>on roids
>lifting for 20+ years
>get mogged by random non-lifters and fat fucks
Is there a bigger joke than powerlifting?
>on roids. >lifting for 20+ years. >get mogged by random non-lifters and fat fucks
>on roids
>lifting for 20+ years
>get mogged by random non-lifters and fat fucks
Is there a bigger joke than powerlifting?
What’s this whole powerlifting meme? Why wouldn’t you look good doing only powerlifting? Genuinely asking, <1 year lifter here
Grinding years squat/bench/deadlift and bulking for more strength makes you look like this.
You can look good doing PL, SwoleShack is just full of demoralizers nowadays
Because most of them go bloatlord mode because of muh leverages and muh recovery
Also low reps grow less muscle.
Many of these retards join a gym to look good but at some point they use the 'muh powerlifting' as a way of coping for the fact that they lack any self control to follow a diet.
Most of them are simply fat fucks that use the excuse of 'becoming strong is the only thing that matters to me' to gorge food without feeling any remorse.
Fuck these fat retards.Most of them look like picrel and unironically believe theyre healthy even when theyre clinically obese.
>Most of them go full bloatlord mode
Weight classes exist anon. SHWs are a minority.
>Low reps grow less muscle
Over time it balances out, not to mention that there are various periodization strategies that involve doing high reps, either on main lifts and/or compounds
>That entire second paragraph
Pure cope and seethe. Your entire post reeks of ignorance.
Either on main lifts and/or accessories*
I like whenever this picture because those plates are really nice to look at. Wish my gym had cool looking plates.
Unironically why would you expect to get a good physique from powerlifting? I'm not attacking you, but if your goal is aesthetics why wouldn't you train with that as your #1 priority? Some powerlifters develop impressive physiques (mainly manlets and steroid users) but many don't. Which is understandable because powerlifting training is designed with one goal in mind: to improve 1rm bench, squat, and deadlift, not to build muscle.
If you enjoy powerlifting then do it, but know that if your main goal is aesthetics then powerlifting may not ever get you there. Don't do it just because SS shills on reddit said training purely for strength will make you look like Steve Reeves
>Not to build muscle
The easiest way to increase your sbd is to get bigger anon. If you aren't gaining muscle, then there's only so much in the way of neurological gains to get. However, people that specialize in PL tend to look worse because they are going to not be as lean for performance purposes, and glamor muscles won't be emphasized as much because they don't contribute to your total
>The easiest way to increase your sbd is to get bigger anon
Yes, but only to a certain point. If it was 1:1 more muscle = more weight on the bar then heavyweight enhanced powerlifters would all look like Kevin Levrone. The fact is, if you want to be a good powerlifter, you're going to have to spend a lot of time doing singles, doubles, and triples with long rest between sets, ie the exact opposite of how to train if you want to build muscle.
Most powerlifters do not have impressive physiques. They look like fat guys, skinny guys, or thick guys somewhere in between. Very few have physiques that would stand out in even local bodybuilding contests. My point is just that, if your #1 goal is building muscle, then train with that in mind.
>The easiest way to increase your sbd is to get bigger anon.
You mean cheat with gay shit like arching and sumo stance.
No, it's to get bigger. Arching doesn't inherently increase weight, and neither does sumo. If what you said was true than literally nobody in a high environment would bench without a max grip and big arch or pull conventional, but there are actually quite a few people that don't. Your cope and jealousy are showing.
>Arching doesn't inherently increase weight, and neither does sumo.
Your ignorance of this fact is astounding. You have to train them for a long period of time to get stronger with them and even then it's not a guarantee. Lots of high level PLs bench with a narrow/moderate grip and/or pull conventional.
>Lots of high level PLs bench with a narrow/moderate grip and/or pull conventional.
And they're all heavyweight+ who can't do that meme shit. The idea that that massively cutting range of motion won't increase the weight is pure cope.
Except they're not. I don't have data for grip widths or more recent sumo vs conventional data, but your claim that they're all SHWs is plain incorrect. Only the lightest weight classes have a "problem" with ROM min-maxing.
>the majority of men under 105kg do sumo
>this doesn't support my argument
nagger, you are braindead.
A solid 1/3+ of people at 83 kg or higher pulling conventional directly disproves your argument. It's IPF Worlds. Literally one step under their Olympic equivalent. Everyone is going to be taking every competitive advantage they possibly can. If what you said was true then zero people would be pulling conventional.
