>Not enough muscle to be extremely attractive to women. They’d choose a jacked guy with an 8/10 face over Barrett’s 9/10 face and twink body
wrong, you only look at things through the male gaze. women really dont find big muscles attractive, they find youthful features more so. twink ottermode body, non balding and good face and height is way more important than big muscles
Women find character (social status) way more appealing than being a twink or a buff daddy. I'm 167cm or 5' 6" in burger and the only time I fucked on the first date was when I told some ONG homosexuals asking for moneyto fuck off (respectfully). After telling them off her smile on her face was so big I could tell she was mentally sucking me off.
I was not in good shape either. I was barely overweight (24,5 BMI) but still scored because I commanded respect. That's what women want, you can lift all you want but if you are still a pussy who can't say no women will be turned off INSTANTLY.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>Women find character (social status) way more appealing than being a twink or a buff daddy
no they dont and it is scientifically proven that face and physical features are the most important thing in initial romance. Face and height are the most important for women
Physical Attractiveness is the Strongest Predictor of Initial Romantic Interest in Both Sexes; No Evidence Male Personality Plays Any Role for Women (Luo & Zhang, 2009)
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19558447
A greater height difference in a couple was positively related to the wife's happiness
A man's height determines his dating pool. Over 94% of women reject men for being "too short
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/pdf/10.1177/1474704916671522 >Women find character (social status) way more appealing than being a twink or a buff daddy
no, physical features and good genetics is the real wealth, good looking men have something that cannot be earned or taken away, they are also treated better by all of society and better socialized and given more opportunities. your anecdotal experience doesent compete to actual hard data
1 year ago
Anonymous
just stop giving yourself excuses bro
1 year ago
Anonymous
cant tell if b8 or not, but Im not giving myself excuses, I know its over but still do the best I can in other fields. I just dont have what women want and will never, and have to accept that. So i became a NEET but also started working for cash and doing the bare minimum in life and realized I dont want to contribute to a society that treats males and 5th class citizens and has no interest in men
1 year ago
Anonymous
>I LOVE SCIENCE OMGGGG
Jesus have a nice day. You really think romance can be studied in a lab? Women are never honest about what they want.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>You really think romance can be studied in a lab?
yes it can
>Women are never honest about what they want.
they actually are but most men refuse to listen, women want a tall good looking non balding man who is a sociopath but not to her
1 year ago
Anonymous
>they actually are but most men refuse to listen, women want a tall good looking non balding man who is a sociopath but not to her
Dunno how most men end up marrying if women want the absolute top and only the top. You should stop coping and admit it's your attitude that doesn't get you bitches.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>marrying if women want the absolute top and only the top
because women settle once they reach an age where they can no longer get the top men they desire. unless you marry your daughter off at 16 which you should to a guy who is 20 who lives in the same town, women will just ride the cock carousel until the settle down with betabucks
>admit it's your attitude that doesn't get you bitches.
its not my attitude, its my genetics and my face and height, that limit me from getting women
1 year ago
Anonymous
Jesus Christ, this must be like the most generic incel post ever. Hits all the classic talking points. It's hard to believe you're a real person and not some shitty AI programmed by pajeets.
Newsflash homosexual: you could wake up as a 6 foot male model tomorrow and you'd still get exactly what you get today...nothing? And why?
Because you're an unlikeable social retard who spergs around women and probably everyone else. Now have sex, kys, etc.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>Because you're an unlikeable social retard who spergs around women and probably everyone else. Now have sex, kys, etc.
im sure thats what happened to richard ramierez, ted bundy and all the other killers who were un likeable serial killers?
>you could wake up as a 6 foot male model tomorrow and you'd still get exactly what you get today...nothing
absolutley wrong, getting a massive genetic upgrade would give me everything I need lel
Incels are right 90% of the time and incels will be proven right by history
1 year ago
Anonymous
Ted Bundy wasn't unlikable though. He was known for being extremely charming.
1 year ago
Anonymous
adam lanza, columbine killers, chriss watts, etc they were unlikeable mentally ill but still got women, because women want a guy who able to kill for her and kill her are turned on by them
>arguing with incel-shitters
These people KNOW incels are right, but they get off on the idea of an incel "respecting the wahamns", "befriending girls", "being likeable" etc, only to find out this will never give them sexual intimacy/romantic love from women.
So the incels get more bitter and resentful, and when they come to vent on the internet, these guys get off on gaslighting incels into thinking "it's their own fault".
