I switched from barbell OHP to pic rel OHP and my shoulder strength shot through the roof. Why do people hate on kettlebells so much?
I switched from barbell OHP to pic rel OHP and my shoulder strength shot through the roof.
I switched from barbell OHP to pic rel OHP and my shoulder strength shot through the roof. Why do people hate on kettlebells so much?
The fitness industrial complex wants you to use gyms.
Are your shoulders bigger? Post body
Idk but KB C&P is based. Hits all three heads of the deltoid and is healthier for your shoulder than BB OHP since your arm isn't restricted by how you have to hold the bar.
That said you should do both if you can. BB for absolute pressing strength and KB for volume.
Absolute strength? What a load of shit. You always hear this about Barbells as though it's the only rout to strength. I don't know what you guys have against other forms of free weights.
Barbells are the most cost effective route to strength since you can load many plates easiest with them. Plate loaded kettlebells dont lend themselves well to athletic movements at higher weights while barbells still do (e.g. finding a plate loaded kettlebell that goes up to 48kg and isn't unweidly for doing cleans with is next to impossible, meanwhile regular olympic barbells can just be loaded up to 450kg without issue).
>no before and after pics
>5 kg
that is NOT a kettlebell
No one hates on kettlebells except Rippetoe because he doesn't sell them.
I do a few sets of swings with a 48kg bell 2-3 times a week (nothing to failure, 5 or so reps in the tank) and it added 50lbs to my deadlift without doing much deadlifting.
No reason to do them when calisthenics exist. Or just use weights if you're in the gym already
>calisthenics
>kettlebells
They don’t cover the same areas and complement rather well for you to be a retard and try to make people believe they have to pick one or the other.
Kettlebell clean, press, front squat, snatch, jerk are all god tier exercises.
Here are the reasons I no longer use kettlebells:
Too light for serious strength gain.
Too expensive to upgrade to heavier ones.
The only fitness trainer I trust for advice (Steve Maxwell) claims that ballistic movements like kettlebell swings are too dangerous for longterm health. I'm already old and don't need any new injuries. Thank you.
In general I really like kettlebells. The idea of having one heavy weight you work out with daily makes some sense to me. I prefer calisthenics though because you can do them forever without equipment and through old age. Nobody can take them from you. I've noticed as I get older that it's easy to lose or stop doing a routine if you get injured with equipment. Habit is more important that what kind of tools are lying around.
>The only fitness trainer I trust for advice (Steve Maxwell)
yikes
>Too light for serious strength gain.
This is a retarded take. How strong would you be if you could clean and press 2 48kg kettlebells 10x
>The only fitness trainer I trust for advice (Steve Maxwell) claims that ballistic movements like kettlebell swings are too dangerous for longterm health
You made this claim in the kettlebell thread, refused to elaborate and fucked off after being called on it.
That dude literally praises kettlebells since you can fit them easily into any routine and are handy to move with you and train with almost anywhere.
gay
For some people switching this late in the game is akin to admitting that they were retarded for the entire first half of their life. So instead of being humble they ride with their bad choices and pretend that the clear solution is a meme.
You can do similar things with a pair of freeweights or an adjustable set as well
The lifts I do with this thing are the same lifts I do with freeweights, but I only work one arm at a time, otherwise it is not heavy enough.
Just like bodyweight exercise, you can modify your exercises to make them more difficult
This allows you to make further gains with the same amount of weight.
I used to train with loose barbells and once even trained with a 50 lb box of clay which was awkward but I couldn't afford any gear
No excuses
Yeah 5kg is vey light but it's a good place to start at least
People used to do kettlebell stuff with dumbbells.
I haven’t been feeling much shoulder work with clean and presses. Do 75 each arm with a 35lbs bell every day. Going to a 50lbs one soon but honestly these just feel like cardio
35x75 IS cardio.
55lbs x 10 Arnold press is my sweet spot.
Yeah I just tried them with 50s, much more challenge. Are you supposed to alternate arms each rep or?
I've noticed lots of strength gains and added rotator cuff stability from doing kettlebell presses, while holding the kb upside down.