Yeah I dated a BPD girl back in college. It sucked and I’m sure I looked like an idiot, but through it all I gained experience and know what red flags to look for.
I’m sick and sedated the shit out of myself last night with NyQuil, melatonin, and ZMA. Slept for like 11 hours. Going to try going to the gym for the first time since Thursday.
I saw it now thanks for tagging it. Yes that sounds about right. Its about lovebombing you and then blaming you for their problems with no accountability for them. You're an accessory to the amazing story of their life that they are the hero in with literally no faults. If you stand up for yourself and they get violent that's another strong indicator. And threatening suicide is absolutely the one.
My trick now is to push back a few times on things and watch how they react. Nothing major but enough that I can get a sense for how they deal with problems. If they lash out or play communication games like waiting days to reply then its usually a good sign that they can't handle it. If they open up and discuss the issue and are interested in your side then yeah you're generally on the right track.
Its not about when they're happy and it certainly has nothing to do with what they say, its about when they're sad and feeling threatened and what they do with that.
Checked. Glad you saw it. >My trick now is to push back a few times on things and watch how they react. Nothing major but enough that I can get a sense for how they deal with problems…
Basically same. If she can have a real conversation about it, without doing the gaslight and blame game dance, actually hear me out instead of just hearing “YOU YOU YOU” but realize I’m not coming at them in any combative way just trying to resolve any problems and move forwards have a good solid relationship. THEN I’ll know there’s a chance.
Which for smaller shit I can personally okay, because most women cant take accountability anyways. But she needs to be able to act like an adult when it’s over something serious. >not about when they’re happy, it’s about when they’re sad and threatened
100%. When they’re happy they can be great to be around and interact with, normal even. Unfortunately that becomes rarer as time goes on with a BPD girl IME.
I wish I had a better way of articulating it in my own words other than they almost view you as an emotional punching bag and an object, but I think you said it perfectly >Its about lovebombing you and then blaming you for their problems with no accountability for them. You're an accessory to the amazing story of their life that they are the hero in with literally no faults
It’s crazy, you can present hard concrete evidence of what tehy did wrong, and very specifically explain “I am not mad at you and I’m not saying this to be judgmental or mean at all, but [this thing] wasn’t okay and it can’t happen if we’re going to be together, please do not do it again” and they respond with something to the effect of “you’re insecure/delusional/lying/made it up/that never happened why are you always so critical of me and belittling towards me.” And do the whole ignoring BS, acting like a complete bitch when they finally speak again and in my experience expecting an apology for daring set a boundary
Yeah I don't expect any woman to be fine all the time. The issue is that with BPD you're always on egg shells about anything because it's impossible for them to perceive you as a living thinking person, it's the epitome of main character syndrome. Fortunately you can teach yourself how to recognize it once you get your confidence back after their type wrecks you once or twice. I'm pretty thankful for the experience because I was able to respond to it and become a much stronger man, took shit loads of pain and self reflection but I feel that when the right woman comes along it's gonna be fireworks, until then I'm enjoying being able to weed out the psychos quickly and having the confidence to approach irl.
I gotta go deal with some stuff this afternoon but will check back on the discussion later. Good luck, it sounds like your senses are pretty well attuned for the nonsense.
I’m sick and sedated the shit out of myself last night with NyQuil, melatonin, and ZMA. Slept for like 11 hours. Going to try going to the gym for the first time since Thursday.
bros I finally slept with a woman after 24 years of being a khv, and I was her first too. I never thought I was going to make it, but now I think I might. This is so surreal
I want to have many sons and daughters but I don't want to be a father really. I look at my father and he's miserable. I don't want to be like him and spend time with my children. I want my sons to be independent though.
I'm 31 and a kissless virgin and can barely even take care of myself. The thought of being a father is beyond unfathomable for a loser like me. I cannot even comprehend how people can do it. I am so far beyond help from society.
[Spoiler] but I'm recently divorced and I have no idea how to re enter the dating world while working full time and having my son 50% of the time [/spoiler]
I had a x girlfriend with ptsd, but you guys talking about BPD, is what she is doing after we split, i saw her randomly the other day, she started crying said she missed me, still loved me blabla. and then i found out she was doing stuff on IG that she didn't post when we were together, and she just manipulates me and makes me feel like shit.
I remember you, I was the anon telling you to power through and consider stealth mode in public. Don’t forget my advice. Vent here, meditate, and Patrice O’Neal podcast clips. I’m also one of the anons talking about BPD exes in this chat because mine sent me a paragraph text today after years of silence blaming me for ruining her 20s somehow. Blocked her, doing best to keep my head up (it’s easy at this point), but the whole idea of BPD women is a curious one to me. I think it’s something all men need to be prepared for and know the signs of.
yeah it's me, i just need to talk about it. It's crazy that somebody can blame somebody for ruining years after they're done with the relationship, yeah i normally never dated girls with PTSD or BPD, this is the only time where i have gone months after a relationship and somehow feel worse after the things from the other day, than the whole aftermath after the break up.
Just keep in mind this was her goal. Probably same shit with mine. It’s an attempt at boosting their ego at the expense of us. Just consider what that is in simple terms. >I make you feel shitty, remind you we’re over, and evoke negative sad emotions from you, and in return I get to feel happy for all of five minutes
You shouldn’t feel nearly as shitty realizing that’s all it was, a weak persons attempt at feeling good about themselves.
But remember picrelated. It means your human. It means you are capable of meeting an actually worthwhile woman and having something incredible with her. The BPD exes, they can’t ever achieve that.
yeah you're right, it's for her a control thing, she has talked about losing control and after the abuse she faced as a young teenager, she now just need the "control" because she didn't have it when she was abused. So i kinda feel she's doing it also to feel control over me and i can't believe i didn't notice it before, so i could have ended things ages ago
I don't know how to have fun outside of my passion which is now my job, drawing and painting.
I don't enjoy "food", I don't enjoy travelling, specially traveling alone which I would have to do because I virtually have no friends. >Just go explore the world! Travel! live laugh love!
it's literally a hassle for me. I wish I was a normie
If you're passion is drawing and painting but you don't enjoy it as a job maybe it's because you feel pressured to perform and get paid over just enjoying the process?
I'm going into an art career path myself and I already made peace with how the workload is gonna be
Where do you find actually interesting, decent people? Do they even exist?
Everybody I know my age has psychological issue so severe it impacts their life, has drug problems, has absolutely 0 ambition to do anything life. Worst of all they are on a general downwards trajectory in every aspect.
And I feel like the people I know are still the among the better, mainly because they aren't social media addicted zombies.
I got my own problems and flaws, but at least I have fucking interests and I'm actively taking steps to improve my life, to learn and to become a better person. Everybody around me just seems to have given up.
>Where do you find actually interesting, decent people?
I met most of my friends on school and some guys clubbing actually. Work friends haven't sticked with me. >Everybody I know my age has psychological issue so severe it impacts their life, has drug problems,
None of my friends are perfect, some have a harder life than others, so I don't judge, all of them are good people in my book. >has absolutely 0 ambition to do anything life
Kek, you and I wouldn't be able to be friends. I have seen people with ambition either develop an insane ego and become lonely monsters or lose it and destroy their lives on the way down.
Most of the well balanced people I know are people with little to moderate ambition that takes things one step at a time or capitalized in one amazing oportunity and then spent time consolidating insted of searching for the same high.
I caught fucking COVID. This shit sucks. Its like a normal flu but I cant taste or smell anything, and also I feel like I am trapped in someones elses body
Just give me any drink I guess, I cant taste anyways
>Be me >18, college freshman, edgy depressed retard >Take shrooms >See my life from an outside perspective >Realize I don't hate life, I'm just bad at it >Begin an obsessive self-improvement routine >Lift >Study >Read and develop interesting hobbies >Teach myself to cook and eat healthy >Eight years later >Have a good, stable job >My own nice apartment and car >Huge library of books >In very good shape >Brute forced my autism into an ability to actually talk to people >Talk to them >They all fucking suck >I have nothing in common with anybody around me and they all bore the hell out of me >Just sit around by myself reading and lifting and cooking and writing all day
Some days I can be satisfied with myself, some days I just wish I had some real friends. It's been a long time.
Not op but did the same, if have the analytical flavor of the tism you can analyze yourself well and improve. You just have to beat your ego into submission and stop yourself from over analyzing. Change one thing then go do it again. If it works then great do more of that and find another thing to change, if it doesn't then try again. You can very easily make monumental change in the course of a year by subverting your ego and focusing on one little thing at a time. Suddenly you're sociable and can even utterly eclipse the normies who don't try to be better. You'll find your aren't that weird I'm the long run and can start opening up about your anxiety here and there. People enjoy it and open up to you because it makes you relatable. Then off of nowhere years later your forgot how god damn terrible you were at it and you become a bit more normie but with that edge of always being better. It's a nice place to be
not him, but I kept on trying to figure people out, after a while I could look at them and work out what they wanted me to say
have a dry, sardonic humour, that makes this easier
be pushy, but not too much, just make them interact with you, don't be silenced
work your brain very hard in social situations, analyze small clues and stuff in-flight, detect patterns of speech etc
don't say weird shit about naggers and anime and e-boi thighs and tazers
I feel as though this is what I’ve done my whole life. Observe and analyze others to learn, analyze myself and where I went wrong to improve. And still, I struggle immensely and can barely speak to people as damn near 30 year old man. Like a child trapped in an adults body. It’s like I can’t help but go all wide eyed and shit, I reflexively do this stupid compensating chest puffed out invisible lat syndrome posture and get teased for it often, literally cannot help it my body just does it and I can’t force back while doing anything social.
A combination of numbers (to build confidence), having an interesting background (to steer conversations away from "what's your major" type shit), and genuinely paying attention to the people you're talking to (so that you can engage with them instead of repeating some retarded line you heard on the internet).
Go practice someplace where you don't know anybody. Have like two drinks, pick a girl that you DON'T want to sleep with, and just have a conversation with her. After a couple minutes of that, find an excuse to walk away and pick another one. Don't get their numbers and don't take them home. Make them laugh and then never speak to them again.
I don’t really have much to share about myself. I spend time in nature all alone, I enjoy animals and taking pics of the creatures I encounter. And that’s really it. It makes me sound like a retarded child who spends his time with animals because they’re not as mean as humans. All I do other than that is lift, vidya, anime. Nothing really interests me.
And I’m not a total loser either I’ve somehow managed to get laid a few times by concealing my autism just enough and getting the right balance of quiet and reserved that I come off as shy or mysterious. But the few girls I’ve dated, as soon as I get comfortable and let the real me out they immediately lose interest and realize “oh shit this dude is autistic wtf”. >make them laugh never speak to them again
This isn’t bad advice. Unfortunately I’m just not there yet. I’ve gone to bars by myself a few times and I awkwardly sat there pretended to scroll my phone, pretended to be into the basketball games that were on, then finished 1-2 beers and immediately left. Each time a cute solo girl, either finishing her shift nearby as a regular there or whatever, has come and say right next to me. Glanced at me, did the shut they do when they want you to talk to them. And I couldn’t. I couldn’t make sound come out, knowing how autistic I am and get so in my head I can’t. I have nothing to offer to a conversation.
not him, but I kept on trying to figure people out, after a while I could look at them and work out what they wanted me to say
have a dry, sardonic humour, that makes this easier
be pushy, but not too much, just make them interact with you, don't be silenced
work your brain very hard in social situations, analyze small clues and stuff in-flight, detect patterns of speech etc
don't say weird shit about naggers and anime and e-boi thighs and tazers
And yeah I like this anons point and what to talk about. The Greek classics are a great place to start. I'm also obsessed with impressionist art and do sculpture myself. It's basically an endless font of things to talk about if you find the right people, if all they want to talk about is pop culture then just use them for practice and move on to the next person to talk to. Also genuinely listen to people and what they're saying, don't plan your next words until they say something you want to know more about or share an anecdote from your life. They'll key you in eventually and then you can go ham in that direction. You can learn so much from people you talk to, but you need to actually listen.
That’s another problem. I do have many interests, but nothing I’ve driven deep enough info to make any real conversation about. And I know better at this point than to say “I’m super interested in X thing” when I don’t have any depth to add beyond that.
Like, I’d love to learn all about various history, art history and creating my own art (painting, drawing/sketching, sculptures etc), photography, music & learning instruments (bass, guitar, some horn instrument like trumpet or whatever, drums all sound fun to me), etc etc
Yet that’s a whole other issue I have is consistency. I struggle to be consistent with just lifting as is. I may occasionally spend all of 15 minutes in one of those interests before not touching it for another 18 months. If I could fix that problem, and have some depth to myself to share in convos I think I could be more confident in socializing at least to some significant extent.
I think it flows both ways. Don't wait for an interesting life to start socializing and don't wait to start living an interesting life until you're social. They go hand in hand and you can end up enjoying both and improving at both. Find one thing you're passionate about and put in some time and attend events etc. Learn it well but you don't have to master it. Cut out nonsense like video games and marvel movies and learn anything that requires mastery of your mind and body linked together. Then pursue something related, find the connections between the two things and be able to express them. You'll end up being a deep well of experiences before you know it.
>analyze small clues and stuff in-flight, detect patterns of speech etc
Forgot to mention, it’s so weird I feel like I’m both a master at this and a total novice in how I put it into practice. I could observe others talking and tell you who’s thinking/planning what who’s lying who feels what way etc…
But when it comes to me actually being involved, I just can’t. It’s like I get stage fright. When I have managed to speak it just gets awkward because I’m too in my own head. The times I’ve accidentally stumbled into convo shit went normal until I realized what was happening, then I started averting my gaze couldn’t eye contact, voice got horse and high pitched at the same time somehow, went panic mode and noped out.
A combination of numbers (to build confidence), having an interesting background (to steer conversations away from "what's your major" type shit), and genuinely paying attention to the people you're talking to (so that you can engage with them instead of repeating some retarded line you heard on the internet).
Go practice someplace where you don't know anybody. Have like two drinks, pick a girl that you DON'T want to sleep with, and just have a conversation with her. After a couple minutes of that, find an excuse to walk away and pick another one. Don't get their numbers and don't take them home. Make them laugh and then never speak to them again.
Yep short and sweet is the way to keep it. Leave then wanting more and suddenly you're the mysterious stranger that came through their life. Don't get attached, just sit listen and learn from them and thank them for sharing part of their life with you if they really open up. Then leave a little sooner than what seems socially acceptable with a smile and a kind word and don't stare awkwardly at them at any point for the rest of the time you're there. Just move on or enjoy a quiet moment then rinse repeat. Works like a charm once you get it down and if you see them again give them a smile and an ask a follow up question from something they told you. If you really have the tism you'll remember and they'll be amazed you cared to ask. Then you can talk a bit longer this time. Suddenly you have friends, the advanced tier of socializing is introducing me friends to each other. Then it snowballs and you become a social guru. This may take years but eventually you just do it by nature.
How to act >speak clearly in concise sentences, don't ramble, don't interupt and don't let yourself be interupted >make eye contact when you talk to people >hands out of your pockets, use your hands to emphasize when you speak, don't fiddle with random shit >smile more and generally stop hiding behind an emotionless facade, this is creepy especially to women
What to say >when talking people you know ask them about something they told you about their life last time you spoke: "how was the exam?", "how is your injury?", "how was the concert". showing you remember basic things about someones life is THE most important lifehack in how to get people to like you. >genuinely be interested in them. focus on what they are saying, ask non intrusive questions about their life that aren't just extracting information
General >live a life worth talking about. if you have no hobbies, no interests and no achievements you will feel awkward because any honest conversation will reveal what a loser you are >just ignore your awkwardness and pretend everyone is your best friend. social interactions are based on subconscious clues. if you project feeling awkward, they will feel awkward
>>just ignore your awkwardness and pretend everyone is your best friend. social interactions are based on subconscious clues. if you project feeling awkward, they will feel awkward
i read somewhere that 2 years of picking up females will put you a head of almost all men. cause picking up chicks requires lots of little social things that you learn and can only be learned when you do pick up. i noticed this in my interactions. Gone is the monkey man shit/i hope she likes me that most men do. I see it almost all the time. males are in mixed group and male always does things to make girls laugh or to keep their attention. Whether you like it or not, i think its essential for all young men to take some time to learn how to legit get good with females and not just settle for any girl that comes their way for betabux.
having tight game is essential to your wellbeing but ignorance is bliss too. like you dont think youre a pussy and everything until you start pickin up chicks. if you dont pick up chicks, nothing is brought to the surface and you might think your hot shit. like "shit why didnt i do that or why didnt i say that." the average man doenst even bother to reflect on that and its not brought to the surface so every interaction with a female is playing it safe and the "i hope she likes me" mindset ruins almost every man.
>don't let yourself be interupted
How. I’ve tried to continue talking as if they never tried and everyone will tune me out and listen to them, they won’t stop either and just do it back as if I’m the one who interrupted. Even when it’s one on one they just do it and if I keep going until I’m done speaking they completely ignore me. In one of two ways >they do subs peaking first, ignore me as I finish, then expect me to respond to what they said while interrupting me
Tried telling people “what you said something? Oh I didn’t realize I didn’t even hear you, I was mid sentence” to try and train it out of them/teach them not to do that but it doesn’t work they keep doing it. >I finish first, ignore them until they finish
And same shit.
I really feel it’s a matter of respect. I think it’s because I need to cut, it didn’t happen as much when I was leaner.. actually if it did happen what I tried above worked now that I think about it. >eye contact
I’m working on it. Trying to force myself to focus on breathing slowly while I force myself to star at peoples eyes. I get anxious because I have this OCD thing where I stare/glance at peoples mouths and it’s obvious and I don’t want them to think I’m like trying to kiss them or something, that's my biggest issue idk how to get around it. Maybe I just embrace it and let it happen so it stops? Would it stop? Idk… >everything else you said here pocket hands creepy face
I got that down at least
Saving your post I’ll try to put the rest “what to say” and “general” into practice. Thank you
>>don't let yourself be interupted
again game and picking up chicks will help u. cause when youre with a group of girls, the not as attractive girls will always be jealous and try to cockblock u or the chick. Sometimes other men will butt in cause when you approach the chicks, you literally made every man in the area a cuck because obviously all men noticed the chicks but were too pussy to even say hi. constantly gaming will help u over come this but sometimes its better to just get a number and dip.
It’s not even in settings like that, it’s normal settings with friends I had in the past, some of the girls I dated would do it every time I opened my mouth, just causal settings is where it occurred the most. I once cut all my friends off and called everyone out just a simple “HAHAHA can you please stop interrupting me? This is the 30th time you’ve done it since I got here an hour ago.” when one dudes GF kept doing it to talk about stupid shit and everyone looked at me like I was crazy, stared in silence as I finished, then looked back to that friends GF and asked her to please continue talking about how much she loves sitting on her ass collecting unemployment for the 300th time(it’s all she fucking talked about ever same story every time).
Obviously those may have just been shitty friends and me getting bitchy about it wasn’t the way either. I no longer speak to those people for a variety of other reasons. But I’m lost on this man. I’m not at a level where I can practice gaming women. Imagine I was an artificial adult human created yesterday who has to learn to socialize… the most basic beginner level.. can barely even talk to cashiers and store clerks.
>then expect me to respond to what they said while interrupting me
literally yell "dont interupt me!"
who cares? and who are you talking to? its a game.
It’s not even in settings like that, it’s normal settings with friends I had in the past, some of the girls I dated would do it every time I opened my mouth, just causal settings is where it occurred the most. I once cut all my friends off and called everyone out just a simple “HAHAHA can you please stop interrupting me? This is the 30th time you’ve done it since I got here an hour ago.” when one dudes GF kept doing it to talk about stupid shit and everyone looked at me like I was crazy, stared in silence as I finished, then looked back to that friends GF and asked her to please continue talking about how much she loves sitting on her ass collecting unemployment for the 300th time(it’s all she fucking talked about ever same story every time).
Obviously those may have just been shitty friends and me getting bitchy about it wasn’t the way either. I no longer speak to those people for a variety of other reasons. But I’m lost on this man. I’m not at a level where I can practice gaming women. Imagine I was an artificial adult human created yesterday who has to learn to socialize… the most basic beginner level.. can barely even talk to cashiers and store clerks.
I know at least 75% of the issue there was those were genuine scumbags who weren’t my real friends (same dude is texting me every week since I left them behind crying that he hates her and made a mistake hates his life). Like, if I had a gf I would ignore her to listen to what my friend was saying, or I would be the one to speak up on his behalf. I’ve done that in the past with a GF and a different friend.
Gettin gmeotionsl just doesn’t help… idk that this is the move I just really think if I’m not being respected at a basic level I have to cut those people off or withdrawal my presence from their life
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you will get a head of them cause now youre actually practising moves. you ditched that group and with your next group you can start practising. say what you want and do what you want and dont try to be smooth. theres more than enough males and females in this world. and its good you care and moved on. people never change.
Eventually you'll meet them. Most of them are in your position, so they stay indoors and improoooove rather than going outside.
You need to get used to the idea that you're no longer looking to make friends with literally anyone you meet (that comes later when you're so uber emotionally mature that you see the good in everybody) but actually more like the 1-5% of people you seriously vibe with and can imagine being friends with in the long term. If you think about it, creating a serious friendship with every twentieth or thirtieth person you meet is actually doable and very rewarding. Then those people introduce you to more people, and soon you're going to parties and meeting girls and stuff. Then later you can start being that chad who everyone likes and you can strike up a decent convo with anyone you're introduced to. Baby steps. You're at a crossroads: one direction is you get serious about meeting people and develop a decent friend circle over a year or two. The other direction is you just give up and start swerving off into a loser autist self-improoovement trip. Back in 2011-12, SwoleShack used to call it "cocoon mode" and it was common knowledge that you can't allow it to start seeming like a permanent situation because that way lies hikkikomorihood.
Look around you on this board: it's easy to tell who stayed the course and who went off the rails. These guys wind up so bitter, convinced that everyone they know sucks and especially end up absolutely hating women with an unhealthy passion. /LULZ/ syndrome, except with muscles.
Believe in yourself enough that you can have fun no matter who you're with, and you'll start believing in them too. Best of luck, bro.
Yeah that's a great point. People prone towards autism and/or inceldom think that intelligence is understanding math, but its not only that. Intelligence takes on many forms and until you realize that you'll think everyone you meet is stupid.
Many are, yes but you wouldn't recognize me in a bar as being aggressively intelligent and yet I'm a well-paid consultant completing an MS/MBA next semester from literally the top school in the world for a hard STEM field with a less than 5% acceptance rate.
You'll be often surprised and sometimes blown away by people if you listen a bit and ask a good question with the goal of understanding who they are. One woman at my gym is 50 and dying of a horrible heart condition, her suffering and the way she handles it is beyond amazing to me. She obsesses over the stoics and the lessons we learn from Greek tragedy about being human and can share it in a way that changes your soul for the better. You'd never guess it but she's changed my life and was literally just a random hello. Many such cases.
>Many are, yes but you wouldn't recognize me in a bar as being aggressively intelligent and yet I'm a well-paid consultant completing an MS/MBA next semester from literally the top school in the world for a hard STEM field with a less than 5% acceptance rate.
I'm in a similar position specifically for ML engineering, and most people in my university treat me like an idiot or are intimidated unless they get to know me. I've had people at parties accuse me of lying to them when I truthfully tell them about myself. Of course it feels nice not to look like a /stem/cel, but at the end of the day I feel like I don't fit in anywhere. I don't fit in at university, I definitely don't consider myself part of lifting culture and I feel out of place when drinking with my party friends.
Most people find one thing in life to focus on and identify with. Career, hobbies, music interest, pop culture, whatever. It's like whereever I go I present only a fraction of myself whereas other people throw their entire life into one aspect. This makes my life more interesting for myself, but makes it hard to connect to people if you never really belong to their ingroup.
I emphasized this a couple times last thread, that's why you make your own group. Many people feel the same way and you can become the bridge that connects them, you just have to take the actions to make yourself that person and make the sacrifices that will require too. But the rewards IMO are worth it.
