Training abs feel painful in a different, sharper more intense way than training any other muscle does. What the fuck is up with that and does it go away once your abs get more developed
>does it go away once your abs get more developed
i guess yes. i dont feel my abs even thou i use advanced exercises(dragon flag, standing roll out ab wheel and toes to bar)
100% a mobility/flexibility issue. Could be either genetic, i.e you have really short abdominal ligaments that strain at the bottom of ROM or environmental, i.e you just haven't stretched those fuckers enough to handle any sort of load without tearing - hurting.
What you need to do is to highly isolated movements, both horizontal and lateral. Crunches/Leg Raises/Russian Twists at no waist, and get at current max depth of ROM and just stay there and sort of like massage your ligaments into stretching more and more by bouncing softly into the motion until it feels comfortable there. Then you keep going incrementally further, now adding weight at previous ROM depth, stretching to the next.
It's a high rep game anyway and the tighter you remain in ROM, the more snatched your belt line is going to look. Going for that taper.
>Would you lift if the results of lifting where invisible?
I definitely would. Although I do enjoy the gains aspect to it as well. Often I find myself staring at my abs in the mirror for extended periods of time so maybe I’m just lifting for narcissism at this point
Only train it with static holds. Serious warning unless you want to pay for hernia surgery. Leg raises might be fine but nothing on the floor or bench unless you're like sub 160lb so you weigh like a feather.
Why do people do planks for abs but never do any static hold type exercises for other bodyparts?
For example, I've never seen anyone do a bicep curl and then hold the bar in the most difficult position for a minute or anything like that.
Anyone know the reason?
There seems to be an idea that the purpose of abs is to hold the abdomen straight against resistance rather than to actively bend it, which is supposedly harmful in some way when using a lot of strength. Not sure where this originates but it's popular broscience recently among youtube types.
I suppose it's pretty obvious other muscles are designed to move a joint against resistance so it's rare to consider normal weightlighting with a full ROM harmful for other muscles, but I think it has to do with bending the spine under a lot of stress. Holding-position exercises like planks do exist for most muscles, they're called isometrics.
I don't mind hitting the abs themselves. My problem is that every other abs exercise has my lower back working with sharp movement. The only abs exercise I can do comfortably are planks and hanging leg raises.
idk i like training abs. I'm the only one who is doing dragon flag. mogging all these powershitters and dyels in my gym
Training abs feel painful in a different, sharper more intense way than training any other muscle does. What the fuck is up with that and does it go away once your abs get more developed
>does it go away once your abs get more developed
i guess yes. i dont feel my abs even thou i use advanced exercises(dragon flag, standing roll out ab wheel and toes to bar)
>Toes to bar
Someone spent like a literal hour doing these on the stretching wrack at my gym the other day. Was it you?
yes that was me. next time come say hello i always wanted a SwoleShack bro
100% a mobility/flexibility issue. Could be either genetic, i.e you have really short abdominal ligaments that strain at the bottom of ROM or environmental, i.e you just haven't stretched those fuckers enough to handle any sort of load without tearing - hurting.
What you need to do is to highly isolated movements, both horizontal and lateral. Crunches/Leg Raises/Russian Twists at no waist, and get at current max depth of ROM and just stay there and sort of like massage your ligaments into stretching more and more by bouncing softly into the motion until it feels comfortable there. Then you keep going incrementally further, now adding weight at previous ROM depth, stretching to the next.
It's a high rep game anyway and the tighter you remain in ROM, the more snatched your belt line is going to look. Going for that taper.
Not that anon but this is highly useful to me. Thanks
feels absolutely awesome to train. equally good as arms.
you're just a pussy.
>Feels worse to train than legs
What ab exercises do you do?
sit ups, leg raises and planks
You just need a stronger core. I do pic rel and don't have a problem with them. Other than the leg raises hurting my neck for some reason.
Can you post abs? That's way more sets than I do.
>planks
You are woman.
look at how ugly this physique is due to shitty ab genetics
Still shredded doesn't really matter you guys get kinda gay with this shit.
cope harder for your shit genetics bud. you must think Derek is aesthetic too huh
What? Damn you sound gay and bitter
you bittering all over my dick right now homosexual lmao!
You look at men all day and obsess about "aesthetics" (a word you never used previously until homosexual YouTubers who you idolize used)
that’s a lot of words just to express you look like shit lmao!
>be contrarian
>SwoleShack agrees with my core sucks
Looks like I’m doing core tonight to prove you homosexuals wrong.
Pecs shoulders and biceps are way more important aesthetically
I would argue that you have to train legs to train abs right. rectus most neglected quadricep head
just do hip flexor exercises like knee kick ups with ur foot in a kettlebell, reverse squats on the cable machine and L sits
>Don't train abs
>Always hanging in the 14-17% BF range
>Look big in clothes & hoes love me
Have fun slaving away for abs to impress fat chicks & gay men
>lifting only to impress others
insecure homosexual
Would you lift if the results of lifting where invisible? You look the same as any DYEL, just much stronger. I sure as fuck wouldn't.
I'd still include some lifting & other exercise but would have no incentive to move heavy ass weight.
>Would you lift if the results of lifting where invisible?
I definitely would. Although I do enjoy the gains aspect to it as well. Often I find myself staring at my abs in the mirror for extended periods of time so maybe I’m just lifting for narcissism at this point
>Would you lift if the results of lifting where invisible?
its fun and healthy
everything you listed could be true + spending 5 mins training abs per session and look even better. this is a retarded post.
Only train it with static holds. Serious warning unless you want to pay for hernia surgery. Leg raises might be fine but nothing on the floor or bench unless you're like sub 160lb so you weigh like a feather.
What are some abs exercises then ?
I do cable crunches a lot and they dont hurt at all
youre irritating the gut when you do abs, producing serotonin.
Why do people do planks for abs but never do any static hold type exercises for other bodyparts?
For example, I've never seen anyone do a bicep curl and then hold the bar in the most difficult position for a minute or anything like that.
Anyone know the reason?
There is such an exercise
Never heard of anyone doing it though.
There seems to be an idea that the purpose of abs is to hold the abdomen straight against resistance rather than to actively bend it, which is supposedly harmful in some way when using a lot of strength. Not sure where this originates but it's popular broscience recently among youtube types.
I suppose it's pretty obvious other muscles are designed to move a joint against resistance so it's rare to consider normal weightlighting with a full ROM harmful for other muscles, but I think it has to do with bending the spine under a lot of stress. Holding-position exercises like planks do exist for most muscles, they're called isometrics.
do that static hold mid ROM with your arms at a 90 degree angle for 10 sec on your last rep of bicep curls, gains will be had
Your lifting babyweight if it feels worse to train than legs. Delts and lats are more aesthetic as well
I don't mind hitting the abs themselves. My problem is that every other abs exercise has my lower back working with sharp movement. The only abs exercise I can do comfortably are planks and hanging leg raises.