Would LOVE to have a workspace large enough to process an entire fucking cow but there’s no way that’s happening in my condo. Homestead one day, and I might start with lamb.
Is this even saving money compared to paying more for beef as you use it, and keeping the $2400 invested?
I guess members of /r/steak must be eating steak every night already.
Dumbass, what better investment is there than food? You don't have to eat the whole cow in a week, you can freeze it and thaw out a cut here and there over the course of a year or more.
>what better investment is food?
How about the SP500? 11% gains annually.
Buying meat doesn't make interest, it's a 1-1 exchange. (Unless I guess you're going to try and sell beef later, when the price goes up)
Any financial instrument that increases in value more than the price of beef inflates over the same period - also assuming you buy beef constantly - is a better investment. >over the course of a year or more
That's what I'm saying.
You're out $2400 right now buying this much beef - you only get your value "back" when you finally eat the last ounce.
The longer it takes you to eat it all, the larger the losses in potential compound interest.
600 lbs of beef is likely multiple years btw.
If the price of the beef is half off retail price (very likely), and you expect to eat it completely in 3 years, and you expect that you otherwise would have bought the beef at $4800 otherwise, your alternative investment would have to make 100% over three years, or 23% per year for continuous exponential growth.
Hmm
Looks like the average price of beef products is $7.60/lb, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics (steaks being the outlier at $10.771/lb)
So you'd save a couple hundred ($3672 vs $3333) buying the beef.
But that's assuming a purely even spread of beef products, e.g. steaks making up a full quarter of the weight of the beef on hand... Here a full 45% of the cow is only ground beef products, which are much cheaper at around $5.60/lb
Then again, the "investment" option assumes you abstain from buying beef for the entire period. If you're dipping into that $2400 investment constantly to buy beef, especially at normal market prices, you're not going to make it to $3333. So iunno, you're probably right.
>time value of money
True in principle but shuffling grocery money out of a stock acct would create a lot of taxable events and I doubt you’d have that $2400 invested long enough to benefit from the mkt avg. You’d be effectively timing the market each time you withdraw money again for groceries. Financial engineering doesn’t work well in such small quantities
In such small quantities there wouldn't be anything to trigger any amount of taxes. The reality is that if you eat a lot of beef, it's cheaper to buy in bulk 99% of the time.
You know you have to eat every day, right anon? Multiple times a day, even. And that you need to spend money in order to get this food that you eat multiple times a day? And this is an unchanging and guaranteed fact of life unless you grow your own food in your backyard or barter for it with other items?
If you eat a lot of beef, it's absolutely worth it. I'd say it's better to go in with some friends though, a lot cheaper and won't sit in the freezer for years.
The ground beef alone would be at least $1,250 even at Walmart.
I don't like ground beef but I like steaks and beef stew. What part of the cow makes ground beef? Could you just cut it up and have more stew meat instead of making it into ground beef? Or even just a tough steak?
Typically it's whatever is unsuitable to sell at a higher price so shoulders, ground sirloin and etc is pretty self explanatory. Drumpf used to order burgers made from filet mignon minced up. Ideally for me at least you want lean but nowhere near as lean as that.
The best imo is to do 1:1 with some high quality ground pork, some breadcrumbs (from actual bread don't use crackers or oats) and make the most God tier meatloaf you ever had. Or meatballs for pasta, I use like 3 different kinds of noodles, usually all organic and fresh herbs as well and other such meme ingredients to make the best post workout sloppa ever.
You can ask for all your ground to be left as roasts, or sliced into stew meat. Might cost you a little extra because you’re asking them to deviate from their established procedure, and you’ll miss out on the small bits of meat between the long ribs, etc, but it’s maybe 10 lbs of loss over a cow sized animal.
You are not getting that much meat from a deer genius. Also if you try to process a deer with no experience and no help, it will take you all day and there is a good chance you will end up in the hospital.
From a Swedish perspective, definitely better than you'll get beef for in a store, but not crazy. My main meat is chicken and I get that frozen at $1.14/lb.
Because first world to first world is sometimes comparable. Even more so because wages tend to be comparable.
But even more so because sometimes shit gets very wacky when comparing UK to Scandinavia, or cheap US electricity states vs expensive US electricity states
>factoring in buying electricity
lmaoing at europoors
It wasn't that bad until Germany decided to treat the rest of EU as leubensrom for farming electricity.
Would be based if it had actually met their energy demands (they ended up apending 750bn USD on buying energy for a warm winter as a result of """sustainable""" energy and MUH UKRAINE)
And UK residents use little Chinese heat exchangers running on diesel because of how retarded their gov is, problem is its not unique, they are doing the same with US
glöm inte bort all extra kostnad i skatt som är mycket högre än usa, lägre lön (i Sverige) och att du köper den billigaste tristaste fågeln i hönshuset medans snubben fick prima kött
For anyone curious about this; in the end if you price it out per lb of what you get, you pay more than you would at the grocery store for the ground beef, but you save a tonne on the steaks. So if you plan on buying a cow mostly for just the ground beef, you're still better off just buying it at the grocery store.
He’s paying 4 bucks a pound where more than half the cow is nicer than straight up grounded. how the fuck is grocery meat cheaper? Grass fed is 7 a pound
About $36/year. Chest freezers are incredibly cheap to operate compared to literally any other kind of refrigeration equipment because the cold air doesn’t fall out of them when you open it. They barely need lids.
All the better to now provide for friends and family. >Split it with a buddy to feed two families >Host BBQs and dinner parties >Have a friend that could use some financial aid? Give em 50lbs of meat
What am I missing? Seems like you would get a lot of meat with $2400 if you just bought it from the store as well. Does he have couple extra freezers stocked up also or is that really it?
Retards finding out buying things in bulk is cheaper.
What are you talking about? I'm literally finding the opposite my comment was exactly pointing out that you would get MORE if you DIDNT buy in bulk. Just go to the store and you would get a fucking shit ton of more meat for that price. Fucking retard
16 filets, 12 t-bones, 12 sirloins, 8 porterhouses, etc. There's nowhere you're getting that stuff for $5/pound. If you just wanted ground beef then you might get it cheaper, but that's not the point of buying a whole cow.