Yeah that's a great point. People prone towards autism and/or inceldom think that intelligence is understanding math, but its not only that. Intelligence takes on many forms and until you realize that you'll think everyone you meet is stupid.
Many are, yes but you wouldn't recognize me in a bar as being aggressively intelligent and yet I'm a well-paid consultant completing an MS/MBA next semester from literally the top school in the world for a hard STEM field with a less than 5% acceptance rate.
You'll be often surprised and sometimes blown away by people if you listen a bit and ask a good question with the goal of understanding who they are. One woman at my gym is 50 and dying of a horrible heart condition, her suffering and the way she handles it is beyond amazing to me. She obsesses over the stoics and the lessons we learn from Greek tragedy about being human and can share it in a way that changes your soul for the better. You'd never guess it but she's changed my life and was literally just a random hello. Many such cases.
>lol i was a depressed edgy retard and now i think i'm the greatest person on earth, im so smart and well read and so much better than everyone, im very highly paid and finishing a masters and mba at the top school in the world at a very hard STEM degree because of how smar ti am
>lol everyone i have ever talked to are so boring, i hate everyone, everyone is so dumb and stupid and can never match my intellect
jager on ice
asked a girl out today for the first time in 3 months or so, she said yes
stopped lifing for the most part, doing calisthenics and weekend tours to become lean
this cold-wet weather is killing me I hate it
Most of the board is just spammed to shit, so I'm going to ask for advice here.
I've only been working out for a month doing an Upper/Lower split. I'm criminally underweight, but I'm already gaining mass and seeing results. However I'm not sure if the split I'm doing is very good.
Upper days take me like 1h and 45mins to complete and lower days just destroy me even if they're shorter. I can barely manage 2 upper and 1 lower days within 1 week. I did upper on Monday and lower on Tuesday and only yesterday did I feel the soreness fully pass in my upper body and I can still feel some in my legs. I'm going to do upper tommorow and lower on Tuesday just to compare how long it will take for the soreness to pass this week.
Is this normal for a noob? Motorcycle chick is my payment for some answers.
whats your workout? you want mass? so i assume ur doing 5x5 or something. those get tiring really quick cause youre doing like 5x5 for 3 different exercises right? the strength comes fast if youre eating lots. so within like 3-9 months you can plateau.
whats your workout? you want mass? so i assume ur doing 5x5 or something. those get tiring really quick cause youre doing like 5x5 for 3 different exercises right? the strength comes fast if youre eating lots. so within like 3-9 months you can plateau.
Eh, for upper, I threw it together myself so it's pretty random but it's pretty much this:
Dumbbell bench press, shoulder press, pec flies, lat pulldown, cable row, lat raises, dumbbell curls, tricep pressdown and shrugs.
I try going 4x8 on reps.
I feel like I'm doing way too much shit in a single day when doing upper and I'm wondering if a PPL split would be better, even if I did it just 3 times a week in the beginning.
You're a month in bro. The soreness is normal, that's the DOMS. It goes away for the most part after you stick with it for a few months. Just make sure you're eating enough and getting plenty of rest.
I'll take a beer or some white wine in a beer glass.
The woman I'm dating started out as a chill freak in the sheets, but now just wants to fight over shit nonstop. She litterally picks the slightest thing to blow up over and then we fight for two days, makeup for 3-4 and start all over. The last one she went full nuclear talking about other dudes sex names for her in the past and shit to get under my skin. At this point, I'm kinda done, but outside of those times when she blows up she's amazing. She buys me shit nonstop, she came by while I was at work and deep cleaned my kitchen, she'll wake me up with a blowjob, etc. I don't want to deal with hunting and early stage dating anymore Cuz I'm about to be 31, but idk if I can keep doing this.
I'm mostly carnivore, but for the opposite goal of weight gaining. I gained 15 lbs of muscle doing mostly aerobic workouts (surfing), and didn't have any significant fat to lose. Maybe you are losing fat and gaining weight at the same time?
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Most of the board is just spammed to shit, so I'm going to ask for advice here.
I've only been working out for a month doing an Upper/Lower split. I'm criminally underweight, but I'm already gaining mass and seeing results. However I'm not sure if the split I'm doing is very good.
Upper days take me like 1h and 45mins to complete and lower days just destroy me even if they're shorter. I can barely manage 2 upper and 1 lower days within 1 week. I did upper on Monday and lower on Tuesday and only yesterday did I feel the soreness fully pass in my upper body and I can still feel some in my legs. I'm going to do upper tommorow and lower on Tuesday just to compare how long it will take for the soreness to pass this week.
Is this normal for a noob? Motorcycle chick is my payment for some answers.
Chronically underweight male here, trying to bulk on a low carb diet due to other issues. What are you doing to gain mass? Is there any right time of the day to eat?
I failed my 130kg 1rm bench again today. Although this time it was a good fail, as in I tried my best to push if off, when last week my spotter grabbed the bar too early which made me think I might have had it.
I hit my goal weight last year, and because of emotional binge eating, I've yo-yo'd back. I know that I'm at fault for this. It sucks, and I have to try again.
I really like my current job, but I think I’ll have to quit and find a new one because I’m not making enough money. I’m still in college and I’m splitting half the tuition cost with my parents but my current job (janitor) is making pennies. I make between $65-77 a week because I only work two shifts and if I want more work I have to keep the job app open and keep an eye on the available work channel 24/7 while also competing with other people.
I really hate it, this is the first job I’ve had that I genuinely enjoyed, but I don’t know what else to do at this point. I’m just losing money and it’s stressing me out.
>Didn’t put a ring on it after 6 years
Doomed to fail. Why do people date for so long before getting married? If you weren’t certain about her after year two at the latest, then a break up was inevitable.
"being together" isn't inherently different when you're married or not. A ring doesn't change their commitment to you.
"Should have married her bro!" would just as easily be "Sorry to hear about the divorce bro".
All marriage is is government recognition.
>spent the last hour wrecking some liberal israelite masquerading as a conservative on tiktok so bad about the reality of Israel vs Palestine being a genocide by literal definition (wasn’t even arguing in defense for either side) that he made a fake account to double reply to me and is currently attempting to dox me, replied to me with one of my neighbors name
Lol oops
I'm dealing with a serious family situation and I have been feeling really depressed and haven't check on my girl for a few days except to tell her that I wasn't in the mood to meet her and talk but it wasn't her fault
After that she texted me a few days later to ask me if I prefer that we "take a pause" until I recover
I was absolutely furious for a while then I was just let down on how quickly at the first serious shit that i'm dealing with she just want to get rid of me instead of waiting for me to ger better or to actually help
I don't think we will last much longer
How long have you been with this girl? Does she even know what’s going on? If you’re just ignoring her for days on end without asking for support or communicating your needs, or even describing what you’re dealing with, it’s reasonable for her to think you just want space and possibly a break from the relationship.
I've been with her for 1 year and half and she knows what's going on I already told her that I just need a little time alone and she started to ask "how long one week one month...?" like a need a deadline to deal with my problems
I'm not playing with her but since she already showed in the past that she can't handle me when i'm in a bad state I simply don't feel like being around her in days like this
Need career advice.
How would one get into research and development of high performance vehicles (racing, heavy duty, defense & aerospace, etc.) with no prior engineering experience? I considered trade school for auto/diesel/heavy machinery, but that seems off. I can't afford to get another bachelor's so I'd be willing to teach myself mech engineering from scratch, starting with the basic maths. Any other suggestions? >t. late 20s sperg with business degree and improving work ethic
University. Bachelors and then Masters degree in mechanical engineering, specializing in the field you want to go in. There is no alternative. Trades do not even begin to touch the surface of engineering. You could theoretically find the resources and information yourself, but it's not realistic and nobody is gonna hire you for an engineering position without a degree
Any anons living with Type 2 Diabetes? Getting checked out by an endo for a confirmation soon since my family history and all my symptoms point towards it being my illness.
I just want to be big again, but from what it looks like even if I'm put on something like metformin my diet will have to radically change to even approach normalcy again.
I was looking into keto to try and fix it, or at least make it more manageable. Just sucks I'd have to significantly reduce my intake of stuff like whole milk and fatty steaks
>Gradschool will take half a year to finish >Parents kicked me out of the house for no other reason but to learn to put myself up by the bootstraps (not even joking) >Have two other jobs on the side to afford living with the bare minimum >Live in a shared rental with three foreign people who don't even speak my language >One of the guys genunely hates my guts, but acts super passive aggressive and gives me extreme paranoid thoughts about him killing me in my sleep >Would like a gf, sometimes I try to strike up a conversation in the gym or when I go out but it feels super awkward, like they don't even want to have a normal conversation when I try
I would say focus on getting tf out of that shared rental, if you can't sleep safely and without worrying about some homosexual shanking you. In the hierarchy of needs a safe environment is one of the most important.
>ghosted again
The cycle never ends bros.
Meet girl -> interested -> talk -> ghosted at some point -> get over it by consuming copious amounts of alcohol and drugs -> fuck a sloot or two -> return to normalcy for some time -> repeat
Maybe you're just not interesting enough bro but >Drinking and doing drugs because some whore ignores you
That's just sad man, you need to have more self respect. Value yourself more
I just fucking wish I could actually do shit that is related to my major instead of taking material science and circuits courses. I can't believe i failed for the ME meme
>failed NNN just now >dick was so sensitive that just pulling the skin taut was enough to bust
although 5 days is the longest I've gone without jacking off all year I'm pretty sure it's still extremely disappointing
I'm gonna keep pushing myself to completely move away from porn though, hate this feeling of sloth after cumming it fucks my whole motivational drive
Got word my cat died just before hitting the gym. She walked with me as I was leaving and always waited on me when I got home and walked to the house with me. Rough day fellas.
Old fashioned with templeton.
I’m turning 29 soon and I haven’t been on a date in over 5 years, haven’t gotten laid in over three years, my parents are getting older and I have no answer for having kids. I don’t even know where women are, all the bitches on tinder are fat, not White, covered in tattoos, or have kids. I’m also a fat alcoholic with no friends. Idk what to do at this point, just work, go home, drink until I pass out, and then do it all again. And everything is expensive now, I want out bros
Im like you bro…
Just leave her trust me it won’t get better. After some time you just start lying about finding her attractive, loving her and force yourself to cum during sex. It’s exhausting
>Start of the year, new woman starts working in my office >Cute as hell, infectious smile, bubbly personality >Don't think I've got a chance but I just make small talk, be polite etc. >She eventually comes past my desk to start conversations with me, always smiles, offers to pick me up when my car broke down >Run into her one night when she was out with friends and I was going for a night walk, we have a few drinks and go back to her place >Have sex and it's fucking great, instant chemistry >I catch feelings hard because she's just gorgeous and amazing to be around >Grab lunch together every day, go for coffee breaks, she sneaks hugs in at work when no one is around >I start going to the gym because she's a 10/10 and I'm a fat retard >We see each other for a few months >All of a sudden she stops replying to my messages, gets cold at work, doesn't talk to me much anymore >Have no idea what the fuck I did wrong >Find out she's been casually seeing someone else
This happened a few months ago now. I figured I'd get over her quick but for some reason she's always in my head. The only upside is I've been going to the gym more to try and distract myself, and in 5 months I've gone from 25% bf down to around 13%~ and feel great physically.
But I still have to see her every day and it's killing me because I'm a fucking retard.
holy fuck naggers, I just approached the cute metal head girl I keep seeing around my neighborhood, who has a giant ass.
>wake up and have breakie >got to my balcony >see her walking down the street >oh fug it's her! >quickly put a jacket on and head down there >approach her from the back (no ideal) and softly say:" escuse me" >she's startled obviously( I'm 6'0 and she must've been like 5'2) >I've see you around a few times and thought you were cute can I get your number perhaps? >*Smiles* eh yeah sure >I'm nervous and I call her phone for some reason lol >realize I haven't asked her name like the fcking spazz I am >uh sorry I didn't get your name! >Joana >I'm anon. >she tells me she's moved here because of Uni etc and I tell her we can grab coffee sometime!
It's been a while since I've cold approached, damn I feel alive lol.
That fucking works? How do you do that without coming off as retarded? Is a girl's attractiveness a valid reason for just approaching her?
Every time I've cold approached a girl on a street(day time only) I've gotten their numbers.I'm not Giga chad at all, just 6'0, and probably 6/10, 7 on a good day perhaps. > How do you do that without coming off as retarded?
I've always come off as nervous and retarded, but I don't think they care, as long as you tell them they are pretty, and be genuine. Complements are like an EMP to women, they automatically lower their defenses and their faces light up. We live in an age of E-simps who will comment their IG's, but how many dudes will go up to them and actually tell them they are pretty? > Is a girl's attractiveness a valid reason for just approaching her?
so yeah of course it's a good enough reason, women aren't that stupid and I'd rather cut the chase and be blunt. Women know their main asset in dating IS their looks. DOn't be a pig( nice ass bitch!) but also don't be a prude nice guy ( I love your sweater!).
I'm about the same, only 6'2 and a lot less experience with women. I feel as though I could never be so blunt, but I'm lonelier than ever right now so I might try this, fuck it. Good luck with the metal head anon.
Acting retarded is often a successful practice. As long as it's confident. If you wrote her a secret admirer letter instead of just walking up to her, then that probably backfires.
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Every time I've cold approached a girl on a street(day time only) I've gotten their numbers.I'm not Giga chad at all, just 6'0, and probably 6/10, 7 on a good day perhaps. > How do you do that without coming off as retarded?
I've always come off as nervous and retarded, but I don't think they care, as long as you tell them they are pretty, and be genuine. Complements are like an EMP to women, they automatically lower their defenses and their faces light up. We live in an age of E-simps who will comment their IG's, but how many dudes will go up to them and actually tell them they are pretty? > Is a girl's attractiveness a valid reason for just approaching her?
so yeah of course it's a good enough reason, women aren't that stupid and I'd rather cut the chase and be blunt. Women know their main asset in dating IS their looks. DOn't be a pig( nice ass bitch!) but also don't be a prude nice guy ( I love your sweater!).
Oh hell yeah man, my advice is don't hold back or she'll think you're a pussy
Eh, maybe she's busy. Forget about her and focus on other girls and if she texts back tomorrow, great! Go smash that big booty goth gf for SwoleShack anon. If not, that's OK, plenty of hot chicks out there.
Just give me some water. I'm tired but not tired enough but that's good I guess. Well, work and the gym are keeping me afloat and focused, haven't missed a workout in months,
so much so that depression has waned a bit.
That said I'm gonna be very honest: being ugly sucks and I don't really recommend it to anybody, I feel like I'm utterly invisible to women and it hurts pretty bad, man. I refuse to use dating apps - don't think I'd do good, anyway - and it's been over a year since I had went out with somebody... funny how fast time goes by.
I'm socially retarded wizard (and probably on autism spectrum) who has never hugged a girl.
Prostitution is legal here. Would you go for it or what would your advice be?
I'm scared of pushing.. last time it happened I got myself an hemorrhoid.
For fucks sake, I drank more liquids, I did more exercise and I ate a lot less cheese..
I’ve been working out to the point that my gains have become pretty apparent and most of my friends have noticed it. Yet almost none of them are saying anything to me about it. I’ll hear from a friend that other people were talking about how much bigger I look. I wonder why they don’t tell me.
Lost 130lbs over a few years, felt like shit and it was all for nothing.
Joined a gym. Working out for six months. Gained little strength, no muscle, lost no more weight. Can't keep to a calorie deficit. Even if I eat right all day I ruin it before bedtime with binge eating or drinking.
The whole thing seems futile. Even if I worked out properly, ate right and lose weight, I have so much loose skin I'm always going to look like shit.
People lie and say exercise is good for depression. Lying fucks. Probably going to do myself in on my 40th birthday (currently 38yo khhv). My whole life has been a total waste of time.
Anons who live alone and pay rent, what % of your monthly income is your rent and how much do you pay?
For those paying close to 50% of monthly towards rent, how do you manage?
I’m highly contemplating just sucking it up and struggling being very frugal the next 3-5 years until pay raises kick in, barely scraping by and slowly burning my savings away. I have many reasons for this. I might give it one more year to save a bit more and then do it.
>work in fast food, have for 7 years >fucking despise it >25, still don't have my license >starting uni next year >have enough money saved up to pay my rent/bills for at least 4 months without concern >considering quitting fast food >using time off to get license sorted >getting job at a grocery store to tide me over until graduation
Thoughts on this, brahs? >iwhy no license
Never had friends to teach me, mom had cancer and driving with her was too dangerous, I'm in a new city but have absolute no relationships here but I can afford some hours of driving training and I'm comfortable enough behind the wheel, I just need real experience and some fine-tuning.
Do NOT quit until you have the next job lined up, completely guaranteed and secured. Getting a job right now, even some shitty grocery store wagecuck, is not as easy as it should be. I’m struggling to find work right now myself and I’m trying to get a grocery stocked job to hold me over until I figure out the next job. I have a multi year gap on my resume.
the more I think about it the more I want to quit tbh
I'd even be willing to take a server position at a restaurant which I know shouldn't be too difficult to get as there's a shitload near me, obviously that isn't too much better than fast food but at least I won't have middle-aged rotting women screaming in my ear about window times at a restaurant
and if I'm lucky I can make friends with a bartender and segue into bartending, as all my work experience happens to be as a """barista""" so drinks feel like a logical next step
my mcjob is making me wanna eat a mcbarrel at this point
I think I just wanted validation but stressing about it for the past 8 hours has given me some clarity
Listen dude I mcknow what you mcmean and it totally mcblows. But I wish I didn’t leave my last job until I had one lined up, because the gap in employment has only gotten bigger and bigger. Which was never an issue in the past I always got a new job within weeks. Combine being unemployed with a car wreck and I’m broke now. I hope I get accepted at one of these stocker jobs.
Btw, yeah get a driver teacher for a couple months or however long you need. I did that at age 18 because driving with my mom in the car was horrible, she would scream at the top of her lungs and freak out for no reason so I couldn’t learn with her. It was a big help, got my license like a month later only needed a few lessons.
>gf cheated >we broke up >already dating some other guy a month later
she disrespected me and shit all over my heart but i still feel like i want to kill the other guy. jesus man, i don’t understand it. she picked a hookup over our relationship, ruined it, and i still would kill for her love and attention. are women aware of this? do they understand the obsessive and often borderline lengths that men will go through in order to win their love? she’s riding the cock carousel and im being pozzed by a therapist so i dont an hero. why are women so heartless bro? apologies for drunk rambles, i think ill take a water
Let this be a lesson to never take women seriously again. And I know when you get close and bond with one it’s hard to view them as anything but amazing. But it’s best to take them with a grain of salt.
I wish I wasn’t like this, and I admit it’s semi autistic, but every time I interact with a woman, whether it’s dating or a friends Gf or some cashier, all I can think is “you are helpless.” Like, “this society is your backbone and without it you are helpless, you would immediately and subconsciously revert to sucking cock to survive if society collapsed and shit hit the fan. You couldn’t fend for yourself or survive alone, only by being carried by a man, who you would undoubtedly act in line for out of sheer submissiveness to avoid being cast aside. You would fuck him, clean, cook etc. and maybe only betray him if a stronger survivor came along and had no bitches of his own.”
Is how I feel and view them, and I wish I didn’t. I wish I just saw them as other humans but they are anything but human.
(Btw, how fucked is that that even in some post apocalyptic world they still wouldn’t be perfectly loyal)
Next woman, just take her with a grain of salt and vet her properly before developing deep feelings. Which I know isn’t fool proof, you could do that and perhaps you did with this one, and she could still betray you. I wish I had some better words to offer you, but my point is I get it dude. They’re pathetic. >obligatory to not sound like a total incel
It’s not all of them, just most. The goal is finding one of the few who are real people.
i checked her story today. it was supposed to be our 5 year anniversary and shes posting pictures of him and their drinks, like they’re celebrating something. i hate her so much bro and i hate myself for loving her. she doesnt deserve it and no amount of autistic rationalization and resolve can keep me from loving her. i feel like a swanton bomb from a bridge would hurt less than i am right now. i wanna do it but i know one day i will get “better”. i won’t ever get over her because she was my first love but i will be able to maybe make it through the day without feeling random bouts of depression, anger, and misery. i took off a whole week from work for our anniversary so ive done nothing but drink and lay in my own misery, havent even worked out. nobody is coming to help me and i dont have the strength to help myself. i considered myself le stoic with autistic indifference but this woman has completely destroyed me and turned me into a little bitch
stop looking at your phone all the time pussy, like why make yourself upset over a woman, they are basically toddlers who shouldnt be trusted with your emotions
Anon this is a testament to 2 things
1.)you were the better person and are capable of love and building a relationship
2.)she (obviously) is the one whos fucked in the head and will never have a good relationship. Shes doing it to hurt you.
Stop viewing her stories. Honestly, block everywhere. That is the only way. Look at this text my nut job ex from 2016 sent me. She blames me for her mistakes and damn near a decade later is accusing me of all the things she did to me. Zero accountability, and your ex sounds similar. Just stay with me here: my point is that this is a miserable stupid ass bitch. And she is miserable because she has hurt people and wronged people and refuses to take an ounce of accountability which is what’s needed for us to grow and become happy. That will be your ex one day, a grumpy dumbass miserable cunt blaming everyone but herself for her own fuck ups. So in other words, you already won. You A.) got rid of a piece of shit for cheap and B.) are on the path to healing and eventually being happy again, even if it sucks now.
To reiterate, grey rock her block everywhere delete contacts. Then focus on you. Expend this energy improving in any area you want, need, or can improve in. When you feel like shit is when its most important to work on these things (money, health, fizeek, spiritual etc). Don’t date for a few months, but only give yourself 2-3 months. After that you MUST put yourself back out there again. You will find that once you fuck a new girl you’ll feel a little better, and when you meet a new girl and have a new relationship youll realize “oh shit I was so silly a year ago, being sad over some disloyal cunt who could only offer me the gash between her legs like any other bitch… I CAN meet new women, better women and I can have something better than what I had with her.” You won’t fully get that until you experience it but once you do you’ll just know and feel it to your core. The only way is forward man.
Yeah dude it’s way worse too, I could write like 10 max character posts here telling you all the shit she’s done while still trying to keep it concise.
I assume you’re not the anon I replied to, but I am in some way grateful to have met that bitch and had those horrible experiences. It’s helped me be prepared to not waste my time in the future and to know the signs of a BPD early on, it’s also given me a healthy level of standards in the women I choose.
>Cutting scars >Tons of tattoos
(a bitch does get more than 2, not to mention over 10, tattoos for no reason) >Hairstyle changing often
(weird colors, going bald, when black the going bald is a huge one bigger deal than a white bitch doing it because black bitches hair grows slower and most of them can’t grow long hair, also when black the style changing is hit or miss if she wore fake hair already that’s normal for them) >Black >Has issues with and fights with her mother often
(this has been consistent with every crazy bitch I’ve met not just the ones I’ve dated) >SSRIs >SUPER liberal/believes what TV man told them to
(again, this is most women, but I’m specifying those extreme liberal soifolk SJW goes to BLM rallies over a fentanyl junkie ODing type of people; the type who not just won’t, but literally cannot hear out an opposing political view and only hear some else who totally shits on what the TV lady said is the current enemy it is a good indicator she will act that way in the relationship too regarding any issues or boundary setting that you mention) >Has shitty hoe friends (*** see note at bottom) >Does drugs even just smoking pot, drinks often >talks way too much shit about other women beyond just a gossipy type of way, especially her own friends >absent father >was spoiled rotten growing up
>Cutting scars >Tons of tattoos
(a bitch does get more than 2, not to mention over 10, tattoos for no reason) >Hairstyle changing often
(weird colors, going bald, when black the going bald is a huge one bigger deal than a white bitch doing it because black bitches hair grows slower and most of them can’t grow long hair, also when black the style changing is hit or miss if she wore fake hair already that’s normal for them) >Black >Has issues with and fights with her mother often
(this has been consistent with every crazy bitch I’ve met not just the ones I’ve dated) >SSRIs >SUPER liberal/believes what TV man told them to
(again, this is most women, but I’m specifying those extreme liberal soifolk SJW goes to BLM rallies over a fentanyl junkie ODing type of people; the type who not just won’t, but literally cannot hear out an opposing political view and only hear some else who totally shits on what the TV lady said is the current enemy it is a good indicator she will act that way in the relationship too regarding any issues or boundary setting that you mention) >Has shitty hoe friends (*** see note at bottom) >Does drugs even just smoking pot, drinks often >talks way too much shit about other women beyond just a gossipy type of way, especially her own friends >absent father >was spoiled rotten growing up
***if she got hoe friends, she’s a hoe. And if she’s not, this is what will happen to a T: you guys have little fights and occasion issues like most couples do eventually, she runs to those friends for validation and advice, they will obviously side with her because
1.) they’re stupid hoes who can only see it from the self inserted female perspective and 2.) she will have downplayed her actions/words to you and twisted the story in her favor.