I mean, sometimes it is. Incels with potential sometimes just slack off too much and hide behind a defeatist mindset. I'm 5'9 average face and I have a very active (hetero)sexual life, but being SwoleShack and looksmaxxing my average genetics has definitely being the most important factors for my non-inceldom. Not that "just be nice" and "bee yourself" crap.
1 year ago
Anonymous
It is their fault, and we also tell them to lift, looksmax, etc and what do we get instead? Incels literally brigading the fitness board, coming from their containment board LULZ as well as their own shithole incel forums, just to demoralize and tell well meaning beginners not to lift.
Fuck incels, they unironically embody some of the worst that humanity has to offer.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>It is their fault, and we also tell them to lift, looksmax
that can only go so far, usually it wont compensate for the two most important physical things, face and height. and is Sisyphean for most incels and a waste of time
>Fuck incels, they unironically embody some of the worst that humanity has to offer.
what are you even talking about, 99.9% of incels just realize its over and there really is no point in putting in the work because it wont get you anywhere, incels are so stigmatized its crazy that people fell for them being crazy and evil men
1 year ago
Anonymous
>incels are so stigmatized its crazy that people fell for them being crazy and evil men
Let's be clear here, no one hates incels because they think they're "crazy and evil men". They're hated...as they should be...for being whiny and pathetic men with terrible attitudes.
Sour grapes, bucket-crabbing, thinking like women, hypocracy, having higher standards for others than they do for themselves, making everything about them...you'll get all of this and more with incels.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>for being whiny and pathetic men with terrible attitudes
they have just cause for those attitudes, the state of 2022 makes them have those attitudes. Incels are right and it will only get worse and worse.
1 year ago
Anonymous
This is like blaming black slaves on 1700s for their own slavery.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Blacks unironically did sell other blacks into slavery, retard. You couldn't have picked a worse example.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>Blacks are a monolith, not individuals
Fuck off colectivist scum
1 year ago
Anonymous
>we also tell them to lift, looksmax, etc
Based, but
Jesus Christ, this must be like the most generic incel post ever. Hits all the classic talking points. It's hard to believe you're a real person and not some shitty AI programmed by pajeets.
Newsflash homosexual: you could wake up as a 6 foot male model tomorrow and you'd still get exactly what you get today...nothing? And why?
Because you're an unlikeable social retard who spergs around women and probably everyone else. Now have sex, kys, etc.
>I LOVE SCIENCE OMGGGG
Jesus have a nice day. You really think romance can be studied in a lab? Women are never honest about what they want.
et will psyop guys into "bee yourself" bullshit.
Also, for some really ugly/short guys it's actually over. For most non-Chad guys though, it's emulating Chad's shallow attributes (muscles, clothing, haircut, walking into the room like you own it) that saves the day.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Anon two of those posts were mine, the "based" one and also the first "pysop" one. It's all important, all of it. Yes, lift. Yes, be good looking. BUT ALSO, actually talk to women. Actually be a cool fun guy that they'd actually want to talk to. None of this should be rocket science, and all the cope and seethe comes from spergs and socially retarded fags who KNOW deep down that they're unlikable, or that they're scared of women, or that they're losers in general. That's why all the importance is placed on looks, because they need everything to be perfect to offset their shitty personalites. You shouldn't need "perfect" just to get by. Blaming height is even better (easier) because it can't be helped, so it absolves them of all blame. >Also, for some really ugly/short guys it's actually over.
Yeah probably. But this is a small minority though who can't be salvaged. Look at all the incel posts on this board alone. There's no way they're all coming from 5 foot guys with elephant-man tier looks, because guys like that are rare.
And speaking of elephants, another big one in the room I rarely see brought up is that a lot of these incels are really just seething browncels living in places they don't belong and seething over not getting hot white women. Example:
Like, just look at this fat nagger making a fool of himself. I'm not saying he's not FUNNY, don't get me wrong, but I'm not sure this is meant to be. How can anyone defend people like this or take them seriously?
1 year ago
Anonymous
hamudi is right
>actually talk to women. Actually be a cool fun guy that they'd actually want to talk to
lel just talk to women bro
Physical Attractiveness is the Strongest Predictor of Initial Romantic Interest in Both Sexes; No Evidence Male Personality Plays Any Role for Women (Luo & Zhang, 2009)
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19558447
1 year ago
Anonymous
Just ~~*trust the science*~~ bro! >From a study made by chinks. >Who were probably incels themselves. >Who analyzed *speed dating* of all things, so of course looks will mean more than personality because you literally have a minute or less to get to know everybody.
