Alcohol is 7 calories per gram, closer to fats (9 cals per gram) than to carbs or protein (4 cals per gram).
And you're right, alcohol is treated LITERALLY like a poison to the body. It isn't treated in the same way a nutrient is. Your body truly considers alcohol a toxic poison and does all it can to get rid of it.
lmao I just fast when I go out, then right before I go I eat a couple of sandwhiches.
I've been losing weight for a few months, and I am steadily losing weight.
This. I drink 24 beers when going out, I don't get any Euphoria from nursing 10 beers a night. Also there is high risk I drink hair of the dog and friday suddebly turns to monday. This is why I only buy alcohol few times a year.
10 drinks a day isn't a hell of a lot on the alcoholic scale. It's not uncommon for heavy drinkers to be putting away a fifth or more of liquor a day. A select few do twice that and live for a surprisingly long time.
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I was at 70+ for a long while at my worst. Sober a year and a half now. Mentally ill is a good descriptor for what caused me to get that far.
Oh shit, just calculated- exactly 70 drinks/week.
I would drink ~500ml of 40% tequila a day, essentially get blackout every single night. I know it was ~500ml because I would go through 1.5L handle of tequila every 3 days, so I made sure to stock up Saturday for the week (rotating liquor stores so I didn't get judged lol.)
It was a real shit time in my life; dropped motorcycle on foot, led to weak back muscle, led to slipped disc, immense pain and inability to walk/exercise, alcohol ended up dulling the pain and oh hey, stopped me from being depressed for a while. Progressed to blackout every night which was a handle every 3 days. I drank every day for about 2, 2.5 years. Became obese, bloated alcohol face (see: Leo DiCaprio), "functional" alcoholic at work.
Managed to quit (too long a story), down 40lbs, life is a breath of fresh air now and way to fucking good to waste on that miserable shit.
I had pretty much exactly this experience and eventually I did just quit, now I drink maybe a 6 pack every month or 2 usually nothing at all during summer when im really busy with work
my trick was that I just focused on how shitty alcohol made me feel everytime I did it and i still do that
If they're going by the standard drink measurement so a 12oz 5% beer, 5oz 12% wine, and 1.5oz 80 proof shot, then I was easily 100+ drinks weekly for years. Feels good to be at the top.
It creeps up on you. I only managed to stay at ~40 because I refused to buy liquor, it had a nasty habit of disappearing. At least beer takes some effort to finish.
Used to be. Quitting drinking for 3 months to reset my system. I'm 1.5 weeks in ish. I think it negatively affected my BP and prevented me from losing weight. I'd wager 50-70 standard drinks was average depending on the week. About 100 calories per standard drink and I'll let you do the math at how quickly that added up. I can literally eat the exact same and lose 1-2 lbs per week...
I used to drink a handle a day. That’s 210 drinks a week. I’d do a box of whippets with it too, pretty much every night. I did this for around 6 months. This was during COVID lockdowns when my life was a genuine nightmare, and then I started really hitting the bottle heavy after my best friend passed away. Lost my house, my entire friend group, and a good bit of my sanity. I also now randomly twitch/brain goes fuzzy for a sec maybe once a day.
I still drink occasionally but holy fuck I look back on that time in my life and feel sick. I’m honestly amazed I didn’t kill myself. It took years to recover. I feel great now but I hope to never go down that path again.
If you’re drinking to cope with your feelings, go to the gym instead.
When people ask something like this I assume they are either autistic or have never done a drug in their life and are probably extremely sheltered. And I'm not saying drugs are good, but I can at least understand why people do them and get addicted to them.
It's a legitimate question.
My mother is addicted to coffee. She has ZERO need for caffeine, but damn does she (and my father) drink gallons of coffee every day.
>I should totally live my life around the type of individuals that frequent parties and drink alcohol. >My life will improve if I do!
You are low-class.
Except you don't have more fun when drinking, you just become temporarily retarded. I've seen so many dudes get depressed and cry while drunk, or even stumble around and fall on their face.
It is the psyop of the millennium.
https://i.imgur.com/m4CfN74.jpg
>go to nightclubs and bars >only order stuff like green tea at the bar >people ask me "hey what's that kinda drink" >"oh just some cocktail" >everyone gets shitfaced and I party with them while still staying healthy
Being sober at a parties is still pretty fun
I have extremely high alcohol tolerance so I usually just pretend that I'm drinking while sipping on one beer all day
Thats it? Man thats fuckall. In a 5k run you burn about 400, and if you skip meals on the sunday youll be in credit anyway. If its seriously only 800 cals then staying in shape must be effortless.