So from multiple ways, and then being hoes, they will sabotage the relationship and tell her to leave or cheat and keep convincing her that’s the best thing for her. Going so far as to say stupid shit like “it’s not cheating because he’s a jerk”
The ither part, if she has lifelong hoe friends and an absent father and a mother she fights with often, guess what dude she was raised by those hoe friends. Girl in that text is that exactly even though the hoe friends all came from money and had great parents involved in their life, just genuinely shitty people. The hoe friends have gone on to become coke heads these days and I’m pretty sure are dying from the addiction rn.
Some of that list is a combo of that girl, the other girl who I dated for a few months before seeing she was too similar in many ways (issues with mother, etc) with the same issue of accountability (spoiled rotten), and others I have seen my friends date. I may write a book on “the BPD bitch”
She's black
Unfortunately this type of girl is not limited to black girls
It’s true this can be a girl of any race, but it does seem very prevalent in black women. Once you experience it multiple times you begin to understand why a black dude may be willing to marry an obese white woman.
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dated a girl whose best friend was a slutty nurse girl with a reputation of sleeping with married doctors + 3-4 abortions. Guess who i found out cheating
Bros how do I ngaf about this? It’s making me feel like an incel, and I’m not I usually get laid a few times a year have had GFs, but I’m genuinely beginning to hate women. I don’t hate what they are, I hate how they are. I’ll just rattle off some shit instead of typing an essay >They, through adult life, get coddled and treated with the same level of patience as a child
Such as when starting a new job. It’s okay for them to be incompetent and make mistakes >simultaneously treated like they’re super crucial and important to whatever thing they’re dealing with
Simultaneously valued as much as a man who had to bust his ass for 10 years to prove himself, like they get that level of respect and value out the gate >despite having it on “easy mode” they complain how difficult life is for them
See next point but they THINK they want to get a job and be some badass bread winner but they crumble with piss easy HR thot job sitting on their ass 90% of the shift texting, tiktok because they had to have a new hire sign on boarding papers >They don’t know what they fucking want >bitch and moan about being lonely because Brad Pitt isn’t in their DMs, while insisting men could never relate see next point >utterly delusional seemingly lacking in all awareness of self and the world >literal NPCs >every decision they make is based off what gets them the most validation/attention/tribal acceptance, ranging from career choices to how they choose to justify shitty actions to avoid guilt and shame >have become so delusional they seem to have no idea about the reality that this homosexual wrote until something happens then all they can do is scream and stand there mouth agape paralyzed even if they’re just observing someone get punched 50 feet away
I don’t want to care. It’s almost like I was better off as a total socially inept virgin as a teenager when I didn’t realize all of this and thought they were just real people like anyone else.
have any of you guys ever used an escort? is it always a scam if they ask you to send them money before you meet? I'm not poor but I don't wanna get scammed for $50 because it'll hurt my feelings.
>$50
no escort worth seeing is charging $50 lad
anything less than $200 is either std-ridden or a scam, and even then good escorts are usually $300~ and up
based jinxchad
haven't personally used an escort but $50 isn't overly alarming imo
you could ask in monger threads on /gif/, lots of escort addicts in there
the massage is never worth it. just a charade to justify the house fee
the handjob is legit though, these women do it for a living so you can imagine they have it down
It's not always a scam, but it almost always is. See if she has reviews and make her send you a selfie with the days date written on it to make sure she's real.
Years ago I was complete wreck. No education, no job, no money, debt, lived in a rotten shithole of an appartment because it was the only thing I could afford, depressed, etc etc
Then with the help of some friends I managed to pull myself out of this hole. I got a degree, got a decent job now, enough money to afford a nice appartment, got a car and even took much better care of my body. Got a real haircut, nice, clothes started lifting etc
Still, I'm not happy. Objectively my life became so much better, but I'm not happy at all. If I didn't have a job I probably wouldn't even make it out of bed most days.
I just want to stop feeling bad all the time. But no matter what I do it doesn't seem to get better.
i have a lot of accomplishments and have checked off nearly all of the normie life goals but was feeling pretty shitty earlier this year. i went and got a therapist for a couple months. i don't know if the therapist actually helped or if the mindset that got me to acknowledge i had to change how i was thinking was where the actual change happened.
Bro when do you know that you’re ready for a relationship again?
Whenever I think about starting a new one I get a bad feeling and just think: >I could be alone instead of going out with one and have more fun in my free time
I fucked up and fell for a girl whilst deployed overseas fellas. She has a boyfriend but never talked about him. Only about a month to go and then the suffering ends. And thoughts or tips?
booze or internalizing the idea that 95% of women aren't worth investing in, and when you find one from the 5% you'll know it because it'll be a long-term interest and build from time spent with each other
thats it bros... I am going to make it. Finally started my bulk after a grueling summer cut. Everything is progressing insanely. Went up from 100kg bench and 5x reps to 102,5kg and 7x reps in just 2 workouts. All I have to do now is not somehow fuck it up over the next few months.
Most anons have a normie gf and as soon as they see nagger homosexual tossed around here more than once, they will probably have a breakdown and post a tiktok about it >inb4 projecting
this actually happened to me and got me fired (part time job but still)
The more cardio I do the more I find myself lurking woman hate threads on /misc/
I don't even hate women but I find morbid schadenfreude at their shortcomings. I know this can't be healthy for me in the long run
Gym staff and two members were talking about something I did and laughing (not gym related, I also don't know them, no I won't explain, it's extremely mild, no clue why it would even be a topic of conversation).
They aren't aware I over heard what they were talking about.
I've been actively trying to improve myself for a little over two years now and although I've "made it" in certain areas (physique, job, learning, a couple others), I'm still extremely lacking in other areas (mostly friends/dating).
It's much harder to cope with the loneliness when you're actively trying to improve yourself in order to fix it then when you just accepted it and lived life accordingly.
I recognize that it's good that it's bothering me in the sense that it will push me to achieve my goal, but in the short term it's less than ideal...
I'm fine now after I've sat on it for a while, I overreacted which is odd for me, and in the grand scheme of things it doesn't matter I know I will still make it.
I also will have 0 issues going to that gym in the future, I've put it behind me.
But...when driving home tonight, if I was driving my faster vehicle which I was going to take, I likely would of maxed it out on the shitty back road and hit a tree.
If it does end up bothering me, I'll sit on it for at least a month, then at worst slash the one person's tires.
>not I won't elaborate >yes I will commit vandalism because someone was talking about me
you need therapy bro.
but here's some advice. no amount of self help, improooving, or anything else will help with social skills. You need to just start on them.
You wait until you're 100% perfect with yourself, but at that point you spent too much time alone and you're now optimized for being alone, with hobbies that you do alone, and you find you have no desire to break what's been working for you.
Mocking someone and laughing at them is different than talking about someone.
Yeah I’m trying to become more social, just difficult finding activities to do to find others. I’ve made some progress, went out a couple of times with people I met, just haven’t made any permanent friends yet, it will come. If there were sit down bars where I lived I would go to those and try to meet people. All of the ones near me have private booths and no seating at the bar sadly…and the part of my city where I live is 90%+ non-white recent immigrants that are very closed off and culturally different.
how the fuck do I approach a girl who lifts with her dad? she’s a butterface, but I want her. He never leaves her side, she never goes to gym alone, and the guy has physically confronted others who’ve tried to talk to his daughter.
I’ve been watching them for close to a year now and can’t figure out how to go about it without her dad getting pissed or turning her off
What do you really have to lose anon? Just tell her she's cute when he's in the toilet or something.
You're wasting your life avoiding the potential embarrassment of rejection or a mildly angry gen x dad
>doing NNN >fapping anyway, not planning on cumming >reach almost the end >HOLD MEN >orgasm doesn't happen, but some cum leaks through >don't have the release from the orgasm, but have less 'pressure', if that makes sense
Did you know that the ejaculation process, and orgasm process, while often intertwined, are very separate? You can orgasm as well without the ejaculation. Anyway back to greentexting. >feels weird releasing cum without the release of the orgasm
I guess technically that NNN hasn't been failed yet, but honestly I'm more worried that doing that might mess up some things.
Like, yeah, stop doing it, I get that, but I'm wondering if I should just fap normally to resynch everything together and then stop.
>been going to the gym for 1.5 years and never talked with or had a girl try to talk to me beyond necessity >yesterday I end up talking with one of the cutest girls I think I've ever seen at the gym between spotting her on bench >decently long conversation conversation, good laughs, exchange contact info and so on
I guess trying to train with her at the gym sometime is the next logical step, would be awkward to try to push this any faster. still comprehending the fact that that happened, the whitepill is real bros
Anyone here successfully quit nicotine? Started sporadically at age of 12 (lol), cigs, snus, vape, you name it. At age of 18 I started using snus daily, with occasional vape and cigs. I'm 21 now, tried to quit few times. Longest time's been a month. However cravings never fully subside, I can sit on my bed for hours just having my head filled with massive cravings. No matter how much I distract myself nothing helps
When I was younger (19-25) I could lose weight while gaining strength. Now (39) I can't even maintain strength while calorie neutral. And my joints are all fucked from years of labour. Can't do deadlifts or squats because my back is basically dust.
>always the funny guy throughout childhood through high school, class clown type but also got top grades >however, didn’t really have any friendships and no relationships and was pretty socially avoidant >go to college and still socially avoidant, but still could make people laugh wherever I went >always alone, miserable, and ruined my life >be the same through my 20s, no life development but still funny guy >turn 30 and realize I’ve ruined and wasted my entire life with no skills, no career, no friends or relationships, and that now it’s over >go from the funny always joking guy to now severely depressed, miserable, barely talk to anyone, want to kill myself all the time
Looking back my problem was that I never made any initiative socially. Never tried to ask girls out or try to set up hanging out with people outside of school. It’s over
>khv at 28 >5'8 >Lost interest in everything, barely able to push myself to work out and keep the place from falling apart >Handful of acquaintances, nobody I trust to reciprocate enough to be friends
I just want it to be over man, I'm only sticking around for my dog and to help my sister through university but once those are crossed off the list I'm likely heading to a Canadian maid cafe
Blogpost I guess but at least it's something that shows I was here
>have a cold again
Any broscience on how to not get sick so often? I'm fitter than ever, but I've been getting sick once a month this whole year for no reason
I cant handle another interview bros. Its soul crushing that i had to turn down the only job offer i got because i couldnt afford to commute into the city.
Im at the point where if my life was a game i would just start a clean save.
>Be known as a hard stoic guy >Go to the gym >Go back and enter home >Have a massive cry or like 15 minutes >Put myself together >Hell yeah let's rock and roll
you are probably push pressing. your ohp is way to high compared to your bench. either your bench is doodoo or you are not doing strict ohp (which is more realistic). also get rid of dl.
Would it be an okay idea to move out but not truly be ready for it?
If I live frugally it would mean occasionally dipping $100-$300 into savings each month to make ends meet, but I have enough saved that even after 5 years of that I would still have over $20k saved. Taking the occasional overtime would mean it wouldn’t even be every single month I have to do that, likely just $1000-$1500 a year from my savings. It would enable me to get by until I get my raises and can start adding to my savings while making ends meet. But it would basically be >work, overtime as I can get it >grow some of my own food plants (potatoes can be grown in a bucket, veggies table top garden), dollar store items (toiletries and shit), coupons and buying my other food (eggs & chicken) from walmart >spend no money on hobbies, the hobbies I have don’t require any money to be spent >no social life (lol)
And I wouldn’t even have to grow my own plants, it’s just one measure I could take to cut costs. I already have a home gym that I could fit inside a 1:1 apartment (rack bench plates etc) it would just mean storing everything inside the rack if the space bothers me
A beer
How do I get over fear?
I have to have my teeth pulled and due to childhood trauma I’m positively terrified, last time I had surgery I escaped the chair mid op and it took my father and two dentists to get me back in the chair and finish.
Mind you I’m not scared of anything else, I’ve been in more than one life or death situation but the fear of the dentist is something I’ve never defeated.
Tell them.
Call them and speak to the actual dentist so it isn’t just an underling giving them a shitty and watered down version of your story, but do it in advance so that they can do their math and be sure about things.
That shit (you losing your god damned mind) doesn’t sound beneficial to you or the dentist so it’s probably in their best interest to sedate you.
my pstd ridden ex girlfriend made me feel like shit the other day when i talked with her, she's lying about everything and i should be happy that' we're done, but my mind lingers alot
we don't talk otherwise, no texting, not following her on social media etc. but my friend told me she had bikini pictures up, when we're together she didn't have it. I think it was her plan to cry and manipulate my feelings while telling me lies
>but my friend told me she had bikini pictures up
tell your fucking friend to not tell you about her, what a shit friend man
4 weeks ago
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no no, he has also deleted her and his girlfriend did the same, but it was like 2 weeks after we split, we have split before and got together but i told him we weren't getting back together, so he deleted her and said sorry after i told him i don't follow her
4 weeks ago
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ok good now tell that bitch to stick it, go lift iron and fucing live your life the way you want anon
4 weeks ago
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thanks man, my body has improved since we split, we saw each other a few times after, so stopped contact a month ago, so the random encounter was a set back. But i'm still training and eating better, so there's that
4 weeks ago
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do not lift for her, do not lift for the moment to show off eventually
lift for your life
do not ANON HEAR ME OUT do not lift for "maybe down the road" NO DO NOT
4 weeks ago
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i don't, i always trained for myself, so i like it that i have "more" time to gym etc. she also said " oh now you're going hard in the gym, because we're not together anymore" but i told her i have more time because she's not taking all my free time
water for me thanks.
I joined the Navy for a job I didn't qualify for in the civie world. It's not worth it bros, the amount of bs in basic made me hate the military (you're at the mercy of morons). Stay in school and learn a skill
There's this girl that I'm casually dating. We talk on the phone, hang out, get food together, and have sex sometimes. I've introduced her to my friends as well. I like her but I don't want to commit to her as a full boyfriend. Bother her and I are free to date other people.
This weekend I was drinking with my brother and his gf and they were both really adamant that I need to have another relationship talk with this girl. Saying that she probably thinks that we're more serious than we really are and that I should make sure. I don't want to because I don't want to mess up something that's fulfilling for me. But they're right and I don't want to hurt this girl's feelings, she's really nice.
Getting SwoleShack again is going mostly well Anons, about to hit 1pl8 again on the bench around Sunday. Personal life is going well too, the only thing that isn't it I don't want to say I've come to regret breaking up with my now Ex.
But a part of me desperately wants her back and I don't know why. I did fine for two months without her now I've fixed everything I couldn't when I was a NEET I just... Really wanted to fix *everything*.
Even though she treated me poorly something is deluding me to think one last call, one last talk a real talk would fix it all.
Similar here except she fucked up and I felt still do feel like my only option was to leave. Freudian slip threatened to cheat on me, wouldn’t even apologize or own it just gaslighted me about it.
It’s a shitty feeling, like we regret it. But we left for a reason. And I think some of the regret is genuine loneliness and just lack of the female companionship we grew used to having.
Anon your scenario is eerily similar to mine. Though for me she started acting cagey about sex. She started getting highly distant, made me resent her.
I had to cut it off as it turned into one large catch-22 we both weren't happy I just, I remember the happy times, when we wanted to marry each other, when we were both passionate about each other.
I'm an attractive guy that hasn't had his first kiss yet since it's something I wanted to dedicate to my future life partner. I want a girl who's the same in that regard, so I hope I can find advice in regards to finding her.
I know a Catholic Christian girl who might be up your alley lad. Shame she's in North Dakota at the minute.
She wants to wait until marriage for sex and has never kissed anyone. Downside (I guess) is she's 26.
Oh, I'm 8 years younger than her, so maybe not the right call for me. Plus I live in Europe. But I'd still appreciate any type of advice or help that you might have access to due to you knowing her. Also open to exchange Discords or whatever if you think it's better to talk there instead of here. Thanks!
We met by happenstance but I know her sister too and both know quite a few similar Catholic women in the States from the Midwest.
Few should be popping over to Ireland in a bit so I might pop over and see if I can get a new gf tbh.
Does anyone else compile a folder full of notes on their phone? She blocked me since our breakup so i have created a folder and just make a note every time I start thinking about her. I keep writing whatever comes into my head and usually ramble on for a few pages until I stop when I reach some point of crying, anger, satisfaction, contempt, etc
bonus question: she cheated on me twice and I’m still trying to pursue a relationship with her because I am a retard with no self respect + severe attachment issues
I have no motivation for anything anymore. My girlfriend left me because she knew that I wouldn’t be able to provide the kind of life that we both wanted us to have. What motivated me in life was to work hard and eventually find someone who I loved and knew unquestioningly that they felt the same about me, even and especially so through the ups and downs that we would always have each other, and that love would be enough. The truth is that it only exists through the ups, and will be entirely lost on the downs. This realization has destroyed me. Everything that I was working for is not possible, is not reachable, because it was simply never there. So, why do anything at all?
Call me a loser who cares too much about what women want and not about what I want. All I want out of life is a woman that loves me, so what's the point if they don't exist. It's all transaction.
Nah bro, they'll stay with a "loser" they do it all the time. It's just your needy, bitch boy vibes
I'm sorry, I'm the same way.
You need to act like you don't care about them, that they are secondary to your life.
Every successful relationship that I have seen has been this way, a self absorbed man and a woman that needs to beg for his attention.
This lovey dovey stuff is only sought by women as side action, they see their husband as their new dad.
Again I'm really sorry, Everytime I thought I could just love them it's been this way
Life is pretty much on easy mode
Low expenses, own a home, disability income, two remote jobs, paid off truck, majority custody of my son and most other metrics in control.
My only two issues: my mother and my ex are the only social interactions that I have with the world. My ex, even though she’s an ex for a fucked up thing she did, is only annoying when she wants something from me. I say no and she wines and nothing happens. My mother on the other hand, is an unbearable human being. Thinks that she has rights over her grandson and helps me in no way. Helps my ex when she needs help with our son than she helps me. Her excuse? “I know baby is okay with you whereas not with her”. Doesn’t want me dating cause she worries I end up dating women she doesn’t like. Has set me up with single mothers before I want nothing with.
I love my son and since I have majority custody, it is difficult to go out and meet women and spend time bonding with them.
I think is best to give up on dating until he reaches a good age. 10-14yrs old. He will be six soon. Suggestions from other single dads with majority custody?
PS: 30s men are mostly trash grown babies who need to ask wifey for permission to do anything. Making friends at this age is hard.
blog post incoming.
I've noticed that everything I do or want to do in life has a high cost of failure and I'm reluctant to keep trying due to the sacrifices I've made >failed math and stats multiple times in college, took time off for mental health and over 5 years to get bachelor's >train in kickboxing for a few years, lose several fights, a bit concerned about brain health later in life >failed white collar career, risk being a NEET in my 30s >didn't date or even interact with women in college or young adult life, would look like a complete sperg trying now especially with my issues >get interested in cars and engineering, would have to go back to school and possibly go up to masters if I want a viable career in cars beyond a wrench monkey
I want to try and learn so many things but get frozen by the sunk cost and the chance that I won't have anything to show for it. With everyone already doubting me and disappointed with how I turned out, I can't afford to fuck up and lose what I have.
>failed math and stats multiple times in college, took time off for mental health and over 5 years to get bachelor's
And you still managed to graduate. >train in kickboxing for a few years, lose several fights, a bit concerned about brain health later in life
I did the same with boxing baring the fights. Been thinking about giving Kyokushin a try since I also fear brain damage. >failed white collar career, risk being a NEET in my 30s
Same as me. White colar isn't the be all end all of life. I personally think it's a dreadful way to live. I've been looking for public servant jobs on the short term. Having a security blanket when it comes to money/career will help me pursue new things without the "I'm a boomer neet" neurosis. Tbh I've been toying with the idea of pursuing a physiotherapy degree on the side after getting the job and specializing in prosthetics after graduating. >didn't date or even interact with women in college or young adult life, would look like a complete sperg trying now
Dating is a skill anon. I went from a sperg to someone who can reasonably hold his spaghetti on a date and so can you. Women can be kind towards your circumstances too. My ex had all the patience in the world with my depressed neetdom. >get interested in cars and engineering, would have to go back to school and possibly go up to masters if I want a viable career in cars beyond a wrench monkey
Go for it. Don't expect it to go wrong or right. Just expect the thing itself. I'll start a short israeliteelry making course soon. Dunno what'll come out of it but I don't wanna spend the rest of my life wondering. Also, aim for some cool short term goals too. Maybe you've always wanted to learn x language or visit y place. Treat it like a side quest. In my case as soon as I get the job I'm taking weekend lessons on how to sail and maintain a boat.
Im healthy as fuck. i have been lean and athletic all my life. low bf. workout 5 days a week (weights, hiit, cardio, boxing, rope) my hormones are on the high end of normal. i usually get asked if im on something. and i do feel the testosterone: im a highly irrigatable guy and my anxiety is off the charts.
that said im completely unable to have sex. my dick gets momentarily hard and loses hardness right away. trying to have sex with my gf was insanely taxing on the body. theres no chance i can keep hard for penetration. and im a cardio guy. id rather i was running up a mountain. in all honestly, i cannot fathom how sex can be considered a "fun" activity.
i like the female form but i absolutely hate sex and the idea of it. i have to take 100mg of viagra to be able to complete the deed. it's a horrible extremely tiresome process with a lot of grunting and sweeting that has absolutely no benefits or any pleasant sensation.
my perfect relationship would be one with sex happening maybe once a month because i know first hand women love to pretend but actually value sex very highly so a sexless relationship is not realistic.
I have applied to 100 jobs in 2 weeks. I need something to change. I cannot go on being a NEET. But I have no idea what else I could do. I'm so blackpilled bros.
Went on my morning walk at 4am today, I think I saw a ghost around the corner at the end of the street from my house. I was walking down that way and at the very end I was a human silhouette moving in a non human way. The whole thing kind of floated and shifted backwards and to the side into the street then disappeared, reappeared in its original spot, then floated backwards across the street and disappeared again. At first I thought fuck it idgaf, I don’t fuck with the ghost it doesn’t fuck with me. If it does fuck with me, I’ll fuck with it even harder. Keeping in mind that one green text about the SwoleShack autist who moved into a ghost house and started throwing dead snakes at the wall and shit, just showing no fear. But the closer I got to the end the weirder I felt, idk how to explain it it felt ominous and then I started worrying if it’s real and shit what if it follows me home and I pussed out and turned back walked a different way. >Halloween decoration
Definitely wasn’t >a living human
No it wasn’t.
Idk what that shit was, either my mind playing tricks and there wasn’t even anything there or I saw a fucking ghost.
I’m 27 but I still feel the same as I was 17, however I’m now getting noticeably older and my body isnt the same anymore. I’m autistic and I’m scared of growing up bros
Yeah same shit dude same ages. At age 20 I felt like I was still 10. Age 22 I felt like I was mentally around 14. I used to hate this but I’m beginning to see a bright side.