Why are all incels peak midwit?
1 year ago
Anonymous
you cant even refute the evidence, personality is from looks and looks are the thing that is initially in the main part of getting a relationship at the beggining, personality only matters when you first reach her looks threshold
>hamudi is right
He's a fat sandnagger, screaming at the top of his lungs in a public pool while families and children could be walking by about guys getting their cocks stroked just off camera, and crying about all the chads and stacies mogging him even though none are seen in the video.
you cant even refute the evidence, personality is from looks and looks are the thing that is initially in the main part of getting a relationship at the beggining, personality only matters when you first reach her looks threshold
>personality is from looks
The inverse also applies. If a girl actually likes you, she'll think of you as better looking than you actually probably are. You've never had a girl like you though so of course you'd be unaware of this. Pic very related. >personality only matters when you first reach her looks threshold
Yeah, and then it matters, as you just admitted.
Why should everyone have to curtail their advice to only be useful for the ugliest people imaginable? That's not you, believe it or not, and that's about the nicest thing I'll ever have to say to you.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>He's a fat sandnagger, screaming at the top of his lungs in a public pool while families and children could be walking by about guys getting their cocks stroked just off camera, and crying about all the chads and stacies mogging him even though none are seen in the video.
and despite that hamudi (pbuh) is right about incels and society
>Yeah, and then it matters, as you just admitted.
yes only if you have good looks first, no ammount of personality will save you if you are short and ugly
>Why should everyone have to curtail their advice to only be useful for the ugliest people imaginable?
they shouldent, ugly people and incels are right by giving up, becoming NEET, getting welfare and just cruising through life not trying. You type like a women or some liberal feminist
1 year ago
Anonymous
>ugly people and incels are right by giving up, becoming NEET, getting welfare and just cruising through life not trying
Ok great, do it in silence then. >You type like a women
Oh someone here does alright. Refer back to
https://i.imgur.com/bKOLv2G.jpg
>incels are so stigmatized its crazy that people fell for them being crazy and evil men
Let's be clear here, no one hates incels because they think they're "crazy and evil men". They're hated...as they should be...for being whiny and pathetic men with terrible attitudes.
Sour grapes, bucket-crabbing, thinking like women, hypocracy, having higher standards for others than they do for themselves, making everything about them...you'll get all of this and more with incels.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>Ok great, do it in silence then.
no i wont, I want to help other brocels realize how shit society is and how it treats ugly men like 5th class citizens and help them get on welfare and just leave society and let it rot.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Yeah great, but you have a whole board for that and it isn't this one.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>Yeah great, but you have a whole board for that and it isn't this one.
im not making offtopic threads and i am replying and you are free to ignore, seethe more
1 year ago
Anonymous
based harsh truth spreader, people on fit think they are redpilled but they are actually bluepilled and the real redpill is the blackpil
1 year ago
Anonymous
The way your face looks is highly affected by your personality/character. Physiognomy 101.
1 year ago
Anonymous
I think it’s more likely that if your good looking you get treated better and as a result you aren’t bitter and angry but go off I guess
1 year ago
Anonymous
no, its the other way around. Personality comes from your face, face is from genetics and good oral health. Better looking children are better socialized and incorporated into the social structure better because of the halo effect and peoples desire to be around people with good genetics
Early childhood trauma, can also develop from porn addiction especially now with tranny shit acting as a bridge. Historically it was either childhood trauma or occasionally royalty becoming degenerate
he's called chad for a reason anon, he would throw a spear through your chest before you got within a mile of him, he would smell your fear like sharks smell blood.
>He looks like his chin isnt even at the same level as his lower lip (incel profile)
WTF are you talking about. He is not recessed at all. He has god tier forward growth.
>his eyes
are literally perfect and and are framed by 11/10 cheekbones
his zygos are just fucking unreal
insane ratios, but biggest proof PSL isn't everything, he's got one of the highest male PSLs of all time, but a TON of foids would rather fuck a normal Chad with great but less impressive PSL over him
Honestly I can say that no, you cannot looksmaxx your way into being a Chad
I have a pretty gay routine and even then I can't avoid my hair looking shit, pimples appearing, my general skull shape, height, frame etc etc
You have to realise that creating a Chad takes absurd luck in reproduction and years of that happening, and even weird mixes of parents and it mostly only happens once
Yes and no, you can't outlift bone structure, but looksmaxxing goes a long way. Picrel shows a pic of me at the end of high school, then a pic of my current look and physique after slightly over a year of looksmaxxing, lifting, and getting effay.