>yeah, 70% of powerlifter do sumo, but it totally doesn't help
Lmao.
My claim was that it doesn't inherently increase weight. Which that chart proves, because if at the highest level everyone isn't doing something then it's clearly not an advantage. There are plenty of people that pull either exactly the same conventional vs sumo, or massively outpull their sumo with conventional. ROM is not the be all end all. Joint structure and limb proportions play a bigger role than ROM does.
Has your pea-sized brain ever considered that the reason they don't do sumo is because they're not flexible enough for it or that they can't nail down the technique? There is no universe in which reducing ROM doesn't also increase the weight.
Has your pea-sized brain ever considered that maybe they have tried incorporating sumo for a long period of time and it still didn't matter? Do you honestly believe that a world class lifter wouldn't have been able to build up enough flexibility or nail technique down? That's honestly a brain damaged thought right there. Even in equipped lifting not everyone pulls sumo and unlike raw there is a clear advantage in pulling sumo due to how the suit works.
> Do you honestly believe that a world class lifter wouldn't have been able to build up enough flexibility or nail technique down?
Yeah, not everyone is built to do that unnatural stancy, retard.
You realize that sumo doesn't inherently mean toes to plates, right? They could have a more moderate or even frog stance. You're incredibly retarded. Post lifts so I can laugh even more at you.
>They could have a more moderate or even frog stance.
That defeats the purpose.
> Post lifts so I can laugh even more at you.
Okay. Here's a conventional 290kg pull. I've got a 185kg bench aroung here somewhere, if you want to get truly btfo.
>Defeats the purpose
???? The sole purpose of sumo is not to reduce ROM. It's to recruit hip and leg musculature slightly differently. There are also a good number of more moderate or frog stance lifters that pull more that way than conventional. You really don't understand anything from a competitive PL perspective.
>290 kg
Assuming you're not larping as this person
>Ramp
>Straps
>Jerking the bar off the floor instead of pulling the slack out
Deload to broomstick bucko
>185 bench
Bet it's tng and ass off the bench, with the standards you've set so far
>The sole purpose of sumo is not to reduce ROM
It is in comp.
>Ramp
>Straps
>Jerking the bar off the floor instead of pulling the slack out
Lmao all that cope. Post your own deadlift or shut the fuck up.
>Bet it's tng and ass off the bench,
You'd be wrong, but I won't even bother to convert it to a webm. It's clear you're just going to cope and seethe instead of posting your own lifts.
>It is in comp
Brain dead opinion. If that was the case then people would never pull sumo out of competition, which is obviously not true.
>All that cope
Literally zero cope there, everything I posted was a fact. You do not know how to deadlift properly and retard strength'd your way to 290 kg. Also squat? Your avoidance of mentioning it seems telling.
>Post yours
Sure
515 squat - https://youtu.be/-PZ3No3kgpQ
410 bench - https://youtu.be/PP0r94Q8vGA
545 dead - https://youtu.be/bsBolX4MhYI
The anti sumo and arching sentiment is so fucking unbelievably stupid
yeah you niggas need to chill you're lifting weights that 99% of humanity couldn't lift anyway you're all good bros
You deadlift almost 100 lbs less and you talk that shit? Lmao fucking powerlifters kek.
>Pointing out obvious flaws in form is talking shit
Fucking brainlets
>getting out-lifted by a guy with worse technique
Embarrassing.
Deadlift is my worst lift by far, I've really struggled with making it move for a long ass time but I finally got it figured out. And it's not as embarrassing as him pulling like a retard.
>dedicating your training entirely to specializing in 3 lifts and micromanaging your technique and programming like an autist
>still get out-pulled by some dudebro who just comes and pulls heavy without thinking about it
This sums up your entire sport and is why strongman, oly and bodybuilding all mog it.
You have zero clue what that guy does programming-wise.
>Thinking strongman, oly, and bodybuilding somehow don't micromanage technique, programming, etc like crazy
Dumb post
I know he doesn't do powerlifting and that's enough.
Thinking strongman, oly, and bodybuilding somehow don't micromanage technique, programming, etc like crazy
I didn't imply that. I implied powerlifting training is inferior.
Powerlifting training isn't inferior though lmao. Most random dudebros do not out-pull, out-squat, or out-bench a powerlifter that knows what they're doing and has put that knowledge into practice for a long period of time. Your example hasn't even said how he trained. For all you know he could be doing PL specific training, just without much emphasis on fixing his technique deficiencies.
Most dudebros don't give a shit about strength at all, so that's a terrible example.
