imagine the views he'd get if he stopped it and went FULL ON BROSPLIT MODE and started doing monday chest, tuesday back, wednesday legs, thursday shoulders, friday arms, etc kind of split
I have a feeling he'd skyrocket in views and 5X his subs
Purely based on the fact he'd see massive physique improvements since he'll actually be doing hypertrophy training
>I have been lifting for 6 months and it shows
Kek what a retard. Please post your body.
I have been lifting for 15 years and I can tell you now if Ivan switched to an actual high volume brosplit he would grow. He goes weeks/months without doing any upper body work, and when he does any, its a few sets, then stops for weeks again.
If he actually did 10-20 hard sets per week for every upper body muscle he has, he would make major gains.
Your time spent in the gym doesn't mean shit if you aren't stimulating anything, fucking moron.
>yeah nah bro if you stopped doing retarded shit and started an actual muscle building routine you wouldnt grow at all... >how do i know this? because ive been doing retarded shit and not an actual muscle building routine for years and im dyel as shit KEK!
Kek, still won’t post body. And you don’t even know what hypertrophy means do you? The only way to build any muscle is progressive overload. You think Arnold got big doing 10 pound curls? I know you think he did because you are an absolute retard.
Not him but everyone gets more aesthetic after hopping on a brosplit. It's simply great for building a nice physique, provided you have intermediate strength at least.
And then after three months you are weaker and have to rotate to a strength program again.
t.beendoingthismyentirelife
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Yea if you are very lean and you build 5 pounds of muscle you will look better. However to acquire a godly physique you will need to do heavy compounds. Some people will forget to stay lean and they will get fat but compounds build the most muscle. Martin berkhan is a big advocate for this and so is Mike ohearn. Arnold could deadlift like 700 lbs and squat 500. This idea that heavy compounds are not need for a great physique is just nonsense.
That's not been my experience. I've increased strength steadily on my bro split after switching from U/L and full body strength programs. I start each workout with a 3x5 compound, which is still steadily going up 2.5kg per week. And I look infinitely better than before, the muscles are more shapely and the flexible programming with lots of isolations allows me to target small weak points. I'm anticipating a >post body so here you go.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
What brosplit did you switch to
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
I have a female pro ifbb friend at my gym who takes a good look at me every few months and improvises a program. This time I need to work on upper chest and upper back thickness so here's what I'm following now:
Back >Chin Up 3x5 >Close grip landmine row 3x10 (heavy, cheat with hip drive but control eccentric) >Straight arm pulldown 3x15 >Standing cable row superset with facepulls 3x12 >Close grip cable row dropset 8/8/8, failure each time
Chest >45° bench 3x5 >Chest fly machine 3x10, pulse in the middle and 20s weighted stretch at failure >45° db bench 3x8 >Cable crossovers 3x15, varying angles >Dips 3x10
Legs >Low bar squat 3x5 >Hack squat 3x8 superset with lying leg curls 3x8 >RDL 3x10 >Leg extension superset with seated leg curls 3x12
Shoulders+arms >DB shoulder press 3x5 >Smith machine behind-the-head press 3x10 superset with lateral raise machine dropset 8/8/8 (each time) >DB front raises superset with rear delt fly 3x12 >Straight bar curl wearing the armblaster 3x8 superset with close grip bench 3x10 >Seated db curl 3x12 superset with skullcrushers 3x12 >Sam sulek-inspired seated cable curl, 3x8 but with 8 more dirty reps after failure
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Oops, leg extension is superset with adduction, not more leg curls.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
> I start each workout with a 3x5 compound, which is still steadily going up 2.5kg per week
You look good, bro. But you’re also retarded. Kek
Yea if you are very lean and you build 5 pounds of muscle you will look better. However to acquire a godly physique you will need to do heavy compounds. Some people will forget to stay lean and they will get fat but compounds build the most muscle. Martin berkhan is a big advocate for this and so is Mike ohearn. Arnold could deadlift like 700 lbs and squat 500. This idea that heavy compounds are not need for a great physique is just nonsense.
fucking up his lower back or realizing its not good for this body in the long run and ending up with a bb hypertrophy routine like most powershitters. just look at alan thrall, he woke up from this nightmare and he is much happier now.
This.
When I did 5x5 for like 2 months, I stopped because my back was killing me and my lifts were decreasing because I didn't want to hurt my back more.