>muh calories
That's not the problem. Consume 800 calories worth of steak regularly and pretend it's your vice, see how fit you're going to be.
It's fucking up your sleep, fucking up your hormones, throwing your training schedule off balance, and getting 800 calories worth of very bad carbs that dehydrate you.
Alcohol is not just calories, it's a drug. You're doing a drug and living this drug's lifestyle.
Refer to Matthew 6:24. >No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.
As such, you cannot be both an athlete and a drunk. At most you can be a casual lifter who drinks, or a lifter who drinks on occasion. Choose one to excel in.
Name 5 men remembered after their death for their groundbreaking acts that defined the course of whatever field they involve, for two or more completely unrelated fields.
You can have a bunch of hobbies and change careers and be good, but to be the greatest, you need devotion, and that's greater than just discipline.
Leonardo da Vinci
Benjamin Franklin
Leon Battista Alberti
Linus Pauling
Marie Curie
I named 6 in case you move the goalposts and say Marie is a woman. You're just an illiterate retard.
Mikhail Vasilyevich Lomonosov
Depends how you define stay in shape. I drink beer every day and whiskey on nights out. I dont have shredded abs but I can probably outlift you, outrun you, outfuck you and outfight you. Being lean does not mean you are good at performance.
>800 calories
what kind of bullshit is this, bottle of dry red wine is already 600 calories, 0,5l of beer, thats one bottle in europe, is about 250-300 calories, on a night out a slap in thousands of calories not 800
Just stop drinking. It's simple. I spend 6 months farting around "cutting back" before quitting becuase I had convinced myself I couldn't stop becuase I'd get withdrawls. I never cut back in actuality and I'm currently 1.5 weeks in to no alch and have yet to have any real issues.
There are 230 calories in pint of beer. A night out of drinking is six imperial pints, easily.
1200 calories in a burger and chips platter
That's well over 3000 calories. Who goes out for a night of drinking with 800 calories? Are americans cheap drunks or something?.
The article is saying the average person EATS 800 calories after drinking. I'm guessing the actual numbers are mostly split between ~1600 and 0, so 800 is the "average".
From the drinks themselves, I suppose you could hit 800 if you only did shots, but craft beers, mixed drinks, or wine? 1500-3000 easy.
I fucking hope so, living with a friend who, it turns out, is an alchy, absolute mess and I can't wait to move into my own place, even if it's a shitty little studio
I've never drank or done any drugs. I'm scared to do any of it but their reason why I probably haven't is because I had no friends in highschool or college
>go to nightclubs and bars >only order stuff like green tea at the bar >people ask me "hey what's that kinda drink" >"oh just some cocktail" >everyone gets shitfaced and I party with them while still staying healthy
How long does it take for beer bloat to go away, especially on the face? I switched from liquor to beer in an attempt to start tapering, and it's gone well but the bloat is making me want to accelerate the sobriety even harder
Probably depends on the person, realistically 2 weeks but also as little as 3-4 days.
Weirdly enough, days 2-4 of a bender while still drinking you’re so dehydrated you’ll look better than normal from my experience. When you stop the bender then it’s days 2-4 you look the worst as your body starts to retain all water again
Just making the effort to stop drinking and watching porn. And channeling that energy to wake up early and work out 5 days a week has been amazing for my health. I’m still struggling with my addictions but the reduction and impact is noticeable already.
Then stop drinking?? What do you want to hear
>Then stop drinking??
I quit drinking already
>What do you want to hear
Nothing in particular
How would you have sex without alcohol? Virgin detected.
By having a good body
>I was joking
Irrelevant. I win again.
Phenibut
>Skips a meal to make room for the 'col.
Nothing personal, liver.
Meals aren't just for calories and the problem with alcohol isn't just the calories
IIFYM, chud.
>drinking over proof alcohol to get the most druk on the least calories
WHAT A LIFE
real grindset
you'll destroy your brain this way. I'd rather just be a little fat.
Skip a meal, take a multivitamin and NAC. Boom, no liver cancer.
wtf is NAC
n-acetyl cysteine
Your body uses it to make a powerful antioxidant
you metabolise calories from alcohol differently
of course if you're drinking a lot of beer or sugary cocktails that changes
Alcohol is 7 calories per gram, closer to fats (9 cals per gram) than to carbs or protein (4 cals per gram).
