg oil to fatten them and that makes the egg and lard both unnaturally unsaturated, salmon and nuts are naturally high in pufa
Pufas are good for you, thats the medical consesus you shizo. Especially from fish like salmon
>Pufas are good for you, thats the medical consesus you shizo. Especially from fish like salmon
Being better than the standard american diet of omega-6 overload doesn't mean it's ideal/optimal
you're brainwashed lol
You are brainwashed by le edgy carnivor incels
i'm not on any meme diet retard
>le seed oils
take responsibility for your failings fatty
>1900
Did people even listen to the radio back then? No goyslop at all and you have to get off your ass if you don't want to be bored out of your mind. So much has changed for the worse it's absurd to just blame vegetable oil.
I was obese then I lost weight and am normal weight now. I'm going to blame fat people for being fat because it's their fault.
My brother in Christ, I am capable of doing both.
bro you lost weight because you did extended fasts, don't tie in removing seed oils as the magical cure.
Unless I see clear evidence & numerous accounts of seed oils negatively affecting the human body I'm pretty sure this shits all just overhyped as gluten.
I'm saying that removing seed oils made it so I can do fasts. Seed oils make you unnaturally hungry.
no, I wasn't eating seed oils at all on my cut this year (lost 60 since may), just whole foods meats, fruit, and still really hungry, I tried day fasting a few times and it was nightmarishly hard. all placebo. Junk food is tasty, and you want more, and it just so happens to be the only thing with seedoils, chocolate has no seedoils and it has the same effect.
Were you cooking with saturated fats or were you grilling/air frying/boiling your meat?
mostly just fish out of a can, or greek yogurt, even the few times I did chicken or beef I would just throw in the oven on baking sheet and nothing else.
Do it again except cook with tallow, butter, lard, or any other animal fat and I bet you won't feel hungry anymore.
ok yeah probably won't do that, 100% won't make a difference, and telling me I have to do something else proves it's not seed oils.
>Stop blaming fat people for being fat
No.
Knowledge and free time is easy to come by in the information age. For this reason, incompetence is the fault of the incompetent.
>blood pressure randomly gets too low at work and I get dizzy as fuck
What do? Keep a packet of salt in my pocket to slonk?
It's probably blood sugar. Low bp usually results in more severe symptoms
8:1 tsp sugar:salt to 1 liter of water is a standard rehydration solution. Otherwise just eat food.
it's always cico and i won't watch ur shitty videos
Retarded graph, cheese consumption went up and people eat less carbs in the US now
ah yes, "cheese"
Brain addled placebo post. Stop being so gullible.
'Seed oils' are no worse than other refined fat sources. You lost weight because you reduced processed foods and ateless. Oils in general aren't great nutrient sources, but if you're frying something you're going to use a fat source. Seed derived oils are fine for this, just like olive oil. (which is somehow perfectly ok according to every dumb bro-scientist because it's a fruit?) They aren't inflammatory either. I don't understand why people started asserting that they are, as there is no scientific backing for it, and only the opposite. Polyunsaturated & monounsaturated fats almost universally equate to lower inflammation markers and also fewer CVD events.
You can eat a fuck ton of calories with cheesecake or ice cream, or even butter & lard in savoury dishes. Seed derived oils aren't anything special here. Sugar and fat make things taste good. Industrially processed foods are almost always both high in carbs and fats. This along with a lack of fibre and other micronutrients mean they're just easy to eat. Fat people eat too much tasty, easy to consume food. It's processed foods in general, not their 'seed oil' components. CICO. 'Seed oils' are just an anti-science boogeyman cope for idiots to latch onto.
This is bait probably but
Olive Oil is fine because it is cold pressed.
It's not bait. 'Seed oil' conspiracy theory idiots just annoy me.
You can get cold pressed seed derived oils. Extraction methods don't seem to be oxidising oils anyway otherwise muh inflammation would show up in intervention data, but it doesn't.
