Added sugar is bad. It does nothing for your body other than a small burst of energy. It spikes your insulin levels, adds unnecessary calories, and triggers your dopamine receptors to create a physical addiction.
>small burst of energy
This is a good thing >spikes your insulin levels
This only matters if you are already a fat retard >adds unnecessary calories
What does this even mean I need calories >triggers your dopamine receptors to create a physical addiction
Maybe if you are a weak willed ketoschizo
I dunno why but I feel more sick drinking orange or apple juice than sodas. I think its because there is both the natural sugar in the fruits plus all the additional sugar
>store bought
You could not be more american
FRESH ORANGE JUICE EXISTS moron and it is very healthy
Natural sugars are not the same as refined sugars, but fruit has much more than just sugar
I personally do high fiber, high far, high protein. I eat around 40 to 50 grams of fiber per day, 120 grams of carbs, 75 to 80 grams of fat about 150 grams of protein
>anything with more than 20% sugar >Anything with aspartame/sucralose/non natural sweeteners >Anything marketed at 'sliming' or 'plant based' just added industrial waste over regular ingredients >Fruit
Saying fruit juices are unhealthy isn’t a ketotard. Many people who consider fruit juices bad say fruits are good because of slower absorption of sugar in body due to the added fiber. Now if you say fruit juice and fruit is bad then that makes you a ketotard
Thanks bro i wasnt arguing with you. I was making a statement and then i insulted you. If you werent a retard. You would have known that. Up your reading comprehension
Members of my family have developed T2 diabetes because of fruit. Otherwise eat healthy (even for normie standards, don’t order food and eat whole foods like those in the sticky) no added sugars. No fried foods. Just LOVED fruits.
That's how you get monkeypox.
Diabeetus is caused by eating too much sugar every day. You can't get that from fruit alone. Your family members are lying to you while they hide big bags of Skittles and M&Ms all over the house and mau them when you're not around.
Diabetes is caused by intromyocellular fat buildup. The cell becomes filed with free fatty acids and insulin ceases to have a meaningful effect. You will never get diabetes from eating sugar, you must pair it with fat, and I think we can all agree that foods that are sugary and fatty are man made foods like poptarts and cookies and that they are not health foods
It's super easy to spot the carnivore and keto gays, assume everybody that doesn't agree with you is a vegan, must be the atherosclerosis limiting blood flow to your brain.
>Members of my family have developed T2 diabetes because of fruit.
LOL hahaha wtf is this delusional posting.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5388466/ >Among those without diabetes at baseline, higher fruit consumption was associated with significantly lower risk of developing diabetes >Among those with baseline diabetes, higher fruit consumption was associated with lower risks of all-cause mortality
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23990623/ >Greater consumption of specific whole fruits, particularly blueberries, grapes, and apples, is significantly associated with a lower risk of type 2 diabetes
I'm not inclined to believe him who seems to be going off superstition or some guy posting food studies which are well known to amount to nothing and don't take into consideration other factors outside of fruit. The controls on those studies were hilariously ham fisted. You two morons are basically a couple of fish arguing about the best way to climb a tree.
>ham fisted controls
What the fuck are you dribbling about you midwit? These are epidemiology studies, not randomized controlled trials. Holy shit you write like such a gay. If you need randomized controlled trials to tell you that fruit are healthy and OBVIOUSLY don't cause diabetes, you are a hopeless individual.
They did a study with a bunch of chinks who filled out a questionaire (kek) And they determined through this cast iron study that by eating slightly more fruit gave a 12% (LOL) less chance of diabetes. They somehow determined if you eat more fruit you have 17% less chance of dying. On a "7 year study" ( later it says it was conducted from 2004-2008, kek) no less. 4 years to determine if esting a certain amount of a food can kill you or not. Hey anon, I have some magic beans for sale if you're interested. >B..b..but muh epimediology! It'sth rock solid! NOOOOOO!
Shove your gay study up your ass you brain dead fruit
The ramblings of an insane person on a subject he has never studied before. I don't even know what your point is. You don't know how epidemiology works? You don't care because you don't like epidemiology? There is a countless number of studies on diabetes and fruit, all pointing towards the fact that fruit obviously don't cause diabetes.