If I could get my shit together, I basically get to be a 17 year old in a grown man’s body with money and shit. Once I’m 40, I’ll mentally be in my 20s/30s still. But after 50 it will have caught up since the gap in wisdom between a 40 year old and 50 year old aren’t anything crazy, same with 70 and 60 or 80 and 70 if I make it that long.
Yeah same shit dude same ages. At age 20 I felt like I was still 10. Age 22 I felt like I was mentally around 14. I used to hate this but I’m beginning to see a bright side.
If I could get my shit together, I basically get to be a 17 year old in a grown man’s body with money and shit. Once I’m 40, I’ll mentally be in my 20s/30s still. But after 50 it will have caught up since the gap in wisdom between a 40 year old and 50 year old aren’t anything crazy, same with 70 and 60 or 80 and 70 if I make it that long.
It means you haven't matured since your teenage years. You might have issues that keep you stuck in the past.
What advancement in life have you made since high school?
Growing older happens to everyone, but you have to choose MATURITY. There's nothing cool about being 17 in a 40 year old body
> If I could get my shit together
You have to get your shit together. Time is running out
Honestly taking a moment to think about it and after reading your guys’ replies, you’re right. This is why I’m like this. I’m 27, still live at home, not much has changed for me since I left highschool. I’ve wasted the last 10 years. One can argue in in an even worst position now despite not much changing by the simple fact that I’m 27 and still in the same life circumstances I was at 17.
Gonna apply for a trade apprenticeship. I think getting a real job, moving out, becoming independent and self sufficient is a good start.
However, I don’t know what comes after that. How did I level up beyond that? Don’t mean to get too far ahead of myself while I have more important and immediate shit to worry about and should just get a job and move out first. But what, is that all it takes to feel my age, job + self sufficient + have own place? Nothing else? Surely there’s more
you live life little nigga. you’re late to the game but at least you’re getting to play. you just live your life. find out what goals you have and set up paths to those goals stick to it. All the other shit will come as you go.
All I can really imagine is >own some land, preferably over 15 acres >build shit like solar and rain water collection to cut bills, grow some of my one food, raise some animals >do a lot of fishing, get a couple dogs, if I can meet a decent woman to put some children inside of
But idk how realistic or unrealistic that is.
Looked into it, trade apprentice applications aren’t enrolling until 2025. I’m going to try to get whatever job I can immediately though. Either helper position or just some grocery wagecuck. Save my money, start paying some of my bills instead of being a leech, get the apprenticeship for 2025, and move up from there, move out into a studio when I have like $25k saved.
I just want the animation industry, hell the media development industry as a whole including games and whatnot to do a 180 from where it is now so I can better hold onto the hope I'll be able to make my own series one day
I'm gonna keep doing art no matter what but it doesn't help seeing everything so dire what with greedy corpos and DEI meddling propping up these shit stories
What do you mean by where it is now?
The same place as most media, pandering to fragile naggers and putting more focus and emphasis on pandering to the pussy ass homosexual work agenda than on making quality content?
Pretty much yeah
I have a lot of faith in the indie scene ushering in a golden age for animation specifically but fuck me did Vivziepop give us an uphill battle with her fanfic-tier slop of a "show"
The American sphere is especially bad since they can exploit Korean sweatshop workers while making people do multiple roles for the pay of one here in the states, not to mention a myriad of other problems.
Hopefully the union has its shit together for the next round of strikes come 2024, it won't solve the pandering issue but at least it'll ideally mend some foundational issues with the job system as a whole here
>woman who is sort of my gf started talking shit about money and me being broke and how we are two broke people >get slightly offended pointout that I have money I just don't waste it like she does >we go back and forth, she starts making fun of my clothes and my car >points out that I don't have any knickknacks on my shelves >I'm on the complete defensive not even thinking clearly just wanted to prove I'm not broke >end up sending her rent money >wake up, look at my account, realize what I've done get mad at her for tricking me >after my workout realize she didn't trick me at all, I'm just REALLY stupid
fellas, should I end myself? Not only am I stupid my first instinct is to blame others for my retarded mistakes.
>get slightly offended pointout that I have money I just don't waste it like she does
This was a fatal mistake. Don't get emotionally invested in petty arguments like this. She was testing to see how secure you are with your finances. Seeing as how you stumbled and tried to prove yourself for her approval, she's most likely lost a great deal of respect for you. Other Anons with more women experience can chime in, but I'd say find a way out of that situation ASAP.
That being said.. if you truly ARE struggling with finances, you need to increase your earning potential regardless if she stays or not. What do you for work and is there room for growth? Are you living a minimalist lifestyle or barely getting by?
>woman who is sort of my gf started talking shit about money and me being broke and how we are two broke people >get slightly offended pointout that I have money I just don't waste it like she does >we go back and forth, she starts making fun of my clothes and my car >points out that I don't have any knickknacks on my shelves >I'm on the complete defensive not even thinking clearly just wanted to prove I'm not broke >end up sending her rent money >wake up, look at my account, realize what I've done get mad at her for tricking me >after my workout realize she didn't trick me at all, I'm just REALLY stupid
fellas, should I end myself? Not only am I stupid my first instinct is to blame others for my retarded mistakes.
He needs to break up with her.
Once a woman sees she can be flat out disrespectful like that, AND have it be rewarded, it will never end. Like there’s a line you just don’t cross, and this is especially true in the context of women. If they cross a line and don’t face immediate repercussions/get checked immediately then they will never stop.
In this case the way to check that would have been in the moment (that ship has sailed) and without getting emotional just telling her “okay. So what are you about to get into?” Or some other way of politely kicking her out of his house. If she doesn’t leave, you proceed to dumping her. You give her a final chance to take accountability for being disrespectful, to acknowledge that shit isn’t gonna fly with you, tell her that shit isn’t going to occur again if you’ll continue dating, if she doesn’t own it, apologize and maybe suck you off, then you dump her on the spot.
I personally would have, and have in my own dating life, left her immediately for being verbally disrespectful like that. I simply don’t have time to waste on a nasty bitch.
***And btw, there are times a woman will be disrespectful like that to motivate her man because she sees potential in him and doesn’t want to leave him. But that usually only comes after she’s urged you to improve the correct ways for a long time and you haven’t changed shit. That doesn’t sound like his experience
Another thing, he should have immediately just shrugged it off instead of getting offended and proved her wrong with his actions. Get a raise, better job, take her out to do something she can’t afford. Tell her maybe she can help him shop for some of those homosexual ass “knickknacks” for his shelves. Etc.
No man. Theres only a few ways to recover but they all include leaving her. And the main reason you need to leave her is that she has no respect for you, this will not be a happy relationship ever. >first option
Just cut contact and move forward. Recover the lost money immediately by being single. Improve life, get more money, meet a woman who doesn’t behave like a stuck up entitled retarded shit filled cunt. >option 2
I don’t recommend this BUT
Either stay with her for a bit longer, or break up without actually breaking up just start ignoring her leave her on all your social media. Fake flex (I said I don’t recommend, it’s faggy). Rent a car afte r a few weeks of radio silence and just causally have a friend video tape you for your social media story in the car. Then when she hyu just tell her “it’s over, I’m up now” and ghost.
Again, very petty, bitch tier shit, but it’ll make her seethe. You can rent a lambo for not too much for a night. >option 3
Spend the night at her place, steal from her, then break it off.
Don’t do this. Same shit, bitch tier homosexual move. But it IS one option.
Best move is option one. This bitch doesn’t have any respect for you and will jump on the first dick of a man she feels is doing better the first chance she gets. End it now while it’s not really a big deal, rather than be posting in this thread in 6 months saying >my gf who I paid rent for cheated on me after calling me broke wahh I feel so stupid I should have listened to that anon who gave me multiple options to prevent this wahh
Like dude thats whats gonna happen if you don’t leave her. You will never respect yourself unless you start practicing it now and dump her, and you have an obligation to do so for the next dude she meets, she has to learn being an entitled disrespectful cunt is not okay. But most importantly you have to eliminate that toxicity form your life. As you said, she’s taking a toll on your mental and making you act foolish
How do you guys cope with stress from work ? I do all kinds of activites and its stil not enough. Anons who do not work in a desired field, do you think starting to develop new skills at 32 is too late? I cant imagine to be bossed around by a 25 year old if I start working in a new field.
No it’s not too late. I’ve seen many people do that, and the men who seemed to have their shit together the most didn’t get bosses around and the younger mid 20s managers seemed to desperately seek their approval. They were mostly silent, only talked when necessary, showed up, did their work, worked hard, excelled, but didn’t go above and beyond either. Literally just >appearance >demeanor
Granted these were retail jobs and I’m fairly certain they said they just needed a second job for a while when interviewing as to not seem like a total loser.
What field are you in, why do you hate it, and what fields are you interested in?
>What field are you in, why do you hate it, and what fields are you interested in?
International transport, I menage truck drivers, plan their trips and so on. They are abosulute retards so you are basically a babysitter and all the responsibility of their mistakes falls on you. >what fields are you interested in?
I have accepted that my degrees are worthless and that I will do what I love only as a hobby. (art) And thats okay. I''m not sure they most enjoyable job I have had was in a restaurant because there's still planning involved but the team makes it great. Other than that I have thought about taking a few courses in either SCRUM ( altthough that filed is over saturated with people ) or try go for something art/design related but I feel like im a bit old to chase that dream again. Other than that, maybe some job that has organising and people involved but not absolute tards.
forgot to ad, you basically have no off days, no holidays and they may call you at any time for some bullshit. Overtime is not payed, neither is work during holidays.
Here’s my recommendation:
Learn graphic design in free time, start by making shit for yourself just learning to use the programs online but doing designs FOR you based on your art style.
Stay in current job, get any certs needed for graphic design. Begin making ads, build a portfolio and some social media pages build a following just spamming your shit. Eventually get clients, build a portfolio of actual shit you’ve been conditioned to make. Eventually raise pricing. When you’re able to make like $20k off it, then consider going restaurant I would assume you’d be taking a pay decrease to do that.
Continue building that up, freelance your other artistic skills for non graphic design type art, same shit build social media and portfolios get to position you can charge more and more.
Worst case scenario, your hobby is a hobby that occasionally profits. Moderate case scenario, it earns you an extra 20 grand. Best case you do well enough to pay your bills with art.
I’ll send a second response about the management job because I do feel for you.
I have worked for a short time in graphic design but yeah, I think its worth a second shot. I have been told many times I have some talent so would be a shame to waste it.
[...] >management
Dude I get what you mean. I fucking hated being a manager. My whole life everyone’s told me I’m meant to be a manager I’d be a great one all the aptitude tests I’ve taken told me it’s what I’m best suited for. I knew even as a teenager it’s not for me. Finally did it for like 2 years and hated my life. It was in the medical field and these fucking medical professionals were bumbling idiots. Nurses, medics, EMTs, CNAs, etc all fucking retarded. Their job was piss easy, it wasn’t in an ER or anything. It was quite literally read questions off a PT intake form, launch zoom off an iPad for them to speak to our PA, do whatever non invasive testing or interventions the PA tells them (99% was just taking vitals maybe some blood if in scope of practice). And they consistently fucked it up and made these mistakes which I had to answer for.
This often made me work an extra 4-6 hours just sitting in the office going through hundreds of patient docs fixing mistakes ranging from misspelled names/incorrect DOB, to having to account for testing we did but didn’t charge them for. It was bullshit. I had maybe 4 days off and they’d blow me up every 10 minutes with stupid questions they knew the answer to (I held their hand for weeks 1on1 showing them the ropes), or demanding I had to come in to solve some crisis which disappeared when I finally got there. Seemingky they were mad I dared to take a single fucking day off.
I have often described the ex prince how you did: an over glorified babysitter for grown adults who didn’t know their ass from a hole in the ground.
There were maybe 3 employees on the team who were competent, 1 of which still gave me problems on occasion.
That sounds excrusiating, I dont know how managers do it, you either have to have a hard on to be ordering people around or you have to don't care too much about anything. Personally, I get too caught up in people's mistakes and just get angry. I hope you are doing sometning more fufilling now and thanks for the advice, bro. A lot of times talking to anons in these threads helps more than talking to friends. You make les excuses in front of stranges I have noticed.
I’m the same way, I get pissed off over stupid mistakes that there’s no excuse to make. Like constant ongoing coaching for the entirety of their employment, me going out of my way to send them instruction manuals/guides to refer to for anything they’re unsure about which I made in my spare time off the clock.. and I still get bitched out by the top boss and have to take it with a smile because they put some 50 year old patients DOB as todays date and now insurance is fucking with us, when all it took was taking 15 seconds to proof read what you typed in, or just lmk then and there they made a mistake so I could have it fixed before it was too late, or just plain going slower.. yeah bro it sucked and I know some of what you’re going through, or can imagine kind of.
Anyways man I wish you luck, I think you’ll do great with some grinding and if you’ve got passion for art and have already done some graphic design in the past. I have an interest in graphic design too something I’ve been doing, as I get the ideas for it, is making a mock product and emailing the design to smaller/newer brands with a brief description of what the product is, asking them for any feedback on what they think, offering it for free but saying I’d like some opportunities to work with them just in hopes that they’d hire me or give me some commissions and pay me.
It’s an idea to consider trying. I’ve had no luck so far but haven’t done taht more than three times and I’m super new with design, self teaching off YouTube using photoshop and gimp and some other software. I would image with skill, and doing that enough one could have some decent monthly income off that, maybe even get hired at a company.
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There are drivers which if i dont tell them to fual up they will en up driving until empty. It makes you a really cynical person because you realise we are not all equal at all . Yeah man, I tried some stuff but was depressed for years and did fuck all art-wese.But recently I have been trying to make a new habit of it and just enjoy it. Thanks a lot for the advice. jJust keep at it bro, im sure you will land the job you want in the furure. All the best
Here’s my recommendation:
Learn graphic design in free time, start by making shit for yourself just learning to use the programs online but doing designs FOR you based on your art style.
Stay in current job, get any certs needed for graphic design. Begin making ads, build a portfolio and some social media pages build a following just spamming your shit. Eventually get clients, build a portfolio of actual shit you’ve been conditioned to make. Eventually raise pricing. When you’re able to make like $20k off it, then consider going restaurant I would assume you’d be taking a pay decrease to do that.
Continue building that up, freelance your other artistic skills for non graphic design type art, same shit build social media and portfolios get to position you can charge more and more.
Worst case scenario, your hobby is a hobby that occasionally profits. Moderate case scenario, it earns you an extra 20 grand. Best case you do well enough to pay your bills with art.
I’ll send a second response about the management job because I do feel for you.
>management
Dude I get what you mean. I fucking hated being a manager. My whole life everyone’s told me I’m meant to be a manager I’d be a great one all the aptitude tests I’ve taken told me it’s what I’m best suited for. I knew even as a teenager it’s not for me. Finally did it for like 2 years and hated my life. It was in the medical field and these fucking medical professionals were bumbling idiots. Nurses, medics, EMTs, CNAs, etc all fucking retarded. Their job was piss easy, it wasn’t in an ER or anything. It was quite literally read questions off a PT intake form, launch zoom off an iPad for them to speak to our PA, do whatever non invasive testing or interventions the PA tells them (99% was just taking vitals maybe some blood if in scope of practice). And they consistently fucked it up and made these mistakes which I had to answer for.
This often made me work an extra 4-6 hours just sitting in the office going through hundreds of patient docs fixing mistakes ranging from misspelled names/incorrect DOB, to having to account for testing we did but didn’t charge them for. It was bullshit. I had maybe 4 days off and they’d blow me up every 10 minutes with stupid questions they knew the answer to (I held their hand for weeks 1on1 showing them the ropes), or demanding I had to come in to solve some crisis which disappeared when I finally got there. Seemingky they were mad I dared to take a single fucking day off.
I have often described the ex prince how you did: an over glorified babysitter for grown adults who didn’t know their ass from a hole in the ground.
There were maybe 3 employees on the team who were competent, 1 of which still gave me problems on occasion.
this best way to "work" after work, i need something to fill up my nights, after i split with my ex, i have plenty of free time, usually i'm with friends on the weekends. How to get into a rhythm so i don't waste hours doing nothing after work
Vodka, sugar-free Red Bull, and lemonade please.
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NO MORE GAINS GOBLIN YOU FAT BITCH NO MORE DESSERT NO MORE FOOD DELIVERY NO MORE COOKIES & ICE CREAM!!!!!!!!!
Crappy disorganized client full of employees that couldn't care less is delaying another project and trying to pass blame
Not even supposed to be working with them this week, but they delayed into another client’s time
Not gonna continue working with them, but trying to stay professional so they'll pay their bills
Just need to last the week, then I can go back to the clients I like and have time to lift during the day again
I'm exhausted, gonna go send a third email stating if they don't do the next step the project can't finish
>ask for a raise >get shut down with a shitty compromise >agree to talk again this march >mean while I gotta come up with a strategy until december 10 and execute it until late march decently
thats 50% more work for maybe 3.5% annual raise
goddamn it, back to linkedin I guess
Pro tip:
Before you ever ask for a raise, put in 80% of your max with 90% bursts when needed. Just enough to be better than everyone in your same roll. Prove yourself, wait for others to make mention of your accomplishments. Ensure the difference you're making is known and they, bosses included, know it’s only there due to you. Ensure shit depends on YOU and only you to run as efficiently as it is.
Then ask for a raise, if you don’t get it tell them no problem, go home, email him saying something to the effect of “it has been a pleasure and I thank you for this opportunity, however I feel I am not being fairly I now dated for my efforts and need to take other opportunities up on their offers. After [tomorrows date] I will no longer be available to work on this team].” And then ghost your boss if he blows you up. Ghost him for like 3 days or a week, allow them to panic and see the difference in how shit runs without you. Then reply to his emails/texts, and see if he’s more agreeable.
But you then must be prepared to put in 85% at all times. Never go past 90%. And I wouldn’t do this unless the difference in pay was like a $20k raise which obviously most jobs aren’t going to give you.
This works best in startup companies. I did this, was making my boss millions in net profits. Entire operation depended on me. Waited until he was getting married and hit him with this the week of his wedding. Dude bumped me from $16/hr to $28.
thanks anon
I have a tricky situation, I'm an expat so I cant risk not being employed, so I cant pull of stunts
but I'm new to in house gigs so I treat everything as a learning experience
I had a somewhat awkward incident today that a couple of years ago would've made me physically ill. Today it left me completely unfazed and I just continued like nothing happened. Sometimes it's really the small things that remind you how far you've come.
I like a girl from my workplace who doesn't like me back. A few coworkers always insult her behind her back for no reason and I know it shouldn't, but it really pisses me off.
I don't want to say anything about it though because i already asked her out and failed miserably. I'm just glad she didn't tell anyone (at least i think so). I'm such a loser, why am i even getting invested in this?
>redhead who got sexual with me and sent nudes is acting like it never happened the day after
I'm not gonna be like a pajeet and go all "show bobs and vagene" when the mood is gone but fuck pretending you're some virginal damsel. This bipolar atitude most women have towards sex grinds my gears. >tee hee, I'm the world's biggest slut >sex? why do you mention it? I'm not sexual at all
It's all so tiresome. I can barely tolerate much of their bullshit before calling it quits and still feel like a monkey jumping through hoops. Dunno how so many men manage to endure ten times as much.
Maybe I should keep chatting her up but spending days gaming her and using jedi mind tricks just to have what'll probably be mediocre sex with someone who can't even last an hour sounds like a waste of time.
gayanons don't know how lucky they are. I can't even fathom how it is to go out with someone who has accountability.
>Dunno how so many men manage to endure ten times as much.
Low self worth will make you do pretty cringe shit
At least you've got the abundance mindset for the most part, I wouldn't recommend full on blocking her but just don't hit her up anymore
If she's already invested nudes in you she definitely wants to keep you in her back pocket, just don't let her take the ball from you
>If she's already invested nudes in you she definitely wants to keep you in her back pocket, just don't let her take the ball from you
I think she was just horny. Dunno how many times some woman has sent me nudes and then split. The difference being that this one didn't disappear after and we keep replying to each other's texts. Still, its not like she has been putting much of an effort on them. I'll just much her energy with the next reply and that'll probably be that.
All in all the whole thing is a shame because she's the only woman I met these last few weeks who seemed both dtf and not insane/full of STDs.
I genuinely don't want to dislike women, but I went back to college recently and feeling pretty demoralised about the state of things with them, one the other day I met at a social thing and within the hour she was telling the group of people I was with how she had to take plan B this morning, another was talking about all the guys that helped her out with coursework, it just makes me miserable about things, probably doesn't help that I'm terminally single either
If you scroll up you’ll see two long posts about feeling similarly to you. I’m the anon who posted later saying he doesn’t want to hate women but just can’t help but notice how there isn’t much to like about them. In short my post said they all have life on easy mode, get treated like they have it on hard mode, and they act like they have it way harder than anyone.
Something I think of when it’s on my mind and I catch myself seething is the story about that lady who cosplayed as a man for a few years to prove how easy men have it and realized how wrong she was and wrote a book then killed herself from how shitty the experience was.
Let me clarify how much of a statement that is. They’re so fucking weak that just a few years of what men deal with daily for a life time caused her to be successful in something nosy women fail at doing(suicide). Coincidentally this keeps me from ending it. I can’t be as weak as something I look down on so heavily.
I don’t really care if it’s misogynistic but I don’t believe women should have rights, be allowed to work.
>I don’t really care if it’s misogynistic but I don’t believe women should have rights, be allowed to work.
Good man, letting them vote was a disaster. It's no coincidence every society in history saw the need to reign them in
I believe they should work actually, but only in certain traditionally female rolls like as a teacher.
So much of this country is broken man. Womens suffrage, the whole feminist movement and the damages it’s caused (what we now have for women today), trannies, immigration, nigs, nigs rioting over a junkie ODing and no one really caring, inflation and wages (you could buy a house at age 20-25 in the 70s, thanks reagan), etc etc.
I think the only way it could get worst is either there’s another WW and they draft us (imagine getting sent to die for the interest of rich politicians and other counties who hate us) or if they give blacks reparations.
Idk where I would go, but I want to flee this country and find somewhere that I can buy up some land. It would suck doing that all alone though. Honestly been wondering about the Faroe Islands. Just get away from all this BS.
>So much of this country is broken man. Womens suffrage, the whole feminist movement and the damages it’s caused (what we now have for women today), trannies, immigration, nigs, nigs rioting over a junkie ODing and no one really caring, inflation and wages (you could buy a house at age 20-25 in the 70s, thanks reagan), etc etc.
As long as they worship their false god of democracy and equality then nothing will change. They literally can't justify any of their views and just blurt out "equality" to justify them as if that means anything. >Idk where I would go, but I want to flee this country and find somewhere that I can buy up some land
I've thought the same but I don't have the means to do so. If God even wills for me to have children I have no idea how I'll raise them in this hellscape
>I believe they should work actually, but only in certain traditionally female rolls like as a teacher.
I agree but only once she has raised her children to a suitable age
>Something I think of when it’s on my mind and I catch myself seething is the story about that lady who cosplayed as a man for a few years to prove how easy men have it and realized how wrong she was and wrote a book then killed herself from how shitty the experience was.
Don't badmouth one of the few prominent women who gave a fuck about men. She didn't played at being a man to shittalk us, she was genuinely curious about how life as a male was like. She was also very sympathetic towards men and both her book and her interviews always portrays us in a good light and say women have no idea how hard it is. She even mentions how dating women as a man is a nightmare since she went undercover on a few dates. She also didn't kill herself because of the experience, she did it because she had previously been suicidal for years. I know the things from your post are spammed here but that's just deranged incels stupid to the point of attacking one of the rare women who would be sympathetic to their plight.
BPD anon I hope you’ll see this and reply
Yeah I dated a BPD girl back in college. It sucked and I’m sure I looked like an idiot, but through it all I gained experience and know what red flags to look for.