What is the difference between chuck and ground beef?
I don't know enough english.
1 month ago
Anonymous
chuck is a cheaper cut of steak whereas ground beef is random shitty leftover bits and rat shit that the grocery had lying around put through a meat grinder and sold as hamburger or taco meat
1 month ago
Anonymous
>random shitty leftover bits and rat shit that the grocery had lying around put through a meat grinder and sold as hamburger or taco meat
Are you the homosexual from earlier who said stew meat was gross? Imagine calling the perfect combination of muscle meat, connective tissue and beef fat "rat shit." God, what a homosexual.
1 month ago
Anonymous
No. If you buy ground beef from a grocery store you are a certified retard. It's extremely easy to buy whatever meat you want and grind it yourself.
1 month ago
Anonymous
I don't want to grind meat, you stupid homosexual. I don't need a machine to pre-chew my meat for me because I'm not a jawless subhuman like you. I specifically buy ground beef BECAUSE it includes more than just muscle, like joints and ligaments and collagen and connective tissue. I value these because I exercise and I think eating all parts of a cow is important, too.
Being squeamish about meat that isn't the fucking filet mignon or strip steak and calling any part of the based cow "rat shit" is such an embarrassing trait for a grown man to have. I bet you eat protein bars with rainbow sprinkles, fucking idiot.
1 month ago
Anonymous
No idiot they put literal rat shit and fillers in the grocery ground meat. You can easily buy cartilage and grind it up yourself, homosexual.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>No idiot they put literal rat shit and fillers in the grocery ground meat.
[citation required]
1 month ago
Anonymous
1 month ago
Anonymous
>~~*Eric Schlosser*~~ >Don't eat meat, eat bugs!
1 month ago
Anonymous
>raw meat can give you food poisoning
Did you seriously need a news article to tell you this? lmao
By the way, your "source" doesn't show that there was any "rat shit" in beef. Or any fecal matter at all, actually. Consumer Reports found 0 poop in that beef. E. coli infects the gut but isn't only spread by direct fecal contamination (see below). Also it doesn't mention anything about fillers.
https://blog.meatinstitute.org/2015/08/no-consumer-reports-did-not-find-poop-in-ground-beef/
1 month ago
Anonymous
https://i.imgur.com/qqxErRa.png
Holy shit, you're retarded.
1 month ago
Anonymous
this. i'd chew on cows asshole if it gave me the micros and macros i need nvm the taste. cows are the most based of creatures
1 month ago
Anonymous
Ground chuck is a specific muscle (chuck steak) whereas ground beef can be any muscle or joint or connective tissue.
1 month ago
Anonymous
chuck is a cheaper cut of steak whereas ground beef is random shitty leftover bits and rat shit that the grocery had lying around put through a meat grinder and sold as hamburger or taco meat
I see. Over here i know what meat was ground down when i go to the butcher, or i demand that he grinds what i want.
>If you just wanted ground beef then you might get it cheaper
a VERY cheap ground beef is $4 a pound, which is pretty much what he paid, and he got grass fed. grass fed is $7
If you're buying a cow you wanna buy a female or a steer, so a male that was castrated when it was young, obviously you're not gonna get the testes with it.
The short version is it isn't a good deal because it being a good deal is contingent on a bunch of conditions that are extremely precise to the guy in that reddit post. For 99% of people, you're better off taking the $2,400 and doing something else.
Depends what cuts he got, and what type of beef it is, like a Herford, Holstein, Angus or whatever . When you take a cow to the butcher you can ask them to give your mostly steaks, mostly ground beef, or whatever. There's a lot of steaks they'll turn into ground beef if you don't tell them, same with roasts. Having none of that info though I'd say it was a good deal.
>$5/lb >Months of meat >2hr drive each way to pick it up >Loading/unloading 600lbs of meat >storing 600lbs of meat >only save $5/lb
If you factor in time and effort spend, I don't think it's a good deal. Guy probably spent a few hours loading and unloading it all. 4 hours of driving, and the hours it will take to defrost each piece when he wants to cook it. Depending on how much he makes an hour, but I would say it's probably not worth the inconvenience. In the end you're only saving a few dollars a pound, so it would probably be easier and more convenient to just buy meat in smaller quantities from a wholesale store. Quality might not be as good, but I think the convenience is worth it.
>Depending on how much he makes an hour,
People always say this but nobody is working 168 hours a week. Counting your free time in hours as if every hour not working is a loss is a stupid comparison. It's not like he made the choice between working 4 hours and driving those 4 hours, he did this in his weekend. More likely he gave up some hours of watching TV to drive there
A persons value of time is not equal to their labor while working. It is just deciding what to do with it. You can make an argument for the cost of gas used but otherwise your point makes no sense.
This illogic is what drives so many people to pay money for convenience. Better have somebody grocery shop for me or door dash my food because if I save 20 minutes I’m actually breaking even with delivery cost! >proceeds to use all that ‘saved’ effort to watch TV.
Have some pride in your life and actually interact with the world and you won’t be such an isolationist depressed mess.
It's not really that impressive. You've probably eaten several cows already. It's somewhere around 2000kcal/kg of final weight so even if you got 300kg after butchering that's still only about 2/3rds of a year worth of calories assuming 2500kcal/day.
[...]
The faster it freezes the less crystallization you'll have. Your freezer has a freezing capacity (probably in the 10-20kg/day range). If you have a lot of meat you should freeze it in batches. Use multiple freezers if you have them and use your fridge to pre-chill the meat. Other than that, make sure there's good opportunity for airflow around what you're freezing. Your freezer works on natural convection and if the air can't move efficiently then your meat freezes slower.
And I forgot to add: vacuum-packing your meat prior to freezing will make for far better heat transfer. It doesn't have to be some fancy machine, just suck the air out of the bag you put the meat in before closing it. If you can alter the shape of the meat (eg. ground meat) then maximize the surface area and minimize the width in one dimension so the meat itself doesn't have to conduct the heat as far to get frozen. For example: pack your ground beef in flat bags and sit/hang them upright in the freezer with room between them for air to flow.
If you really wanted to, you could put a 12v computer fan inside the freezer, and hotwire it to a USB charger connector.