I switched it out for some other routine and it made shit way better.
I'm doing PHUL atm and I really like how it separates lower and upper on days.
It's crazy that some people will keep using retarded ineffective training methods and patterns of behaviour in general even after years of failure or at best middling success. When I realized this at age 15 let's say, I stopped respecting adults up front, because I know most of them didn't learn fucking anything and will not learn until the day they die.
Well this guy gets money from this shit and let's be honest 200kg back squat for reps or whatever his record that he's stuck at for 3 years now is - is quite sufficient for fitness.
squats are fine and dandy as a beginner because you use low weights and the overall stress on your cns is limited. as you get stronger and the weight progresses your cns doesnt progress on the same level as your muscles. someone who does 100lb squats until failure has a much easier time to recover than someone who does 400lb squats til failure. same increase on fatigue on your cns also applies to your lower back. most people who recommend heavy ass squats dont lift heavy enough or straight up dont care about their body in the long run.
slayer-mode pussyking training = curling 10 lbs dbs while mirin sick gonial angles in the gym mirror
LETS GET IT ZOOMER BROS
squats are fine and dandy as a beginner because you use low weights and the overall stress on your cns is limited. as you get stronger and the weight progresses your cns doesnt progress on the same level as your muscles. someone who does 100lb squats until failure has a much easier time to recover than someone who does 400lb squats til failure. same increase on fatigue on your cns also applies to your lower back. most people who recommend heavy ass squats dont lift heavy enough or straight up dont care about their body in the long run.
heavy squats are good if you want to be good at squatting heavy, otherwise you're just fucking your recovery and frying yourself on this one lift instead of taking a more sustainable approach. same with deadlifts
True but you also need to define “heavy”. A 225-275lb squat for a 150-175lb man is heavy enough. Especially if they are doing 8-12 reps. Similar weight for deads. Now if the person is 225+ this changes the game considerably
the day he is truly "onto something" is the day he quits squats and deadlifts
imagine the views he'd get if he stopped it and went FULL ON BROSPLIT MODE and started doing monday chest, tuesday back, wednesday legs, thursday shoulders, friday arms, etc kind of split
I have a feeling he'd skyrocket in views and 5X his subs
Purely based on the fact he'd see massive physique improvements since he'll actually be doing hypertrophy training
not at all how that works underaged first month lifter.
obese powershitter seethe
post body fatass
extreme levels of underagedness
Post body, mantits.
I have been lifting for 15 years and I can tell you now if Ivan switched to an actual high volume brosplit he would grow. He goes weeks/months without doing any upper body work, and when he does any, its a few sets, then stops for weeks again.
If he actually did 10-20 hard sets per week for every upper body muscle he has, he would make major gains.
Your time spent in the gym doesn't mean shit if you aren't stimulating anything, fucking moron.
he doesn't care about a better routine. he does it for the ad money from over 1k monetized videos and patreon supporters.
>people join ivan djurics patreon
192 people
>I have been lifting for 6 months and it shows
Kek what a retard. Please post your body.
>yeah nah bro if you stopped doing retarded shit and started an actual muscle building routine you wouldnt grow at all...
>how do i know this? because ive been doing retarded shit and not an actual muscle building routine for years and im dyel as shit KEK!
Kek, still won’t post body. And you don’t even know what hypertrophy means do you? The only way to build any muscle is progressive overload. You think Arnold got big doing 10 pound curls? I know you think he did because you are an absolute retard.
Not him but everyone gets more aesthetic after hopping on a brosplit. It's simply great for building a nice physique, provided you have intermediate strength at least.
And then after three months you are weaker and have to rotate to a strength program again.
t.beendoingthismyentirelife
That's not been my experience. I've increased strength steadily on my bro split after switching from U/L and full body strength programs. I start each workout with a 3x5 compound, which is still steadily going up 2.5kg per week. And I look infinitely better than before, the muscles are more shapely and the flexible programming with lots of isolations allows me to target small weak points. I'm anticipating a >post body so here you go.