I am the sick anon^
I saw it now thanks for tagging it. Yes that sounds about right. Its about lovebombing you and then blaming you for their problems with no accountability for them. You're an accessory to the amazing story of their life that they are the hero in with literally no faults. If you stand up for yourself and they get violent that's another strong indicator. And threatening suicide is absolutely the one.
My trick now is to push back a few times on things and watch how they react. Nothing major but enough that I can get a sense for how they deal with problems. If they lash out or play communication games like waiting days to reply then its usually a good sign that they can't handle it. If they open up and discuss the issue and are interested in your side then yeah you're generally on the right track.
Its not about when they're happy and it certainly has nothing to do with what they say, its about when they're sad and feeling threatened and what they do with that.
Checked. Glad you saw it.
>My trick now is to push back a few times on things and watch how they react. Nothing major but enough that I can get a sense for how they deal with problems…
Basically same. If she can have a real conversation about it, without doing the gaslight and blame game dance, actually hear me out instead of just hearing “YOU YOU YOU” but realize I’m not coming at them in any combative way just trying to resolve any problems and move forwards have a good solid relationship. THEN I’ll know there’s a chance.
Which for smaller shit I can personally okay, because most women cant take accountability anyways. But she needs to be able to act like an adult when it’s over something serious.
>not about when they’re happy, it’s about when they’re sad and threatened
100%. When they’re happy they can be great to be around and interact with, normal even. Unfortunately that becomes rarer as time goes on with a BPD girl IME.
I wish I had a better way of articulating it in my own words other than they almost view you as an emotional punching bag and an object, but I think you said it perfectly
>Its about lovebombing you and then blaming you for their problems with no accountability for them. You're an accessory to the amazing story of their life that they are the hero in with literally no faults
It’s crazy, you can present hard concrete evidence of what tehy did wrong, and very specifically explain “I am not mad at you and I’m not saying this to be judgmental or mean at all, but [this thing] wasn’t okay and it can’t happen if we’re going to be together, please do not do it again” and they respond with something to the effect of “you’re insecure/delusional/lying/made it up/that never happened why are you always so critical of me and belittling towards me.” And do the whole ignoring BS, acting like a complete bitch when they finally speak again and in my experience expecting an apology for daring set a boundary
Yeah I don't expect any woman to be fine all the time. The issue is that with BPD you're always on egg shells about anything because it's impossible for them to perceive you as a living thinking person, it's the epitome of main character syndrome. Fortunately you can teach yourself how to recognize it once you get your confidence back after their type wrecks you once or twice. I'm pretty thankful for the experience because I was able to respond to it and become a much stronger man, took shit loads of pain and self reflection but I feel that when the right woman comes along it's gonna be fireworks, until then I'm enjoying being able to weed out the psychos quickly and having the confidence to approach irl.
I gotta go deal with some stuff this afternoon but will check back on the discussion later. Good luck, it sounds like your senses are pretty well attuned for the nonsense.
A little slow tonight, isn't it?
Some would argue that’s a good thing.
I’m sick and sedated the shit out of myself last night with NyQuil, melatonin, and ZMA. Slept for like 11 hours. Going to try going to the gym for the first time since Thursday.
bros I finally slept with a woman after 24 years of being a khv, and I was her first too. I never thought I was going to make it, but now I think I might. This is so surreal
Well done mate, proud of ya
How did you two meet anon? Tell us more about it
I dated a BPD woman and she gave me the herp in addition to a destroyed ego. It sounds like you guys made it out better.
I want to be a father.
Me too broski
same
I want to have many sons and daughters but I don't want to be a father really. I look at my father and he's miserable. I don't want to be like him and spend time with my children. I want my sons to be independent though.
I'm 31 and a kissless virgin and can barely even take care of myself. The thought of being a father is beyond unfathomable for a loser like me. I cannot even comprehend how people can do it. I am so far beyond help from society.
Same. I'm a total failure of a human. 38 year old virgin who lives with his mum. I'm not supposed to reproduce, Darwin has filtered me out.
I'm in a similar situation to you and I still want to be a father. That's the tragic part.
I have a son and he's amazing
[Spoiler] but I'm recently divorced and I have no idea how to re enter the dating world while working full time and having my son 50% of the time [/spoiler]
I had a x girlfriend with ptsd, but you guys talking about BPD, is what she is doing after we split, i saw her randomly the other day, she started crying said she missed me, still loved me blabla. and then i found out she was doing stuff on IG that she didn't post when we were together, and she just manipulates me and makes me feel like shit.
I remember you, I was the anon telling you to power through and consider stealth mode in public. Don’t forget my advice. Vent here, meditate, and Patrice O’Neal podcast clips. I’m also one of the anons talking about BPD exes in this chat because mine sent me a paragraph text today after years of silence blaming me for ruining her 20s somehow. Blocked her, doing best to keep my head up (it’s easy at this point), but the whole idea of BPD women is a curious one to me. I think it’s something all men need to be prepared for and know the signs of.
yeah it's me, i just need to talk about it. It's crazy that somebody can blame somebody for ruining years after they're done with the relationship, yeah i normally never dated girls with PTSD or BPD, this is the only time where i have gone months after a relationship and somehow feel worse after the things from the other day, than the whole aftermath after the break up.
Just keep in mind this was her goal. Probably same shit with mine. It’s an attempt at boosting their ego at the expense of us. Just consider what that is in simple terms.
>I make you feel shitty, remind you we’re over, and evoke negative sad emotions from you, and in return I get to feel happy for all of five minutes
You shouldn’t feel nearly as shitty realizing that’s all it was, a weak persons attempt at feeling good about themselves.
But remember picrelated. It means your human. It means you are capable of meeting an actually worthwhile woman and having something incredible with her. The BPD exes, they can’t ever achieve that.
yeah you're right, it's for her a control thing, she has talked about losing control and after the abuse she faced as a young teenager, she now just need the "control" because she didn't have it when she was abused. So i kinda feel she's doing it also to feel control over me and i can't believe i didn't notice it before, so i could have ended things ages ago
I don't know how to have fun outside of my passion which is now my job, drawing and painting.
I don't enjoy "food", I don't enjoy travelling, specially traveling alone which I would have to do because I virtually have no friends.
>Just go explore the world! Travel! live laugh love!
it's literally a hassle for me. I wish I was a normie
If you're passion is drawing and painting but you don't enjoy it as a job maybe it's because you feel pressured to perform and get paid over just enjoying the process?
I'm going into an art career path myself and I already made peace with how the workload is gonna be
A glass of skim milk please
Where do you find actually interesting, decent people? Do they even exist?
Everybody I know my age has psychological issue so severe it impacts their life, has drug problems, has absolutely 0 ambition to do anything life. Worst of all they are on a general downwards trajectory in every aspect.
And I feel like the people I know are still the among the better, mainly because they aren't social media addicted zombies.
I got my own problems and flaws, but at least I have fucking interests and I'm actively taking steps to improve my life, to learn and to become a better person. Everybody around me just seems to have given up.
>Where do you find actually interesting, decent people?
I met most of my friends on school and some guys clubbing actually. Work friends haven't sticked with me.
>Everybody I know my age has psychological issue so severe it impacts their life, has drug problems,
None of my friends are perfect, some have a harder life than others, so I don't judge, all of them are good people in my book.
>has absolutely 0 ambition to do anything life
Kek, you and I wouldn't be able to be friends. I have seen people with ambition either develop an insane ego and become lonely monsters or lose it and destroy their lives on the way down.
Most of the well balanced people I know are people with little to moderate ambition that takes things one step at a time or capitalized in one amazing oportunity and then spent time consolidating insted of searching for the same high.
> a nagger, sir
I caught fucking COVID. This shit sucks. Its like a normal flu but I cant taste or smell anything, and also I feel like I am trapped in someones elses body
Just give me any drink I guess, I cant taste anyways
YOU CANT BE HERE YOU WILL INFECT EVERYONE
WHERE IS YOUR DOUBLE MASK AND HAND SANITIZER GO HOME
Welcome to the suck. Hope you survive.
>Be me
>18, college freshman, edgy depressed retard
>Take shrooms
>See my life from an outside perspective
>Realize I don't hate life, I'm just bad at it
>Begin an obsessive self-improvement routine
>Lift
>Study
>Read and develop interesting hobbies
>Teach myself to cook and eat healthy
>Eight years later
>Have a good, stable job
>My own nice apartment and car
>Huge library of books
>In very good shape
>Brute forced my autism into an ability to actually talk to people
>Talk to them
>They all fucking suck
>I have nothing in common with anybody around me and they all bore the hell out of me
>Just sit around by myself reading and lifting and cooking and writing all day
Some days I can be satisfied with myself, some days I just wish I had some real friends. It's been a long time.
>Brute forced my autism into an ability to actually talk to people
How
T. In the early stages of wh
Not op but did the same, if have the analytical flavor of the tism you can analyze yourself well and improve. You just have to beat your ego into submission and stop yourself from over analyzing. Change one thing then go do it again. If it works then great do more of that and find another thing to change, if it doesn't then try again. You can very easily make monumental change in the course of a year by subverting your ego and focusing on one little thing at a time. Suddenly you're sociable and can even utterly eclipse the normies who don't try to be better. You'll find your aren't that weird I'm the long run and can start opening up about your anxiety here and there. People enjoy it and open up to you because it makes you relatable. Then off of nowhere years later your forgot how god damn terrible you were at it and you become a bit more normie but with that edge of always being better. It's a nice place to be
I feel as though this is what I’ve done my whole life. Observe and analyze others to learn, analyze myself and where I went wrong to improve. And still, I struggle immensely and can barely speak to people as damn near 30 year old man. Like a child trapped in an adults body. It’s like I can’t help but go all wide eyed and shit, I reflexively do this stupid compensating chest puffed out invisible lat syndrome posture and get teased for it often, literally cannot help it my body just does it and I can’t force back while doing anything social.
I don’t really have much to share about myself. I spend time in nature all alone, I enjoy animals and taking pics of the creatures I encounter. And that’s really it. It makes me sound like a retarded child who spends his time with animals because they’re not as mean as humans. All I do other than that is lift, vidya, anime. Nothing really interests me.
And I’m not a total loser either I’ve somehow managed to get laid a few times by concealing my autism just enough and getting the right balance of quiet and reserved that I come off as shy or mysterious. But the few girls I’ve dated, as soon as I get comfortable and let the real me out they immediately lose interest and realize “oh shit this dude is autistic wtf”.
>make them laugh never speak to them again
This isn’t bad advice. Unfortunately I’m just not there yet. I’ve gone to bars by myself a few times and I awkwardly sat there pretended to scroll my phone, pretended to be into the basketball games that were on, then finished 1-2 beers and immediately left. Each time a cute solo girl, either finishing her shift nearby as a regular there or whatever, has come and say right next to me. Glanced at me, did the shut they do when they want you to talk to them. And I couldn’t. I couldn’t make sound come out, knowing how autistic I am and get so in my head I can’t. I have nothing to offer to a conversation.
not him, but I kept on trying to figure people out, after a while I could look at them and work out what they wanted me to say
have a dry, sardonic humour, that makes this easier
be pushy, but not too much, just make them interact with you, don't be silenced
work your brain very hard in social situations, analyze small clues and stuff in-flight, detect patterns of speech etc
don't say weird shit about naggers and anime and e-boi thighs and tazers
And yeah I like this anons point and what to talk about. The Greek classics are a great place to start. I'm also obsessed with impressionist art and do sculpture myself. It's basically an endless font of things to talk about if you find the right people, if all they want to talk about is pop culture then just use them for practice and move on to the next person to talk to. Also genuinely listen to people and what they're saying, don't plan your next words until they say something you want to know more about or share an anecdote from your life. They'll key you in eventually and then you can go ham in that direction. You can learn so much from people you talk to, but you need to actually listen.
That’s another problem. I do have many interests, but nothing I’ve driven deep enough info to make any real conversation about. And I know better at this point than to say “I’m super interested in X thing” when I don’t have any depth to add beyond that.
Like, I’d love to learn all about various history, art history and creating my own art (painting, drawing/sketching, sculptures etc), photography, music & learning instruments (bass, guitar, some horn instrument like trumpet or whatever, drums all sound fun to me), etc etc
Yet that’s a whole other issue I have is consistency. I struggle to be consistent with just lifting as is. I may occasionally spend all of 15 minutes in one of those interests before not touching it for another 18 months. If I could fix that problem, and have some depth to myself to share in convos I think I could be more confident in socializing at least to some significant extent.
I think it flows both ways. Don't wait for an interesting life to start socializing and don't wait to start living an interesting life until you're social. They go hand in hand and you can end up enjoying both and improving at both. Find one thing you're passionate about and put in some time and attend events etc. Learn it well but you don't have to master it. Cut out nonsense like video games and marvel movies and learn anything that requires mastery of your mind and body linked together. Then pursue something related, find the connections between the two things and be able to express them. You'll end up being a deep well of experiences before you know it.
>analyze small clues and stuff in-flight, detect patterns of speech etc
Forgot to mention, it’s so weird I feel like I’m both a master at this and a total novice in how I put it into practice. I could observe others talking and tell you who’s thinking/planning what who’s lying who feels what way etc…
But when it comes to me actually being involved, I just can’t. It’s like I get stage fright. When I have managed to speak it just gets awkward because I’m too in my own head. The times I’ve accidentally stumbled into convo shit went normal until I realized what was happening, then I started averting my gaze couldn’t eye contact, voice got horse and high pitched at the same time somehow, went panic mode and noped out.
A combination of numbers (to build confidence), having an interesting background (to steer conversations away from "what's your major" type shit), and genuinely paying attention to the people you're talking to (so that you can engage with them instead of repeating some retarded line you heard on the internet).
Go practice someplace where you don't know anybody. Have like two drinks, pick a girl that you DON'T want to sleep with, and just have a conversation with her. After a couple minutes of that, find an excuse to walk away and pick another one. Don't get their numbers and don't take them home. Make them laugh and then never speak to them again.
Yep short and sweet is the way to keep it. Leave then wanting more and suddenly you're the mysterious stranger that came through their life. Don't get attached, just sit listen and learn from them and thank them for sharing part of their life with you if they really open up. Then leave a little sooner than what seems socially acceptable with a smile and a kind word and don't stare awkwardly at them at any point for the rest of the time you're there. Just move on or enjoy a quiet moment then rinse repeat. Works like a charm once you get it down and if you see them again give them a smile and an ask a follow up question from something they told you. If you really have the tism you'll remember and they'll be amazed you cared to ask. Then you can talk a bit longer this time. Suddenly you have friends, the advanced tier of socializing is introducing me friends to each other. Then it snowballs and you become a social guru. This may take years but eventually you just do it by nature.
How to act
>speak clearly in concise sentences, don't ramble, don't interupt and don't let yourself be interupted
>make eye contact when you talk to people
>hands out of your pockets, use your hands to emphasize when you speak, don't fiddle with random shit
>smile more and generally stop hiding behind an emotionless facade, this is creepy especially to women
What to say
>when talking people you know ask them about something they told you about their life last time you spoke: "how was the exam?", "how is your injury?", "how was the concert". showing you remember basic things about someones life is THE most important lifehack in how to get people to like you.
>genuinely be interested in them. focus on what they are saying, ask non intrusive questions about their life that aren't just extracting information
General
>live a life worth talking about. if you have no hobbies, no interests and no achievements you will feel awkward because any honest conversation will reveal what a loser you are
>just ignore your awkwardness and pretend everyone is your best friend. social interactions are based on subconscious clues. if you project feeling awkward, they will feel awkward
>>just ignore your awkwardness and pretend everyone is your best friend. social interactions are based on subconscious clues. if you project feeling awkward, they will feel awkward
i read somewhere that 2 years of picking up females will put you a head of almost all men. cause picking up chicks requires lots of little social things that you learn and can only be learned when you do pick up. i noticed this in my interactions. Gone is the monkey man shit/i hope she likes me that most men do. I see it almost all the time. males are in mixed group and male always does things to make girls laugh or to keep their attention. Whether you like it or not, i think its essential for all young men to take some time to learn how to legit get good with females and not just settle for any girl that comes their way for betabux.
having tight game is essential to your wellbeing but ignorance is bliss too. like you dont think youre a pussy and everything until you start pickin up chicks. if you dont pick up chicks, nothing is brought to the surface and you might think your hot shit. like "shit why didnt i do that or why didnt i say that." the average man doenst even bother to reflect on that and its not brought to the surface so every interaction with a female is playing it safe and the "i hope she likes me" mindset ruins almost every man.
>don't let yourself be interupted
How. I’ve tried to continue talking as if they never tried and everyone will tune me out and listen to them, they won’t stop either and just do it back as if I’m the one who interrupted. Even when it’s one on one they just do it and if I keep going until I’m done speaking they completely ignore me. In one of two ways
>they do subs peaking first, ignore me as I finish, then expect me to respond to what they said while interrupting me
Tried telling people “what you said something? Oh I didn’t realize I didn’t even hear you, I was mid sentence” to try and train it out of them/teach them not to do that but it doesn’t work they keep doing it.
>I finish first, ignore them until they finish
And same shit.
I really feel it’s a matter of respect. I think it’s because I need to cut, it didn’t happen as much when I was leaner.. actually if it did happen what I tried above worked now that I think about it.
>eye contact
I’m working on it. Trying to force myself to focus on breathing slowly while I force myself to star at peoples eyes. I get anxious because I have this OCD thing where I stare/glance at peoples mouths and it’s obvious and I don’t want them to think I’m like trying to kiss them or something, that's my biggest issue idk how to get around it. Maybe I just embrace it and let it happen so it stops? Would it stop? Idk…
>everything else you said here pocket hands creepy face
I got that down at least
Saving your post I’ll try to put the rest “what to say” and “general” into practice. Thank you
>>don't let yourself be interupted
again game and picking up chicks will help u. cause when youre with a group of girls, the not as attractive girls will always be jealous and try to cockblock u or the chick. Sometimes other men will butt in cause when you approach the chicks, you literally made every man in the area a cuck because obviously all men noticed the chicks but were too pussy to even say hi. constantly gaming will help u over come this but sometimes its better to just get a number and dip.
It’s not even in settings like that, it’s normal settings with friends I had in the past, some of the girls I dated would do it every time I opened my mouth, just causal settings is where it occurred the most. I once cut all my friends off and called everyone out just a simple “HAHAHA can you please stop interrupting me? This is the 30th time you’ve done it since I got here an hour ago.” when one dudes GF kept doing it to talk about stupid shit and everyone looked at me like I was crazy, stared in silence as I finished, then looked back to that friends GF and asked her to please continue talking about how much she loves sitting on her ass collecting unemployment for the 300th time(it’s all she fucking talked about ever same story every time).
Obviously those may have just been shitty friends and me getting bitchy about it wasn’t the way either. I no longer speak to those people for a variety of other reasons. But I’m lost on this man. I’m not at a level where I can practice gaming women. Imagine I was an artificial adult human created yesterday who has to learn to socialize… the most basic beginner level.. can barely even talk to cashiers and store clerks.
>then expect me to respond to what they said while interrupting me
literally yell "dont interupt me!"
who cares? and who are you talking to? its a game.
Tried dude
I know at least 75% of the issue there was those were genuine scumbags who weren’t my real friends (same dude is texting me every week since I left them behind crying that he hates her and made a mistake hates his life). Like, if I had a gf I would ignore her to listen to what my friend was saying, or I would be the one to speak up on his behalf. I’ve done that in the past with a GF and a different friend.
Gettin gmeotionsl just doesn’t help… idk that this is the move I just really think if I’m not being respected at a basic level I have to cut those people off or withdrawal my presence from their life
you will get a head of them cause now youre actually practising moves. you ditched that group and with your next group you can start practising. say what you want and do what you want and dont try to be smooth. theres more than enough males and females in this world. and its good you care and moved on. people never change.
Eventually you'll meet them. Most of them are in your position, so they stay indoors and improoooove rather than going outside.
You need to get used to the idea that you're no longer looking to make friends with literally anyone you meet (that comes later when you're so uber emotionally mature that you see the good in everybody) but actually more like the 1-5% of people you seriously vibe with and can imagine being friends with in the long term. If you think about it, creating a serious friendship with every twentieth or thirtieth person you meet is actually doable and very rewarding. Then those people introduce you to more people, and soon you're going to parties and meeting girls and stuff. Then later you can start being that chad who everyone likes and you can strike up a decent convo with anyone you're introduced to. Baby steps. You're at a crossroads: one direction is you get serious about meeting people and develop a decent friend circle over a year or two. The other direction is you just give up and start swerving off into a loser autist self-improoovement trip. Back in 2011-12, SwoleShack used to call it "cocoon mode" and it was common knowledge that you can't allow it to start seeming like a permanent situation because that way lies hikkikomorihood.
Look around you on this board: it's easy to tell who stayed the course and who went off the rails. These guys wind up so bitter, convinced that everyone they know sucks and especially end up absolutely hating women with an unhealthy passion. /LULZ/ syndrome, except with muscles.
Believe in yourself enough that you can have fun no matter who you're with, and you'll start believing in them too. Best of luck, bro.
Yeah that's a great point. People prone towards autism and/or inceldom think that intelligence is understanding math, but its not only that. Intelligence takes on many forms and until you realize that you'll think everyone you meet is stupid.
Many are, yes but you wouldn't recognize me in a bar as being aggressively intelligent and yet I'm a well-paid consultant completing an MS/MBA next semester from literally the top school in the world for a hard STEM field with a less than 5% acceptance rate.
You'll be often surprised and sometimes blown away by people if you listen a bit and ask a good question with the goal of understanding who they are. One woman at my gym is 50 and dying of a horrible heart condition, her suffering and the way she handles it is beyond amazing to me. She obsesses over the stoics and the lessons we learn from Greek tragedy about being human and can share it in a way that changes your soul for the better. You'd never guess it but she's changed my life and was literally just a random hello. Many such cases.
>Many are, yes but you wouldn't recognize me in a bar as being aggressively intelligent and yet I'm a well-paid consultant completing an MS/MBA next semester from literally the top school in the world for a hard STEM field with a less than 5% acceptance rate.
I'm in a similar position specifically for ML engineering, and most people in my university treat me like an idiot or are intimidated unless they get to know me. I've had people at parties accuse me of lying to them when I truthfully tell them about myself. Of course it feels nice not to look like a /stem/cel, but at the end of the day I feel like I don't fit in anywhere. I don't fit in at university, I definitely don't consider myself part of lifting culture and I feel out of place when drinking with my party friends.
Most people find one thing in life to focus on and identify with. Career, hobbies, music interest, pop culture, whatever. It's like whereever I go I present only a fraction of myself whereas other people throw their entire life into one aspect. This makes my life more interesting for myself, but makes it hard to connect to people if you never really belong to their ingroup.
I emphasized this a couple times last thread, that's why you make your own group. Many people feel the same way and you can become the bridge that connects them, you just have to take the actions to make yourself that person and make the sacrifices that will require too. But the rewards IMO are worth it.
>back in 2011-12
Holy Fuck
>lol i was a depressed edgy retard and now i think i'm the greatest person on earth, im so smart and well read and so much better than everyone, im very highly paid and finishing a masters and mba at the top school in the world at a very hard STEM degree because of how smar ti am
>lol everyone i have ever talked to are so boring, i hate everyone, everyone is so dumb and stupid and can never match my intellect
enjoy dying alone you pathetic autist.
>IESLB
Fix it, FAST.
Its really just luck for finding people that don't suck.
The world is full of good talkers but few listeners.
jager on ice
asked a girl out today for the first time in 3 months or so, she said yes
stopped lifing for the most part, doing calisthenics and weekend tours to become lean
this cold-wet weather is killing me I hate it
Most of the board is just spammed to shit, so I'm going to ask for advice here.
I've only been working out for a month doing an Upper/Lower split. I'm criminally underweight, but I'm already gaining mass and seeing results. However I'm not sure if the split I'm doing is very good.