At best it won't do much and at worst it will cause it to effectively turn off. It depends entirely on the regulator used. In a chest freezer the evaporator goes up the inside wall(s) so when the hot air rises to the top, the top of the evaporator cools it and it falls back down to the bottom, causing a lot of natural convection where the hot air is pretty consistently at the top. These things are extremely thermally efficient already and making it better is legitimately difficult.
WTF retard
The goal isn't to make the freezer "more effective". The only way to do that is by adding more insulation.
The goal of a 12v fan is to increase circulation. Not that you need it for vacuum packed meat.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>The goal isn't to make the freezer "more effective". >The goal of a 12v fan is to increase circulation
Never mind that I said "efficient," not "effective." For what fucking purpose are you adding the fan then? Are you trying to make a stable temperature chamber? If so then by all means put a fan in there to keep the entire chamber at a consistent temp. We're talking about freezing meat as fast as possible. Not keeping it at a perfectly consistent -17.77893°C.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>For what fucking purpose are you adding the fan then?
Which is colder anon?
Naturally convicting air at very low pressure, or fanned air at high pressure? >stable temperature chamber
Its a freezer not a fridge you dumb fuck.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Natural convection is FAR colder at the coldest point in the chamber, which will be at the bottom. What does that have to do with anything?
1 month ago
Anonymous
You are welcome to your opinion anon. But you are sadly wrong, and can't argue your fucking way out of a shoe box if prompted.
But tell me why minisplits have fans over their radiators on both ends.
I'l wait.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Okay inside your freezer is a regulator tuned to that specific freezer's geometry and for specific characteristics. Imagine it's a little man called Reg Ulator inside the walls of your freezer. He has a thermometer that he looks at and he uses that information to turn the compressor on and off. Now the thermometer is placed somewhere inside the freezer wall and so it doesn't actually reflect the temperature everywhere within the cold chamber, so he's been told that since the thermometer is placed up high he should actually shut the compressor off a few minutes before it reads proper freezer cold or the he will end up cooling it too much before the temperature gradient equalizes.
Here comes Dingus McDYEL and installs a fan into the freezer without replacing or re-tuning the regulator. Dingus McDYEL has now made it so the regulator, which was tuned to shut off at a reading of -15°C because that means the bottom would be at -25°C and the average over time would be about -19°C which falls to -18°C from environmental losses well before the compressor has to turn on again, now shuts off when the entire god damn freezer compartment is at -15°C. But don't worry you gloriously retarded homosexual because that's the best case scenario. It can get much worse than that: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PTjPzw9VhY
1 month ago
Anonymous
Wrong.
You can pump more, but you are limited to the thermal flow. Pumping more just results in not transferring heat via the compressor If the thermostat is jury rigged for the max thermal flow, then a fan will only accelerate ambient transfer.
The key difference is that a chest freezer has more thermal mass, and lack many of the limitation a fridge has.
Your goal in freezing meat isn't to speedrun it to -20C, its to get it across freezing as fast as possible. Which is why
It's not really that impressive. You've probably eaten several cows already. It's somewhere around 2000kcal/kg of final weight so even if you got 300kg after butchering that's still only about 2/3rds of a year worth of calories assuming 2500kcal/day.
[...]
The faster it freezes the less crystallization you'll have. Your freezer has a freezing capacity (probably in the 10-20kg/day range). If you have a lot of meat you should freeze it in batches. Use multiple freezers if you have them and use your fridge to pre-chill the meat. Other than that, make sure there's good opportunity for airflow around what you're freezing. Your freezer works on natural convection and if the air can't move efficiently then your meat freezes slower.
is always going to be right:
Batches is the correct way to do it IF you know your freezers limited temperature capacity AND its limited heat transfer. But you still want a fan alongside that, to speed up freezing(not to cheat the thermostat)
1 month ago
Anonymous
If you are not replacing the regulator or re-tuning the existing one you are going to reduce the duty cycle of the compressor, because they're all basic P-regulators with varying degrees of huge amounts of hysteresis. You will reduce the amount of heat removed from the system. Feel free to screw yourself over. I will stick to engineering. >If the thermostat is jury rigged for the max thermal flow
It's not. Commit Canadian healthcare.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>It's not.
It is.
That is the point of the video.
By changing the values you feed to the thermostat the compressor pumps MORE than the radiators can give off, thereby decreasing effectivity.
Its a fucking fridge with low thermal mass, and passive radiators inside of plastic. There is a reason why commercial units runs fin radiators with direct air passthrough via fans, because it allows you to adjust how much heat is transferred via adjusting the pumping, and allows you to use even more juice to get more cooling after somebody has opened the door for tooo long.
And again:
Its not a fucking box freezer where your only goal is to breach freezing
1 month ago
Anonymous
Well, I tried. I hope yours is the only freezer you ruin.
1 month ago
Anonymous
https://i.imgur.com/GA28E3G.png
If you are not replacing the regulator or re-tuning the existing one you are going to reduce the duty cycle of the compressor, because they're all basic P-regulators with varying degrees of huge amounts of hysteresis. You will reduce the amount of heat removed from the system. Feel free to screw yourself over. I will stick to engineering. >If the thermostat is jury rigged for the max thermal flow
It's not. Commit Canadian healthcare.
Wrong.
You can pump more, but you are limited to the thermal flow. Pumping more just results in not transferring heat via the compressor If the thermostat is jury rigged for the max thermal flow, then a fan will only accelerate ambient transfer.
The key difference is that a chest freezer has more thermal mass, and lack many of the limitation a fridge has.
Your goal in freezing meat isn't to speedrun it to -20C, its to get it across freezing as fast as possible. Which is why [...] is always going to be right:
Batches is the correct way to do it IF you know your freezers limited temperature capacity AND its limited heat transfer. But you still want a fan alongside that, to speed up freezing(not to cheat the thermostat)
Okay inside your freezer is a regulator tuned to that specific freezer's geometry and for specific characteristics. Imagine it's a little man called Reg Ulator inside the walls of your freezer. He has a thermometer that he looks at and he uses that information to turn the compressor on and off. Now the thermometer is placed somewhere inside the freezer wall and so it doesn't actually reflect the temperature everywhere within the cold chamber, so he's been told that since the thermometer is placed up high he should actually shut the compressor off a few minutes before it reads proper freezer cold or the he will end up cooling it too much before the temperature gradient equalizes.