Absolutely. I used to be a socially awkward homosexual with social anxiety so bad that I wouldn't even ever post anything on faceberg for fear of someone thinking it was stupid. I would stutter and sweat in the presence of any girl, and was incapable of contradicting or confronting anyone or even literally just voicing my own opinion on something.
Now I'm confident, pretty charismatic, attractive, stronger and a lot happier, it's a transformation I made since 2020.
You're already losing the main war: your mind. "Is it possible? Can I do this?" The Chad is already in you anon you just need to crush your poor self esteem
>grew up obese so total loser >lose all the weight in high school but still a hikki >recently told I have a chad face by multiple people >tested it on /soc/, got multiple 7s and 8s and a couple 9s >i'm almost in my mid 20s but never realized this >have a really big chest and calves too where I can build muscle >thinking of trying online dating for the hell of it
i guess ironically I don't want to be a chad though. 99% of what I want to do is play video games or shitpost or cruise around in my car blasting music.
Chad isn't just looks, it's also behavior. Chad gets bitches just by existing. It's subconscious and is fostered by years of positive feedback. There is no way to "become" a Chad once you're out of your teens.
he is a chad because of his superior facial genetics, even if he is a sodomite he mogs 99.9% of men. The one good thing fags have is they know self care and try to make themselves look good, straight men hit the wall at 25 after highschool or uni and will never get a a good skincare routine or care about their hair
nah bro the fucking 10/10 gigamogger is born with a chiseled jaw and hunter eyes it's all genetics keep on mouthbreathing and wearing glasses it wouldn't change shit 😛
even if you BECOME, women will not want you
women want men that ARE and HAVE ALWAYS BEEN not BECOMING
that's why, if asked if you go to the gym you answer NO
I've seen you post on /adv/. You look good man. I think your problem is being overly self aware and probably anxious.
You got the looks brother, you just gotta get into an "open for suffering" mindset and start daring more in order for your character and personality to back those looks up.
>he sees through me
aaaaAaaaaaahhhhh, I browse this website too much and post myself too often, I need fucking confidence but I dont know how to attain that, I recently hooked up with a cute girl but that hasn't even given me more confidence than before, theres an mma gym next to me, will getting my shit punched in make me more confident?
>will getting my shit punched in make me more confident?
Unironically yes. Our biggest obstacle, and what usually causes us anxiety/depression/low self esteem is our huge fucking egos. Getting your shit punched in will teach you humility and in turn lessen your ego.
You look still young so by your late 20s your face will get a more masculine shape and if you put the effort now to learn how to take a mental punch, it will help you immensely . Good luck man.
Look, if you're here on SwoleShack asking this question, it's not you. You can, through your effort, find a life worth living. You can't, however, be like my 6'4 blonde, blue eyes friend who got cat called out of a car while walking down the street. Your bone structure isn't there.
its objective but there is subjective factors that come into it, but I could take 10 guys of different ethnicities and you can tell if the are objectively beautiful or ugly
lose bodyfat, you may or may not be a chad underneath the McBlubber
>Chad looks, but gay
>mediocre looks, but straight
which way, SwoleShackizens?
Jordan Barret looks like a 10 to men and like a 8 to woman.
You're a delusional retard. He's a 10 to men and an 11 to women.
Not enough muscle to be extremely attractive to women. They’d choose a jacked guy with an 8/10 face over Barrett’s 9/10 face and twink body.
>Not enough muscle to be extremely attractive to women. They’d choose a jacked guy with an 8/10 face over Barrett’s 9/10 face and twink body
wrong, you only look at things through the male gaze. women really dont find big muscles attractive, they find youthful features more so. twink ottermode body, non balding and good face and height is way more important than big muscles
Women find character (social status) way more appealing than being a twink or a buff daddy. I'm 167cm or 5' 6" in burger and the only time I fucked on the first date was when I told some ONG homosexuals asking for moneyto fuck off (respectfully). After telling them off her smile on her face was so big I could tell she was mentally sucking me off.
I was not in good shape either. I was barely overweight (24,5 BMI) but still scored because I commanded respect. That's what women want, you can lift all you want but if you are still a pussy who can't say no women will be turned off INSTANTLY.
