This is unironically true. I stalled like a retard for 3+ years because I thought I'm not supposed to get DOMS anymore because I'm not a beginner lifter.
Yeah the DOMS don't necessarily feel like literal first day after gym while getting 20g of protein but if you are not getting serious DOMS you are not training hard enough. If you can go to the gym 6-7 times a week you are not training hard enough. I started training with higher intensity and boy do I still get DOMS and the gains resemble babby euphoria.
I literally break a blood vessel in my shoulders pretty frequently and my shoulders have never been this big. I have trouble carrying my gym bag back to home after a workout because im so sore. This is just food for thought if someone stopped getting DOMS and also stopped making gains.
I agree bro. I’ve always done tricep pressdowns or overhead extensions. I tried out the 2 ropes pressdowns where you split at the bottom and my tris have started getting a much more intense contraction which is giving me that new feeling again. I think the body is a chest. You can have the good mindset but you do a repetitive activity day in day out your body finds the most efficient way to do it in whatever manner saves energy. Even with good form it’s like you get stuck in the slot you cut out for yourself. I unironically believe in confusing the muscle, it’s legit
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variation is of course important
but if you are causing ligament damagetennis elbow every single time there is a problem
arnold himself used lighter weights for his supersets
I’ve got no issues at all, I mean when you use 2 ropes on the pressdown and split your arms apart at the bottom when they’re fully extended. Leaning forwards a little, one rope in each hand. The contraction is way way better than overhead, lying extensions. Double or single handed DB extensions, pressdown. Nothing I’ve tried is like it
This is unironically true. I stalled like a retard for 3+ years because I thought I'm not supposed to get DOMS anymore because I'm not a beginner lifter.
Yeah the DOMS don't necessarily feel like literal first day after gym while getting 20g of protein but if you are not getting serious DOMS you are not training hard enough. If you can go to the gym 6-7 times a week you are not training hard enough. I started training with higher intensity and boy do I still get DOMS and the gains resemble babby euphoria.
I literally break a blood vessel in my shoulders pretty frequently and my shoulders have never been this big. I have trouble carrying my gym bag back to home after a workout because im so sore. This is just food for thought if someone stopped getting DOMS and also stopped making gains.
variation is of course important
but if you are causing ligament damagetennis elbow every single time there is a problem
arnold himself used lighter weights for his supersets
>lifting weights is magically better than calisthenics just because okay >weightlifting is completely safe because some anons said so >you won't get injured lifting weights if you're careful about your form >you can eat what you want if you lift more
I now focus 100% on diet and a daily calisthenic routine I can do at home. I'm 40 and in better physical shape than I was in my teens and twenties. Only thing I can't fix is the brain disorder I was born with.
>lifting weights is magically better than calisthenics just because okay
Ok here are some actual reasons then: >weights allow you to scale the resistance to the nearest 2.5kg, without changing the movement. This allows gradual steady progression >weights allow you to train legs much harder even as a beginner >the intensity of any calisthenics movement is limited by your bodyweight, whereas there is no real limit on how much weight a person could theoretically lift. Obviously for something like handstand push ups you have to be pretty strong to lift your bodyweight, but there are plenty of people who OHP more than their bodyweight. There is a reason none of the guys on World's Strongest Man prepare by doing calisthenics >the only way to get around the above is by adding weights to your calisthenics movements, at which point you are just lifting weights but in a more awkward fashion
Obviously you should do pull ups and dips and shit, but you should also lift weights if you want to be optimally fit. OTOH if you're too old and beat up to lift, calisthenics is better than nothing. Jim Wendler basically just does calisthenics with a weight vest now.
are real time gains you're making at the gym
I mean, they kinda are. Yeah it's not like each pump is adding muscle from the ether but the feeling of the pump, the feeling of micro tears, is real time sowing the seeds of gains.
That's actually a man this time
I would give him a kiss on the lips!
it's a girl
No shes my future wife
if im not so sore that i cant move im doing it wrong
This is unironically true. I stalled like a retard for 3+ years because I thought I'm not supposed to get DOMS anymore because I'm not a beginner lifter.
