>lives on bread
>lives on pasta
>lives on oil
>skinny
>live for a long time
how do italians do it?
>lives on bread. >lives on pasta. >lives on oil. >skinny. >live for a long time
>lives on bread
>lives on pasta
>lives on oil
>skinny
>live for a long time
how do italians do it?
because carbs and fats are good for you
they don't
Cope ketotard
They walk to the store, they walk to work, they walk to the pub, they walk to the cafe, they walk to the restaurant.
If someone made me admin for a day I would make these stupid ass threads a bannable offense. How many times do you stupid fat Americans need to be told it's not what you eat it's how much of it you eat. Do more fork put downs you fat fuck.
You dont need a fork to eat chips (crisps in your retardese) you ugly fucking ricebean horizontally striped shirt wearing monkeynagger
>it's not what you eat it's how much of it you eat
Incorrect, carbs are bad and make you fat
the only people I seen talking shit about CICO are fat people, so that opinion is discarded.
Skinny people shittalk CICO when they are a formerly fat person.
People who have been skinny their whole lives don't know CICO is wrong because they haven't experienced obesity.
I've never experienced obesity because I follow CICO.
never experienced gains either
cope.
you sure are
you're mad because CICO works and exposes you as undisciplined. The very notion of moderation is abhorrent to your food addicted mind. I'm mad because you reject the truth that has worked for literally billions of people, because it hurts your feelings.
do better, brother. Learn some discipline.
he says he eats mostly the same thing every day, then says he doesn't count calories
Really? Please bulk on 100g of bread a day. Yep, just 100g from the bakery, that's all.
cico
They eat a lot of meat
Portion control and active lifestyle
>active lifestyle
correct answer
eee you know, little bit'a this, little bit'a that
They also don't eat that much pasta. They eat meats, lot's of fish, and veggies. The pasta thing is American Eye-talians.
Also we eat waaaaaaaay more oil than them. Dipping a piece of bread in olive oil isn't the same as eating processed food where half the calories are from hydrogenated oils to keep it shelf stable and tasty.
>They also don't eat that much pasta. They eat meats, lot's of fish, and veggies. The pasta thing is American Eye-talians.
Ketolard cope. lmao have you ever been to Italy?
>Don't over-eat
they walk everywhere and smoke cigarettes
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retrogradation_(starch)
Starch retrogradation has a minor impact and is basically negligible.
>t. has never eaten garlic bread in his life
sad
We don't have anything similar here, that's italian-american.
I'm genuinely curious about it btw, is it good?
Because they're active, they don't eat mountains of it a day, and what they do eat isn't cheap store bought confectionery pretending to be quality food.
they also at fish, cheese, vegetables, pork and fruits. the long living rural Sardinians have a diet high in fish and goat cheese.
My ex was Italian so I have first hand experience, even visited her family a couple of times
>they don't always eat pasta or pizza, they also have meat, fish, etc. regularly
>some of them are just as fat, her older brother was fat and ate Mcdonalds 5 times a week
>they drink a shitload of coffee (caffeine = appetite suppressant)
>they simply eat smaller portions of everything
they might walk a little more but my ex drove or took the train everywhere she hated walking
>they simply eat smaller portions of everything
That's the main thing.
And btw we have plenty of fats nowadays, because we're losing the culture of eating at home.
Eating out you tend to eat more calories
small portion and daily exercice
that's it
Pastanigg3r here
Some things:
- The things you eat in Usa aren't the usual things we eat here
- Things you eat as a tourist here are the ''average'' we eat here, usually are the ''weekend family'' dishes
-Involuntary CICO
-We walk a lot
- Lack of HFCS and sugar everywhere like in may american and british processed foods
Half of italians are either overweight or obese
As i wrote before, the situation is no way at the same levels of USA or UK.
We're ON THE WAY, btw.
I would say we're like USA were in the early 90s.
UE, for some unknown reason, is pushing hard for the massive introduction of refined /processed things and HFCS (this was literally banned by laws up to 2018).