Upper days take me like 1h and 45mins to complete and lower days just destroy me even if they're shorter. I can barely manage 2 upper and 1 lower days within 1 week. I did upper on Monday and lower on Tuesday and only yesterday did I feel the soreness fully pass in my upper body and I can still feel some in my legs. I'm going to do upper tommorow and lower on Tuesday just to compare how long it will take for the soreness to pass this week.
Is this normal for a noob? Motorcycle chick is my payment for some answers.
booba booba awooga
how old are you?
21
whats your workout? you want mass? so i assume ur doing 5x5 or something. those get tiring really quick cause youre doing like 5x5 for 3 different exercises right? the strength comes fast if youre eating lots. so within like 3-9 months you can plateau.
soreness goes away when you stick with it a couple of weeks. it's called delayed onset muscle soreness
Hopefully that's the case.
Eh, for upper, I threw it together myself so it's pretty random but it's pretty much this:
Dumbbell bench press, shoulder press, pec flies, lat pulldown, cable row, lat raises, dumbbell curls, tricep pressdown and shrugs.
I try going 4x8 on reps.
I feel like I'm doing way too much shit in a single day when doing upper and I'm wondering if a PPL split would be better, even if I did it just 3 times a week in the beginning.
And yes, I'm trying to go for mass.
just do any 5x5 or 3x5 for 3-9 months.
Noted, I'll stick to that
Figured it wasn't normal to be this exhausted after workouts
>I feel like I'm doing way too much shit in a single day
yeah you are.
You're a month in bro. The soreness is normal, that's the DOMS. It goes away for the most part after you stick with it for a few months. Just make sure you're eating enough and getting plenty of rest.
Do y'all serve 1% milk here?
I'll take a beer or some white wine in a beer glass.
The woman I'm dating started out as a chill freak in the sheets, but now just wants to fight over shit nonstop. She litterally picks the slightest thing to blow up over and then we fight for two days, makeup for 3-4 and start all over. The last one she went full nuclear talking about other dudes sex names for her in the past and shit to get under my skin. At this point, I'm kinda done, but outside of those times when she blows up she's amazing. She buys me shit nonstop, she came by while I was at work and deep cleaned my kitchen, she'll wake me up with a blowjob, etc. I don't want to deal with hunting and early stage dating anymore Cuz I'm about to be 31, but idk if I can keep doing this.
Water, as always
So.. I didn't lose almost any weight doing carnivore for over two weeks. I did gained some benefits, but not the weight loss or the extra energy.
I'm gonna complete the month, but so far I expected more for the total sacrifice of goyslope.
I'm mostly carnivore, but for the opposite goal of weight gaining. I gained 15 lbs of muscle doing mostly aerobic workouts (surfing), and didn't have any significant fat to lose. Maybe you are losing fat and gaining weight at the same time?
Chronically underweight male here, trying to bulk on a low carb diet due to other issues. What are you doing to gain mass? Is there any right time of the day to eat?
>Maybe you are losing fat and gaining weight at the same time?
Tbhs I am feeling less bloated and more build. But I almost obese.
How long did it take for you to feel the benefits of carnivore?
I failed my 130kg 1rm bench again today. Although this time it was a good fail, as in I tried my best to push if off, when last week my spotter grabbed the bar too early which made me think I might have had it.
Gimme another
I wish I had good hair
its literally the only thing that bothers me
not so much to cause depression or something nor head off to turkey just yet but if I had thick hair I feel like I'd be much, much happier
I hit my goal weight last year, and because of emotional binge eating, I've yo-yo'd back. I know that I'm at fault for this. It sucks, and I have to try again.
I really like my current job, but I think I’ll have to quit and find a new one because I’m not making enough money. I’m still in college and I’m splitting half the tuition cost with my parents but my current job (janitor) is making pennies. I make between $65-77 a week because I only work two shifts and if I want more work I have to keep the job app open and keep an eye on the available work channel 24/7 while also competing with other people.
I really hate it, this is the first job I’ve had that I genuinely enjoyed, but I don’t know what else to do at this point. I’m just losing money and it’s stressing me out.
>broke up 3 weeks ago after 6 years
>shes already getting piped by randos
>im googling how to tie a noose
why are women the way that they are
>Didn’t put a ring on it after 6 years
Doomed to fail. Why do people date for so long before getting married? If you weren’t certain about her after year two at the latest, then a break up was inevitable.
"being together" isn't inherently different when you're married or not. A ring doesn't change their commitment to you.
"Should have married her bro!" would just as easily be "Sorry to hear about the divorce bro".
All marriage is is government recognition.
>spent the last hour wrecking some liberal israelite masquerading as a conservative on tiktok so bad about the reality of Israel vs Palestine being a genocide by literal definition (wasn’t even arguing in defense for either side) that he made a fake account to double reply to me and is currently attempting to dox me, replied to me with one of my neighbors name
Lol oops
i got through sober october without a hitch but been going hard for the last week
need to taper, i think i'm giving myself pancreatitis
I'm dealing with a serious family situation and I have been feeling really depressed and haven't check on my girl for a few days except to tell her that I wasn't in the mood to meet her and talk but it wasn't her fault
After that she texted me a few days later to ask me if I prefer that we "take a pause" until I recover
I was absolutely furious for a while then I was just let down on how quickly at the first serious shit that i'm dealing with she just want to get rid of me instead of waiting for me to ger better or to actually help
I don't think we will last much longer
How long have you been with this girl? Does she even know what’s going on? If you’re just ignoring her for days on end without asking for support or communicating your needs, or even describing what you’re dealing with, it’s reasonable for her to think you just want space and possibly a break from the relationship.
I've been with her for 1 year and half and she knows what's going on I already told her that I just need a little time alone and she started to ask "how long one week one month...?" like a need a deadline to deal with my problems
I'm not playing with her but since she already showed in the past that she can't handle me when i'm in a bad state I simply don't feel like being around her in days like this
I’m sorry anon. Sounds like she’s not the right one if she can’t support you in times of need. Best of luck with your struggles <3
Need career advice.
How would one get into research and development of high performance vehicles (racing, heavy duty, defense & aerospace, etc.) with no prior engineering experience? I considered trade school for auto/diesel/heavy machinery, but that seems off. I can't afford to get another bachelor's so I'd be willing to teach myself mech engineering from scratch, starting with the basic maths. Any other suggestions?
>t. late 20s sperg with business degree and improving work ethic
Anybody? I thought SwoleShack was full of STEMchads who could help
Try SwoleShack man. Good luck.
University. Bachelors and then Masters degree in mechanical engineering, specializing in the field you want to go in. There is no alternative. Trades do not even begin to touch the surface of engineering. You could theoretically find the resources and information yourself, but it's not realistic and nobody is gonna hire you for an engineering position without a degree
This is the right answer. There is no substitute for at least a bachelor's in Mechanical Engineering.
Any anons living with Type 2 Diabetes? Getting checked out by an endo for a confirmation soon since my family history and all my symptoms point towards it being my illness.
I just want to be big again, but from what it looks like even if I'm put on something like metformin my diet will have to radically change to even approach normalcy again.
carnivore diet fixes t2d. T2d is a metabolic disease. you were never normal and will never be normal again sorry to tell you that
I was looking into keto to try and fix it, or at least make it more manageable. Just sucks I'd have to significantly reduce my intake of stuff like whole milk and fatty steaks
>Gradschool will take half a year to finish
>Parents kicked me out of the house for no other reason but to learn to put myself up by the bootstraps (not even joking)
>Have two other jobs on the side to afford living with the bare minimum
>Live in a shared rental with three foreign people who don't even speak my language
>One of the guys genunely hates my guts, but acts super passive aggressive and gives me extreme paranoid thoughts about him killing me in my sleep
>Would like a gf, sometimes I try to strike up a conversation in the gym or when I go out but it feels super awkward, like they don't even want to have a normal conversation when I try
What are your conversation tactics?
I would say focus on getting tf out of that shared rental, if you can't sleep safely and without worrying about some homosexual shanking you. In the hierarchy of needs a safe environment is one of the most important.
she is going to cheat on you eventually, anon
I need to figure out a way to make decent money.
Wife and I want kids but low sperm count and she has cysts on one of her ovaries. It's so fucking over.
Ovarian cysts don't necessarily mean sterility (wife has them, and we have 2 kids). Have you tried HCG?
>ghosted again
The cycle never ends bros.
Meet girl -> interested -> talk -> ghosted at some point -> get over it by consuming copious amounts of alcohol and drugs -> fuck a sloot or two -> return to normalcy for some time -> repeat
Maybe you're just not interesting enough bro but
>Drinking and doing drugs because some whore ignores you
That's just sad man, you need to have more self respect. Value yourself more
I just fucking wish I could actually do shit that is related to my major instead of taking material science and circuits courses. I can't believe i failed for the ME meme
College as a whole is a meme.
>failed NNN just now
>dick was so sensitive that just pulling the skin taut was enough to bust
although 5 days is the longest I've gone without jacking off all year I'm pretty sure it's still extremely disappointing
I'm gonna keep pushing myself to completely move away from porn though, hate this feeling of sloth after cumming it fucks my whole motivational drive
try just going every other day not jacking off, then every two days, then 3, then a week, and so on so forth. Also while moving away from degen porn.
I'm going back on the israelite pills again (Wellbutrin)
Got word my cat died just before hitting the gym. She walked with me as I was leaving and always waited on me when I got home and walked to the house with me. Rough day fellas.
Fucking hell RIP to your cat, I lift for her tomorrow
Your cat worked out? Respect
Old fashioned with templeton.
I’m turning 29 soon and I haven’t been on a date in over 5 years, haven’t gotten laid in over three years, my parents are getting older and I have no answer for having kids. I don’t even know where women are, all the bitches on tinder are fat, not White, covered in tattoos, or have kids. I’m also a fat alcoholic with no friends. Idk what to do at this point, just work, go home, drink until I pass out, and then do it all again. And everything is expensive now, I want out bros
I
My sister told me today that I was too skinny for the amount of weights I lift.
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Could you repeat that in English?
No (yes but I won't)
>finally break 1 year dry spell
>some depressed hoe on an app
>didn't even enjoy it other than for the novelty of having sex
I'm once again addicted to chatting up hoes on dating apps and sexting them. That's all.
Post recent wins my friend 😉
Pint please. Have a gf but not attracted to her anymore. Only dated her because my friend said she's super hot and I like the chase.
then it's not to be. If you don't love her, if she isn't special to you, you're wasting your time and hers.
Im like you bro…
Just leave her trust me it won’t get better. After some time you just start lying about finding her attractive, loving her and force yourself to cum during sex. It’s exhausting
God I'm a fucking simp, gimme a pint.
>Start of the year, new woman starts working in my office
>Cute as hell, infectious smile, bubbly personality
>Don't think I've got a chance but I just make small talk, be polite etc.
>She eventually comes past my desk to start conversations with me, always smiles, offers to pick me up when my car broke down
>Run into her one night when she was out with friends and I was going for a night walk, we have a few drinks and go back to her place
>Have sex and it's fucking great, instant chemistry
>I catch feelings hard because she's just gorgeous and amazing to be around
>Grab lunch together every day, go for coffee breaks, she sneaks hugs in at work when no one is around
>I start going to the gym because she's a 10/10 and I'm a fat retard
>We see each other for a few months
>All of a sudden she stops replying to my messages, gets cold at work, doesn't talk to me much anymore
>Have no idea what the fuck I did wrong
>Find out she's been casually seeing someone else
This happened a few months ago now. I figured I'd get over her quick but for some reason she's always in my head. The only upside is I've been going to the gym more to try and distract myself, and in 5 months I've gone from 25% bf down to around 13%~ and feel great physically.
But I still have to see her every day and it's killing me because I'm a fucking retard.
>10/10 attracted to a fat retard
Clearly she wasn’t a 10/10, then. If she was, she wouldn’t have even gave you the time of day. Anyways, move on.
Tends to happen, im geussing you had a full tank n when she drains it and you start degenerating your value drops sharply.
holy fuck naggers, I just approached the cute metal head girl I keep seeing around my neighborhood, who has a giant ass.
>wake up and have breakie
>got to my balcony
>see her walking down the street
>oh fug it's her!
>quickly put a jacket on and head down there
>approach her from the back (no ideal) and softly say:" escuse me"
>she's startled obviously( I'm 6'0 and she must've been like 5'2)
>I've see you around a few times and thought you were cute can I get your number perhaps?
>*Smiles* eh yeah sure
>I'm nervous and I call her phone for some reason lol
>realize I haven't asked her name like the fcking spazz I am
>uh sorry I didn't get your name!
>Joana
>I'm anon.
>she tells me she's moved here because of Uni etc and I tell her we can grab coffee sometime!
It's been a while since I've cold approached, damn I feel alive lol.
Oh hell yeah man, my advice is don't hold back or she'll think you're a pussy
Yeah I'll message her later today
Every time I've cold approached a girl on a street(day time only) I've gotten their numbers.I'm not Giga chad at all, just 6'0, and probably 6/10, 7 on a good day perhaps.
> How do you do that without coming off as retarded?
I've always come off as nervous and retarded, but I don't think they care, as long as you tell them they are pretty, and be genuine. Complements are like an EMP to women, they automatically lower their defenses and their faces light up. We live in an age of E-simps who will comment their IG's, but how many dudes will go up to them and actually tell them they are pretty?
> Is a girl's attractiveness a valid reason for just approaching her?
so yeah of course it's a good enough reason, women aren't that stupid and I'd rather cut the chase and be blunt. Women know their main asset in dating IS their looks. DOn't be a pig( nice ass bitch!) but also don't be a prude nice guy ( I love your sweater!).
I'm about the same, only 6'2 and a lot less experience with women. I feel as though I could never be so blunt, but I'm lonelier than ever right now so I might try this, fuck it. Good luck with the metal head anon.
This would have never worked if you were 5'8.5"
That fucking works? How do you do that without coming off as retarded? Is a girl's attractiveness a valid reason for just approaching her?
Acting retarded is often a successful practice. As long as it's confident. If you wrote her a secret admirer letter instead of just walking up to her, then that probably backfires.
Do you just come up and say " hey I think you're cute can I have your number "
I don't think I could ever have the balls
She ghosted me after one text
Eh, maybe she's busy. Forget about her and focus on other girls and if she texts back tomorrow, great! Go smash that big booty goth gf for SwoleShack anon. If not, that's OK, plenty of hot chicks out there.
alright yeah she did text back and gave me her IG.
Wagmi (into goth pussy)
Just give me some water. I'm tired but not tired enough but that's good I guess. Well, work and the gym are keeping me afloat and focused, haven't missed a workout in months,
so much so that depression has waned a bit.
That said I'm gonna be very honest: being ugly sucks and I don't really recommend it to anybody, I feel like I'm utterly invisible to women and it hurts pretty bad, man. I refuse to use dating apps - don't think I'd do good, anyway - and it's been over a year since I had went out with somebody... funny how fast time goes by.
I'm socially retarded wizard (and probably on autism spectrum) who has never hugged a girl.
Prostitution is legal here. Would you go for it or what would your advice be?
I'm on the toilet constipated again..
I'm scared of pushing.. last time it happened I got myself an hemorrhoid.
For fucks sake, I drank more liquids, I did more exercise and I ate a lot less cheese..
Pray for me bros..
Its over. It wasn't as bad this time. WAGMI
Take fiber/ psyillium husk supplements
i am doing the carnivore diet for a month.
10 days to go.
I’ve been working out to the point that my gains have become pretty apparent and most of my friends have noticed it. Yet almost none of them are saying anything to me about it. I’ll hear from a friend that other people were talking about how much bigger I look. I wonder why they don’t tell me.
Lost 130lbs over a few years, felt like shit and it was all for nothing.
Joined a gym. Working out for six months. Gained little strength, no muscle, lost no more weight. Can't keep to a calorie deficit. Even if I eat right all day I ruin it before bedtime with binge eating or drinking.
The whole thing seems futile. Even if I worked out properly, ate right and lose weight, I have so much loose skin I'm always going to look like shit.
People lie and say exercise is good for depression. Lying fucks. Probably going to do myself in on my 40th birthday (currently 38yo khhv). My whole life has been a total waste of time.
Anons who live alone and pay rent, what % of your monthly income is your rent and how much do you pay?
For those paying close to 50% of monthly towards rent, how do you manage?
I’m highly contemplating just sucking it up and struggling being very frugal the next 3-5 years until pay raises kick in, barely scraping by and slowly burning my savings away. I have many reasons for this. I might give it one more year to save a bit more and then do it.
>work in fast food, have for 7 years
>fucking despise it
>25, still don't have my license
>starting uni next year
>have enough money saved up to pay my rent/bills for at least 4 months without concern
>considering quitting fast food
>using time off to get license sorted
>getting job at a grocery store to tide me over until graduation
Thoughts on this, brahs?
>iwhy no license
Never had friends to teach me, mom had cancer and driving with her was too dangerous, I'm in a new city but have absolute no relationships here but I can afford some hours of driving training and I'm comfortable enough behind the wheel, I just need real experience and some fine-tuning.
Do NOT quit until you have the next job lined up, completely guaranteed and secured. Getting a job right now, even some shitty grocery store wagecuck, is not as easy as it should be. I’m struggling to find work right now myself and I’m trying to get a grocery stocked job to hold me over until I figure out the next job. I have a multi year gap on my resume.
the more I think about it the more I want to quit tbh
I'd even be willing to take a server position at a restaurant which I know shouldn't be too difficult to get as there's a shitload near me, obviously that isn't too much better than fast food but at least I won't have middle-aged rotting women screaming in my ear about window times at a restaurant
and if I'm lucky I can make friends with a bartender and segue into bartending, as all my work experience happens to be as a """barista""" so drinks feel like a logical next step
my mcjob is making me wanna eat a mcbarrel at this point
I think I just wanted validation but stressing about it for the past 8 hours has given me some clarity
Listen dude I mcknow what you mcmean and it totally mcblows. But I wish I didn’t leave my last job until I had one lined up, because the gap in employment has only gotten bigger and bigger. Which was never an issue in the past I always got a new job within weeks. Combine being unemployed with a car wreck and I’m broke now. I hope I get accepted at one of these stocker jobs.
Btw, yeah get a driver teacher for a couple months or however long you need. I did that at age 18 because driving with my mom in the car was horrible, she would scream at the top of her lungs and freak out for no reason so I couldn’t learn with her. It was a big help, got my license like a month later only needed a few lessons.
>gf cheated
>we broke up
>already dating some other guy a month later
she disrespected me and shit all over my heart but i still feel like i want to kill the other guy. jesus man, i don’t understand it. she picked a hookup over our relationship, ruined it, and i still would kill for her love and attention. are women aware of this? do they understand the obsessive and often borderline lengths that men will go through in order to win their love? she’s riding the cock carousel and im being pozzed by a therapist so i dont an hero. why are women so heartless bro? apologies for drunk rambles, i think ill take a water
Let this be a lesson to never take women seriously again. And I know when you get close and bond with one it’s hard to view them as anything but amazing. But it’s best to take them with a grain of salt.
I wish I wasn’t like this, and I admit it’s semi autistic, but every time I interact with a woman, whether it’s dating or a friends Gf or some cashier, all I can think is “you are helpless.” Like, “this society is your backbone and without it you are helpless, you would immediately and subconsciously revert to sucking cock to survive if society collapsed and shit hit the fan. You couldn’t fend for yourself or survive alone, only by being carried by a man, who you would undoubtedly act in line for out of sheer submissiveness to avoid being cast aside. You would fuck him, clean, cook etc. and maybe only betray him if a stronger survivor came along and had no bitches of his own.”
Is how I feel and view them, and I wish I didn’t. I wish I just saw them as other humans but they are anything but human.
(Btw, how fucked is that that even in some post apocalyptic world they still wouldn’t be perfectly loyal)
Next woman, just take her with a grain of salt and vet her properly before developing deep feelings. Which I know isn’t fool proof, you could do that and perhaps you did with this one, and she could still betray you. I wish I had some better words to offer you, but my point is I get it dude. They’re pathetic.
>obligatory to not sound like a total incel
It’s not all of them, just most. The goal is finding one of the few who are real people.
i checked her story today. it was supposed to be our 5 year anniversary and shes posting pictures of him and their drinks, like they’re celebrating something. i hate her so much bro and i hate myself for loving her. she doesnt deserve it and no amount of autistic rationalization and resolve can keep me from loving her. i feel like a swanton bomb from a bridge would hurt less than i am right now. i wanna do it but i know one day i will get “better”. i won’t ever get over her because she was my first love but i will be able to maybe make it through the day without feeling random bouts of depression, anger, and misery. i took off a whole week from work for our anniversary so ive done nothing but drink and lay in my own misery, havent even worked out. nobody is coming to help me and i dont have the strength to help myself. i considered myself le stoic with autistic indifference but this woman has completely destroyed me and turned me into a little bitch
stop looking at your phone all the time pussy, like why make yourself upset over a woman, they are basically toddlers who shouldnt be trusted with your emotions
Anon this is a testament to 2 things
1.)you were the better person and are capable of love and building a relationship
2.)she (obviously) is the one whos fucked in the head and will never have a good relationship. Shes doing it to hurt you.
Stop viewing her stories. Honestly, block everywhere. That is the only way. Look at this text my nut job ex from 2016 sent me. She blames me for her mistakes and damn near a decade later is accusing me of all the things she did to me. Zero accountability, and your ex sounds similar. Just stay with me here: my point is that this is a miserable stupid ass bitch. And she is miserable because she has hurt people and wronged people and refuses to take an ounce of accountability which is what’s needed for us to grow and become happy. That will be your ex one day, a grumpy dumbass miserable cunt blaming everyone but herself for her own fuck ups. So in other words, you already won. You A.) got rid of a piece of shit for cheap and B.) are on the path to healing and eventually being happy again, even if it sucks now.
To reiterate, grey rock her block everywhere delete contacts. Then focus on you. Expend this energy improving in any area you want, need, or can improve in. When you feel like shit is when its most important to work on these things (money, health, fizeek, spiritual etc). Don’t date for a few months, but only give yourself 2-3 months. After that you MUST put yourself back out there again. You will find that once you fuck a new girl you’ll feel a little better, and when you meet a new girl and have a new relationship youll realize “oh shit I was so silly a year ago, being sad over some disloyal cunt who could only offer me the gash between her legs like any other bitch… I CAN meet new women, better women and I can have something better than what I had with her.” You won’t fully get that until you experience it but once you do you’ll just know and feel it to your core. The only way is forward man.
ROFL what a fucking psycho. Standard behavior for about 75% of women.
Yeah dude it’s way worse too, I could write like 10 max character posts here telling you all the shit she’s done while still trying to keep it concise.
I assume you’re not the anon I replied to, but I am in some way grateful to have met that bitch and had those horrible experiences. It’s helped me be prepared to not waste my time in the future and to know the signs of a BPD early on, it’s also given me a healthy level of standards in the women I choose.
What does she look like so I can avoid girls like this?
She's black
Unfortunately this type of girl is not limited to black girls
>Cutting scars
>Tons of tattoos
(a bitch does get more than 2, not to mention over 10, tattoos for no reason)
>Hairstyle changing often
(weird colors, going bald, when black the going bald is a huge one bigger deal than a white bitch doing it because black bitches hair grows slower and most of them can’t grow long hair, also when black the style changing is hit or miss if she wore fake hair already that’s normal for them)
>Black
>Has issues with and fights with her mother often
(this has been consistent with every crazy bitch I’ve met not just the ones I’ve dated)
>SSRIs
>SUPER liberal/believes what TV man told them to
(again, this is most women, but I’m specifying those extreme liberal soifolk SJW goes to BLM rallies over a fentanyl junkie ODing type of people; the type who not just won’t, but literally cannot hear out an opposing political view and only hear some else who totally shits on what the TV lady said is the current enemy it is a good indicator she will act that way in the relationship too regarding any issues or boundary setting that you mention)
>Has shitty hoe friends (*** see note at bottom)
>Does drugs even just smoking pot, drinks often
>talks way too much shit about other women beyond just a gossipy type of way, especially her own friends
>absent father
>was spoiled rotten growing up
***if she got hoe friends, she’s a hoe. And if she’s not, this is what will happen to a T: you guys have little fights and occasion issues like most couples do eventually, she runs to those friends for validation and advice, they will obviously side with her because
1.) they’re stupid hoes who can only see it from the self inserted female perspective and 2.) she will have downplayed her actions/words to you and twisted the story in her favor.