Here comes Dingus McDYEL and installs a fan into the freezer without replacing or re-tuning the regulator. Dingus McDYEL has now made it so the regulator, which was tuned to shut off at a reading of -15°C because that means the bottom would be at -25°C and the average over time would be about -19°C which falls to -18°C from environmental losses well before the compressor has to turn on again, now shuts off when the entire god damn freezer compartment is at -15°C. But don't worry you gloriously retarded homosexual because that's the best case scenario. It can get much worse than that: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PTjPzw9VhY
How do people who seem to know so much about freezers have such different opinions about them, while calling each other mean names. Be nicer to each other youre both smart
>Guy probably spent a few hours loading and unloading it all. 4 hours of driving,
You think if he didn't buy in bulk he wouldn't have to haul it back home? And that's ignoring that he most likely saves time by moving it all in a few trips. >and the hours it will take to defrost each piece when he wants to cook it
What the actual fuck?
Defrosting isn't an active process. You can just pull something out the day before and put it in your fridge.
It defrost on it's own.
The farmers probably helped them load, but even then unloading 600lbs is nothing. Restaurant workers do this shit all the time when their suppliers drop off ingredients and equipment. Fuck off you noodle armed homosexual.
What am I missing? Seems like you would get a lot of meat with $2400 if you just bought it from the store as well. Does he have couple extra freezers stocked up also or is that really it?
Ground beef yeah, not everything. Also if you are talking fancy grass fed with low fat unless on good sale or about to go bad you can't even get ground beef that cheap. >source: i usually eat a pound of ground beef per day
>Plus you're getting the entire cow, which isn't all great in terms of meat quality. >???
lmfao
The amount of people exposing themselves for a) never buying their own groceries; and b) not knowing how to cook -- is staggering. Stew meat is great, just make a stew out of it ffs.
Thin minute steaks are great for when you come back from the gym late at night and want some protein cooked in 2 minutes or want to make a nice steak sandwich that is tender even if you overcook it. Roasts are delicious but take time, they are great for lazy afternoons and inviting friends over for a feast.
Annual operating cost for a chest freezer of 14 cubic feet only runs around 300kwH per year.
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/insignia-14-0-cu-ft-garage-ready-chest-freezer-white/6444379.p?skuId=6444379
So that's £7.12 per kilo, plus the cost of a giant freezer and the electricity to run it for a year.
The freezer will run much more efficient when it's full, because opening the door does not flush out 50% of the cold volume since all the cold meat stays inside
i don’t know about the brit but here in France I buy electricity for about 90€/Mwh, which is about half the average US prices (170$/MWh).
God gave us the atom to heat our homes and fry the asiatics. If your country’s gris isn’t exploiting the atom to its fullest capabilities (so 80%+ nuclear), your country is run by retards.
Enjoy it while you can you guys haven't built a new nuclear reactor in decades and some of the ones you have are starting to show their age as shown by the issues you guys had last winter. And yes I know recently you decided to finally build some new ones but thats going to take 10-15 years so the next decade could get rough especially if Russian oil and gas never comes back on the market.
Electricity in my region is mostly hydroelectric, it was deemed more viable than nuclear after they went through the trouble of building the power plant of course. Also cheaper than $80/MWh due to having AmeriGOD geothermal HVAC.
In Sweden you need to earn 6 figures to afford heating your home because of the Ukraine drama and Sweden selling excess electricity due to EU regulations which then means we need to buy expensive electricity from our neighbours. EUs can meme about Americans all they want but the entire continent is going the way of the Middle East both in looks and practice because it might look nice over here but most peoples quality of life sucks. People live in apartments literally their entire lives
The entire temperature of the freezer would have to hit 40ºF+ to spoil the meat, which would take a few days. Do you live somewhere where the power goes out for 3+ days frequently?
So many fucking retards itt spouting their dogshit, retarded opinions >BUT WHAT ABOUT THE POWER COSTS OF THE FREEZER >BUT WHAT IF THE POWER GOES OUT FOR 3+ DAYS >Heh, you can totally buy steaks at less than $5 a pound where I live >Only 1/4 of those cuts of beef are "good" (?????????????????????)
>Only 1/4 of those cuts of beef are "good"
Yeah, who the fuck wants to eat 20 pounds of ground chuck, 4 bottom round roasts, 24 fucking Delmonicos, 10 chucks, 12 tbones (only good for the tenderloin), 4 eye rounds, 4 more chuck roasts, 8 back ribs, 20 pounds of fucking stew meat (EW), 20 soup bones? some mishmash organs, 10 packs of minute steaks, way too many short ribs that anybody wants to actually eat. The ground beef, tenderloins, and flanks or strips are good. That's what everyone wants. I'd rather pay 500 dollars for shit I want than 2400 for shit I think I want.
>who the fuck wants to eat 20 pounds of ground chuck, 4 bottom round roasts, 24 fucking Delmonicos, 10 chucks, 12 tbones (only good for the tenderloin), 4 eye rounds, 4 more chuck roasts, 8 back ribs, 20 pounds of fucking stew meat (EW), 20 soup bones? some mishmash organs, 10 packs of minute steaks, way too many short ribs that anybody wants to actually eat.
Me.
Bottom feeder, bet you like cod as well.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>cod
???
1 month ago
Anonymous
You know like Cod fish?
1 month ago
Anonymous
Yeah, I think most people who eat fish like it. What a weird thing to hate. It'd be like saying bacon is bottom feeder food
1 month ago
Anonymous
What does cod fish have to do with cows?
It's a shitty, bottom-feeder fish comparative to something like Halibut.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Cod aren't bottom feeders, they hunt.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>gatekeeping food
1 month ago
Anonymous
>It's a shitty, bottom-feeder fish
What does that have to do with cows?
1 month ago
Anonymous
Halibut is a literal bottom feeder flat fish unlike Cod. Jesus you're a dullard.
1 month ago
Anonymous
What does cod fish have to do with cows?