Olive oil is nice as it's typically less refined than some other oils so you get some more micronutrients, but again, you can get less refined cold pressed seed derived oils.
The problem is not see oil per se it's pufa
Retarded take. Olive oil can be heated to 190 degrees celsius and will stay relatively stable with little of oxidation and lots of antioxidants to counter them.
While seed oils will oxidise shortly in your body and have no other nutritional value.
Retards like you make statements without even analyzing the info given in the video. It litteraly says why you are wrong.
Why so many pro-seed oil shills in this thread?
Why are you an anti seed oil shill? Who pays you for your agenda?
>Besides ordering buckets of beef tallow
So what do you people do with oils? I only use it to grease my pan. It's a negligible part of my diet, so it makes no difference whether I use butter or olive or seed. But if you needed buckets of tallow to replace your oils, presumably you use a lot more. What do you do with it? Drink it? Dip shit into it?
I bake bread, fry stuff, use it for sous vide, etc.
So according to your chart veg oil became much more prevalent in the 60s, obesity pandemic started in the 80s. 20(!) years later, almost an entire generation.
Maybe its ppl working office jobs instead of labor jobs and then watching tv after their work is done and not the oil?
animal products got everyone fat
garden gnome
But my diet is over 60% animal products and I am lean and fit. LIFESTYLE makes you fat. High performance athletes can eat 4000-10000kcal per day and maintain or even lose bodyweight because of their LIFESTYLE.
If you eat too much ANYTHING and move too little, you will become fat. Some food sources might be more obesogenic than others depending on the individual's hormonal profile, but EVERYONE will gain weight if they eat too much and move too little.
There has never been an obese champion distance runner or an obese champion cyclist.
animal products are not filling like plants are, clog your arteries and make you fill like shit, if you would get your bloodwork done you would be put on meds immediately
You can easily eat 5k of calories of plants in one meal. But good luck eating 10 boiled eggs at oncexshd8
Why the fuck wouldn't you just look at total calories?
Pretty sure ~~*medication*~~ has something to do with it
66% of all US adults are on some kind of regular medication which they do NOT need, I doubt that is helping. My (now ex) gf quit all her meds because she was getting horrible mood swings, acne, couldn't sleep. After quitting she lost 30lbs, had more energy, skin cleared up and then she dumped me lol
You shouldn't take any meds unless theres a real reason to be taking them
Just stop eating, gay.
>live with gf
>eat the same thing as she does
>add bread, candy, chocolate almost every day
>consistently lose weight and get stronger
>she's stuck in the upper overweight category and her weight doesn't move a single kilo
Like, it should at least be accounting for water weight, a kilo up here, a kilo down there. What the fuck. Is she sneaking food?
You dont have the same TDEE
As a woman shes probably much shorter than you (a 5'0" person needs less calories than a 6'0" person) plus she has less muscle
I'm 5'7, she's 6'2" and 100kg even. At least she's visibly losing weight and her lifts are going up. She deadlifted 2pl8s a few weeks back.
But how the fuck do you go from lifting just the bar to two plates and remain at 100kg without any movement of weight up or down for like 9 months?!
there's no obesity in america it's just OP's mom skewing the stats
You've got 4-6 hours to eat. Fatism is solved. You're welcome.
I'm unironically starting to believe this is true.
People in America for the past 150 lbs have been able to afford being as fat as possible. What's changed is what foods are popular.
>try to blame sugar for years on IST
>realize you're FUD failed when all the research shows sugar consumption has gone down
>switch to seed oils now
Lol, lmao even.
Nobody forced them to eat that stuff or that much
It's not the oils, it's actually the vaccine.
Fact.
Sure thing bro. Why don't you stop blaming the gun and not the shooter?
I dont believe any of this. I eat everything from goyslop to good stuff but I have no truble maintaining a healthy weight. Dumbass fat fucks need to eat portions suitable for humans and not for fucking elephants.