You're the one that brought up random dudebros, not me
What does your whole training schedule look like? And how do you periodize your training? I doubt you don't utilize any method of periodization.
Chest
Back
Delts
Legs
Arms.
Exercise selection and rep ranges depend on what I feel like doing on that day.
So you use WUP. You do general strength training then it seems, which isn't necessarily that different from PL training. Also squat?
>WUP
I have no idea what that means.
>Also squat?
Well, I stopped squatting around late 2020, but I've done 260kg for a double at my strongest and fattest.
Weekly undulating periodization. Basically changing reps, sets, and/or movements weekly.
>260x2 squat
Mirin. You're still wrong about sumo and arching though.
We're gonna have to agree to disagree then, because I have to get up for work in 6 hours. Good luck with powerlifting.
Guy with the deadlift here. I don't do PL training. I do one heavy single and then I do my chins and rows and I go home.
Your bench is only decent because you have a fat fucking gut, the other guy has twice as much muscle mass as your powershitter self
>410 squat at 410 body weight
Impressive, bro
Shut the fuck up sumo coper the other anon is bigger and stronger than you
Somebody said Coath Adam was in an accident recently and had fingers amputated but I haven’t seen anything when I looked it up. Any of you Genovas witnesses hear anything?
Imagine thinking you don’t build muscle doing the big 3 compounds and coping with muh aesthetics bullshit. Most of you homosexuals don’t even look like you lift, and the only ones that aren’t Dyel all have at worst decent bench/squat numbers.
Because you need arms and delts to look good + being lean. Powerlifters typically have underdeveloped arms and delts and are fat.
They get fat mostly and if they cut they lose all their strength. They are not "just a cut away" from being bodybuilders which is a common cope you hear. They're all fake natties as well, trained with powerlifters I know they're fake natties. SARMS minimum.
Their training routines almost all have squats twice a week and when you squat heavy twice a week your effort in everything else goes to shit. That's why you see what I call the "diaper physique" where their ass and hip flexors are huge and everything else sucks.
Sure you can be a 155lb lightweight powerlifter and have some definition but then you get enjoy the herniated disks and snapped knees. They don't tell you that part.
Just apply progressive overload to an actually intelligently designed routine designed to build a physique. You get strong too, look good and are injury free.
>Get fat and if they cut they lose all their strength
Weight classes exist
>All fake natties
Cope
>All have squats twice a week
Squat frequency is heavily individual. Can be anywhere from 1x to 7x. And you're assuming that they squat heavy both sessions, which usually isn't the case, though this may vary depending on periodization style.
>Effort in everything else goes to shit
You realize that bench and deadlift specialists also exist, right? This seems entirely based on your opinion of PL training as opposed to how PL training actually is.
>Herniated disks and snapped knees
The injury rate/1000 hours for PL is lower than basically all other sports
Hemingway bros we're finally winning
5x5 + 3x10
silly
So 8x15? Or 25x 30?
No, just sum it all up and do 55 in total.
3 reps or 3 sets?
>5x5 for compounds
>3x10 for isolations
ftfy
also post body homosexual
> Is there a bigger joke than powerlifting?
I don’t know, you tell me
Tell you what, that all of those guys are on massive amounts of steroids?
genetic freaks on gear
now look at the average competitive powerlifter kek, candito looked like SHIT at the highest level
you will never look good as a powerlifter naturally you fucking homosexual e-celeb mindfucked subhuman
> American teenagers don't see a difference between mogging and being tall and fat.
Just remember that people who you meet in real life will be looking at you from close proximity and, in case of women, from below. If you're tall and fat, you're just shoving your gut into them and floating our armpit stench.
The guy in the middle is short and fat (and bald), the other two guys are tall and fat. Guess who mogs who.
Many top powerlifters are big though and have abs.
Just see John Haack and Dan Green to mention a few.
Both juiced the gills
bodybuilders
>nice gains bro
powershitters
>NOOOOOO YOU NEED TO LIFT THIS HEAVY LIFT THIS WAY I'M NOT CHEATING
So much powershitter cope itt lmfao.
Post bench, small fry
Agree about powershitters and roids.
But if you're lifting for 20 years and you are strong because of it and much better looking and feeling than you otherwise would be, then why compare yourself to others.
Lifting is not some massive ordeal you expect to be "compensated" for, it's a few minutes at the gym every week working out. If you weren't lifting you would be forced to do more cardio anyway to feel right and healthy.