anyone else wanna share their worthless opinions, specifically on these? i cant seem to find a row variation that i like
i have done these but only once or twice, should i switch from cable rows to this?
Chest supported rows (plate loaded not pin loaded) probably blew my back up the most.
I was doing pendlay rows and bent over rows but found my lower back would fatigue fast when going heavy. Chest supported rows allowed me to go heavy and really hone in on the upper/mid back without blasting my lower back.
>can't progressive overload by adding weight >unclear how much you are actually lifting due to different masses of the body being different distances from the exercise's fulcrum >no lateral motion of grip in head-toe axis or right-left axis, which you get with cable grip and which allows for more natural arcing motion / contraction of the shoulders and back, as well working stabilizing muscles
Am i the only one that thinks that these are overrated as fuck? I never feel them in the back, been doing them for a long time, they don't seem to do a lot. Probably one of the worst back movements for me.
rings feel better because they can move.
You can add weight to these with a belt but need to be elevated. Got to +60kg for reps
That is impressive. How do you train them? What rep ranges? How many sets? How many time per week? What do you do when you start losing ROM on them? What i don't like about them is that i lose ROM when i get tired and i am unsure when to call it quit. Do i stop when i lose a bit of ROM? Or do i keep going until i can barely do anything? If i stop when i start losing ROM then i feel like i am not really getting in enough work, maybe i should keep going until the ROM is considerably hampered to less then half? Is your back big? Did these play a big part in building your back? What is your pull ups like? Post back pls
did a basic 3 x 8-12 until 40kg then started doing first set 3 reps 90%rm followed by 2 sets of 5-6 with 20% less weight very controlled. Two times a week, had this as my main back movement. You can also do wider grip with less weight for more upper back, and closer for lats. Losing rom is totally fine, just make sure you start with full rom and get a couple good reps. If you use a belt it works like a chest supported row, you can do some overloads to get a nice stretch at the bottom. Put the belt closer to your chest. My back is pretty good. This is the exercise i've had the most fun with. Hard to setup but worth it.
No it doesn't
>shit rom
>limited grip possibilities
Dyel
>has never done an inverted row in her life
I have done plenty of them but as a pure back exercise they suck compared to cable rows
>mogs your shitty whatever the fuck that is
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Jeff Cavalier got 3 hernias from this iirc
because he's bitch made. never had any issues doing this
>Jeff Cavalie doesn't like it
now I know it's a great exercise
>creates an inguinal hernia out of nowhere and kills your gains until you recover from surgery
Not today, satan
You ain't mogging anyone if you still do this exercise
Sure I do, because when you're rowing 180 lbs. for sets of 12, it's enough to mog most lanklets like yourself.
Get with the times, scrawny homosexual.
Either do these and/or a barbell row variant
Closed kinetic chain >>> Open kinetic chain
If you disagree then you're a fat homosexual, go back to plg
Horrible form. Pull it to the lower chest instead and have a weight vest ready. Than it mogs the seated cable row
bw rows are terrible
worst strenght curve ever
bottom part feels like you doing literal air while on the top part you are already fatigued
>Is visibly unable to do 1 (one) pullup
seated row machines are the best tbh
anyone else wanna share their worthless opinions, specifically on these? i cant seem to find a row variation that i like
i have done these but only once or twice, should i switch from cable rows to this?
Chest supported rows (plate loaded not pin loaded) probably blew my back up the most.
I was doing pendlay rows and bent over rows but found my lower back would fatigue fast when going heavy. Chest supported rows allowed me to go heavy and really hone in on the upper/mid back without blasting my lower back.
This. Put a flat bench on some boxes and do a barbell row while lying on your stomach. Best back workout
>can't progressive overload by adding weight
>unclear how much you are actually lifting due to different masses of the body being different distances from the exercise's fulcrum
>no lateral motion of grip in head-toe axis or right-left axis, which you get with cable grip and which allows for more natural arcing motion / contraction of the shoulders and back, as well working stabilizing muscles
>>can't progressive overload by adding weight
Just tape weights on your back
Literally just do pull ups bro
>mogs your barbell inverted row
rings feel better because they can move.
You can add weight to these with a belt but need to be elevated. Got to +60kg for reps
Am i the only one that thinks that these are overrated as fuck? I never feel them in the back, been doing them for a long time, they don't seem to do a lot. Probably one of the worst back movements for me.
That is impressive. How do you train them? What rep ranges? How many sets? How many time per week? What do you do when you start losing ROM on them? What i don't like about them is that i lose ROM when i get tired and i am unsure when to call it quit. Do i stop when i lose a bit of ROM? Or do i keep going until i can barely do anything? If i stop when i start losing ROM then i feel like i am not really getting in enough work, maybe i should keep going until the ROM is considerably hampered to less then half? Is your back big? Did these play a big part in building your back? What is your pull ups like? Post back pls
did a basic 3 x 8-12 until 40kg then started doing first set 3 reps 90%rm followed by 2 sets of 5-6 with 20% less weight very controlled. Two times a week, had this as my main back movement. You can also do wider grip with less weight for more upper back, and closer for lats. Losing rom is totally fine, just make sure you start with full rom and get a couple good reps. If you use a belt it works like a chest supported row, you can do some overloads to get a nice stretch at the bottom. Put the belt closer to your chest. My back is pretty good. This is the exercise i've had the most fun with. Hard to setup but worth it.
No it doesn't
Just do bent over barbell rows to your mid abdomen
and weighted pullups
progressively overload
simple as that
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Great but how do you increase weight?