thing is, my father was a tree climber for over 30 yrs. has a similar build. theres something about enough nature that can provide this build. was base it off basedboys working out inside a building.
I think its possible with intense workout outside.
my father never really 'dieted' but naturally he ate clean. prob 30% carbs, 60% proteins, 10% fats. he loved his oysters and seafood.
all we have to compare is people that workout inside a gym.
but he should test live or let someone against him pick a doctor so its random ect.
but i think hes natty
also ill add. consider... theres something about our human identity that adds the development of the body. >example
based on who you are, u can get pissed anout anything. causing ur heart rate and blood pressure to rise. thats just the basics. imagine living everyday thinking ur a "primal". thats moving creating/ activating DNA. we already know DNA 'sleeps' and can be turnt off/on.
these peak 'natty' goody rich boys in the gym arent thinking with the identity of a 'primal'. so they dont get the liverking body.
anyways im open for opinions
He’s right you know. I literally will myself to be bigger/stronger. I don’t lose/gain weight through diet. I literally will my gains into existence. When I want to cut, I lose weight. When I want to bulk, I gain it, just by wanting it. A dyel like you couldn’t possibly know the advantages provided by a powerful mind.
Do not speak to me unless your father is a distinguished tree climber himself
1 year ago
Anonymous
As a matter of fact he is. He re-invented the art of climbing trees as we know it, this lead to winning the Nobel prize in Horticulture Ascenscion in 1995.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Oh lord. I did not know your father is Edward "The Gecko" Libowitz. My apologies.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Didn't they write a book about that guy? A Canker for Libowitz or something like that?
You’re right about the benefits of nature bro but you’re remembering your father through the eyes of an admiring child. This guy is a fraud and not nearly as cool as your dad.
You're a dyel and so is everyone not immediately calling you as such. Liver king is obviously juiced to the gills to anyone who has been lifting for over a year. I'm sure it's his meme diet and Le caveman marketing gimmick that makes him that big and that lean at his age.
if by this you mean to say that your daddy sucked the sweet sweet ball juice of each and every gym monkey in the city directly from the veiny source I am inclined to believe you
You're an idiot and only remembering what your child brain processed. There's no fucking way your dad looked like this frauding roid tranny. If he was that big he certainly wasn't anywhere close to that lean and if he was that lean he wouldn't have been anything close to the size nature boner guzzler is
I'm a tree climber and I'm strong as fuck, also flabby. Depends on the person. I can always bench 315 no matter how long I've been away from weights though.
i love it how the fake natty / admitting you are just on TRT has brainwashed people into actually believing it lol.
yeah just taking 500mg test will turn u into ifbb pro lol
You are a brain dead homosexual if you really think that running more testosterone will make you look better. The less gear you're on the better you look. Running more test than usual trt dose will make you look like shit due to water retention. I wonder why actual pro bodybuiders crash their test and estrogen before the competition, hmmmm.
You are a brain dead homosexual if you really think that running more testosterone will make you look better. The less gear you're on the better you look. Running more test than usual trt dose will make you look like shit due to water retention. I wonder why actual pro bodybuiders crash their test and estrogen before the competition, hmmmm.
I fucking hate clueles natty fucks like you.
I can tell he is using minor amounts of synthol in his pectoralis major, He is certainly on testosterone and his whole schtick is to sell people his Liverking brand, under the guise that if you just buy his preworkout you can acheive his boosted looks naturally. He's a grifter, like every fitness influencer with a brand.
I've never cheated nor taken a shortcut in any capacity of life... you earn the life and wife that you behold. Most people think it's impossible because they look like shit, despite doing movements that they call work (which isn't) and despite eating clean (which isn't)... my thesis is that if you commit to the 9 Ancestral Tenets, you will unlock the greatest version of yourself (your inner beast)... you will optimize your testosterone, your growth hormone, your IGF-1, your DHT, your metabolic markers and you will achieve a higher version of yourself that is to behold too. I believe in the ways of our ancestors.... we are descendants of the sole surviving species of genus Homo (the baddest mammalian predators that ever lived). I honor these ways by putting back in, what the modern world left out.
LiverKing out.
ive been on this shit site since 06
i remember the days of 'cant go 3 days without water' >gotta bulk MASSIVE carbs >then cut
pre IF/fasting/water fasting/dry fasting
WE DONT KNOW THE LIMITS
theres still things to discover
what are some signs hes not 'natty'?
honestly idc if he is or not. its not me. id love to be convinced. but thru my life experience, i think he could be natty.
I don't know if he is truly natty or not, but I base my opinion on the fact that this is a guy making a fortune with lying, shilling "ancestral tenets" while sitting in his private jet or using combat boots and rifles for his "ancestral hunt".