And you're right, alcohol is treated LITERALLY like a poison to the body. It isn't treated in the same way a nutrient is. Your body truly considers alcohol a toxic poison and does all it can to get rid of it.
lmao I just fast when I go out, then right before I go I eat a couple of sandwhiches.
I've been losing weight for a few months, and I am steadily losing weight.
Ok, but people concerned with alcohol are generally trying to build muscle
fair enough, I'm tired as shit and didn't read the thread properly.
just do an hour of cardio on days you are drinking
problem solved
Yes. People that drink too much usually have disgusting bodies
800 calories is a dozen eggs and i drink this daily
I'm a binge drinker and can easily drink probably thousands of calories, so I avoid drinking now mostly.
If I went out drinking now I'd probably put on 5kg of bloat immediately and be in a shitty mood for days.
This. I drink 24 beers when going out, I don't get any Euphoria from nursing 10 beers a night. Also there is high risk I drink hair of the dog and friday suddebly turns to monday. This is why I only buy alcohol few times a year.
Me. Except I spent 4 years or so indulging this habit. Finally got some semblance if control this year, Jesus knows what I've done to my liver
who the fuck drinks regularly? That's retard behaviour
>who the fuck drinks regularly?
sounds like you have no friends. Otherwise you would know literally every normal working adult drinks
that isn't true. most people will have the occasional drink but not all the time
t. top decile
>tfw used to drink 30-40 drinks a week
Good lord, how the fuck do you average 70??
By drinking twice as much
I was at 70+ for a long while at my worst. Sober a year and a half now. Mentally ill is a good descriptor for what caused me to get that far.
Jesus I can't imagine that. I'm glad I never really go into drinking. Good job though.
10 drinks a day isn't a hell of a lot on the alcoholic scale. It's not uncommon for heavy drinkers to be putting away a fifth or more of liquor a day. A select few do twice that and live for a surprisingly long time.
Oh shit, just calculated- exactly 70 drinks/week.
I would drink ~500ml of 40% tequila a day, essentially get blackout every single night. I know it was ~500ml because I would go through 1.5L handle of tequila every 3 days, so I made sure to stock up Saturday for the week (rotating liquor stores so I didn't get judged lol.)
It was a real shit time in my life; dropped motorcycle on foot, led to weak back muscle, led to slipped disc, immense pain and inability to walk/exercise, alcohol ended up dulling the pain and oh hey, stopped me from being depressed for a while. Progressed to blackout every night which was a handle every 3 days. I drank every day for about 2, 2.5 years. Became obese, bloated alcohol face (see: Leo DiCaprio), "functional" alcoholic at work.
Managed to quit (too long a story), down 40lbs, life is a breath of fresh air now and way to fucking good to waste on that miserable shit.
Ninth here and I still have visible abs. Maybe cause I’m not a nattyckuck
How's your liver holding up chief?
You will die before the age of 40
He has died of liver failure fifteen seconds after writing that post
>alcoholic AND a roidtranny
have fun dying in 5 years
74 drinks a week, good fucking god what? theres no fucking way some people do that, they have to be mentally ill
That's gotta be "chugging liquor every day" territory. I'm surprised they were able to get a concrete number at all.
i did it for years while working twice a day, eatting super clean.
literally made gains over that time.
Just when 7pm rolled around, time to relax and drink a pint of vodka and a few white claws. Every night for years.
A pint???? how is your liver?
Pint after work
60% of a bottle of wine with dinner
2 pints before bed
Go ham on Friday/Sat/Sun
Ez
Come have a little drinky poo with me bud
t. Gym Lahey
I used to be 28 beers a week. 1 Costco case. would buy 4 at a time for a month. I'm down to 12 beers a week. Probably will never quit fully.
I had pretty much exactly this experience and eventually I did just quit, now I drink maybe a 6 pack every month or 2 usually nothing at all during summer when im really busy with work
my trick was that I just focused on how shitty alcohol made me feel everytime I did it and i still do that
Hello dad
Wait a fucking minute, this chart includes everyone 18 and older....
If they're going by the standard drink measurement so a 12oz 5% beer, 5oz 12% wine, and 1.5oz 80 proof shot, then I was easily 100+ drinks weekly for years. Feels good to be at the top.
what compelled you do be that way
It creeps up on you. I only managed to stay at ~40 because I refused to buy liquor, it had a nasty habit of disappearing. At least beer takes some effort to finish.
It was a lot of fun.