Zoomers don't eat ''traditional'' but mostly goyslop, plus we're an aging population and mostly boomers are fat. For some reasons, elders and millenials aren't but boomers are fat
I'm literally eating this as a dinner now
pic related
Later i'll probabily eat something more before bed after the shift
>skinny
35% overweight
12% obese
This is what ancient romans ate
>bread
>figs
>legumes
>olives
>chicked breast rests
All these things were recovered from Pompeii plebian homes
But
>MUH LE MED DIET IT'S ALL CARB CARB CARB
Forgot pic
Patrician domus ate way better than them
>21st century italians have the same diet as ancient romans
sometimes Im still surprised how retarded some of the people on this website are
Who wrote that?
Who the fuck says the Mediterranean diet is carbs? I always heard its lean meats, fruits, veggies, cheese, yogurt, and olive oil
>Who the fuck says the Mediterranean diet is carbs?
These guys and their ''food pyramid''
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Department_of_Agriculture
>Who the fuck says the Mediterranean diet is carbs?
Everyone who's ever been to med countries.
Some day you will have to accept that science is frequently wrong, and reality > studies.
> Copious amounts of pizza.
> ITS JUST CARBS BRO.
> WE ONLY EAT CARBS.
Vegan schizo on suicide watch.
Try again in English pls. You're schizo-rambling again.
Try again in human, schizo bitch.
3 of those things are carbs though. The problem is that a mutt will see an italian eat 100grams of pasta, then eat a 400grams bag of chips and a whole tub of icecream and wonder why the "carbs" make americans fat and not the italians.
Aren't legumes 50/50 prot/carb?
No better than 2:1 carbs:protein,.
>uhm, acktually more like 2.5:1
And plant protein is estimated using crude nitrogen values so the real value will be much lower.
carbs: whole grains, rice, oats, legumes, fruits, potatoes...
carbs according to Americans: soda, goyslop, cakes, cookies...
>disgusting frog eating subhumans
it's in their dna to plague this earth
That's France idiot
>ameritard education
Can't even get the memes right, kek
Italians eat reasonable quantities of actual food -> normal weight
Mutts eat unreasonable quantities of slop -> they are morbidly obese
turns out basic food groups that we've been eating for tens of thousands of years aren't the problem and it's actually just about being active and not gorging yourself
eating significant amounts of grains is recent for humans. post agricultural humans were shorter, worse bones, worse teeth, and less healthy than hunter gatherers eating meat, fruit, and some tubers
Imagine believing that.
You know we have contemporary hunter gatherers we can observe, right? All low test low IQ manlets. That's what you get when you don't have access to a steady source of calories - there's a reason everyone switched to agriculture asap.
We play a lot of sports.
anything that is good for physical performance is bad for lifespan.
the trick is to not eat 5000 fucking calories of this stuff a day, anon.
>americans
homemade food is 100% nutrition 0 calories
They live in walkable cities and control their portion sizes.
people adapt to the food they eat over generations, theres no one objectively best diet
Active lifestyle from all the gay sex they're having
Healthcare system.
They care very little and work even less. A stress free life is the key to success
have you seen Italians lately?
see this
Boomers here are fat as fuck.
For some reason, they're the fattest generation.
Elders are slim
Most millenials are ok
Zoomies are ok
But boomers are a mess. I guess it's the same in UK and USA
In the us it’s because they’re rich and tend to surprisingly have very active social lives, which revolve around eating the worst food possible and drinking alcohol
They spend a lot of time walking. I'm totally fucking serious. Even old chubby Italian people are WALKING around all the time, socializing, and doing things like that. They talk, have sex, drink wine, enjoy the sunshine.
It's the same with Greeks.
If you take any of them and transplant them to car-centric shithole suburbia in the US or Canada, their health expectancy goes down.
Also their foods are more natural in Italy. I did a semester there. People made their own wine on their villas. Ingredients were all local, too. Local grain, veggies, fruits, meat.
Compare that to all the trash factory-processed shit most westerners eat (i.e. if you don't live in farmland and can buy local).
>Also their foods are more natural in Italy
Not for a long.
EU is pushing hard for the ''internationalization'' (read: introduction of mass processing) of our food production
Yup. /misc/, but as a sicilian by blood it's sad to see (my grandparents immigrated here to america). Only been back to sicily and the rest of italy a few times over the years, but seeing the decline there (along with the rest of yurop) has been rough.
I live in a rural place in the US though so everything here is actually "farm fresh". and I'm obviously physically active. whenever I'm in a city though for either school, travel, fun, work, or vacation, it's crazy seeing all the slop even at higher end specialty grocery stores. and people who are stressed out and strung out on medications and take transit everywhere instead of walking or biking and are constantly breathing in pollution.
yea my body is probably polluted from insecticide and stuff too from the farms and some factories, but whatever.