1 month ago
Anonymous
post physique you fucking manlet zoomer twig
1 month ago
Anonymous
have a nice day Bronze Age Pervert Golden Shower Queer! We say "post body" on SwoleShack! "Post physique" is what gay asshomosexuals like Golden One say to signal they love a literally gay israeli e-celeb
>who the fuck wants to eat 20 pounds of ground chuck, 4 bottom round roasts, 24 fucking Delmonicos, 10 chucks, 12 tbones (only good for the tenderloin), 4 eye rounds, 4 more chuck roasts, 8 back ribs, 20 pounds of fucking stew meat (EW), 20 soup bones? some mishmash organs, 10 packs of minute steaks, way too many short ribs that anybody wants to actually eat.
Me.
It's not really that impressive. You've probably eaten several cows already. It's somewhere around 2000kcal/kg of final weight so even if you got 300kg after butchering that's still only about 2/3rds of a year worth of calories assuming 2500kcal/day.
Is there a good way to freeze and defrost meat without a noticable loss in quality?
The faster it freezes the less crystallization you'll have. Your freezer has a freezing capacity (probably in the 10-20kg/day range). If you have a lot of meat you should freeze it in batches. Use multiple freezers if you have them and use your fridge to pre-chill the meat. Other than that, make sure there's good opportunity for airflow around what you're freezing. Your freezer works on natural convection and if the air can't move efficiently then your meat freezes slower.
And I forgot to add: vacuum-packing your meat prior to freezing will make for far better heat transfer. It doesn't have to be some fancy machine, just suck the air out of the bag you put the meat in before closing it. If you can alter the shape of the meat (eg. ground meat) then maximize the surface area and minimize the width in one dimension so the meat itself doesn't have to conduct the heat as far to get frozen. For example: pack your ground beef in flat bags and sit/hang them upright in the freezer with room between them for air to flow.
>Yeah, who the fuck wants to eat 20 pounds of ground chuck, 4 bottom round roasts, 24 fucking Delmonicos, 10 chucks, 12 tbones (only good for the tenderloin), 4 eye rounds, 4 more chuck roasts, 8 back ribs, 20 pounds of fucking stew meat (EW), 20 soup bones? some mishmash organs, 10 packs of minute steaks, way too many short ribs that anybody wants to actually eat.
Yea if you just drive 30 mins out into the country from a major metro city (I'm in the midwest) you'll start seeing signs for purchasing bison mean, beef, eggs, etc. I'm certain it's much better than whole foods
This thread is really exposing unbelievable levels of retardation and cope >no one even wants most of these cuts >I don’t understand how it’s cheaper. It can’t be! >what about the power
Cow and chest freezer gang still undefeated.
That is not a whole cow, you get a lot more than that for a whole cow. That doesn't even look like a half cow. I'm still working through a half cow I bought 2 years ago.
Making the European middle class so poor they can't afford to cool/heat their homes and drive a personal automobile is all part of ze plan. >not doing these things is Green anyway goy >so is eating meat >so is having children
I know it won't help you unemployed loaners, but if you have friends or co-workers, you can split this. I went in on a whole grass fed hog with 2 other co-workers.
I do the same thing as this guy and it's goated as fuck. Buy direct from a farm and get a quarter of a cow, last year I also bought a quarter of a lamb. It lasts you a ridiculously long time and the price is so much better. Also the ground beef tastes better than anything, I actually had no idea the difference was so real. When I'm bulking I'd dethaw a lb of ground beef and make myself two double cheeseburgers with it and just roll in ecstacy over how good it tasted.
I've done something like this before, only with a pig. I split it with my sister and brother in law. Apart from being great value, I swear to god the meat from that pig tasted better than any cut of pork I've ever purchased from a store. Definitely a good idea if you have the space for it, and a good connection.
My sister works at a farmers market, so she knew the farmer we bought it from.
>freezer full of quality local beef >hundreds of lbs to feed the family for the year (at least) >go to the farmers market on weekends to get vegetables/fruits/sides >avoid fucked up factory food and grocery store zoo experiences
Life could be so comfy
I buy calves and slaughter and butcher them in bath tub. >nooo but my health laws and city ordinances
Mushallah infidel kuffir I will blow ypu up if you try to stop me
My friend growing up somehow unplugged the meat freezer in his basement while rollerblading lol. Nobody even realized until there was an overwhelming smell. They never got the stink out the house. It probably still smells and that was like thirty years ago.
This is fairly standard. A lot of private customers bought whole produce when I was working at a combined slaughterhouse & processing factory. A lot of Muslims buying lamb and requiring gay procedures for semantics sake, such as swapping gloves when handling them and letting them cool separately from non-halal lambs (which were fucking identical they had both been killed off 5 minutes ago).
This is literally fascism and the studies show that. Importing cartel owned avocado and spirulina capsules along with a daily athletic greens powder made by a sweet little Cambodian sweat shop worker is not only better for the environment and your health but morally superior. You've been warned.
While I'm sure it's fun to use your freezer as target practice, you really should replace it if it's so full of holes that it can't keep cool on its own for about a day without power.
Thankfully this is a thread about the US; that isn't something you need to worry about here. We don't have power outages for 3+ days unlike whatever shitty country you're from.
https://i.imgur.com/t5hOxLf.jpg
>Chest freezer >Giving any fucks unless its 1 week+
The longest power outage I ever experienced in my life was the year I lived in the US and we had to go without power for a little over 2 weeks after a storm. Though I do find it hilarious that New York devolved into pure anarchy when the power went out for a couple of hours.
there are very few places in the US if any that can go a year without at least one threat to the power grid due to excessive snow, tornadoes, hurricanes, etc.
Yeah but even my very cheap chest freezer has a rating of 41 hours without power. Then there's pressure canning which is a pretty big thing in the US. I prepare food and can it in 12 500ml jars at a time so it stores basically indefinitely without power.
Yup, I live in a place where hurricanes happen. Last time a hurricane hit we had power out for half a day. 0 threat to anything in the freezer. Even the fridge was fine.
It’s been over a decade since I’ve had a power outage that lasted more than a couple hours, and a chest freezer set to -10°f will be safe for a couple days even in the hottest days of summer. I live rural and remote, I’ll be using a generator for my well if an outage lasts more than a day anyways.
Thankfully this is a thread about the US; that isn't something you need to worry about here. We don't have power outages for 3+ days unlike whatever shitty country you're from.