So from multiple ways, and then being hoes, they will sabotage the relationship and tell her to leave or cheat and keep convincing her that’s the best thing for her. Going so far as to say stupid shit like “it’s not cheating because he’s a jerk”
The ither part, if she has lifelong hoe friends and an absent father and a mother she fights with often, guess what dude she was raised by those hoe friends. Girl in that text is that exactly even though the hoe friends all came from money and had great parents involved in their life, just genuinely shitty people. The hoe friends have gone on to become coke heads these days and I’m pretty sure are dying from the addiction rn.
Some of that list is a combo of that girl, the other girl who I dated for a few months before seeing she was too similar in many ways (issues with mother, etc) with the same issue of accountability (spoiled rotten), and others I have seen my friends date. I may write a book on “the BPD bitch”
It’s true this can be a girl of any race, but it does seem very prevalent in black women. Once you experience it multiple times you begin to understand why a black dude may be willing to marry an obese white woman.
dated a girl whose best friend was a slutty nurse girl with a reputation of sleeping with married doctors + 3-4 abortions. Guess who i found out cheating
Bros how do I ngaf about this? It’s making me feel like an incel, and I’m not I usually get laid a few times a year have had GFs, but I’m genuinely beginning to hate women. I don’t hate what they are, I hate how they are. I’ll just rattle off some shit instead of typing an essay
>They, through adult life, get coddled and treated with the same level of patience as a child
Such as when starting a new job. It’s okay for them to be incompetent and make mistakes
>simultaneously treated like they’re super crucial and important to whatever thing they’re dealing with
Simultaneously valued as much as a man who had to bust his ass for 10 years to prove himself, like they get that level of respect and value out the gate
>despite having it on “easy mode” they complain how difficult life is for them
See next point but they THINK they want to get a job and be some badass bread winner but they crumble with piss easy HR thot job sitting on their ass 90% of the shift texting, tiktok because they had to have a new hire sign on boarding papers
>They don’t know what they fucking want
>bitch and moan about being lonely because Brad Pitt isn’t in their DMs, while insisting men could never relate see next point
>utterly delusional seemingly lacking in all awareness of self and the world
>literal NPCs
>every decision they make is based off what gets them the most validation/attention/tribal acceptance, ranging from career choices to how they choose to justify shitty actions to avoid guilt and shame
>have become so delusional they seem to have no idea about the reality that this homosexual wrote until something happens then all they can do is scream and stand there mouth agape paralyzed even if they’re just observing someone get punched 50 feet away
I don’t want to care. It’s almost like I was better off as a total socially inept virgin as a teenager when I didn’t realize all of this and thought they were just real people like anyone else.
have any of you guys ever used an escort? is it always a scam if they ask you to send them money before you meet? I'm not poor but I don't wanna get scammed for $50 because it'll hurt my feelings.
>$50
no escort worth seeing is charging $50 lad
anything less than $200 is either std-ridden or a scam, and even then good escorts are usually $300~ and up
I mean them asking for $50 ahead of time as a deposit. escorting sounds pretty expensive tho.
based jinxchad
haven't personally used an escort but $50 isn't overly alarming imo
you could ask in monger threads on /gif/, lots of escort addicts in there
go to a massage parlor. $60-$80 to the lady in the front, $80-$180 to the asian hooker in the back
based. do you also get a massage while you're at it? that sounds great. massage and then getting your knob polished.
the massage is never worth it. just a charade to justify the house fee
the handjob is legit though, these women do it for a living so you can imagine they have it down
It's not always a scam, but it almost always is. See if she has reviews and make her send you a selfie with the days date written on it to make sure she's real.
Years ago I was complete wreck. No education, no job, no money, debt, lived in a rotten shithole of an appartment because it was the only thing I could afford, depressed, etc etc
Then with the help of some friends I managed to pull myself out of this hole. I got a degree, got a decent job now, enough money to afford a nice appartment, got a car and even took much better care of my body. Got a real haircut, nice, clothes started lifting etc
Still, I'm not happy. Objectively my life became so much better, but I'm not happy at all. If I didn't have a job I probably wouldn't even make it out of bed most days.
I just want to stop feeling bad all the time. But no matter what I do it doesn't seem to get better.
i have a lot of accomplishments and have checked off nearly all of the normie life goals but was feeling pretty shitty earlier this year. i went and got a therapist for a couple months. i don't know if the therapist actually helped or if the mindset that got me to acknowledge i had to change how i was thinking was where the actual change happened.
In 22 minutes I'll be 35, assuming fate doesn't decide to cut things short of course.
happy birthday, buddy
cheers mate
happy birthday lad
thank you too, anon
time I hit the sack, have a nice one lads
Bro when do you know that you’re ready for a relationship again?
Whenever I think about starting a new one I get a bad feeling and just think:
>I could be alone instead of going out with one and have more fun in my free time
Your ready when you meet someone who you feel good about but that doesn't happen if you don't put yourself out there
What does feeling good mean?
Is it when I feel no doubt talking to her?
I fucked up and fell for a girl whilst deployed overseas fellas. She has a boyfriend but never talked about him. Only about a month to go and then the suffering ends. And thoughts or tips?
sure just try to fuck her but do so with the knowledge in mind that if she'll cheat FOR you, then she'll cheat ON you
Yeah I don't want any of that drama so I'm just trying to kill the feelings any idea on how I can do that?
booze or internalizing the idea that 95% of women aren't worth investing in, and when you find one from the 5% you'll know it because it'll be a long-term interest and build from time spent with each other
Thanks brother
no problem lad
learning to differentiate between infatuation and love is difficult but helps massively
t. former massive infatuater
>Can't drink cause I want to lose weight
>Have to drink in order to meet people
This ain't fair.
thats it bros... I am going to make it. Finally started my bulk after a grueling summer cut. Everything is progressing insanely. Went up from 100kg bench and 5x reps to 102,5kg and 7x reps in just 2 workouts. All I have to do now is not somehow fuck it up over the next few months.
does youre gf know you post on SwoleShack?
Most anons have a normie gf and as soon as they see nagger homosexual tossed around here more than once, they will probably have a breakdown and post a tiktok about it
>inb4 projecting
this actually happened to me and got me fired (part time job but still)
>have COVID
>coughing a lot, feel exhausted, and have bad muscle aches
>still working 60-70 hours this week (from home)
The more cardio I do the more I find myself lurking woman hate threads on /misc/
I don't even hate women but I find morbid schadenfreude at their shortcomings. I know this can't be healthy for me in the long run
Blogpost venting below, you were warned
Gym staff and two members were talking about something I did and laughing (not gym related, I also don't know them, no I won't explain, it's extremely mild, no clue why it would even be a topic of conversation).
They aren't aware I over heard what they were talking about.
I've been actively trying to improve myself for a little over two years now and although I've "made it" in certain areas (physique, job, learning, a couple others), I'm still extremely lacking in other areas (mostly friends/dating).
It's much harder to cope with the loneliness when you're actively trying to improve yourself in order to fix it then when you just accepted it and lived life accordingly.
I recognize that it's good that it's bothering me in the sense that it will push me to achieve my goal, but in the short term it's less than ideal...
I'm fine now after I've sat on it for a while, I overreacted which is odd for me, and in the grand scheme of things it doesn't matter I know I will still make it.
I also will have 0 issues going to that gym in the future, I've put it behind me.
But...when driving home tonight, if I was driving my faster vehicle which I was going to take, I likely would of maxed it out on the shitty back road and hit a tree.
If it does end up bothering me, I'll sit on it for at least a month, then at worst slash the one person's tires.
>not I won't elaborate
>yes I will commit vandalism because someone was talking about me
you need therapy bro.
but here's some advice. no amount of self help, improooving, or anything else will help with social skills. You need to just start on them.
You wait until you're 100% perfect with yourself, but at that point you spent too much time alone and you're now optimized for being alone, with hobbies that you do alone, and you find you have no desire to break what's been working for you.
Mocking someone and laughing at them is different than talking about someone.
Yeah I’m trying to become more social, just difficult finding activities to do to find others. I’ve made some progress, went out a couple of times with people I met, just haven’t made any permanent friends yet, it will come. If there were sit down bars where I lived I would go to those and try to meet people. All of the ones near me have private booths and no seating at the bar sadly…and the part of my city where I live is 90%+ non-white recent immigrants that are very closed off and culturally different.
how the fuck do I approach a girl who lifts with her dad? she’s a butterface, but I want her. He never leaves her side, she never goes to gym alone, and the guy has physically confronted others who’ve tried to talk to his daughter.
I’ve been watching them for close to a year now and can’t figure out how to go about it without her dad getting pissed or turning her off
What do you really have to lose anon? Just tell her she's cute when he's in the toilet or something.
You're wasting your life avoiding the potential embarrassment of rejection or a mildly angry gen x dad
Just do it, it really doesn't matter
Get stronger than the dad, and if he's dumb enough to get in your way beat the shit out of him. It'll impress his daughter and make her want you
You don’t.
Just try and get occasional eye contact with her. Like if you walk past each other just quickly lock eyes with her.
Then one day after some more weeks months have passed smile at her when walking past or if your eyes meet.
You dont have to say shit you just build up positive sexual tension this way.
>doing NNN
>fapping anyway, not planning on cumming
>reach almost the end
>HOLD MEN
>orgasm doesn't happen, but some cum leaks through
>don't have the release from the orgasm, but have less 'pressure', if that makes sense
Did you know that the ejaculation process, and orgasm process, while often intertwined, are very separate? You can orgasm as well without the ejaculation. Anyway back to greentexting.
>feels weird releasing cum without the release of the orgasm
I guess technically that NNN hasn't been failed yet, but honestly I'm more worried that doing that might mess up some things.
Like, yeah, stop doing it, I get that, but I'm wondering if I should just fap normally to resynch everything together and then stop.
I'll have a glass of carbonated water, barkeep.
idk what you mean by reset but just stop touching your dick you monkey
>RELEASED CUM during NO NUT November
FAILURE
>been going to the gym for 1.5 years and never talked with or had a girl try to talk to me beyond necessity
>yesterday I end up talking with one of the cutest girls I think I've ever seen at the gym between spotting her on bench
>decently long conversation conversation, good laughs, exchange contact info and so on
I guess trying to train with her at the gym sometime is the next logical step, would be awkward to try to push this any faster. still comprehending the fact that that happened, the whitepill is real bros
Anyone here successfully quit nicotine? Started sporadically at age of 12 (lol), cigs, snus, vape, you name it. At age of 18 I started using snus daily, with occasional vape and cigs. I'm 21 now, tried to quit few times. Longest time's been a month. However cravings never fully subside, I can sit on my bed for hours just having my head filled with massive cravings. No matter how much I distract myself nothing helps
It is possible to get to 6 foot from 5 6 after 20
When I was younger (19-25) I could lose weight while gaining strength. Now (39) I can't even maintain strength while calorie neutral. And my joints are all fucked from years of labour. Can't do deadlifts or squats because my back is basically dust.
how the fuck do i cope knowing that im on a dryspell for a whole year? My life was great before this
Cope by knowing most people here have much longer streaks, many their entire lives.
>always the funny guy throughout childhood through high school, class clown type but also got top grades
>however, didn’t really have any friendships and no relationships and was pretty socially avoidant
>go to college and still socially avoidant, but still could make people laugh wherever I went
>always alone, miserable, and ruined my life
>be the same through my 20s, no life development but still funny guy
>turn 30 and realize I’ve ruined and wasted my entire life with no skills, no career, no friends or relationships, and that now it’s over
>go from the funny always joking guy to now severely depressed, miserable, barely talk to anyone, want to kill myself all the time
Looking back my problem was that I never made any initiative socially. Never tried to ask girls out or try to set up hanging out with people outside of school. It’s over
>khv at 28
>5'8
>Lost interest in everything, barely able to push myself to work out and keep the place from falling apart
>Handful of acquaintances, nobody I trust to reciprocate enough to be friends
I just want it to be over man, I'm only sticking around for my dog and to help my sister through university but once those are crossed off the list I'm likely heading to a Canadian maid cafe
Blogpost I guess but at least it's something that shows I was here
>have a cold again
Any broscience on how to not get sick so often? I'm fitter than ever, but I've been getting sick once a month this whole year for no reason
I cant handle another interview bros. Its soul crushing that i had to turn down the only job offer i got because i couldnt afford to commute into the city.
Im at the point where if my life was a game i would just start a clean save.
>Be known as a hard stoic guy
>Go to the gym
>Go back and enter home
>Have a massive cry or like 15 minutes
>Put myself together
>Hell yeah let's rock and roll
Any other man has this?
every time
I cried last night because I disappoint Christ every day. I guess if a man is to cry he may as well cry before the Lord.
Glass of water please
I finally got 5 reps of 50kg OHP, 5 reps of 70.25kg bench
My row is still shite and DL form is bad
But i really look a lot mor muscular than a year ago damn
you are probably push pressing. your ohp is way to high compared to your bench. either your bench is doodoo or you are not doing strict ohp (which is more realistic). also get rid of dl.
OHP is as strict as can be, now pushing, no hip movement bs
>get rid of dl
???
Maybe he just trains OHP more. My numbers are roughly the same because I only did overhead press for a year and no benching
Would it be an okay idea to move out but not truly be ready for it?
If I live frugally it would mean occasionally dipping $100-$300 into savings each month to make ends meet, but I have enough saved that even after 5 years of that I would still have over $20k saved. Taking the occasional overtime would mean it wouldn’t even be every single month I have to do that, likely just $1000-$1500 a year from my savings. It would enable me to get by until I get my raises and can start adding to my savings while making ends meet. But it would basically be
>work, overtime as I can get it
>grow some of my own food plants (potatoes can be grown in a bucket, veggies table top garden), dollar store items (toiletries and shit), coupons and buying my other food (eggs & chicken) from walmart
>spend no money on hobbies, the hobbies I have don’t require any money to be spent
>no social life (lol)
And I wouldn’t even have to grow my own plants, it’s just one measure I could take to cut costs. I already have a home gym that I could fit inside a 1:1 apartment (rack bench plates etc) it would just mean storing everything inside the rack if the space bothers me
A beer
How do I get over fear?
I have to have my teeth pulled and due to childhood trauma I’m positively terrified, last time I had surgery I escaped the chair mid op and it took my father and two dentists to get me back in the chair and finish.
Mind you I’m not scared of anything else, I’ve been in more than one life or death situation but the fear of the dentist is something I’ve never defeated.
see it as an upgrade to your body
Tell them.
Call them and speak to the actual dentist so it isn’t just an underling giving them a shitty and watered down version of your story, but do it in advance so that they can do their math and be sure about things.
That shit (you losing your god damned mind) doesn’t sound beneficial to you or the dentist so it’s probably in their best interest to sedate you.
my pstd ridden ex girlfriend made me feel like shit the other day when i talked with her, she's lying about everything and i should be happy that' we're done, but my mind lingers alot
wh are you talking to a literal cunt
random encounter
delete block that shit ffs anon FOR FUCKS SAKE
we don't talk otherwise, no texting, not following her on social media etc. but my friend told me she had bikini pictures up, when we're together she didn't have it. I think it was her plan to cry and manipulate my feelings while telling me lies
>but my friend told me she had bikini pictures up
tell your fucking friend to not tell you about her, what a shit friend man
no no, he has also deleted her and his girlfriend did the same, but it was like 2 weeks after we split, we have split before and got together but i told him we weren't getting back together, so he deleted her and said sorry after i told him i don't follow her
ok good now tell that bitch to stick it, go lift iron and fucing live your life the way you want anon
thanks man, my body has improved since we split, we saw each other a few times after, so stopped contact a month ago, so the random encounter was a set back. But i'm still training and eating better, so there's that
do not lift for her, do not lift for the moment to show off eventually
lift for your life
do not ANON HEAR ME OUT do not lift for "maybe down the road" NO DO NOT
i don't, i always trained for myself, so i like it that i have "more" time to gym etc. she also said " oh now you're going hard in the gym, because we're not together anymore" but i told her i have more time because she's not taking all my free time
YGMI king
thanks man
water for me thanks.
I joined the Navy for a job I didn't qualify for in the civie world. It's not worth it bros, the amount of bs in basic made me hate the military (you're at the mercy of morons). Stay in school and learn a skill
Loose skin is very demoralizing.
I'm still in it but it's hard.
There's this girl that I'm casually dating. We talk on the phone, hang out, get food together, and have sex sometimes. I've introduced her to my friends as well. I like her but I don't want to commit to her as a full boyfriend. Bother her and I are free to date other people.
This weekend I was drinking with my brother and his gf and they were both really adamant that I need to have another relationship talk with this girl. Saying that she probably thinks that we're more serious than we really are and that I should make sure. I don't want to because I don't want to mess up something that's fulfilling for me. But they're right and I don't want to hurt this girl's feelings, she's really nice.
Gym crush came in new shorts today. Pristine
started watching the office and the jim/pam scenes are making seethe at being lonely
>suddenly miss my high school gf
God I hate my stupid fuck brain
t. 25 year old
is the flu shot dangerous?
i am forced to get one for school otherwise im barred from campus
Pretty much nothing anon. Just some dead virus and some excipients to stimulate your immune system. Basic as fuck and well studied.
Youre the best, Lloyd.
Getting SwoleShack again is going mostly well Anons, about to hit 1pl8 again on the bench around Sunday. Personal life is going well too, the only thing that isn't it I don't want to say I've come to regret breaking up with my now Ex.
But a part of me desperately wants her back and I don't know why. I did fine for two months without her now I've fixed everything I couldn't when I was a NEET I just... Really wanted to fix *everything*.
Even though she treated me poorly something is deluding me to think one last call, one last talk a real talk would fix it all.
Similar here except she fucked up and I felt still do feel like my only option was to leave. Freudian slip threatened to cheat on me, wouldn’t even apologize or own it just gaslighted me about it.
It’s a shitty feeling, like we regret it. But we left for a reason. And I think some of the regret is genuine loneliness and just lack of the female companionship we grew used to having.
Anon your scenario is eerily similar to mine. Though for me she started acting cagey about sex. She started getting highly distant, made me resent her.
I had to cut it off as it turned into one large catch-22 we both weren't happy I just, I remember the happy times, when we wanted to marry each other, when we were both passionate about each other.
I want that girl I knew back.
I'm an attractive guy that hasn't had his first kiss yet since it's something I wanted to dedicate to my future life partner. I want a girl who's the same in that regard, so I hope I can find advice in regards to finding her.
Grateful for every ounce of advice!
I know a Catholic Christian girl who might be up your alley lad. Shame she's in North Dakota at the minute.
She wants to wait until marriage for sex and has never kissed anyone. Downside (I guess) is she's 26.
Oh, I'm 8 years younger than her, so maybe not the right call for me. Plus I live in Europe. But I'd still appreciate any type of advice or help that you might have access to due to you knowing her. Also open to exchange Discords or whatever if you think it's better to talk there instead of here. Thanks!
We met by happenstance but I know her sister too and both know quite a few similar Catholic women in the States from the Midwest.
Few should be popping over to Ireland in a bit so I might pop over and see if I can get a new gf tbh.
Good luck!
Does anyone else compile a folder full of notes on their phone? She blocked me since our breakup so i have created a folder and just make a note every time I start thinking about her. I keep writing whatever comes into my head and usually ramble on for a few pages until I stop when I reach some point of crying, anger, satisfaction, contempt, etc
bonus question: she cheated on me twice and I’m still trying to pursue a relationship with her because I am a retard with no self respect + severe attachment issues
forgot the question because I am indeed retarded.
Why should I not kill myself ?
You're living in your head chasing the imaginary version of her you created. She isn't what you need, just what you think you need.
You should kill "yourself" by deleting all that gay shit you're hording on your phone now and then go be someone else tomorrow.
I have no motivation for anything anymore. My girlfriend left me because she knew that I wouldn’t be able to provide the kind of life that we both wanted us to have. What motivated me in life was to work hard and eventually find someone who I loved and knew unquestioningly that they felt the same about me, even and especially so through the ups and downs that we would always have each other, and that love would be enough. The truth is that it only exists through the ups, and will be entirely lost on the downs. This realization has destroyed me. Everything that I was working for is not possible, is not reachable, because it was simply never there. So, why do anything at all?
Call me a loser who cares too much about what women want and not about what I want. All I want out of life is a woman that loves me, so what's the point if they don't exist. It's all transaction.
Nah bro, they'll stay with a "loser" they do it all the time. It's just your needy, bitch boy vibes
I'm sorry, I'm the same way.
You need to act like you don't care about them, that they are secondary to your life.
Every successful relationship that I have seen has been this way, a self absorbed man and a woman that needs to beg for his attention.
This lovey dovey stuff is only sought by women as side action, they see their husband as their new dad.
Again I'm really sorry, Everytime I thought I could just love them it's been this way
Life is pretty much on easy mode
Low expenses, own a home, disability income, two remote jobs, paid off truck, majority custody of my son and most other metrics in control.
My only two issues: my mother and my ex are the only social interactions that I have with the world. My ex, even though she’s an ex for a fucked up thing she did, is only annoying when she wants something from me. I say no and she wines and nothing happens. My mother on the other hand, is an unbearable human being. Thinks that she has rights over her grandson and helps me in no way. Helps my ex when she needs help with our son than she helps me. Her excuse? “I know baby is okay with you whereas not with her”. Doesn’t want me dating cause she worries I end up dating women she doesn’t like. Has set me up with single mothers before I want nothing with.
I love my son and since I have majority custody, it is difficult to go out and meet women and spend time bonding with them.
I think is best to give up on dating until he reaches a good age. 10-14yrs old. He will be six soon. Suggestions from other single dads with majority custody?
PS: 30s men are mostly trash grown babies who need to ask wifey for permission to do anything. Making friends at this age is hard.
I'm such a massive coomer my last two girlfriends have been escorts.
blog post incoming.
I've noticed that everything I do or want to do in life has a high cost of failure and I'm reluctant to keep trying due to the sacrifices I've made
>failed math and stats multiple times in college, took time off for mental health and over 5 years to get bachelor's
>train in kickboxing for a few years, lose several fights, a bit concerned about brain health later in life
>failed white collar career, risk being a NEET in my 30s
>didn't date or even interact with women in college or young adult life, would look like a complete sperg trying now especially with my issues
>get interested in cars and engineering, would have to go back to school and possibly go up to masters if I want a viable career in cars beyond a wrench monkey
I want to try and learn so many things but get frozen by the sunk cost and the chance that I won't have anything to show for it. With everyone already doubting me and disappointed with how I turned out, I can't afford to fuck up and lose what I have.
>failed math and stats multiple times in college, took time off for mental health and over 5 years to get bachelor's
And you still managed to graduate.
>train in kickboxing for a few years, lose several fights, a bit concerned about brain health later in life
I did the same with boxing baring the fights. Been thinking about giving Kyokushin a try since I also fear brain damage.
>failed white collar career, risk being a NEET in my 30s
Same as me. White colar isn't the be all end all of life. I personally think it's a dreadful way to live. I've been looking for public servant jobs on the short term. Having a security blanket when it comes to money/career will help me pursue new things without the "I'm a boomer neet" neurosis. Tbh I've been toying with the idea of pursuing a physiotherapy degree on the side after getting the job and specializing in prosthetics after graduating.
>didn't date or even interact with women in college or young adult life, would look like a complete sperg trying now
Dating is a skill anon. I went from a sperg to someone who can reasonably hold his spaghetti on a date and so can you. Women can be kind towards your circumstances too. My ex had all the patience in the world with my depressed neetdom.