Not sicilian but northerner here, been down to ''your'' island thrice (literally another country compared to my native region, i like it btw, a lot)
As i wrote, we're in a ''fat/processed food epidemic'' as you were in the '80s.
EU confederal laws are, on paper, stronger than national laws so we're kinda forced to implement them. So the ban of HFCS was left in 2019, same for transgenic tomatoes, etc. Canola oil is still very rare here, buti've seen it at least twice in some ethnic indian/bangladeshi and hispanic bodegas
And since most of the zoomers eat american goyslop and desperately want to act african americans, listen trap music have the broccoli hairs and are into ''muh gang culture n sheet'', we're destined to be a carbon copy of USA also in the obesity matter
Nice! Yea, I say I am sicilian because it's a bit different, but I like the unity of the nation (as do most sicilians I think). we are all brothers, even us more violent and criminal ones from the south haha. I don't know italian politics too well but it's funny, because on the one hand you have criminal sicilians who emigrated to the US to continue syndicate activity here, but yet are still in close-knit cultural groups. sicilian immigrants usually dont like Mussolini (I do though), because he was bad for business, but yet those same sicilians now look and go "ah it's so sad what is happening to italy now" lol
Because looking back, we can see the cultural degradation in sicily as well as italy as a whole now. and it's the syndicates that are also responsible for importing africans and refugees into the rest of italy, too, to work as soldati. the irony is rich. I'm straight edge, studied hard, got into a good STEM program, working my way up in the engineering world, but I wish the terra patria would get its shit together and people would work hard for a brighter, independent Italian future.
As for the rest of your post, ugh... so sad..
*street underlings doing the dirty work, not soldati lol
Yoy should go and live in Italy and see what they actually look like and eat I think you'd be surprised.
Which parts you visited? Genuinely curious. I live in an alpine town
Naples, Rome, Venice and Florence.
I was sober maybe 4 hours in 2 weeks though.
Ahah i see. These are tourist filled hellholes btw i personally don’t like them. Did you enjoyed them ? Florence and Rome are filled with annoying immigrants and Naples is nice but natives can be both the best people you can ever meet or the worst of the worst. Florence always gave me the sensation of a decadent Disneyland city
Keep in mind that What you eat at restaurants and cafes aren’t our daily meals btw
Plus i’m in the deep Alpes so the situation is a bit different here
I stay mostly with families since I was visiting my ex wife's relatives. I don't think I had a meal that didn't have fish or a salad of some sort. Got stockhokmed into liking it. Didn't have breakfast once.
Cool! You lived the last glimpses of our dying culture
I “mirror” experienced the same in the 90s with a middle class american family in rural Midwest
Good old Times …
Sorry about your sperm count and lack of gains.
They don't. Their diet is much more animal-based than the American/Anglo diet. Same with the French. It's some sort of weird revisionism to say that they live on bread and pasta. That's actually what western tourists eat when they go to Italy because they are scared by weird cheeses and fish.
There has been an attempt to revise what people eat in "blue zones" by vegans, not just in Italy but other parts of the world. They pretend Okinawans are vegetarians for example when they eat an enormous amount of pork and fish.
I've noticed vegans doing that with blue zones, though they just ignore Hong Kong because it has the highest meat consumption in the world.
Italians eat a lot of meat, fish and dairy.
>dairy.
True.
I love pic related
Low BCAA intake, probably
https://exfatloss.substack.com/
>italians
>skinny
maybe real Italians from italy, but lmao italian Americans live on that shit too and are all disgusting
italianon here, believe me the average italian is not skinny at all
in places like Naples pretty much everyone is a fatass, too much tasty fried pizzas that are dirt cheap
La Campania è la regione più grassa d’Italia se non ricordo male dalle statistiche
They don't overindulge unlike fat fuck amerimutts.
You dumb naggers will invent every retarded ineffective weight loss diet in the world as an excuse to not follow the only one that works, eating less.
I'm literally having pic related right now, as usual
*as usual snack
Are these guys popular abroad?
Squeeze those olives madonna.
>lives on real food instead of processed slop
They also have not had an empire in 2000 years and they are known for retreating.