The longest power outage I ever experienced in my life was the year I lived in the US and we had to go without power for a little over 2 weeks after a storm. Though I do find it hilarious that New York devolved into pure anarchy when the power went out for a couple of hours.
Yeah but even my very cheap chest freezer has a rating of 41 hours without power. Then there's pressure canning which is a pretty big thing in the US. I prepare food and can it in 12 500ml jars at a time so it stores basically indefinitely without power.
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there are very few places in the US if any that can go a year without at least one threat to the power grid due to excessive snow, tornadoes, hurricanes, etc.
Yeah but there's very few places in the US that experience a power outage for more than 12, 24 hours.
And obviously you have solar+ Powerwall battery backups
Eh I used to browse /misc/ daily and this is nothing. Pretty comfy thread actually minus the homosexuals arguing about this being not cheaper or some other excuse for buying a cow not being based.
A freezer is something you could easily run on meme roof protectors. You don't use it at night and it can easily survive 24 hours without power, and it only uses around 1kWh per day.
there's a farm here that offers a similar deal and if i lived in a place that would allow a deep freeze I would absolutely take it.
i even emailed them to ask what they'd do witht he offal and they said they could throw it in for free, champions. just need to get into a proper place
I've done this twice before. Burgerland. Farm is in my hometown but I get it shipped downstate now. Great meat, only get 1/4 of a cow at a time though because of freezer space. Highly recommend.
Would LOVE to have a workspace large enough to process an entire fucking cow but there’s no way that’s happening in my condo. Homestead one day, and I might start with lamb.
he picked it up from a butcher retard
Well duh I too saw the other posts that were made after mine.
Nta but it was obvious in the OP that he didn't butcher it himself. You are a retard.
>do you still hear the lambs anon
The ground beef alone would be at least $1,250 even at Walmart.
That is the price, in euros, in my country too. Weird, I assumed beef was cheaper in the US.
and that would be for corn fed beef. grass fed is more expensive
Where did the other kidney go?
He probably split the vote with other people.
Here usually 4 families at a time get together to buy a cow
Literally only like a quarter of those cuts are actually good.
You just need to cook low and slow and season appropriately.
Crockpot is a game changer.
Learn how to cook homosexual
>250 days worth of protein for 2400$
Goddamn.
giwtwm
Is this even saving money compared to paying more for beef as you use it, and keeping the $2400 invested?
I guess members of /r/steak must be eating steak every night already.
Dumbass, what better investment is there than food? You don't have to eat the whole cow in a week, you can freeze it and thaw out a cut here and there over the course of a year or more.
storage - costs.
yes its cheaper, or literally no one would do it, what would be the point if it wasn't, just to say you have 300lbs of beef in your fridge?
>what better investment is food?
How about the SP500? 11% gains annually.
Buying meat doesn't make interest, it's a 1-1 exchange. (Unless I guess you're going to try and sell beef later, when the price goes up)
Any financial instrument that increases in value more than the price of beef inflates over the same period - also assuming you buy beef constantly - is a better investment.
>over the course of a year or more
That's what I'm saying.
You're out $2400 right now buying this much beef - you only get your value "back" when you finally eat the last ounce.
The longer it takes you to eat it all, the larger the losses in potential compound interest.
600 lbs of beef is likely multiple years btw.
If the price of the beef is half off retail price (very likely), and you expect to eat it completely in 3 years, and you expect that you otherwise would have bought the beef at $4800 otherwise, your alternative investment would have to make 100% over three years, or 23% per year for continuous exponential growth.
Hmm
Looks like the average price of beef products is $7.60/lb, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics (steaks being the outlier at $10.771/lb)
So you'd save a couple hundred ($3672 vs $3333) buying the beef.
But that's assuming a purely even spread of beef products, e.g. steaks making up a full quarter of the weight of the beef on hand... Here a full 45% of the cow is only ground beef products, which are much cheaper at around $5.60/lb
Then again, the "investment" option assumes you abstain from buying beef for the entire period. If you're dipping into that $2400 investment constantly to buy beef, especially at normal market prices, you're not going to make it to $3333. So iunno, you're probably right.
>time value of money
True in principle but shuffling grocery money out of a stock acct would create a lot of taxable events and I doubt you’d have that $2400 invested long enough to benefit from the mkt avg. You’d be effectively timing the market each time you withdraw money again for groceries. Financial engineering doesn’t work well in such small quantities
In such small quantities there wouldn't be anything to trigger any amount of taxes. The reality is that if you eat a lot of beef, it's cheaper to buy in bulk 99% of the time.
>600 lbs of beef is likely multiple years btw.
About a year and a half of you have no family or friends
I love people acting like $2400 accruing any amount of interest or gain is enough to matter
either way, this is an incredibly good deal compared to buying anywhere near the equivalent from the grocery store
your health is your wealth. All the money in the world doesnt matter if you get sick or cut your lifespan short by eating garbage food
As somebody who’s worked in finance his whole adult life, this is an absolutely retarded argument.
You know you have to eat every day, right anon? Multiple times a day, even. And that you need to spend money in order to get this food that you eat multiple times a day? And this is an unchanging and guaranteed fact of life unless you grow your own food in your backyard or barter for it with other items?
You're not making fuck all in the stock market with $2400 unless you hit it big on penny stocks.
>being this fucking stupid to not understand how investing works
>also not understanding cost of storage
kys pajeet
The chances of making more money than you save on beef (100%) is marginal. The cost of storage is also marginal.
If you eat a lot of beef, it's absolutely worth it. I'd say it's better to go in with some friends though, a lot cheaper and won't sit in the freezer for years.
its probably cheaper and you are supporting your local farmer which is ideal
He'd have to freezer almost all that though wouldn't he? Freezer meat is depressingly mogged by just fresh fridge cooled meat
That's what I was thinking, but maybe the fact it's vacuum sealed means he doesn't have to?
113kg of 80/20 ground beef
That's actually a good deal, butcher shops are normally ghastly expensive but I guess if you buy a whole cow you save money.
>no liver
>no brain
The brain is not worth eating. It's pure cholesterol. A small can of brain is like 3000% the daily recommended intake
Your brain must be pure cholesterol for you to have made such a stupid post.