The mask thing seems like a fever dream now
Koreans are so mid but they love drinking. Shit, I really need to take a vacation there.
they have so much plastic surgery they can barely move their faces.
Is this real? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abnEeNWxzNM
I bet my alcoholic score is the same as my IQ score.
I am on top ten and trying to take a break rn. had one beer today.
Used to be. Quitting drinking for 3 months to reset my system. I'm 1.5 weeks in ish. I think it negatively affected my BP and prevented me from losing weight. I'd wager 50-70 standard drinks was average depending on the week. About 100 calories per standard drink and I'll let you do the math at how quickly that added up. I can literally eat the exact same and lose 1-2 lbs per week...
I used to drink a handle a day. That’s 210 drinks a week. I’d do a box of whippets with it too, pretty much every night. I did this for around 6 months. This was during COVID lockdowns when my life was a genuine nightmare, and then I started really hitting the bottle heavy after my best friend passed away. Lost my house, my entire friend group, and a good bit of my sanity. I also now randomly twitch/brain goes fuzzy for a sec maybe once a day.
I still drink occasionally but holy fuck I look back on that time in my life and feel sick. I’m honestly amazed I didn’t kill myself. It took years to recover. I feel great now but I hope to never go down that path again.
If you’re drinking to cope with your feelings, go to the gym instead.
kys you fucking raghead. I will buy booze and have fun.
>most normal adults drink
what makes you think that's normal behaviour, and having a drink on the weekend is not drinking regularly
Having a single(1) drink is not, getting buzzed or drunk every weekend is drinking regularly you misleading homosexual
regularly is daily you retarded zoom zoom
Most people do, you special snowflake
i used to drink almost 2L of vodka on the weekends, granted im 23 but on mondays you just feel sick. It fucks up your gut microbiome so I had to stop.
>never drank a drop in my life
lmao i do not have this problem and i think it's hilarious that the rest of the human population does
Dave draper did it
My physical fitness peaked when I was drinking at least every other day
GHB calories?
yea. do it like once a month max and never get totally wasted. drink spirits to keep the cals low. I think vodka is like 70 cals per standard.
I basically have to stop drinking on a cut. Even if I'm watching my drinks and I know the calories, the moment I'm slightly tipsy I'm snacking.
i have a weird metabolism i must've inherited from my alcoholic father. i drink a 6 pack a night and stay skinny
why would you drink alcohol in the first place?
To praise Dionysus
When people ask something like this I assume they are either autistic or have never done a drug in their life and are probably extremely sheltered. And I'm not saying drugs are good, but I can at least understand why people do them and get addicted to them.
It's a legitimate question.
My mother is addicted to coffee. She has ZERO need for caffeine, but damn does she (and my father) drink gallons of coffee every day.
It's stupid.
I hate this reddit comeback but
>you must be fun at the parties
>I should totally live my life around the type of individuals that frequent parties and drink alcohol.
>My life will improve if I do!
You are low-class.
Except you don't have more fun when drinking, you just become temporarily retarded. I've seen so many dudes get depressed and cry while drunk, or even stumble around and fall on their face.
It is the psyop of the millennium.
based
Being sober at a parties is still pretty fun
I have extremely high alcohol tolerance so I usually just pretend that I'm drinking while sipping on one beer all day
Correct
>It's almost impossible to drink regularly and stay in shape
I'm just that good
Thats it? Man thats fuckall. In a 5k run you burn about 400, and if you skip meals on the sunday youll be in credit anyway. If its seriously only 800 cals then staying in shape must be effortless.
>muh calories
That's not the problem. Consume 800 calories worth of steak regularly and pretend it's your vice, see how fit you're going to be.
It's fucking up your sleep, fucking up your hormones, throwing your training schedule off balance, and getting 800 calories worth of very bad carbs that dehydrate you.
Alcohol is not just calories, it's a drug. You're doing a drug and living this drug's lifestyle.
Refer to Matthew 6:24.
>No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.
As such, you cannot be both an athlete and a drunk. At most you can be a casual lifter who drinks, or a lifter who drinks on occasion. Choose one to excel in.
>No man can serve two master because... BECAUSE HE JUST CANT, OK?!?!
Name 5 men remembered after their death for their groundbreaking acts that defined the course of whatever field they involve, for two or more completely unrelated fields.
You can have a bunch of hobbies and change careers and be good, but to be the greatest, you need devotion, and that's greater than just discipline.
Leonardo da Vinci
Benjamin Franklin
Leon Battista Alberti
Linus Pauling
Marie Curie
I named 6 in case you move the goalposts and say Marie is a woman. You're just an illiterate retard.