So I'm inclined to believe this is an individual who has no problem with obscuring the truth for his own personal gain. Using gear while claiming natty would line up perfectly with everything else known about him.
>what are some signs hes not 'natty'?
Look how full and muscular he is AND at the same time how defined and shredded he is. You can easily trace every single vein from his wrists up to his pecs lmao. He's an old fuck. HE IS OLD. His fizeek is impossible at 25 years old natty, let alone in his boomer state. Look, on the offchance that you are not trolling or plain retarded (sub 90 IQ) you just neef to look into enhanced physiques on your own time. Roid use is very obvious, lol.
I hate it when guys have a body built for bear mode and they give themselves abs. I'm trying to go for banemode myself. I don't want women to find me attractive. I want them to fear me.
He literally said he had ab implants. I fucking hate this board.
>he has ab implants
No he doesn't you morons, he was joking.
Ab implants don't change size when moving.
If you've ever seen legit ab implants, they look super fake and retarded. The are always the same size no matter how you flex your abdomen.
If you can't tell the difference between real abs and fake abs you should stop working out and have a nice day because you are too dumb to live.
>5'9, 190lbs Tom Hardy
I must have some serious body dismorphia because I'm the same height and 10lbs heavier but would swear I'm smaller than him. Was he all upper body?
>Take test and HGH >Make vids eating food 99% of NPC’s wouldn’t touch >Use that money and noteriety to sell supps and advice to said NPC’s >Profit
I respect his hustle and he does have some decent points like being outdoors more but he’s just your typical grifter
Its not that its impossible for him to not be on any anabolic compounds, its just really unlikely.
Forgetting the fact that he is in his fifties, very few complete natties in their early twenties look like this. Let's assume that UFC fighters, professional boxers and NFL running backs are all natty (simply because those sports have some testing protocols in place and, therefore, unlike bodybuilding and powerlifting, the athletes cannot run long cycles or cruises on low dose shit like test). These guys are the genetic elite and are paid professionals with evey incentive to maximize their geentic gifts with the best training, rest and recovery protocols possible.
Does liverking look more like one of those athletes or an untested bodybuilder/smaller weight class powerlfter?
He is on something or has been on something. That doesnt mean he doesnt train hard and eat well - I am sure he has to - but he is at LEAST running 250mg of test per week. And that aint natty.
>UFC fighters, professional boxers and NFL running backs
None of these train for hypertrophy you mongoloid. Don't know about naggeregg but fighters are actively discouraged from getting swole.
That said King Leddit is roided to the gills.
The thing I hate about fitness influencers is how they lie about steroid use. This is why Noel Deyzel is loved, and this guy is memed on. Noel is honest about his use of PEDs, which sets realistic expectations for his audience. Not only is Liver fuck a blatant liar, but takes it a step further by promoting his line of supplements as the reason you’re not like him. “You have to eat like me in order to look like me. It may not be realistic for you to be shoving 30 horse testicles down your throat every night, but convenient for you you can buy it as a supplementation on my website”.
Then again, 90% of the supplement industry is a lie. At least the guy knows how to play the market
I'm not even saying that kind of physique is impossible to obtain naturally, but if you did it naturally you wouldn't have all the telltale signs of cycling.
Is abdominal etching going to become more common now? I don't care what others do but I wish they'd stop focusing on visible abs if they don't have the discipline to get them.
He's either got etching or implants. Etching would make sense since his abs seem similar in shape to how they were when he was younger and they do change size somewhat, implants would also make sense since he said it himself that he paid $10000 for each ab, though it's not impossible he was trying to stir up controversy or joking. I don't know the price of implants so maybe them being 10 grand would explain why they're relatively accurate compared to other examples. I think it's etching, just because they seem to stretch sometimes.
Either way I'd hate to see this become a trend.
Is abdominal etching going to become more common now? I don't care what others do but I wish they'd stop focusing on visible abs if they don't have the discipline to get them.
Why are people so difficult to accept people use steroids? They think it’s like heroin or something and must be rare. But it’s actually just common as all fuck and when you’re lifting for over a year natty it should be obvious people lie about roid use.
I think it must be anger that they feel it’s all for nothing. But who cares. Lift natty and judge your own progress or roid if you want that physique. It’s not a big deal. The only problem is roiders lying to grift but other than that who cares.