>1 liver split up in 4 backs
anon fails at basic reading comprehension
that's a good deal. where I live, grass fed ground beef is 8 bucks a pound
I don't like ground beef but I like steaks and beef stew. What part of the cow makes ground beef? Could you just cut it up and have more stew meat instead of making it into ground beef? Or even just a tough steak?
Typically it's whatever is unsuitable to sell at a higher price so shoulders, ground sirloin and etc is pretty self explanatory. Drumpf used to order burgers made from filet mignon minced up. Ideally for me at least you want lean but nowhere near as lean as that.
The best imo is to do 1:1 with some high quality ground pork, some breadcrumbs (from actual bread don't use crackers or oats) and make the most God tier meatloaf you ever had. Or meatballs for pasta, I use like 3 different kinds of noodles, usually all organic and fresh herbs as well and other such meme ingredients to make the best post workout sloppa ever.
You can ask for all your ground to be left as roasts, or sliced into stew meat. Might cost you a little extra because you’re asking them to deviate from their established procedure, and you’ll miss out on the small bits of meat between the long ribs, etc, but it’s maybe 10 lbs of loss over a cow sized animal.
Delmonico is the retarded way to say ribeye
>$2400
just run over a deer and smoke it
Deer will fuck up most passenger vehicles though.
spend the $2500 on a bigger one
You are not getting that much meat from a deer genius. Also if you try to process a deer with no experience and no help, it will take you all day and there is a good chance you will end up in the hospital.
ehh i did it fine the first time its not brain surgery
The one time I hunted deer it was riddled with parasites
From a Swedish perspective, definitely better than you'll get beef for in a store, but not crazy. My main meat is chicken and I get that frozen at $1.14/lb.
bruh you live in a different country across an ocean what the fuck are you comparing prices for?
Because Europeans like to interject with their opinions on everything even though they have been irrelevant since the end of the Cold War.
>they have been irrelevant since the end of the Cold War.
weren't we less relevant back then? I feel like that is around when the US peaked
>Cold War
europe has been irrelevant since the end of world war one. maugham was saying europe was finished in 1919.
Because first world to first world is sometimes comparable. Even more so because wages tend to be comparable.
But even more so because sometimes shit gets very wacky when comparing UK to Scandinavia, or cheap US electricity states vs expensive US electricity states
It wasn't that bad until Germany decided to treat the rest of EU as leubensrom for farming electricity.
Would be based if it had actually met their energy demands (they ended up apending 750bn USD on buying energy for a warm winter as a result of """sustainable""" energy and MUH UKRAINE)
And UK residents use little Chinese heat exchangers running on diesel because of how retarded their gov is, problem is its not unique, they are doing the same with US
glöm inte bort all extra kostnad i skatt som är mycket högre än usa, lägre lön (i Sverige) och att du köper den billigaste tristaste fågeln i hönshuset medans snubben fick prima kött
For anyone curious about this; in the end if you price it out per lb of what you get, you pay more than you would at the grocery store for the ground beef, but you save a tonne on the steaks. So if you plan on buying a cow mostly for just the ground beef, you're still better off just buying it at the grocery store.
He’s paying 4 bucks a pound where more than half the cow is nicer than straight up grounded. how the fuck is grocery meat cheaper? Grass fed is 7 a pound
grocery store ground beef is cheaper. Grass fed is literally a meme. Basically all cows are grass fed and you're an idiot if you think otherwise.
I should say, in Canada anyway, don't know about the shithole states' standards
Thanks for specifying that you're in cuckland. American cows are fed corpse starch
>tfw I can buy a lb for $6
Yeah I don't think that's worth it.
How much would it cost to run a freezer long enough for you to eat 600 lb?
About $36/year. Chest freezers are incredibly cheap to operate compared to literally any other kind of refrigeration equipment because the cold air doesn’t fall out of them when you open it. They barely need lids.
If you get a chest freezer, practically nothing. They're super efficient
Sounds fantastic but 600 pounds is like 2 years of meat for me (I only eat meat on weekends)
All the better to now provide for friends and family. >Split it with a buddy to feed two families
>Host BBQs and dinner parties
>Have a friend that could use some financial aid? Give em 50lbs of meat
>$2400
Can any autist calculate whether this is a good deal in terms of price/lbs
Retards finding out buying things in bulk is cheaper.
What are you talking about? I'm literally finding the opposite my comment was exactly pointing out that you would get MORE if you DIDNT buy in bulk. Just go to the store and you would get a fucking shit ton of more meat for that price. Fucking retard
you are insane.
He must be a raw meat eater, they are usually crazy
>Just go to the store
I'd rather buy an entire cow, even if it was more expensive
It was a bull though not a cow so you wouldn't get the cow vagina which I know is why you want the whole cow you sick fuck
Part of me envies that you live at home and don't buy your own groceries.
Where can you get t bone steaks for 4 bucks a pound.
Pro-tip: nowhere
See
Great deal if you have the freezer
A grass-fed cow usually makes about 550 pounds of meat. I don't know if he bought any organs.
$2400 / 550 pounds = $4.36/lb
wtf where do you guys live that beef costs more than $5 a pound (not counting the expensive cuts)
>not counting the expensive cuts
Look at
16 filets, 12 t-bones, 12 sirloins, 8 porterhouses, etc. There's nowhere you're getting that stuff for $5/pound. If you just wanted ground beef then you might get it cheaper, but that's not the point of buying a whole cow.
ground beef is catfood but I usually just stock up on chuck which is $5/lb
What is the difference between chuck and ground beef?
I don't know enough english.
chuck is a cheaper cut of steak whereas ground beef is random shitty leftover bits and rat shit that the grocery had lying around put through a meat grinder and sold as hamburger or taco meat
>random shitty leftover bits and rat shit that the grocery had lying around put through a meat grinder and sold as hamburger or taco meat
Are you the homosexual from earlier who said stew meat was gross? Imagine calling the perfect combination of muscle meat, connective tissue and beef fat "rat shit." God, what a homosexual.
No. If you buy ground beef from a grocery store you are a certified retard. It's extremely easy to buy whatever meat you want and grind it yourself.