Here is a randomized controlled trial, which is what you mistakenly thought the first 2 studies were before I gently told you they were epidemiology studies (you're welcome for teaching you today).
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23497350/ >Effect of fruit restriction on glycemic control in patients with type 2 diabetes--a randomized trial >The high-fruit group increased fruit intake with 125 grams and the low-fruit group reduced intake with 51 grams >HbA1c decreased in both groups with no difference between the groups >Both groups reduced body weight and waist circumference, however there was no difference between the groups.
I'm not going to fetch you any more studies because you clearly don't know how to read research and you aren't a genuinely curious person.
>Between June 2004 and July 2008, the nationwide China Kadoorie Biobank study recruited 0.5 million adults >During ~7 y of follow-up, 9,504 new diabetes cases were recorded
Is English your second language? There is no contradiction here and this makes perfect sense to me, and I am a native English speaker.
Obviously people who eat nothing but trash / junk food would have higher risk of T2 than those who eat *some* fruit and vegetables. This doesn’t prove that fruit reduces T2 risk, all it proves is that by displacing some of the fast food with other foods, lowers risk. You could also observe the same result from someone who simply eats less, or someone who replaced the junk food with only meat.
>This doesn’t prove that fruit reduces T2 risk
that's not even what we're talking about. he said "fruit gave my family diabetes" and i'm pointing out that is nonsense. >all it proves is that by displacing some of the fast food with other foods, lowers risk
you are agreeing with me at the same time you're disagreeing with me. >or someone who replaced the junk food with only meat.
if someone said "members of my family developed T2 diabetes because of meat" i similarly would call them delusional and i severely hope you would agree with me.
>conveniently ignoring the fact that cows are caged, fed a totally unnatural diet, and pumped full of hormones
but nooo you can't eat asparagus because pesticides
lolol carnivores are delusional
Orange juice ain’t unhealthy dumbass
store bought has as much sugar as a coke, and for once, this isnt an America only thing
>sugar bad because...it just is ok??
The ketotard strikes again
Added sugar is bad. It does nothing for your body other than a small burst of energy. It spikes your insulin levels, adds unnecessary calories, and triggers your dopamine receptors to create a physical addiction.
Dont argue with retards anon
OBVIOUSLY OP meant 100% juice without any added sugar.
>small burst of energy
This is a good thing
>spikes your insulin levels
This only matters if you are already a fat retard
>adds unnecessary calories
What does this even mean I need calories
>triggers your dopamine receptors to create a physical addiction
Maybe if you are a weak willed ketoschizo
I've never read so much cope in a single post.
Ketolard detected post body
I dunno why but I feel more sick drinking orange or apple juice than sodas. I think its because there is both the natural sugar in the fruits plus all the additional sugar
>I feel more sick drinking orange or apple juice than sodas
literally only dyels talk about feeling sick after eating something
>buying reconstituted orange juice with added sugar
People don’t actually do this right?
ITT: OP is a retarded gay
>store bought
You could not be more american
FRESH ORANGE JUICE EXISTS moron and it is very healthy
Natural sugars are not the same as refined sugars, but fruit has much more than just sugar
>ITT: Unhealthy foods that everyone thinks is healthy
Nice bait satan
high concentration of garden gnomes in this thread
garden gnomes are the ones who don't want you to eat sugar and sat fat you utter retard
That’s right goy follow my low carb high fat diet so I can eventually introduce you to a ~~*cardiologist*~~ friend of mine
how about high protein high carb high fat?
I personally do high fiber, high far, high protein. I eat around 40 to 50 grams of fiber per day, 120 grams of carbs, 75 to 80 grams of fat about 150 grams of protein
Nice try vegan. Still eating meat. Dilate with a carrot stick.
I'm gnomish, work for an astroturfing company, and get paid to tell you that PUFA is bad. AMA.
Concentrate? juice? Really?!
Don't tell me none of you realized...
>eat the most expensive protein goyim, preferably in rectangular shape
>no counterclaim
>its garden gnomes
Its the garden gnomes.