>Women find character (social status) way more appealing than being a twink or a buff daddy
no they dont and it is scientifically proven that face and physical features are the most important thing in initial romance. Face and height are the most important for women
Physical Attractiveness is the Strongest Predictor of Initial Romantic Interest in Both Sexes; No Evidence Male Personality Plays Any Role for Women (Luo & Zhang, 2009)
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19558447
A greater height difference in a couple was positively related to the wife's happiness
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S019188691530060X?via%3Dihub
"Life at the top: the benefits of height"
https://www.nber.org/papers/w15090
Facial attractiveness is more important than body because a face can't easily be changed
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/00224545.2011.586654
Bald men and men with thinning hair are perceived as less attractive
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/0162309595001301
A man's height determines his dating pool. Over 94% of women reject men for being "too short
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/pdf/10.1177/1474704916671522
>Women find character (social status) way more appealing than being a twink or a buff daddy
no, physical features and good genetics is the real wealth, good looking men have something that cannot be earned or taken away, they are also treated better by all of society and better socialized and given more opportunities. your anecdotal experience doesent compete to actual hard data
just stop giving yourself excuses bro
cant tell if b8 or not, but Im not giving myself excuses, I know its over but still do the best I can in other fields. I just dont have what women want and will never, and have to accept that. So i became a NEET but also started working for cash and doing the bare minimum in life and realized I dont want to contribute to a society that treats males and 5th class citizens and has no interest in men
>I LOVE SCIENCE OMGGGG
Jesus have a nice day. You really think romance can be studied in a lab? Women are never honest about what they want.
>You really think romance can be studied in a lab?
yes it can
>Women are never honest about what they want.
they actually are but most men refuse to listen, women want a tall good looking non balding man who is a sociopath but not to her
>they actually are but most men refuse to listen, women want a tall good looking non balding man who is a sociopath but not to her
Dunno how most men end up marrying if women want the absolute top and only the top. You should stop coping and admit it's your attitude that doesn't get you bitches.
>marrying if women want the absolute top and only the top
because women settle once they reach an age where they can no longer get the top men they desire. unless you marry your daughter off at 16 which you should to a guy who is 20 who lives in the same town, women will just ride the cock carousel until the settle down with betabucks
>admit it's your attitude that doesn't get you bitches.
its not my attitude, its my genetics and my face and height, that limit me from getting women
Jesus Christ, this must be like the most generic incel post ever. Hits all the classic talking points. It's hard to believe you're a real person and not some shitty AI programmed by pajeets.
Newsflash homosexual: you could wake up as a 6 foot male model tomorrow and you'd still get exactly what you get today...nothing? And why?
Because you're an unlikeable social retard who spergs around women and probably everyone else. Now have sex, kys, etc.
>Because you're an unlikeable social retard who spergs around women and probably everyone else. Now have sex, kys, etc.
im sure thats what happened to richard ramierez, ted bundy and all the other killers who were un likeable serial killers?
>you could wake up as a 6 foot male model tomorrow and you'd still get exactly what you get today...nothing
absolutley wrong, getting a massive genetic upgrade would give me everything I need lel
Incels are right 90% of the time and incels will be proven right by history
Ted Bundy wasn't unlikable though. He was known for being extremely charming.
adam lanza, columbine killers, chriss watts, etc they were unlikeable mentally ill but still got women, because women want a guy who able to kill for her and kill her are turned on by them
I doubt Adam Lanza got girls bro
https://www.businessinsider.com/student-suspended-over-adam-lanza-poem-2012-12
>arguing with incel-shitters
These people KNOW incels are right, but they get off on the idea of an incel "respecting the wahamns", "befriending girls", "being likeable" etc, only to find out this will never give them sexual intimacy/romantic love from women.
So the incels get more bitter and resentful, and when they come to vent on the internet, these guys get off on gaslighting incels into thinking "it's their own fault".
I mean, sometimes it is. Incels with potential sometimes just slack off too much and hide behind a defeatist mindset. I'm 5'9 average face and I have a very active (hetero)sexual life, but being SwoleShack and looksmaxxing my average genetics has definitely being the most important factors for my non-inceldom. Not that "just be nice" and "bee yourself" crap.
It is their fault, and we also tell them to lift, looksmax, etc and what do we get instead? Incels literally brigading the fitness board, coming from their containment board LULZ as well as their own shithole incel forums, just to demoralize and tell well meaning beginners not to lift.
Fuck incels, they unironically embody some of the worst that humanity has to offer.