>get interested in cars and engineering, would have to go back to school and possibly go up to masters if I want a viable career in cars beyond a wrench monkey
Go for it. Don't expect it to go wrong or right. Just expect the thing itself. I'll start a short israeliteelry making course soon. Dunno what'll come out of it but I don't wanna spend the rest of my life wondering. Also, aim for some cool short term goals too. Maybe you've always wanted to learn x language or visit y place. Treat it like a side quest. In my case as soon as I get the job I'm taking weekend lessons on how to sail and maintain a boat.
Im healthy as fuck. i have been lean and athletic all my life. low bf. workout 5 days a week (weights, hiit, cardio, boxing, rope) my hormones are on the high end of normal. i usually get asked if im on something. and i do feel the testosterone: im a highly irrigatable guy and my anxiety is off the charts.
that said im completely unable to have sex. my dick gets momentarily hard and loses hardness right away. trying to have sex with my gf was insanely taxing on the body. theres no chance i can keep hard for penetration. and im a cardio guy. id rather i was running up a mountain. in all honestly, i cannot fathom how sex can be considered a "fun" activity.
i like the female form but i absolutely hate sex and the idea of it. i have to take 100mg of viagra to be able to complete the deed. it's a horrible extremely tiresome process with a lot of grunting and sweeting that has absolutely no benefits or any pleasant sensation.
my perfect relationship would be one with sex happening maybe once a month because i know first hand women love to pretend but actually value sex very highly so a sexless relationship is not realistic.
Bro you're gay
>Bro you're gay
>being disabled is gay
thanks bro
>being disabled is gay
Other way around
an espresso and 2 nicotine gums, my man.
I have applied to 100 jobs in 2 weeks. I need something to change. I cannot go on being a NEET. But I have no idea what else I could do. I'm so blackpilled bros.
Went on my morning walk at 4am today, I think I saw a ghost around the corner at the end of the street from my house. I was walking down that way and at the very end I was a human silhouette moving in a non human way. The whole thing kind of floated and shifted backwards and to the side into the street then disappeared, reappeared in its original spot, then floated backwards across the street and disappeared again. At first I thought fuck it idgaf, I don’t fuck with the ghost it doesn’t fuck with me. If it does fuck with me, I’ll fuck with it even harder. Keeping in mind that one green text about the SwoleShack autist who moved into a ghost house and started throwing dead snakes at the wall and shit, just showing no fear. But the closer I got to the end the weirder I felt, idk how to explain it it felt ominous and then I started worrying if it’s real and shit what if it follows me home and I pussed out and turned back walked a different way.
>Halloween decoration
Definitely wasn’t
>a living human
No it wasn’t.
Idk what that shit was, either my mind playing tricks and there wasn’t even anything there or I saw a fucking ghost.
Why do you guys look fit but act like pornsick cuck lovers online? Doesnt match your appearance
I’m 27 but I still feel the same as I was 17, however I’m now getting noticeably older and my body isnt the same anymore. I’m autistic and I’m scared of growing up bros
Yeah same shit dude same ages. At age 20 I felt like I was still 10. Age 22 I felt like I was mentally around 14. I used to hate this but I’m beginning to see a bright side.
If I could get my shit together, I basically get to be a 17 year old in a grown man’s body with money and shit. Once I’m 40, I’ll mentally be in my 20s/30s still. But after 50 it will have caught up since the gap in wisdom between a 40 year old and 50 year old aren’t anything crazy, same with 70 and 60 or 80 and 70 if I make it that long.
> If I could get my shit together
You have to get your shit together. Time is running out
It means you haven't matured since your teenage years. You might have issues that keep you stuck in the past.
What advancement in life have you made since high school?
Growing older happens to everyone, but you have to choose MATURITY. There's nothing cool about being 17 in a 40 year old body
Honestly taking a moment to think about it and after reading your guys’ replies, you’re right. This is why I’m like this. I’m 27, still live at home, not much has changed for me since I left highschool. I’ve wasted the last 10 years. One can argue in in an even worst position now despite not much changing by the simple fact that I’m 27 and still in the same life circumstances I was at 17.
Gonna apply for a trade apprenticeship. I think getting a real job, moving out, becoming independent and self sufficient is a good start.
However, I don’t know what comes after that. How did I level up beyond that? Don’t mean to get too far ahead of myself while I have more important and immediate shit to worry about and should just get a job and move out first. But what, is that all it takes to feel my age, job + self sufficient + have own place? Nothing else? Surely there’s more
you live life little nigga. you’re late to the game but at least you’re getting to play. you just live your life. find out what goals you have and set up paths to those goals stick to it. All the other shit will come as you go.
All I can really imagine is
>own some land, preferably over 15 acres
>build shit like solar and rain water collection to cut bills, grow some of my one food, raise some animals
>do a lot of fishing, get a couple dogs, if I can meet a decent woman to put some children inside of
But idk how realistic or unrealistic that is.
Looked into it, trade apprentice applications aren’t enrolling until 2025. I’m going to try to get whatever job I can immediately though. Either helper position or just some grocery wagecuck. Save my money, start paying some of my bills instead of being a leech, get the apprenticeship for 2025, and move up from there, move out into a studio when I have like $25k saved.
I just want the animation industry, hell the media development industry as a whole including games and whatnot to do a 180 from where it is now so I can better hold onto the hope I'll be able to make my own series one day
I'm gonna keep doing art no matter what but it doesn't help seeing everything so dire what with greedy corpos and DEI meddling propping up these shit stories
What do you mean by where it is now?
The same place as most media, pandering to fragile naggers and putting more focus and emphasis on pandering to the pussy ass homosexual work agenda than on making quality content?
Pretty much yeah
I have a lot of faith in the indie scene ushering in a golden age for animation specifically but fuck me did Vivziepop give us an uphill battle with her fanfic-tier slop of a "show"
The American sphere is especially bad since they can exploit Korean sweatshop workers while making people do multiple roles for the pay of one here in the states, not to mention a myriad of other problems.
Hopefully the union has its shit together for the next round of strikes come 2024, it won't solve the pandering issue but at least it'll ideally mend some foundational issues with the job system as a whole here
Guinness please. Just got a new job at some lab. Life is kinda going a little bit better I guess, still forever alone though.
after graduating and spending 4 months bumming around the house, i signed up to be a paratrooper. got a meeting with a recruiter tomorrow
I have ghosted a milf that was into me and I want to talk to her and fuck her again
whats the best way to initiate conversation
>woman who is sort of my gf started talking shit about money and me being broke and how we are two broke people
>get slightly offended pointout that I have money I just don't waste it like she does
>we go back and forth, she starts making fun of my clothes and my car
>points out that I don't have any knickknacks on my shelves
>I'm on the complete defensive not even thinking clearly just wanted to prove I'm not broke
>end up sending her rent money
>wake up, look at my account, realize what I've done get mad at her for tricking me
>after my workout realize she didn't trick me at all, I'm just REALLY stupid
fellas, should I end myself? Not only am I stupid my first instinct is to blame others for my retarded mistakes.
>get slightly offended pointout that I have money I just don't waste it like she does
This was a fatal mistake. Don't get emotionally invested in petty arguments like this. She was testing to see how secure you are with your finances. Seeing as how you stumbled and tried to prove yourself for her approval, she's most likely lost a great deal of respect for you. Other Anons with more women experience can chime in, but I'd say find a way out of that situation ASAP.
That being said.. if you truly ARE struggling with finances, you need to increase your earning potential regardless if she stays or not. What do you for work and is there room for growth? Are you living a minimalist lifestyle or barely getting by?
He needs to break up with her.
Once a woman sees she can be flat out disrespectful like that, AND have it be rewarded, it will never end. Like there’s a line you just don’t cross, and this is especially true in the context of women. If they cross a line and don’t face immediate repercussions/get checked immediately then they will never stop.
In this case the way to check that would have been in the moment (that ship has sailed) and without getting emotional just telling her “okay. So what are you about to get into?” Or some other way of politely kicking her out of his house. If she doesn’t leave, you proceed to dumping her. You give her a final chance to take accountability for being disrespectful, to acknowledge that shit isn’t gonna fly with you, tell her that shit isn’t going to occur again if you’ll continue dating, if she doesn’t own it, apologize and maybe suck you off, then you dump her on the spot.
I personally would have, and have in my own dating life, left her immediately for being verbally disrespectful like that. I simply don’t have time to waste on a nasty bitch.
***And btw, there are times a woman will be disrespectful like that to motivate her man because she sees potential in him and doesn’t want to leave him. But that usually only comes after she’s urged you to improve the correct ways for a long time and you haven’t changed shit. That doesn’t sound like his experience
Another thing, he should have immediately just shrugged it off instead of getting offended and proved her wrong with his actions. Get a raise, better job, take her out to do something she can’t afford. Tell her maybe she can help him shop for some of those homosexual ass “knickknacks” for his shelves. Etc.
No man. Theres only a few ways to recover but they all include leaving her. And the main reason you need to leave her is that she has no respect for you, this will not be a happy relationship ever.
>first option
Just cut contact and move forward. Recover the lost money immediately by being single. Improve life, get more money, meet a woman who doesn’t behave like a stuck up entitled retarded shit filled cunt.
>option 2
I don’t recommend this BUT
Either stay with her for a bit longer, or break up without actually breaking up just start ignoring her leave her on all your social media. Fake flex (I said I don’t recommend, it’s faggy). Rent a car afte r a few weeks of radio silence and just causally have a friend video tape you for your social media story in the car. Then when she hyu just tell her “it’s over, I’m up now” and ghost.
Again, very petty, bitch tier shit, but it’ll make her seethe. You can rent a lambo for not too much for a night.
>option 3
Spend the night at her place, steal from her, then break it off.
Don’t do this. Same shit, bitch tier homosexual move. But it IS one option.
Best move is option one. This bitch doesn’t have any respect for you and will jump on the first dick of a man she feels is doing better the first chance she gets. End it now while it’s not really a big deal, rather than be posting in this thread in 6 months saying
>my gf who I paid rent for cheated on me after calling me broke wahh I feel so stupid I should have listened to that anon who gave me multiple options to prevent this wahh
Like dude thats whats gonna happen if you don’t leave her. You will never respect yourself unless you start practicing it now and dump her, and you have an obligation to do so for the next dude she meets, she has to learn being an entitled disrespectful cunt is not okay. But most importantly you have to eliminate that toxicity form your life. As you said, she’s taking a toll on your mental and making you act foolish
How do you guys cope with stress from work ? I do all kinds of activites and its stil not enough. Anons who do not work in a desired field, do you think starting to develop new skills at 32 is too late? I cant imagine to be bossed around by a 25 year old if I start working in a new field.
No it’s not too late. I’ve seen many people do that, and the men who seemed to have their shit together the most didn’t get bosses around and the younger mid 20s managers seemed to desperately seek their approval. They were mostly silent, only talked when necessary, showed up, did their work, worked hard, excelled, but didn’t go above and beyond either. Literally just
>appearance
>demeanor
Granted these were retail jobs and I’m fairly certain they said they just needed a second job for a while when interviewing as to not seem like a total loser.
What field are you in, why do you hate it, and what fields are you interested in?
>What field are you in, why do you hate it, and what fields are you interested in?
International transport, I menage truck drivers, plan their trips and so on. They are abosulute retards so you are basically a babysitter and all the responsibility of their mistakes falls on you.
>what fields are you interested in?
I have accepted that my degrees are worthless and that I will do what I love only as a hobby. (art) And thats okay. I''m not sure they most enjoyable job I have had was in a restaurant because there's still planning involved but the team makes it great. Other than that I have thought about taking a few courses in either SCRUM ( altthough that filed is over saturated with people ) or try go for something art/design related but I feel like im a bit old to chase that dream again. Other than that, maybe some job that has organising and people involved but not absolute tards.
forgot to ad, you basically have no off days, no holidays and they may call you at any time for some bullshit. Overtime is not payed, neither is work during holidays.
Here’s my recommendation:
Learn graphic design in free time, start by making shit for yourself just learning to use the programs online but doing designs FOR you based on your art style.
Stay in current job, get any certs needed for graphic design. Begin making ads, build a portfolio and some social media pages build a following just spamming your shit. Eventually get clients, build a portfolio of actual shit you’ve been conditioned to make. Eventually raise pricing. When you’re able to make like $20k off it, then consider going restaurant I would assume you’d be taking a pay decrease to do that.
Continue building that up, freelance your other artistic skills for non graphic design type art, same shit build social media and portfolios get to position you can charge more and more.
Worst case scenario, your hobby is a hobby that occasionally profits. Moderate case scenario, it earns you an extra 20 grand. Best case you do well enough to pay your bills with art.
I’ll send a second response about the management job because I do feel for you.
I have worked for a short time in graphic design but yeah, I think its worth a second shot. I have been told many times I have some talent so would be a shame to waste it.
That sounds excrusiating, I dont know how managers do it, you either have to have a hard on to be ordering people around or you have to don't care too much about anything. Personally, I get too caught up in people's mistakes and just get angry. I hope you are doing sometning more fufilling now and thanks for the advice, bro. A lot of times talking to anons in these threads helps more than talking to friends. You make les excuses in front of stranges I have noticed.
I’m the same way, I get pissed off over stupid mistakes that there’s no excuse to make. Like constant ongoing coaching for the entirety of their employment, me going out of my way to send them instruction manuals/guides to refer to for anything they’re unsure about which I made in my spare time off the clock.. and I still get bitched out by the top boss and have to take it with a smile because they put some 50 year old patients DOB as todays date and now insurance is fucking with us, when all it took was taking 15 seconds to proof read what you typed in, or just lmk then and there they made a mistake so I could have it fixed before it was too late, or just plain going slower.. yeah bro it sucked and I know some of what you’re going through, or can imagine kind of.
Anyways man I wish you luck, I think you’ll do great with some grinding and if you’ve got passion for art and have already done some graphic design in the past. I have an interest in graphic design too something I’ve been doing, as I get the ideas for it, is making a mock product and emailing the design to smaller/newer brands with a brief description of what the product is, asking them for any feedback on what they think, offering it for free but saying I’d like some opportunities to work with them just in hopes that they’d hire me or give me some commissions and pay me.
It’s an idea to consider trying. I’ve had no luck so far but haven’t done taht more than three times and I’m super new with design, self teaching off YouTube using photoshop and gimp and some other software. I would image with skill, and doing that enough one could have some decent monthly income off that, maybe even get hired at a company.
There are drivers which if i dont tell them to fual up they will en up driving until empty. It makes you a really cynical person because you realise we are not all equal at all . Yeah man, I tried some stuff but was depressed for years and did fuck all art-wese.But recently I have been trying to make a new habit of it and just enjoy it. Thanks a lot for the advice. jJust keep at it bro, im sure you will land the job you want in the furure. All the best
>management
Dude I get what you mean. I fucking hated being a manager. My whole life everyone’s told me I’m meant to be a manager I’d be a great one all the aptitude tests I’ve taken told me it’s what I’m best suited for. I knew even as a teenager it’s not for me. Finally did it for like 2 years and hated my life. It was in the medical field and these fucking medical professionals were bumbling idiots. Nurses, medics, EMTs, CNAs, etc all fucking retarded. Their job was piss easy, it wasn’t in an ER or anything. It was quite literally read questions off a PT intake form, launch zoom off an iPad for them to speak to our PA, do whatever non invasive testing or interventions the PA tells them (99% was just taking vitals maybe some blood if in scope of practice). And they consistently fucked it up and made these mistakes which I had to answer for.
This often made me work an extra 4-6 hours just sitting in the office going through hundreds of patient docs fixing mistakes ranging from misspelled names/incorrect DOB, to having to account for testing we did but didn’t charge them for. It was bullshit. I had maybe 4 days off and they’d blow me up every 10 minutes with stupid questions they knew the answer to (I held their hand for weeks 1on1 showing them the ropes), or demanding I had to come in to solve some crisis which disappeared when I finally got there. Seemingky they were mad I dared to take a single fucking day off.
I have often described the ex prince how you did: an over glorified babysitter for grown adults who didn’t know their ass from a hole in the ground.
There were maybe 3 employees on the team who were competent, 1 of which still gave me problems on occasion.
this best way to "work" after work, i need something to fill up my nights, after i split with my ex, i have plenty of free time, usually i'm with friends on the weekends. How to get into a rhythm so i don't waste hours doing nothing after work
Vodka, sugar-free Red Bull, and lemonade please.
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Crappy disorganized client full of employees that couldn't care less is delaying another project and trying to pass blame
Not even supposed to be working with them this week, but they delayed into another client’s time
Not gonna continue working with them, but trying to stay professional so they'll pay their bills
Just need to last the week, then I can go back to the clients I like and have time to lift during the day again
I'm exhausted, gonna go send a third email stating if they don't do the next step the project can't finish
>ask for a raise
>get shut down with a shitty compromise
>agree to talk again this march
>mean while I gotta come up with a strategy until december 10 and execute it until late march decently
thats 50% more work for maybe 3.5% annual raise
goddamn it, back to linkedin I guess
Pro tip:
Before you ever ask for a raise, put in 80% of your max with 90% bursts when needed. Just enough to be better than everyone in your same roll. Prove yourself, wait for others to make mention of your accomplishments. Ensure the difference you're making is known and they, bosses included, know it’s only there due to you. Ensure shit depends on YOU and only you to run as efficiently as it is.
Then ask for a raise, if you don’t get it tell them no problem, go home, email him saying something to the effect of “it has been a pleasure and I thank you for this opportunity, however I feel I am not being fairly I now dated for my efforts and need to take other opportunities up on their offers. After [tomorrows date] I will no longer be available to work on this team].” And then ghost your boss if he blows you up. Ghost him for like 3 days or a week, allow them to panic and see the difference in how shit runs without you. Then reply to his emails/texts, and see if he’s more agreeable.
But you then must be prepared to put in 85% at all times. Never go past 90%. And I wouldn’t do this unless the difference in pay was like a $20k raise which obviously most jobs aren’t going to give you.
This works best in startup companies. I did this, was making my boss millions in net profits. Entire operation depended on me. Waited until he was getting married and hit him with this the week of his wedding. Dude bumped me from $16/hr to $28.
thanks anon
I have a tricky situation, I'm an expat so I cant risk not being employed, so I cant pull of stunts
but I'm new to in house gigs so I treat everything as a learning experience
I had a somewhat awkward incident today that a couple of years ago would've made me physically ill. Today it left me completely unfazed and I just continued like nothing happened. Sometimes it's really the small things that remind you how far you've come.
I like a girl from my workplace who doesn't like me back. A few coworkers always insult her behind her back for no reason and I know it shouldn't, but it really pisses me off.
I don't want to say anything about it though because i already asked her out and failed miserably. I'm just glad she didn't tell anyone (at least i think so). I'm such a loser, why am i even getting invested in this?
In the long run it may be for the best it didn’t work out for you two. You shouldn’t fuck where you work
>redhead who got sexual with me and sent nudes is acting like it never happened the day after
I'm not gonna be like a pajeet and go all "show bobs and vagene" when the mood is gone but fuck pretending you're some virginal damsel. This bipolar atitude most women have towards sex grinds my gears.
>tee hee, I'm the world's biggest slut
>sex? why do you mention it? I'm not sexual at all
It's all so tiresome. I can barely tolerate much of their bullshit before calling it quits and still feel like a monkey jumping through hoops. Dunno how so many men manage to endure ten times as much.
Maybe I should keep chatting her up but spending days gaming her and using jedi mind tricks just to have what'll probably be mediocre sex with someone who can't even last an hour sounds like a waste of time.
gayanons don't know how lucky they are. I can't even fathom how it is to go out with someone who has accountability.
>Dunno how so many men manage to endure ten times as much.
Low self worth will make you do pretty cringe shit
At least you've got the abundance mindset for the most part, I wouldn't recommend full on blocking her but just don't hit her up anymore
If she's already invested nudes in you she definitely wants to keep you in her back pocket, just don't let her take the ball from you
>If she's already invested nudes in you she definitely wants to keep you in her back pocket, just don't let her take the ball from you
I think she was just horny. Dunno how many times some woman has sent me nudes and then split. The difference being that this one didn't disappear after and we keep replying to each other's texts. Still, its not like she has been putting much of an effort on them. I'll just much her energy with the next reply and that'll probably be that.
All in all the whole thing is a shame because she's the only woman I met these last few weeks who seemed both dtf and not insane/full of STDs.
You'll get the next one bro, good luck
Thanks.
Ok theres a girl I know that likes to wear see through panties as a single what does this mean
I genuinely don't want to dislike women, but I went back to college recently and feeling pretty demoralised about the state of things with them, one the other day I met at a social thing and within the hour she was telling the group of people I was with how she had to take plan B this morning, another was talking about all the guys that helped her out with coursework, it just makes me miserable about things, probably doesn't help that I'm terminally single either
If you scroll up you’ll see two long posts about feeling similarly to you. I’m the anon who posted later saying he doesn’t want to hate women but just can’t help but notice how there isn’t much to like about them. In short my post said they all have life on easy mode, get treated like they have it on hard mode, and they act like they have it way harder than anyone.
Something I think of when it’s on my mind and I catch myself seething is the story about that lady who cosplayed as a man for a few years to prove how easy men have it and realized how wrong she was and wrote a book then killed herself from how shitty the experience was.
Let me clarify how much of a statement that is. They’re so fucking weak that just a few years of what men deal with daily for a life time caused her to be successful in something nosy women fail at doing(suicide). Coincidentally this keeps me from ending it. I can’t be as weak as something I look down on so heavily.
I don’t really care if it’s misogynistic but I don’t believe women should have rights, be allowed to work.
>I don’t really care if it’s misogynistic but I don’t believe women should have rights, be allowed to work.
Good man, letting them vote was a disaster. It's no coincidence every society in history saw the need to reign them in
I believe they should work actually, but only in certain traditionally female rolls like as a teacher.
So much of this country is broken man. Womens suffrage, the whole feminist movement and the damages it’s caused (what we now have for women today), trannies, immigration, nigs, nigs rioting over a junkie ODing and no one really caring, inflation and wages (you could buy a house at age 20-25 in the 70s, thanks reagan), etc etc.
I think the only way it could get worst is either there’s another WW and they draft us (imagine getting sent to die for the interest of rich politicians and other counties who hate us) or if they give blacks reparations.
Idk where I would go, but I want to flee this country and find somewhere that I can buy up some land. It would suck doing that all alone though. Honestly been wondering about the Faroe Islands. Just get away from all this BS.
>So much of this country is broken man. Womens suffrage, the whole feminist movement and the damages it’s caused (what we now have for women today), trannies, immigration, nigs, nigs rioting over a junkie ODing and no one really caring, inflation and wages (you could buy a house at age 20-25 in the 70s, thanks reagan), etc etc.
As long as they worship their false god of democracy and equality then nothing will change. They literally can't justify any of their views and just blurt out "equality" to justify them as if that means anything.
>Idk where I would go, but I want to flee this country and find somewhere that I can buy up some land
I've thought the same but I don't have the means to do so. If God even wills for me to have children I have no idea how I'll raise them in this hellscape
>I believe they should work actually, but only in certain traditionally female rolls like as a teacher.
I agree but only once she has raised her children to a suitable age
>Something I think of when it’s on my mind and I catch myself seething is the story about that lady who cosplayed as a man for a few years to prove how easy men have it and realized how wrong she was and wrote a book then killed herself from how shitty the experience was.
Don't badmouth one of the few prominent women who gave a fuck about men. She didn't played at being a man to shittalk us, she was genuinely curious about how life as a male was like. She was also very sympathetic towards men and both her book and her interviews always portrays us in a good light and say women have no idea how hard it is. She even mentions how dating women as a man is a nightmare since she went undercover on a few dates. She also didn't kill herself because of the experience, she did it because she had previously been suicidal for years. I know the things from your post are spammed here but that's just deranged incels stupid to the point of attacking one of the rare women who would be sympathetic to their plight.
Any aussies around? How do I glass a cunt without getting a fistful of broken glass?
Anyone ITT manage to turn it around post-30? How did you do it?