Great argument
>666
>Mongolian diet is BAD
Xiao. Get the war drum
Mushed peas
Fish and chips
Black tea with milk
Fried eggs with sausages
The list goes on…
>not eating a full english every morning on a bulk
ngmi johnny foreigner
Fuck you m8, we just lost the queen, don’t go shitting on our breakfast
Add some pulp and its good
>pulp
Don't you mean juicy bits?
great bait. Juice IS FUCKING AMAZING, esp. for bulking
What's the problem here if it doesn't have hydrogenated oils added? I eat natural PB daily for extra calories
I prefer natural grapefruit juice. No added sugar and nearly as bitter as myself.
Me too. I never drink the juice made from those synthetic grapefruits. Gross.
>single-handedly made the entire asia into malnourished, short and weak "men"
heh
>anything with more than 20% sugar
>Anything with aspartame/sucralose/non natural sweeteners
>Anything marketed at 'sliming' or 'plant based' just added industrial waste over regular ingredients
>Fruit
No one can agree on what is healthy and unhealthy wow shocker
A good amount of us can, but you have all the ketolards, veganfags, and permadyels shitting up the board
Saying fruit juices are unhealthy isn’t a ketotard. Many people who consider fruit juices bad say fruits are good because of slower absorption of sugar in body due to the added fiber. Now if you say fruit juice and fruit is bad then that makes you a ketotard
Just had a big glass of OJ
Lost of silver and gold era bodybuilders would jug OJ.
And if it was good enough for them its good enough for me
Op btfo
Based as fuck.
Love me post-workout orange juice bros.
Fructose only replenished liver glycogen, not muscle glycogen. Fruit isn't optimal pwo
So?
mike o hearn drinks shitloads of oj. check his eating videos,
Good for him. Its not doing anything for his muscular glycogen.
>Hitler ate chicken so chicken is objectively bad
This is your argument
Well idk hes huge and youre a dyel. Sooo. Im gonna go with the titan
Good argument you win
Thanks bro i wasnt arguing with you. I was making a statement and then i insulted you. If you werent a retard. You would have known that. Up your reading comprehension
>Lost of silver and gold era bodybuilders would jug OJ.
Source; trust me bro
Source: Instagram
Are you questioning the reliability of things posted on instagram?
Redpill me on OJ overdosing
Orange juice is good for you
This stuff is being advertised as the healthiest shit all over western Europe. And it's addictive as hell.
Fruits.
Members of my family have developed T2 diabetes because of fruit. Otherwise eat healthy (even for normie standards, don’t order food and eat whole foods like those in the sticky) no added sugars. No fried foods. Just LOVED fruits.
STOP EATING FRUIT.
Shut up bro
Its fruit juice that's the main issue because drinking it causes insulin spikes
>Members of my family have developed T2 diabetes
It was because they're fat
>Fruits
That's how you get monkeypox.
Diabeetus is caused by eating too much sugar every day. You can't get that from fruit alone. Your family members are lying to you while they hide big bags of Skittles and M&Ms all over the house and mau them when you're not around.
Diabetes is caused by intromyocellular fat buildup. The cell becomes filed with free fatty acids and insulin ceases to have a meaningful effect. You will never get diabetes from eating sugar, you must pair it with fat, and I think we can all agree that foods that are sugary and fatty are man made foods like poptarts and cookies and that they are not health foods
Vegan diets do almost nothing for diabetes. Your brain is rotting from lack of omega 3s
I'm not a vegan dude holy crap chill I'm sorry you don't like facts
>straight, easy to understand and accurate information
>AAAAH VEGANNNNN
> Vegan diets do almost nothing for diabetes
They have some of the lowest rates of diabetes in America
And disease and all cause mortality but who's counting vegetables are bad eat butter and bacon remember
It's super easy to spot the carnivore and keto gays, assume everybody that doesn't agree with you is a vegan, must be the atherosclerosis limiting blood flow to your brain.
I never eat fruits kek I don't like them. Maybe I will indulge for a banana in a mixe yogurt or something
>Members of my family have developed T2 diabetes because of fruit.
LOL hahaha wtf is this delusional posting.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5388466/
>Among those without diabetes at baseline, higher fruit consumption was associated with significantly lower risk of developing diabetes
>Among those with baseline diabetes, higher fruit consumption was associated with lower risks of all-cause mortality
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23990623/
>Greater consumption of specific whole fruits, particularly blueberries, grapes, and apples, is significantly associated with a lower risk of type 2 diabetes
I'm not inclined to believe him who seems to be going off superstition or some guy posting food studies which are well known to amount to nothing and don't take into consideration other factors outside of fruit. The controls on those studies were hilariously ham fisted. You two morons are basically a couple of fish arguing about the best way to climb a tree.