Yeah the DOMS don't necessarily feel like literal first day after gym while getting 20g of protein but if you are not getting serious DOMS you are not training hard enough. If you can go to the gym 6-7 times a week you are not training hard enough. I started training with higher intensity and boy do I still get DOMS and the gains resemble babby euphoria.
I literally break a blood vessel in my shoulders pretty frequently and my shoulders have never been this big. I have trouble carrying my gym bag back to home after a workout because im so sore. This is just food for thought if someone stopped getting DOMS and also stopped making gains.
you dont have to injure yourself anon
find the balance
the trick is to come right up to that point and stop - once i cant do more than 1-3 reps im done
I agree bro. I’ve always done tricep pressdowns or overhead extensions. I tried out the 2 ropes pressdowns where you split at the bottom and my tris have started getting a much more intense contraction which is giving me that new feeling again. I think the body is a chest. You can have the good mindset but you do a repetitive activity day in day out your body finds the most efficient way to do it in whatever manner saves energy. Even with good form it’s like you get stuck in the slot you cut out for yourself. I unironically believe in confusing the muscle, it’s legit
>I think the body is a chest
It's not... The chest is a part of the body.
I meant the body is a cheat
I’ve got no issues at all, I mean when you use 2 ropes on the pressdown and split your arms apart at the bottom when they’re fully extended. Leaning forwards a little, one rope in each hand. The contraction is way way better than overhead, lying extensions. Double or single handed DB extensions, pressdown. Nothing I’ve tried is like it
Do it for him
variation is of course important
but if you are causing ligament damagetennis elbow every single time there is a problem
arnold himself used lighter weights for his supersets
Confusing the muscle is just progressive overload.
Holy shit. There's actually lifters here?
>DOMS is not a signifier of growth
>pumps are real time gains you're making at the gym
I have never, ever heard of this in my 16 years of lifting. You zoomers are all fucking retards
bro this is when I was like 14 and my brother took me to the gym with him for shits and giggles
>getting fit will get me girls
It turned out to be true.
That all I cared about was getting strong, not getting chicks.
I thought I needed a pre, intra, and post workout and a stack of about ten vitamin supplements to make any gains.
>lifting weights is magically better than calisthenics just because okay
>weightlifting is completely safe because some anons said so
>you won't get injured lifting weights if you're careful about your form
>you can eat what you want if you lift more
I now focus 100% on diet and a daily calisthenic routine I can do at home. I'm 40 and in better physical shape than I was in my teens and twenties. Only thing I can't fix is the brain disorder I was born with.
>lifting weights is magically better than calisthenics just because okay
Ok here are some actual reasons then:
>weights allow you to scale the resistance to the nearest 2.5kg, without changing the movement. This allows gradual steady progression
>weights allow you to train legs much harder even as a beginner
>the intensity of any calisthenics movement is limited by your bodyweight, whereas there is no real limit on how much weight a person could theoretically lift. Obviously for something like handstand push ups you have to be pretty strong to lift your bodyweight, but there are plenty of people who OHP more than their bodyweight. There is a reason none of the guys on World's Strongest Man prepare by doing calisthenics
>the only way to get around the above is by adding weights to your calisthenics movements, at which point you are just lifting weights but in a more awkward fashion
Obviously you should do pull ups and dips and shit, but you should also lift weights if you want to be optimally fit. OTOH if you're too old and beat up to lift, calisthenics is better than nothing. Jim Wendler basically just does calisthenics with a weight vest now.
>I'm 40
I'm so sorry.
are real time gains you're making at the gym
I mean, they kinda are. Yeah it's not like each pump is adding muscle from the ether but the feeling of the pump, the feeling of micro tears, is real time sowing the seeds of gains.
>I am capable of becoming attractive to women
you are anon
>none of the jacked instagram influencers actually take steroids, they just work really hard
>volume is key
>you need 72h to recover