>It is their fault, and we also tell them to lift, looksmax
that can only go so far, usually it wont compensate for the two most important physical things, face and height. and is Sisyphean for most incels and a waste of time
>Fuck incels, they unironically embody some of the worst that humanity has to offer.
what are you even talking about, 99.9% of incels just realize its over and there really is no point in putting in the work because it wont get you anywhere, incels are so stigmatized its crazy that people fell for them being crazy and evil men
>incels are so stigmatized its crazy that people fell for them being crazy and evil men
Let's be clear here, no one hates incels because they think they're "crazy and evil men". They're hated...as they should be...for being whiny and pathetic men with terrible attitudes.
Sour grapes, bucket-crabbing, thinking like women, hypocracy, having higher standards for others than they do for themselves, making everything about them...you'll get all of this and more with incels.
>for being whiny and pathetic men with terrible attitudes
they have just cause for those attitudes, the state of 2022 makes them have those attitudes. Incels are right and it will only get worse and worse.
This is like blaming black slaves on 1700s for their own slavery.
Blacks unironically did sell other blacks into slavery, retard. You couldn't have picked a worse example.
>Blacks are a monolith, not individuals
Fuck off colectivist scum
>we also tell them to lift, looksmax, etc
Based, but
et will psyop guys into "bee yourself" bullshit.
Also, for some really ugly/short guys it's actually over. For most non-Chad guys though, it's emulating Chad's shallow attributes (muscles, clothing, haircut, walking into the room like you own it) that saves the day.
Anon two of those posts were mine, the "based" one and also the first "pysop" one. It's all important, all of it. Yes, lift. Yes, be good looking. BUT ALSO, actually talk to women. Actually be a cool fun guy that they'd actually want to talk to. None of this should be rocket science, and all the cope and seethe comes from spergs and socially retarded fags who KNOW deep down that they're unlikable, or that they're scared of women, or that they're losers in general. That's why all the importance is placed on looks, because they need everything to be perfect to offset their shitty personalites. You shouldn't need "perfect" just to get by. Blaming height is even better (easier) because it can't be helped, so it absolves them of all blame.
>Also, for some really ugly/short guys it's actually over.
Yeah probably. But this is a small minority though who can't be salvaged. Look at all the incel posts on this board alone. There's no way they're all coming from 5 foot guys with elephant-man tier looks, because guys like that are rare.
And speaking of elephants, another big one in the room I rarely see brought up is that a lot of these incels are really just seething browncels living in places they don't belong and seething over not getting hot white women. Example:
Like, just look at this fat nagger making a fool of himself. I'm not saying he's not FUNNY, don't get me wrong, but I'm not sure this is meant to be. How can anyone defend people like this or take them seriously?
hamudi is right
>actually talk to women. Actually be a cool fun guy that they'd actually want to talk to
lel just talk to women bro
Physical Attractiveness is the Strongest Predictor of Initial Romantic Interest in Both Sexes; No Evidence Male Personality Plays Any Role for Women (Luo & Zhang, 2009)
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19558447
Just ~~*trust the science*~~ bro!
>From a study made by chinks.
>Who were probably incels themselves.
>Who analyzed *speed dating* of all things, so of course looks will mean more than personality because you literally have a minute or less to get to know everybody.
Why are all incels peak midwit?
you cant even refute the evidence, personality is from looks and looks are the thing that is initially in the main part of getting a relationship at the beggining, personality only matters when you first reach her looks threshold
>Science is shit bro
>My broscience though, that's solid
>Just bee yourself
>bro science bad!
Post body.
>hamudi is right
He's a fat sandnagger, screaming at the top of his lungs in a public pool while families and children could be walking by about guys getting their cocks stroked just off camera, and crying about all the chads and stacies mogging him even though none are seen in the video.
>personality is from looks
The inverse also applies. If a girl actually likes you, she'll think of you as better looking than you actually probably are. You've never had a girl like you though so of course you'd be unaware of this. Pic very related.
>personality only matters when you first reach her looks threshold
Yeah, and then it matters, as you just admitted.
Why should everyone have to curtail their advice to only be useful for the ugliest people imaginable? That's not you, believe it or not, and that's about the nicest thing I'll ever have to say to you.
