>proves that you can get big despite having a shitty diet if you pin enough
Huh, looks like roids really are a magic pill.
>proves that you can get big despite having a shitty diet if you pin enough
>proves that you can get big despite having a shitty diet if you pin enough
Huh, looks like roids really are a magic pill.
that you can get big despite having a shitty diet
Durrrrrrrrrr
Guy was eoing gymnastics at 12
Olympic dive at 15
Gym since 17
He would be big even without the roids
I don't think he's on a super high dose of roids
He definitely has good genetics, but his training is pretty shitty. Far too many partials and ego lifting. The gear is doing a lot of work here.
Look at Arnold lifting. Everything he was doing was wrong, shit and out of ranges for hypertrophy. Then he went off and said he was just on T and dbol.
Genetics brah. Science based tranny lifters in shambles now.
How much T?
100ml T + 50ml dbol at mr Olympia shape
(don't really like mpmd stuff but at least it's there)
for 50 reps kek
but look sulek squats pretty well kek
Bodybuilders are full of shit about dosages, but it's true that genetic elites can get away with a lot less gear. I know a guy, a wrestler, he was deadlifting 300kg/660lbs at 18. He used a lot less shit then most guys did.
>ml
it would be mg not ml
100ml of a 200mg/ml testosterone preparation would be 20 grams of test
At least Arnold used full ROM.
If you believe that going beyond failure isnt a viable option for stimulating a nagger growth response then I dont know what you are even doing in the gym, dude
*bigger
>I dont know what you are even doing in the gym, dude
Well, I bench in the high 300s, so I'm doing okay. You keep doing the meme shit you see guys on 5 grams of gear doing on youtube, though.
Okay, yeah, but I fucked your ugly mother in the ass last night which disproves your worthless opinion, buddy
>stimulating a nagger growth response
But enough about your mother's routine
>his training is pretty shitty. Far too many partials and ego lifting.
He trains harder than 99% of this board. You fucking jelly retard.
Listen, retard. I've already been though this phase. It's pretty easy to train like a retard and grow when you're eating a fuck ton of food and blasting stupid doses of gear. I used to do it in my 20s. He's not huge because of his retarded training, he's huge because he has genes and pins.
Stop the LARP, you're some DYEL homosexual.
>h-he's just training hard
>it's not the steroids
You're a child.
Ah yes, vials and needles lift heavy weights for him, you absolute moron.
No one is denying that he's roiding, but show me a roiding gay homosexual bodybuilder that actually lifts as heavy as he does. Protip, you won't.
>Ah yes, vials and needles lift heavy weights for him, you absolute moron.
Yes, they literally do, you fucking moron. Do you understand how androgens work? When you're on something like tren, you're DYING to slam some weights around.
>show me a roiding gay homosexual bodybuilder that actually lifts as heavy as he does.
Ronnie Coleman says hi. And that's why he's in a wheelchair now. Most other bodybuilders are smart enough to realize you can ge the same results with lighter weights, full ROM and higher rep ranges. I used to say the exact same retarded bullshit you're saying now when I was in my 20s. Then I realized I could get the same results with half the dosage if I just learned to train correctly.
Show me one science tranny lifter that STAYS as big as those guys that isn't cbum
Show me one ego-lifting retard that gets big without copious amounts of gear.
what’s good nigga
You're half the size of the people we're talking about lol.
anyone double my size is not natty no matter their training style
You haven't been paying attention to the conversation, have you?
>there is not one blanket advice which works for everyone
Yes, there is. You're not a special snowflake.
If he stop roiding he'll deflate back to DYEL within two months, just like any roidtroon, thanks to permanently fucked up natty test production.
You have reading comprehension of a nagger.
Point still stands 100% (unlike your dick).
The steroids build the muscle independent from the training. The training is just to maintain the steroid + natty foundation gains.
For example lets say your natty bench is 100kg for 5. Then you take anavar everyday for a week without training. The first day back in the gym after a week the 100 kg will feel lighter and you might get 8 reps. The extra muscle and strength came on it's own from the steroids and then when you go to the gym you can demonstrate that new strength.
That's why on steoids forums so many guys say that suddenly "the weights felt light" after starting a cycle.
The only point to working out on steroids is to solidify the gains that the steroids created so it becomes the new baseline for further gains over time.
That's why individual bodybuilders need xxx mg of steroids to get to a certain lean mass stage weight. Then they get hard stuck at that weight just like a natural gets hard stuck at his natty limit (limited by natty test). Then when the bodybuilder wants to get to the next level and increase his lean stage weight he will increase the dose to yyyy mg which will cause the steroids to create new muscle. Working out simply maintains that new muscle as it's being built and the body adjusts it's muscle mass upward to the new hardstuck level.
Eventually pro bodybuilders become perma-hardstuck no matter what dose they use they can't gain any more muscle, and they look the same each year. They hit the absolute muscle mass limit for their body using the current drug technology.
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>huge
he's smaller than a 32 y/o former top 10 at the olympia? woah
>he's smaller than a 32 y/o former top 10 at the olympia? woah
after the former top 10 at the olympia retired, stopped blasting and lost 25lbs
>stopped blasting
lol
>lost 25lbs
Oh so he's ONLY 255lbs of muscle? Gee whiz bro he's so small.
You're such a jealous little twat.
why would I be jealous of a roidtranny, i feel pity mainly
Nah, you're extremely jealous. That's why you post constantly about him and save images seething about bodybuilders.
