let's settle this: is he natty or not? on the one hand, his overall width and definition is better than most natties. on the other, he's short, has trained for many years, has BB parents, and pays attention to research.
let's settle this: is he natty or not?
I call natty
lmao no dude he is not natty. How fucking stupid are people?
>giant round muscles obviously bulging with glycogen and water
>8%bf
choose one of the above. Anyone who has actually bulked and cut know that you can't have both, and THAT is one thing roids are great for
>8%bf
Lol no. His peak stats are like 180 10% which is still within the meme FFMI metric for natty stats
>giant round muscles
dude is like 5'4"
he has round muscles but they are not giant at all they are short as fuck so they bulge out to the sides
Being short still wouldn't allow hin to get THAT big natty. Hes juiced in the past for sure.
No, you cant get delts like that natty. Also my body dismorphia brain is impressed and nattys dont even register.
>you cant get delts like that natty
lmao
do none of you understand how you can flair your lats and press your arms into your torso to pop your shoulders out and make them look 3D? it's an ultra basic posing tactic and can make even tiny DYELs look like they have ridiculous delts.
this pic isn't even an amazing comparison, but you can clearly see how it appears to have more delt separation in the posed pic.
obviously not natural
Natty manlet with top genetics, insertions, religious and meticulous training and diet (his entire life and livelihood revolves around it) and favorable photography
End of story
I feel like Jeffy would be honest if he handed in his natty card, but I don't ever see him doing it
Maybe trt once he hits 40
you literally just cant
he looks more roided than actual roiders
it's not up for a debate. if nippard is natty then literally everyone is natty. zyzz was natty, jeff seid is natty, kinobody is natty, christian guzman is natty, literally everyone should be deemed as natural until proven otherwise
Seid is obviosly way too shredded and full to be natty.
with Nippard, it's always like 50/50. his delts are very wide, but his definition is never that crazy. his abs aren't anything special, arms are alright but the definition just isn't there. it's like he has width of a roider but the rest looks like natty
Zyzz was pretty small for a roider, he weighed like 205 at 6'1. He just had good insertions on his upper body. Anyway you're delusional if you think you can't get big delts natty
so post natty shoulders, your picture is not that
>John Grimek isn't natty
Retard, he's a silver era bodybuilder from before steroids were widely available and being used in the sport
Lol
Literal retards. Never gonna make it
you can belive anything you like but that dude is not natty
Cope and seethe dyel. Grimek was huge and representing the US in the Olympics while testosterone was still being experimented on.
not that guy but Grimek was natty then(1945), anabolic steroids were synthesized in 1935 in germany but it was just Androstenone which was 15 milligrams from tens of thousands of litres of urine, so i'm not sure how a middle class bodybuilder will be able to afford something as expensive as that. Don't forget that people in the US had to translate in english without google and there was a war and aggression between the US and Germany from 1937 to 1945, yeah Grimek and late 40s-early 50s bodybuilders where natty.
>zyzz was natty
Admitted to being a fake natty and there are pics of him roiding
>jeff seid is natty
Looks way bigger and leaner than nippard
>kinobody is natty
Yeah, he is
>christian guzman is natty
before sure but now he looks like picrel so no
You completely misunderstood the post
>he looks more roided than actual roiders
Yeah, that's how much genetics come into play. You give too much credit to the power of drugs, no drugs on earth will give you his physique because the physique is mostly due to genetics.
Imagine thinking it is possible to get bigger being natural than the biggest roiders lol. lmao even
He's not bigger than the biggest roiders, are you saying Jeff is bigger than IFBB pros?
I think he's natty. Agree with this
he is 4'11, of course he's natural
>Manlet
>top genetics
Pick one
Tons of great bodybuilders were manlets
Also remember, just because the body looks like it can be achieved natty doesn't mean that the guy didn't roid.
A lot of great bodybuilders were manlets
obviously no one will know for sure but that a really believable natty physique. that base+10 years training + dwarf proportions make him look wide its not that wild
He's 5'2. His parents were blasting him with test when he was still adolescent and fucked up his development by letting his estrogen get too high which fused his growth plates prematurely. He has all the other markers of a very high testosterone individual - very wide shoulders/clavicles, wide head, developed jaw, extremely muscular, significant body hair development, yet he's a midget. No way he's a lifetime natty.
Natty, those are insane genetics on the left
My heart says he's natty, my brain says he's a fraud
he has that roiding chest hair he probs uses test only and had for years which has helped development massively
>roiding chest hair
kek, that's called being of germanic descent
no its not, its same type of chest hair all people on gear get
He’s natty, he would look dyel if he was 6’0 with the same amount of muscle
With those shoulders? No. Biggest tell.
He is so damn miniscule that he might actually be natty.
hes not much bigger than i am and i'm natty
I think if hes a professional lifter and fitness guy I can easily see it being natty
Wait Nippard is BIGGER than you??
I'm 6'2 250 but i meant proportions
and I'm not posting body go jerk off to a scooby video
post body
He was such a delicious shota
With his level of knowledge, dedication, and experience, I doubt he's on much if anything. If he roided, he'd be some kind of Larry Wheels freak. Imagine training religiously at the highest level of optimization for 14 straight years WHILE ROIDING. You wouldn't be benching 380 lbs and deadlifting 530.
Jeff’s a midget and been lifting since he was a teenager, I’m inclined to believe natty
Jeff is my favorite natty bodybuilder.
Plausible natty, but probably not.