>He's a fat sandnagger, screaming at the top of his lungs in a public pool while families and children could be walking by about guys getting their cocks stroked just off camera, and crying about all the chads and stacies mogging him even though none are seen in the video.
and despite that hamudi (pbuh) is right about incels and society
>Yeah, and then it matters, as you just admitted.
yes only if you have good looks first, no ammount of personality will save you if you are short and ugly
>Why should everyone have to curtail their advice to only be useful for the ugliest people imaginable?
they shouldent, ugly people and incels are right by giving up, becoming NEET, getting welfare and just cruising through life not trying. You type like a women or some liberal feminist
>ugly people and incels are right by giving up, becoming NEET, getting welfare and just cruising through life not trying
Ok great, do it in silence then.
>You type like a women
Oh someone here does alright. Refer back to
>Ok great, do it in silence then.
no i wont, I want to help other brocels realize how shit society is and how it treats ugly men like 5th class citizens and help them get on welfare and just leave society and let it rot.
Yeah great, but you have a whole board for that and it isn't this one.
>Yeah great, but you have a whole board for that and it isn't this one.
im not making offtopic threads and i am replying and you are free to ignore, seethe more
based harsh truth spreader, people on fit think they are redpilled but they are actually bluepilled and the real redpill is the blackpil
The way your face looks is highly affected by your personality/character. Physiognomy 101.
I think it’s more likely that if your good looking you get treated better and as a result you aren’t bitter and angry but go off I guess
no, its the other way around. Personality comes from your face, face is from genetics and good oral health. Better looking children are better socialized and incorporated into the social structure better because of the halo effect and peoples desire to be around people with good genetics
fact
other way around, he's 10 to women and 8 to men
10 to men, but 8 to women would be this caveman
I’d rather even be ugly but straight
I don’t understand gay men, the female body is amazing. How can you not want any part of that?
psyop
They got molested by a man or an older boy when they were kids.
>They got molested by a man or an older boy when they were kids
Early childhood trauma, can also develop from porn addiction especially now with tranny shit acting as a bridge. Historically it was either childhood trauma or occasionally royalty becoming degenerate
Mental illness and israeli propaganda
is it possible to become a woman or does it happen at birth?
Stop being a little homosexual and go slaughter Chad and his bloodline. If you cant beat chad just kill him.
he's called chad for a reason anon, he would throw a spear through your chest before you got within a mile of him, he would smell your fear like sharks smell blood.
surgerymaxxing, but it costs like 100k if you go to top tier surgeons
How is that a chad?
He looks like his chin isnt even at the same level as his lower lip (incel profile)
>He looks like his chin isnt even at the same level as his lower lip (incel profile)
WTF are you talking about. He is not recessed at all. He has god tier forward growth.
god tier gonial angle, perfect nasofrrontal angle and nasolabial angle, forward growth, deep set eyes. unreal face
this is like a hidden tongue for people who don't get laid
his eyes seem in weird position and are too small, otherwise it's a good face
>his eyes
are literally perfect and and are framed by 11/10 cheekbones
his zygos are just fucking unreal
his IPD is perfect and his canthal tilt and no upper eye lid exposure is top tier
like i said i am an incel and realize i cant get laid is because of my height, and face
well doesn't look so to me, if you go too much to an extreme you get worst results
he didnt get surgery its his natural face
he looks more normal in other photos
notice how the other guy has a completely different eye shape, interesting how usually partners have different eye shapes
insane ratios, but biggest proof PSL isn't everything, he's got one of the highest male PSLs of all time, but a TON of foids would rather fuck a normal Chad with great but less impressive PSL over him
It's possible to become a chad if you already had the bone structure/height and you were just fat
Honestly I can say that no, you cannot looksmaxx your way into being a Chad
I have a pretty gay routine and even then I can't avoid my hair looking shit, pimples appearing, my general skull shape, height, frame etc etc
You have to realise that creating a Chad takes absurd luck in reproduction and years of that happening, and even weird mixes of parents and it mostly only happens once
have the mindset and your psychical form will follow
>grow grow grow
Why would i want to become someone else when i can make my own identity?
Girardian memetic desire
Yes and no, you can't outlift bone structure, but looksmaxxing goes a long way. Picrel shows a pic of me at the end of high school, then a pic of my current look and physique after slightly over a year of looksmaxxing, lifting, and getting effay.
All titty, no cote lmao
What does cote mean?
My man, why would you post your face on this cesspool?
>Loose fitting wrinkly bowling shirt
>Fag haircut
>Face of an autistic 15 year old
Yikes
Ok, let's see what you look like then, anon.
post skincare routine
Ya look great anon, don't listen to the screechers.