It’s not actually caused by anabolic steroids it’s when bodybuilders take high doses of human growth hormone, their organs grow in side and stick out of their gut. Intestines liver stomach all get bigger
Palumboism occurs when the muscles on the sides of the abdomen, also known as your oblique muscles, thicken and make it difficult for a bodybuilder to hold in their stomach, or rectus abdominis muscles. Palumboism is also referred to as: steroid or roid gut
>Palumboism
This term was made up troll post on the getbig forums circa 2005. I know this because I was around back then on the forums to see the original post when it happened.
The original got deleted but someone saved it in this follow up thread from 2005
100% natty. It just takes 26 years. Just keep taking his supplements, which are clearly ancient, and in 26 years you will look like him and if you don't it is because you didn't prepare your liver correctly and it is all your fault.
He's natty. Even if he isn't he is because counter signaling a some what decent white male role model is dumb especially when he's getting people to live better and work out more.
If natty is being permanently on 500mg test per week then yes.
You sound jealous mate. Not a good look
thing is, my father was a tree climber for over 30 yrs. has a similar build. theres something about enough nature that can provide this build. was base it off basedboys working out inside a building.
I think its possible with intense workout outside.
my father never really 'dieted' but naturally he ate clean. prob 30% carbs, 60% proteins, 10% fats. he loved his oysters and seafood.
all we have to compare is people that workout inside a gym.
but he should test live or let someone against him pick a doctor so its random ect.
but i think hes natty
also ill add. consider... theres something about our human identity that adds the development of the body.
>example
based on who you are, u can get pissed anout anything. causing ur heart rate and blood pressure to rise. thats just the basics. imagine living everyday thinking ur a "primal". thats moving creating/ activating DNA. we already know DNA 'sleeps' and can be turnt off/on.
these peak 'natty' goody rich boys in the gym arent thinking with the identity of a 'primal'. so they dont get the liverking body.
anyways im open for opinions
literally schzio beliefs
He’s right you know. I literally will myself to be bigger/stronger. I don’t lose/gain weight through diet. I literally will my gains into existence. When I want to cut, I lose weight. When I want to bulk, I gain it, just by wanting it. A dyel like you couldn’t possibly know the advantages provided by a powerful mind.
>my father was a tree climber for over 30 yrs. has a similar build.
But no pics, right?
yeah for sure bro i’m going to post pics of my father so you can jack off to it. homosexual
Ok, now we know you are trolling. Boring day?
Do not speak to me unless your father is a distinguished tree climber himself
As a matter of fact he is. He re-invented the art of climbing trees as we know it, this lead to winning the Nobel prize in Horticulture Ascenscion in 1995.
Oh lord. I did not know your father is Edward "The Gecko" Libowitz. My apologies.
Didn't they write a book about that guy? A Canker for Libowitz or something like that?
your dad may have been strong and had decent muscle mass, but he sure as fuck wasn't that lean
You’re right about the benefits of nature bro but you’re remembering your father through the eyes of an admiring child. This guy is a fraud and not nearly as cool as your dad.
You're a dyel and so is everyone not immediately calling you as such. Liver king is obviously juiced to the gills to anyone who has been lifting for over a year. I'm sure it's his meme diet and Le caveman marketing gimmick that makes him that big and that lean at his age.
if by this you mean to say that your daddy sucked the sweet sweet ball juice of each and every gym monkey in the city directly from the veiny source I am inclined to believe you
You're an idiot and only remembering what your child brain processed. There's no fucking way your dad looked like this frauding roid tranny. If he was that big he certainly wasn't anywhere close to that lean and if he was that lean he wouldn't have been anything close to the size nature boner guzzler is
Yeah, personally I think your father and this guy is natty, like Mike O'Hearn.
I'm a tree climber and I'm strong as fuck, also flabby. Depends on the person. I can always bench 315 no matter how long I've been away from weights though.
>my father was a tree climber for over 30 yrs
Good for you. Most people with tree climbing father's never got to meet them.
i love it how the fake natty / admitting you are just on TRT has brainwashed people into actually believing it lol.
yeah just taking 500mg test will turn u into ifbb pro lol
500mg/week is not a trt dose lmfao. The highest i know someone got prescribed was 200
It really is the new fake natty. Even that homosexual Chris Bumstead claims he bulks on 500mg only. Shit's getting ridiculous.
a fake natty won't look like an IFBB pro
You are a brain dead homosexual if you really think that running more testosterone will make you look better. The less gear you're on the better you look. Running more test than usual trt dose will make you look like shit due to water retention. I wonder why actual pro bodybuiders crash their test and estrogen before the competition, hmmmm.
