The only way to do that is with training ridiculous levels of volume. I think the only athletes who deal with that on average are extreme distance runners.
It's the opposite, actually. Once you get to the point where you can lift very heavy it's a 1 rep max that will fry your cns more than anything. It's normal for top level athletes to pull 400+ kilos and then barely be able to do 300 kilos a few days later.
not even fucking close where does this even come from? because your wrists are sore? because your shoulders are sore for a long time? ohp is one of the movements i recommend you often do amrap for
Fair enough. From my experience a heavy press is harder than a heavy deadlift. I also know a lot of people who can deadlift decent weight (5-6 plates) but very few who can press decent weight (2-3 plates). Pressing heavy is very hard on your wrists, your elbows, and your shoulders. Especially if you are doing reps with ~90% of your 1RM. Deadlifting I find only really hard on my lower back and I mostly feel it afterward. But obviously take all this with a grain of salt as it is based on my subjective experience.
1 year ago
Anonymous
yeah I dont think I'll ever be able to OHP 100kgs, but definitely harder to progress with it, sure
1 year ago
Anonymous
Nor do you need to. It's a very specific strength goal and takes ages to develop because there are so many choke points (i.e., wrists, elbows, shoulders, back). However, if we're talking about lighter weight for reps, deadlifts are probably more tiring as there's more 'movement' invovled, if that makes sense.
1 year ago
Anonymous
movement is one thing when it comes to CNS frying, the main thing behind it is how much muscle fiber is being recruited at any given time for the movement. bigger the muscles, bigger the weight, obviously more will be involved. that's why I find heavy squats and heavy deadlifts the most tiring lifts of them all.
1 year ago
Anonymous
To each their own. To me, log is the worst of any lift I do for 'frying' me. Deadlift isn't that bad actually. But maybe that's just because I'm better at deadlifting than log pressing. It's all subjective in the end.
1 year ago
Anonymous
I think you may confuse precieved effort with CNS fatique
1 year ago
Anonymous
Idk, the whole 'cns' stuff sounds like bro-science to me. My lived experience is that pressing is harder. If you find the oppsite to be true, that's fine.
1 year ago
Anonymous
nah, that what I found too. I dont think it's bullshit tho, my performance definitely suffers when I havent taken enough rest after a tiring workout, sometimes it's all over the place
1 year ago
Anonymous
True, there are so many variables like rest, nutrition and mental health that play into this. Hard to say any one thing is to blame for anything performance related.
1 year ago
Anonymous
> smaller muscles can move less weight than bigger
It still doesn't fry CNS half as much as a DL.
1 year ago
Anonymous
This is your experience. Mine is the exact opposite. I actually don't find deadlifts that bad. Squats I find a bit harder and pressing the hardest, with log frying me more than anything.
1 year ago
Anonymous
What are your numbers? Do you have a super poverty DL or what?
1 year ago
Anonymous
Best deadlift is 585. Most I've done recently is 525, as I have been focusing on log.
Log is currently 270. My goal is 300 but it's still a ways away.
1 year ago
Anonymous
powersharters should stay in their containment thread
I think I know what you are getting at, I get blurry vision on OHP more often these days, and not at all with deadlifts anymore.
But I think a reason for that could be that the OHP starting position restricts blood flow to the brain. This is also why i stopped doing OHP outside of the safetys
what? no
No.
no
>Cns frying
Meme that you will never have to worry about
The only way to do that is with training ridiculous levels of volume. I think the only athletes who deal with that on average are extreme distance runners.
It's the opposite, actually. Once you get to the point where you can lift very heavy it's a 1 rep max that will fry your cns more than anything. It's normal for top level athletes to pull 400+ kilos and then barely be able to do 300 kilos a few days later.
Hello jason
Nope.
not even fucking close where does this even come from? because your wrists are sore? because your shoulders are sore for a long time? ohp is one of the movements i recommend you often do amrap for
i ohp everyday
Because it's a harder lift than deadlift.
How much can you press? How much can you deadlift?
OHP 60kg 5x6
I dont really DL anymore but can pull 140 easily, so probably more than that
Fair enough. From my experience a heavy press is harder than a heavy deadlift. I also know a lot of people who can deadlift decent weight (5-6 plates) but very few who can press decent weight (2-3 plates). Pressing heavy is very hard on your wrists, your elbows, and your shoulders. Especially if you are doing reps with ~90% of your 1RM. Deadlifting I find only really hard on my lower back and I mostly feel it afterward. But obviously take all this with a grain of salt as it is based on my subjective experience.
yeah I dont think I'll ever be able to OHP 100kgs, but definitely harder to progress with it, sure
Nor do you need to. It's a very specific strength goal and takes ages to develop because there are so many choke points (i.e., wrists, elbows, shoulders, back). However, if we're talking about lighter weight for reps, deadlifts are probably more tiring as there's more 'movement' invovled, if that makes sense.
movement is one thing when it comes to CNS frying, the main thing behind it is how much muscle fiber is being recruited at any given time for the movement. bigger the muscles, bigger the weight, obviously more will be involved. that's why I find heavy squats and heavy deadlifts the most tiring lifts of them all.
To each their own. To me, log is the worst of any lift I do for 'frying' me. Deadlift isn't that bad actually. But maybe that's just because I'm better at deadlifting than log pressing. It's all subjective in the end.
I think you may confuse precieved effort with CNS fatique
Idk, the whole 'cns' stuff sounds like bro-science to me. My lived experience is that pressing is harder. If you find the oppsite to be true, that's fine.
nah, that what I found too. I dont think it's bullshit tho, my performance definitely suffers when I havent taken enough rest after a tiring workout, sometimes it's all over the place
True, there are so many variables like rest, nutrition and mental health that play into this. Hard to say any one thing is to blame for anything performance related.
> smaller muscles can move less weight than bigger
It still doesn't fry CNS half as much as a DL.
This is your experience. Mine is the exact opposite. I actually don't find deadlifts that bad. Squats I find a bit harder and pressing the hardest, with log frying me more than anything.
What are your numbers? Do you have a super poverty DL or what?
Best deadlift is 585. Most I've done recently is 525, as I have been focusing on log.
Log is currently 270. My goal is 300 but it's still a ways away.
powersharters should stay in their containment thread
I dont do either but when i did I could ohp 165x2 and dl 355x1
I was about 155
I’m 1.5pl8 OHP but can barely deadlift 3.5
Lol, how?
Do you never work your back or legs? Lmao
I hit 1 pl8 military press for my 1rm and I only deadlift 225 3x5
Deadlifting sucks. Simple as
I think I know what you are getting at, I get blurry vision on OHP more often these days, and not at all with deadlifts anymore.
But I think a reason for that could be that the OHP starting position restricts blood flow to the brain. This is also why i stopped doing OHP outside of the safetys
If your CNS--brain and spinal cord--were fried, you would be dead.