Mikhail Vasilyevich Lomonosov
Lord Kelvin
You clearly are undereducated on the greats
Me and my 4 bros
drinking without blacking out is like fucking without nutting
that doesnt sound like a lot t b h
You just have to learn moderation. If you can’t handle moderation, then you have to quit. Simple as.
Depends how you define stay in shape. I drink beer every day and whiskey on nights out. I dont have shredded abs but I can probably outlift you, outrun you, outfuck you and outfight you. Being lean does not mean you are good at performance.
>800 calories
what kind of bullshit is this, bottle of dry red wine is already 600 calories, 0,5l of beer, thats one bottle in europe, is about 250-300 calories, on a night out a slap in thousands of calories not 800
800kcal is fucking nothing. You're also on your feet for 5-8 hours.
I even consume close to 800 kcal after a night of not drinking. It's called breakfast.
>do OMAD
>drink 3 glasses of wine on an empty stomach (200kcals tops)
>get hammered
>eat your OMAD meal
It's literally that easy.
I’m 37 and have drunk 6 beers every night since approximately age 20, some periods of time during that I drunk a lot more than 6 as well.
I’m 6’4, 205, strong and I’m not the most lean but I’m happy with my physique
I would love to stop drinking, however it’s hard to say that it’s ruined my physique
Just stop drinking. It's simple. I spend 6 months farting around "cutting back" before quitting becuase I had convinced myself I couldn't stop becuase I'd get withdrawls. I never cut back in actuality and I'm currently 1.5 weeks in to no alch and have yet to have any real issues.
cope
have you considered lifting?
just do coke instead
800?????
There are 230 calories in pint of beer. A night out of drinking is six imperial pints, easily.
1200 calories in a burger and chips platter
That's well over 3000 calories. Who goes out for a night of drinking with 800 calories? Are americans cheap drunks or something?.
The article is saying the average person EATS 800 calories after drinking. I'm guessing the actual numbers are mostly split between ~1600 and 0, so 800 is the "average".
From the drinks themselves, I suppose you could hit 800 if you only did shots, but craft beers, mixed drinks, or wine? 1500-3000 easy.
Alchies are legitimately pathetic
Zoomers will kill the alchy as a concept
I fucking hope so, living with a friend who, it turns out, is an alchy, absolute mess and I can't wait to move into my own place, even if it's a shitty little studio
Avoiding polyunsaturated fats will eliminate like 80% of the hard from drinking.
Just don't let it fuck your sleep up. That'll do a shit ton more than you think.
So don't drink alcoholic beverages.
Or carbonated beverages, for that matter. And stop drinking Starbucks.
It's not like "potable" is hard to come by, these days.
I've never drank or done any drugs. I'm scared to do any of it but their reason why I probably haven't is because I had no friends in highschool or college
Only 100 or 200 is enough to make me buzzed
when i drink i add 1000 calories to my mental notes and basically just skip dinner, it works really well
>go to nightclubs and bars
>only order stuff like green tea at the bar
>people ask me "hey what's that kinda drink"
>"oh just some cocktail"
>everyone gets shitfaced and I party with them while still staying healthy
Get rekt normies
How long does it take for beer bloat to go away, especially on the face? I switched from liquor to beer in an attempt to start tapering, and it's gone well but the bloat is making me want to accelerate the sobriety even harder
Probably depends on the person, realistically 2 weeks but also as little as 3-4 days.
Weirdly enough, days 2-4 of a bender while still drinking you’re so dehydrated you’ll look better than normal from my experience. When you stop the bender then it’s days 2-4 you look the worst as your body starts to retain all water again
Just making the effort to stop drinking and watching porn. And channeling that energy to wake up early and work out 5 days a week has been amazing for my health. I’m still struggling with my addictions but the reduction and impact is noticeable already.
I do neither of these lifts.
Deadlift => cable pulltrough
Squat => bulgarian split squat
Bench press => crush grip DB press
OHP => Arnold press
Can you elaborate on the cable pull through replacing deadlifts?
Deadlift (hip hinge) => cable pull trough (hip hinge)
I'm in shape and drink 1.25 glasses of wine a day on average which I'd say is pretty regular.
Is this why I'm fat despite following a rigorous diet?
I drink around 1,5litres of pinga per day
How the fuck do I permanetly quit the liquid israelite? I got so drunk that all my money is gone and I never want to do that again
I don't drink any booze and I'm still a fatty