I fucking hate clueles natty fucks like you.
nagger nobody is talking about if he’s aesthetic. the question was is he natty, obviously fucking not. why are you sperging out over nothing
I can tell he is using minor amounts of synthol in his pectoralis major, He is certainly on testosterone and his whole schtick is to sell people his Liverking brand, under the guise that if you just buy his preworkout you can acheive his boosted looks naturally. He's a grifter, like every fitness influencer with a brand.
I've never cheated nor taken a shortcut in any capacity of life... you earn the life and wife that you behold. Most people think it's impossible because they look like shit, despite doing movements that they call work (which isn't) and despite eating clean (which isn't)... my thesis is that if you commit to the 9 Ancestral Tenets, you will unlock the greatest version of yourself (your inner beast)... you will optimize your testosterone, your growth hormone, your IGF-1, your DHT, your metabolic markers and you will achieve a higher version of yourself that is to behold too. I believe in the ways of our ancestors.... we are descendants of the sole surviving species of genus Homo (the baddest mammalian predators that ever lived). I honor these ways by putting back in, what the modern world left out.
LiverKing out.
Show physique or STFU.
So is it 1.5 or 2 mill per month from all those supps you're shuffling?
I'd claim natty to if I was raking in that kind of dough.
i dont know about your inner beast but you definitely have unlocked your inner cringe
Lol no.
ive been on this shit site since 06
i remember the days of 'cant go 3 days without water'
>gotta bulk MASSIVE carbs
>then cut
pre IF/fasting/water fasting/dry fasting
WE DONT KNOW THE LIMITS
theres still things to discover
what are some signs hes not 'natty'?
honestly idc if he is or not. its not me. id love to be convinced. but thru my life experience, i think he could be natty.
I don't know if he is truly natty or not, but I base my opinion on the fact that this is a guy making a fortune with lying, shilling "ancestral tenets" while sitting in his private jet or using combat boots and rifles for his "ancestral hunt".
So I'm inclined to believe this is an individual who has no problem with obscuring the truth for his own personal gain. Using gear while claiming natty would line up perfectly with everything else known about him.
>what are some signs hes not 'natty'?
Look how full and muscular he is AND at the same time how defined and shredded he is. You can easily trace every single vein from his wrists up to his pecs lmao. He's an old fuck. HE IS OLD. His fizeek is impossible at 25 years old natty, let alone in his boomer state. Look, on the offchance that you are not trolling or plain retarded (sub 90 IQ) you just neef to look into enhanced physiques on your own time. Roid use is very obvious, lol.
It looked pretty believable until his roid gut entered the frame tbh
I hate it when guys have a body built for bear mode and they give themselves abs. I'm trying to go for banemode myself. I don't want women to find me attractive. I want them to fear me.
>give themselves abs.
>give
I think you mean work hard and diet
But no this little man is defiantly not natural
He has ab implants.
>ab implants
Do you think this is the result of ab etching/Ab sculpting surgery ?
he's just on roids, no implants involved. he really is that shredded, u cant implant fucking ab veins.
https://youtube.com/shorts/UnJ2htNr2rc?feature=share
liverkingbros not like this…
Right after that clip cuts out (in the full video) he says he was joking.
>he has ab implants
No he doesn't you morons, he was joking.
Ab implants don't change size when moving.
If you've ever seen legit ab implants, they look super fake and retarded. The are always the same size no matter how you flex your abdomen.
If you can't tell the difference between real abs and fake abs you should stop working out and have a nice day because you are too dumb to live.
>I don't want women to find me attractive.
Mission fucking accomplished, anon.
>I want them to fear me.
Yeah, 5'9, 190lbs Tom Hardy was SO scary lmao.
>5'9, 190lbs Tom Hardy
I must have some serious body dismorphia because I'm the same height and 10lbs heavier but would swear I'm smaller than him. Was he all upper body?
Everyone looks bigger on screen.
thats just called being fat bro
Well. Liverkibg is like 5’5
pic rel is not remotely aesthetic. That's just an amerifat.
Imo, having a gut and still seeing ab definition through them is peak beast mode.
I think you're retarded
Delusional
Love the guy watch his vids everyday but he is not natty
watch this funny video
>of course he believes in evolution
it's hard to become the bigger idiot, in comparison to liver king but sv3rige knock it out of the park
100% Natty
on steroids and has fake abs
Its not steroids its 'TRT' ayyyyyyyyyy
HGHgut is too obvious
oh cool its this thread again
the laziest bait imaginable and mentally impaired retards that try to argue with trolls
t. doesnt stack earth
>natty or not?
The real question is when he's going to have a heart attack?
I'm guessing when he's 51
why is he always out of breath?
Tren really fucks with your lungs.