>ham fisted controls
What the fuck are you dribbling about you midwit? These are epidemiology studies, not randomized controlled trials. Holy shit you write like such a gay. If you need randomized controlled trials to tell you that fruit are healthy and OBVIOUSLY don't cause diabetes, you are a hopeless individual.
They did a study with a bunch of chinks who filled out a questionaire (kek) And they determined through this cast iron study that by eating slightly more fruit gave a 12% (LOL) less chance of diabetes. They somehow determined if you eat more fruit you have 17% less chance of dying. On a "7 year study" ( later it says it was conducted from 2004-2008, kek) no less. 4 years to determine if esting a certain amount of a food can kill you or not. Hey anon, I have some magic beans for sale if you're interested.
>B..b..but muh epimediology! It'sth rock solid! NOOOOOO!
Shove your gay study up your ass you brain dead fruit
The ramblings of an insane person on a subject he has never studied before. I don't even know what your point is. You don't know how epidemiology works? You don't care because you don't like epidemiology? There is a countless number of studies on diabetes and fruit, all pointing towards the fact that fruit obviously don't cause diabetes.
Here is a randomized controlled trial, which is what you mistakenly thought the first 2 studies were before I gently told you they were epidemiology studies (you're welcome for teaching you today).
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23497350/
>Effect of fruit restriction on glycemic control in patients with type 2 diabetes--a randomized trial
>The high-fruit group increased fruit intake with 125 grams and the low-fruit group reduced intake with 51 grams
>HbA1c decreased in both groups with no difference between the groups
>Both groups reduced body weight and waist circumference, however there was no difference between the groups.
I'm not going to fetch you any more studies because you clearly don't know how to read research and you aren't a genuinely curious person.
>Between June 2004 and July 2008, the nationwide China Kadoorie Biobank study recruited 0.5 million adults
>During ~7 y of follow-up, 9,504 new diabetes cases were recorded
Is English your second language? There is no contradiction here and this makes perfect sense to me, and I am a native English speaker.
>Hur dur, what is corollary vs causation??
Obviously people who eat nothing but trash / junk food would have higher risk of T2 than those who eat *some* fruit and vegetables. This doesn’t prove that fruit reduces T2 risk, all it proves is that by displacing some of the fast food with other foods, lowers risk. You could also observe the same result from someone who simply eats less, or someone who replaced the junk food with only meat.
>This doesn’t prove that fruit reduces T2 risk
that's not even what we're talking about. he said "fruit gave my family diabetes" and i'm pointing out that is nonsense.
>all it proves is that by displacing some of the fast food with other foods, lowers risk
you are agreeing with me at the same time you're disagreeing with me.
>or someone who replaced the junk food with only meat.
if someone said "members of my family developed T2 diabetes because of meat" i similarly would call them delusional and i severely hope you would agree with me.
Just get fruit juice with no added sugar and all the pulp still in it bitch bros
Eh, depends on how much sugar they add
And it's probably still better than soda, so not the worst choice as far as drinks go
vegetables are the biggest health scam
majority of humans never ate them until around a few hundred years ago
>source: Instagram
>conveniently ignoring the fact that cows are caged, fed a totally unnatural diet, and pumped full of hormones
but nooo you can't eat asparagus because pesticides
lolol carnivores are delusional
this bro is retarded. his argument is that "vegetables don't want to be eaten." like beef wants to be eaten...
beef physically fights you to not be eaten, plants poison you so you don't eat any more of them
>majority of humans never ate them until around a few hundred years ago
Lmao what
Don't argue with these carnivore people
Go to any female fitness influencer and pick anything they eat every day.
Comercial Jelly. Is not like old full of proteins jelly
>Unhealthy foods that everyone thinks is healthy
Nice post. Eating plant husks for health is such a retarded notion, but people can really be convinced of anything.
>how can we sell that last scrap of this awful and inedible plant for people to eat? Ah, fibre, I bet it has fibre.
I had some Metamucil because I was getting annoyed with smear on toilet paper and I was in severe cramping pain for a day