You can stop at any time (you won't).
I'm unironically trying to stop people going down the dark path of steroids.
If I can dissuade just one person, it's a victory.
Get a job.
I'm retired
>I'm a neet in my moms house
That's one way to pretend to be retired.
No, i have my own place. I just like to come on here and occasionally discourage people from using steroids by using memes that the youngsters can relate to. It's a public service I carry out for free.
>occasionally
This is your life. You live with your mother. You have no wife, no children. Nor will you ever.
Stop projecting
Just ask some of the amateur coaches that deal with normal people on roids that are jacked but aren't competitive bodybuilders. They will happily admit that their clients train like shit because they can get away with it, not because it works. If you have experience with female bodybuilders or coaches that train them it becomes even more evident.
>female bodybuilders
Explain how is Sulek training like shit lol. He lifts heavy, does 9-11 sets per bodypart. Goes to failure and pumps the shit out of his muscles at the end of session.
He trains better than majority of people. You're just jealous of some fucking ugly roided zoomer monkey. Holy shit.
He is on Tren for sure. Has the acne, the shortness of breath, is like 3x the natural limit size. Probably a normal to high dose.
I would be honestly surprised he was on tren. He's cutting for a month and something and his acne is gone mostly and the shape is still there.
“cutting”
dude stayed the exact same weight all that time. with the amount of muscle he already has just testosterone isn’t going to cut it
Maybe he is currently off cycle or on a low dose, but he does do Tremendous cycles when bulking.
An alcoholic who quits for 3 months but goes back to drinking is still an alcoholic. A roid user who is off cycle currently is still a roid user.
the fuck you on, you deflate almost instantly (a month worth of time) after you roid and quit, sometimes with no gain retention
Okay.. I did gymnastics and competed in track since I was 7 and started lifting at 15 and 20 years after that I still wasn't big without steroids.
shitty genetics
the heck did you expect me to reply with? we know you know everybody knows
No fucking shit that's the whole point you mongoloids. Genetics are everything. You are making a shitty fucking argument and don't even realize it because you're too fucking stupid.
I see your point. Genetics are always implied retard. It's okay, I will give you a thumbs up for your efforts.
There you go.
Yes, but the reason he's big is because of his good genes. Early training gives you a head start and can make you athletic and perform well, but it doesn't necessarily make you big. You're confusing correlation with causation here, and that's why I pointed it out to you. He did all that shit as a kid because he was gifted. I'm not disagreeing with your conclusion, I'm disagreeing with your reasoning.
You just admitted you have inferior genetics. Congrats, now that you know your place you can get comfy in your subhuman existance and stop aspriring real greatness.
beta trash genetics, dont reproduce
Still look better than you buddy 🙂
I was state champ, surely the genetics weren't too shabby. Still doesn't mean someone gets big just because they've been training since their childhood. Maybe your idea of what's big is just a lot smaller than what I have in mind. Keep training.
>roids work
Holy shit, anon!
how is his diet shitty?
all that matters is ur protein intake u mong
He was SwoleShack's ideal build at 17 years old man.
Also, he is autisticly meticulous about what he eats. He counts calories and macros in everything.
Yes he eats shitty goyslop, but uts not like he just eats whatever he wants whenever he wants.
I dont get the hate for the guy. Just some nice boy Midwest zoomer on roids who does down to earth lifting vlogs every day.
None of his advice is that insightful, but he doesn't come off as a holier than though douche either.
Litterally just milk toast zoomie with body dysmorphia.
so much retardation contained in one post. impressive
If there were flags here I bet yours would be some 3rd world country, retard
retards itt should give his training style a shot before downplaying it. i’ve been doing many partials and going till absolute failure for the past half year, i made pretty good gains with it
And you would have had better results if you went to failure with full ROM.
except i didn’t have the same results before i started doing this. different strokes for different folks, i don’t know why that’s so hard to understand. there is not one blanket advice which works for everyone
That's the point, you reach failure with full ROM and then keep pushing past that point with half-reps
this board lost so much IQ lately
Blame the pajeets
Sure, I've also made good gains training everything 5xAMRAP, taking every set to failure, I just ended up grinding my joints to dust. A new stimulus will always work to some degree, especially if you up the intensity, doesn't mean it's the best way to go about it.
i feel you on the joints getting rough, i take 5 days off every 5 weeks.
>doesn't mean it's the best way to go about it.
sure, in theory. my point is that sometimes you’re better off experimenting for yourself what feels and works best. i’ve tried a brosplit, ppl, applied progressive overload and focusing on ROM had shitty results. this now works for me the best out of anything and i’m making gains like never before.
this, watching his training made me accept form breakdown and partials and techniques to go 'beyond technical failure' and squeeze more out of my sets. He also does that while adding drops, supersets etc. He trains pretty darn hard even if his form is sloppy.
> biology and nutrition doesn't apply to him
cool story bruh
Counterpoint
what does that mean? isnt he natty these days?
At no point did he ever look good.
He's on "TRT." If that doesn't satisfy you, here's coach at the peak of his roiding days.
>you just need ge-
Oh...
Getting big is just lifting heavy and CICO. "Le shitty diet" literally means nothing.
I mean he eats processed foods but he seems pretty strict with his macros and staying in a deficit when cutting.
But he would obviously look like shit if he was natty. Low carb breads / all the other low carb processed shit he eats is pure slop.