What brosplit did you switch to
I have a female pro ifbb friend at my gym who takes a good look at me every few months and improvises a program. This time I need to work on upper chest and upper back thickness so here's what I'm following now:
Back
>Chin Up 3x5
>Close grip landmine row 3x10 (heavy, cheat with hip drive but control eccentric)
>Straight arm pulldown 3x15
>Standing cable row superset with facepulls 3x12
>Close grip cable row dropset 8/8/8, failure each time
Chest
>45° bench 3x5
>Chest fly machine 3x10, pulse in the middle and 20s weighted stretch at failure
>45° db bench 3x8
>Cable crossovers 3x15, varying angles
>Dips 3x10
Legs
>Low bar squat 3x5
>Hack squat 3x8 superset with lying leg curls 3x8
>RDL 3x10
>Leg extension superset with seated leg curls 3x12
Shoulders+arms
>DB shoulder press 3x5
>Smith machine behind-the-head press 3x10 superset with lateral raise machine dropset 8/8/8 (each time)
>DB front raises superset with rear delt fly 3x12
>Straight bar curl wearing the armblaster 3x8 superset with close grip bench 3x10
>Seated db curl 3x12 superset with skullcrushers 3x12
>Sam sulek-inspired seated cable curl, 3x8 but with 8 more dirty reps after failure
Oops, leg extension is superset with adduction, not more leg curls.
> I start each workout with a 3x5 compound, which is still steadily going up 2.5kg per week
You look good, bro. But you’re also retarded. Kek
Yea if you are very lean and you build 5 pounds of muscle you will look better. However to acquire a godly physique you will need to do heavy compounds. Some people will forget to stay lean and they will get fat but compounds build the most muscle. Martin berkhan is a big advocate for this and so is Mike ohearn. Arnold could deadlift like 700 lbs and squat 500. This idea that heavy compounds are not need for a great physique is just nonsense.
Arnold got big doing a bro split
The whole appeal is to see someone squat every.
Yeah he's on the road to blasted kneecaps
in one week he will be on to something completely different.
What's his endgame?
fucking up his lower back or realizing its not good for this body in the long run and ending up with a bb hypertrophy routine like most powershitters. just look at alan thrall, he woke up from this nightmare and he is much happier now.
This.
When I did 5x5 for like 2 months, I stopped because my back was killing me and my lifts were decreasing because I didn't want to hurt my back more.
I switched it out for some other routine and it made shit way better.
I'm doing PHUL atm and I really like how it separates lower and upper on days.
Working towards 300kg squat and 300kg DL in the most inefficient way possible, so inefficient he may never make it, unironically
>No gains in years
only 40 days till his final form
It's crazy that some people will keep using retarded ineffective training methods and patterns of behaviour in general even after years of failure or at best middling success. When I realized this at age 15 let's say, I stopped respecting adults up front, because I know most of them didn't learn fucking anything and will not learn until the day they die.
Well this guy gets money from this shit and let's be honest 200kg back squat for reps or whatever his record that he's stuck at for 3 years now is - is quite sufficient for fitness.
I don't even understand anymore, so now SwoleShack thinks squats are dangerous and not really worth it?
Squatting heavy everyday*
Heavy squats and deadlifts are retarded
slayer-mode pussyking training = curling 10 lbs dbs while mirin sick gonial angles in the gym mirror
LETS GET IT ZOOMER BROS
you are not as hardcore as you think squatting your 225lb for a few reps barely to parallel.
squats are fine and dandy as a beginner because you use low weights and the overall stress on your cns is limited. as you get stronger and the weight progresses your cns doesnt progress on the same level as your muscles. someone who does 100lb squats until failure has a much easier time to recover than someone who does 400lb squats til failure. same increase on fatigue on your cns also applies to your lower back. most people who recommend heavy ass squats dont lift heavy enough or straight up dont care about their body in the long run.
heavy squats are good if you want to be good at squatting heavy, otherwise you're just fucking your recovery and frying yourself on this one lift instead of taking a more sustainable approach. same with deadlifts
True but you also need to define “heavy”. A 225-275lb squat for a 150-175lb man is heavy enough. Especially if they are doing 8-12 reps. Similar weight for deads. Now if the person is 225+ this changes the game considerably
what happens on day 1488?
2 more weeks and he'll get it
What I like about Ivan is that even though people sperg out about his routine being "suboptimal for aesthetics" he does it anyway.
Don't let people tell you what to do.
ivans routine is optimized for a daily monetized video
Why does it look like he's doing a good morning in that pic
it doesn't. obtain basic lifting knowledge before posting.
>lifts for 5 years
>records every day
>still looks like he doesnt life
What the fuck is his problem?
guy is a retard, he is stuck at <5pl8 squat because he wants to do it everyday isntead of just training properly.