>Take test and HGH
>Make vids eating food 99% of NPC’s wouldn’t touch
>Use that money and noteriety to sell supps and advice to said NPC’s
>Profit
I respect his hustle and he does have some decent points like being outdoors more but he’s just your typical grifter
>respecting grifters
Weak
Its not that its impossible for him to not be on any anabolic compounds, its just really unlikely.
Forgetting the fact that he is in his fifties, very few complete natties in their early twenties look like this. Let's assume that UFC fighters, professional boxers and NFL running backs are all natty (simply because those sports have some testing protocols in place and, therefore, unlike bodybuilding and powerlifting, the athletes cannot run long cycles or cruises on low dose shit like test). These guys are the genetic elite and are paid professionals with evey incentive to maximize their geentic gifts with the best training, rest and recovery protocols possible.
Does liverking look more like one of those athletes or an untested bodybuilder/smaller weight class powerlfter?
He is on something or has been on something. That doesnt mean he doesnt train hard and eat well - I am sure he has to - but he is at LEAST running 250mg of test per week. And that aint natty.
>UFC fighters, professional boxers and NFL running backs
None of these train for hypertrophy you mongoloid. Don't know about naggeregg but fighters are actively discouraged from getting swole.
That said King Leddit is roided to the gills.
He clearly isn't and you are all retarded
Is roid gut man natty? no. I would kill this grifter with my bare hands.
100% natty
if you can't achieve this in a year you're NGMI
this. But honestly you should be able to look like him in only just 4 months if you are serious
>I think he's natty Bros
>opinions
My opinion is that you're a homosexual who doesn't even have the brain cells to make convincing bait
The thing I hate about fitness influencers is how they lie about steroid use. This is why Noel Deyzel is loved, and this guy is memed on. Noel is honest about his use of PEDs, which sets realistic expectations for his audience. Not only is Liver fuck a blatant liar, but takes it a step further by promoting his line of supplements as the reason you’re not like him. “You have to eat like me in order to look like me. It may not be realistic for you to be shoving 30 horse testicles down your throat every night, but convenient for you you can buy it as a supplementation on my website”.
Then again, 90% of the supplement industry is a lie. At least the guy knows how to play the market
LIVEKING
nattyKING
He's obviously not natty.
I'm not even saying that kind of physique is impossible to obtain naturally, but if you did it naturally you wouldn't have all the telltale signs of cycling.
He literally said he had ab implants. I fucking hate this board.
lmao seriously? what a homosexual
He's either got etching or implants. Etching would make sense since his abs seem similar in shape to how they were when he was younger and they do change size somewhat, implants would also make sense since he said it himself that he paid $10000 for each ab, though it's not impossible he was trying to stir up controversy or joking. I don't know the price of implants so maybe them being 10 grand would explain why they're relatively accurate compared to other examples. I think it's etching, just because they seem to stretch sometimes.
Either way I'd hate to see this become a trend.
Is abdominal etching going to become more common now? I don't care what others do but I wish they'd stop focusing on visible abs if they don't have the discipline to get them.
Why are people so difficult to accept people use steroids? They think it’s like heroin or something and must be rare. But it’s actually just common as all fuck and when you’re lifting for over a year natty it should be obvious people lie about roid use.
I think it must be anger that they feel it’s all for nothing. But who cares. Lift natty and judge your own progress or roid if you want that physique. It’s not a big deal. The only problem is roiders lying to grift but other than that who cares.
He has roid gut ffs
Tf is roid gut
It’s not actually caused by anabolic steroids it’s when bodybuilders take high doses of human growth hormone, their organs grow in side and stick out of their gut. Intestines liver stomach all get bigger
That was what I was implying to the smoothbrain
Palumboism occurs when the muscles on the sides of the abdomen, also known as your oblique muscles, thicken and make it difficult for a bodybuilder to hold in their stomach, or rectus abdominis muscles. Palumboism is also referred to as: steroid or roid gut
....lazy cunt
>Palumboism
This term was made up troll post on the getbig forums circa 2005. I know this because I was around back then on the forums to see the original post when it happened.
The original got deleted but someone saved it in this follow up thread from 2005
https://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=26737.0
That's not what it is, retard.
So... Doing deadlifts
Let me know you don't lift without saying you don't lift
You have to be using a serious amount of drugs to get as big as this dude, there’s just no way this man isn’t a human pin cushion
100% natty. It just takes 26 years. Just keep taking his supplements, which are clearly ancient, and in 26 years you will look like him and if you don't it is because you didn't prepare your liver correctly and it is all your fault.
He's natty. Even if he isn't he is because counter signaling a some what decent white male role model is dumb especially when he's getting people to live better and work out more.
>Liver King
His alias is a projection imo