Most of the improvement in the face seems to come from the initial bodyfat loss though (pic 2). So in the end, it's genes that trump all?
Absolutely. I used to be a socially awkward homosexual with social anxiety so bad that I wouldn't even ever post anything on faceberg for fear of someone thinking it was stupid. I would stutter and sweat in the presence of any girl, and was incapable of contradicting or confronting anyone or even literally just voicing my own opinion on something.
Now I'm confident, pretty charismatic, attractive, stronger and a lot happier, it's a transformation I made since 2020.
Similar to this. Good work btw man.
You're already losing the main war: your mind. "Is it possible? Can I do this?" The Chad is already in you anon you just need to crush your poor self esteem
you can only polish a turd. Being a Chad means you've won the genetic lottery.
Being a Chad just means you were sufficiently breastfed as an infant
You become a Chad at the birth of your first born child.
Everything else is a looksmaxxingtard cope
I feel like I have chad potential
>grew up obese so total loser
>lose all the weight in high school but still a hikki
>recently told I have a chad face by multiple people
>tested it on /soc/, got multiple 7s and 8s and a couple 9s
>i'm almost in my mid 20s but never realized this
>have a really big chest and calves too where I can build muscle
>thinking of trying online dating for the hell of it
i guess ironically I don't want to be a chad though. 99% of what I want to do is play video games or shitpost or cruise around in my car blasting music.
Chad isn't just looks, it's also behavior. Chad gets bitches just by existing. It's subconscious and is fostered by years of positive feedback. There is no way to "become" a Chad once you're out of your teens.
If I was tall my life would probably be great oh well
It’s all in your head. If you can rewire your brains into thinking that you are a chad than you can do this.
its based on facial structure, but you need to be SwoleShack to fully unlock your maximum face potential
>Says Chad
>Posts fag
Pretty sure that you were born this way
he is a chad because of his superior facial genetics, even if he is a sodomite he mogs 99.9% of men. The one good thing fags have is they know self care and try to make themselves look good, straight men hit the wall at 25 after highschool or uni and will never get a a good skincare routine or care about their hair
Fag
I wasnt raped as a kid so no I am straight, but getting a good skincare routine and taking care of you hair is something to take from them
nah bro the fucking 10/10 gigamogger is born with a chiseled jaw and hunter eyes it's all genetics keep on mouthbreathing and wearing glasses it wouldn't change shit 😛
jesus fucking christ that cantal tilt you look like you're melting
what the fuck happened, left looks good
was always like that, cant mew a fucking canthal tilt lad
Porn addiction probably. Also why he transmogrified into a twink.
every fat has a chad waiting to get free
Get me a coffee lad.
I was drinkin raw egg mixed with lemon as my mates dared me, moments before violently throwing up, good times
Happens BEFORE birth. Pre-natal exposure to testosterone influences child development, puberty and later life.
even if you BECOME, women will not want you
women want men that ARE and HAVE ALWAYS BEEN not BECOMING
that's why, if asked if you go to the gym you answer NO
I've seen you post on /adv/. You look good man. I think your problem is being overly self aware and probably anxious.
You got the looks brother, you just gotta get into an "open for suffering" mindset and start daring more in order for your character and personality to back those looks up.
>he sees through me
aaaaAaaaaaahhhhh, I browse this website too much and post myself too often, I need fucking confidence but I dont know how to attain that, I recently hooked up with a cute girl but that hasn't even given me more confidence than before, theres an mma gym next to me, will getting my shit punched in make me more confident?
>will getting my shit punched in make me more confident?
Unironically yes. Our biggest obstacle, and what usually causes us anxiety/depression/low self esteem is our huge fucking egos. Getting your shit punched in will teach you humility and in turn lessen your ego.
You look still young so by your late 20s your face will get a more masculine shape and if you put the effort now to learn how to take a mental punch, it will help you immensely . Good luck man.
right fuck it I'm signing up
Look, if you're here on SwoleShack asking this question, it's not you. You can, through your effort, find a life worth living. You can't, however, be like my 6'4 blonde, blue eyes friend who got cat called out of a car while walking down the street. Your bone structure isn't there.
I'm convinced the whole "lookism" sphere is just closet fags
attractiveness is both subjective and objective at the same time
its objective but there is subjective factors that come into it, but I could take 10 guys of different ethnicities and you can tell if the are objectively beautiful or ugly
>Is it possible to become a chad or does it happen at birth?
are you born in scandinavia or germany? If no there is no chance sorry.