I don't want to grind meat, you stupid homosexual. I don't need a machine to pre-chew my meat for me because I'm not a jawless subhuman like you. I specifically buy ground beef BECAUSE it includes more than just muscle, like joints and ligaments and collagen and connective tissue. I value these because I exercise and I think eating all parts of a cow is important, too.
Being squeamish about meat that isn't the fucking filet mignon or strip steak and calling any part of the based cow "rat shit" is such an embarrassing trait for a grown man to have. I bet you eat protein bars with rainbow sprinkles, fucking idiot.
No idiot they put literal rat shit and fillers in the grocery ground meat. You can easily buy cartilage and grind it up yourself, homosexual.
>No idiot they put literal rat shit and fillers in the grocery ground meat.
[citation required]
>~~*Eric Schlosser*~~
>Don't eat meat, eat bugs!
>raw meat can give you food poisoning
Did you seriously need a news article to tell you this? lmao
By the way, your "source" doesn't show that there was any "rat shit" in beef. Or any fecal matter at all, actually. Consumer Reports found 0 poop in that beef. E. coli infects the gut but isn't only spread by direct fecal contamination (see below). Also it doesn't mention anything about fillers.
https://blog.meatinstitute.org/2015/08/no-consumer-reports-did-not-find-poop-in-ground-beef/
Holy shit, you're retarded.
this. i'd chew on cows asshole if it gave me the micros and macros i need nvm the taste. cows are the most based of creatures
Ground chuck is a specific muscle (chuck steak) whereas ground beef can be any muscle or joint or connective tissue.
I see. Over here i know what meat was ground down when i go to the butcher, or i demand that he grinds what i want.
>If you just wanted ground beef then you might get it cheaper
a VERY cheap ground beef is $4 a pound, which is pretty much what he paid, and he got grass fed. grass fed is $7
Buy a cow for me bros
No g4p pls
You don’t get the leather nor the testicles so it’s not really worth it
>testicles
What? Are cow balls expensive? Why?
>cow balls
tranny
Rocky mt oysters
If you're buying a cow you wanna buy a female or a steer, so a male that was castrated when it was young, obviously you're not gonna get the testes with it.
Probably comes out to around 5 dollars a pound. Cheaper than costco by about half-off.
The short version is it isn't a good deal because it being a good deal is contingent on a bunch of conditions that are extremely precise to the guy in that reddit post. For 99% of people, you're better off taking the $2,400 and doing something else.
Depends what cuts he got, and what type of beef it is, like a Herford, Holstein, Angus or whatever . When you take a cow to the butcher you can ask them to give your mostly steaks, mostly ground beef, or whatever. There's a lot of steaks they'll turn into ground beef if you don't tell them, same with roasts. Having none of that info though I'd say it was a good deal.
How low of an IQ do you have to have to not be able to figure out this
>$5/lb
>Months of meat
>2hr drive each way to pick it up
>Loading/unloading 600lbs of meat
>storing 600lbs of meat
>only save $5/lb
If you factor in time and effort spend, I don't think it's a good deal. Guy probably spent a few hours loading and unloading it all. 4 hours of driving, and the hours it will take to defrost each piece when he wants to cook it. Depending on how much he makes an hour, but I would say it's probably not worth the inconvenience. In the end you're only saving a few dollars a pound, so it would probably be easier and more convenient to just buy meat in smaller quantities from a wholesale store. Quality might not be as good, but I think the convenience is worth it.
>Depending on how much he makes an hour,
People always say this but nobody is working 168 hours a week. Counting your free time in hours as if every hour not working is a loss is a stupid comparison. It's not like he made the choice between working 4 hours and driving those 4 hours, he did this in his weekend. More likely he gave up some hours of watching TV to drive there
Is there a good way to freeze and defrost meat without a noticable loss in quality?
A persons value of time is not equal to their labor while working. It is just deciding what to do with it. You can make an argument for the cost of gas used but otherwise your point makes no sense.
This illogic is what drives so many people to pay money for convenience. Better have somebody grocery shop for me or door dash my food because if I save 20 minutes I’m actually breaking even with delivery cost! >proceeds to use all that ‘saved’ effort to watch TV.
Have some pride in your life and actually interact with the world and you won’t be such an isolationist depressed mess.
If you really wanted to, you could put a 12v computer fan inside the freezer, and hotwire it to a USB charger connector.
At best it won't do much and at worst it will cause it to effectively turn off. It depends entirely on the regulator used. In a chest freezer the evaporator goes up the inside wall(s) so when the hot air rises to the top, the top of the evaporator cools it and it falls back down to the bottom, causing a lot of natural convection where the hot air is pretty consistently at the top. These things are extremely thermally efficient already and making it better is legitimately difficult.
WTF retard
The goal isn't to make the freezer "more effective". The only way to do that is by adding more insulation.
The goal of a 12v fan is to increase circulation. Not that you need it for vacuum packed meat.
>The goal isn't to make the freezer "more effective".
>The goal of a 12v fan is to increase circulation
Never mind that I said "efficient," not "effective." For what fucking purpose are you adding the fan then? Are you trying to make a stable temperature chamber? If so then by all means put a fan in there to keep the entire chamber at a consistent temp. We're talking about freezing meat as fast as possible. Not keeping it at a perfectly consistent -17.77893°C.
>For what fucking purpose are you adding the fan then?
Which is colder anon?
Naturally convicting air at very low pressure, or fanned air at high pressure?
>stable temperature chamber
Its a freezer not a fridge you dumb fuck.
Natural convection is FAR colder at the coldest point in the chamber, which will be at the bottom. What does that have to do with anything?
You are welcome to your opinion anon. But you are sadly wrong, and can't argue your fucking way out of a shoe box if prompted.
But tell me why minisplits have fans over their radiators on both ends.
I'l wait.
Okay inside your freezer is a regulator tuned to that specific freezer's geometry and for specific characteristics. Imagine it's a little man called Reg Ulator inside the walls of your freezer. He has a thermometer that he looks at and he uses that information to turn the compressor on and off. Now the thermometer is placed somewhere inside the freezer wall and so it doesn't actually reflect the temperature everywhere within the cold chamber, so he's been told that since the thermometer is placed up high he should actually shut the compressor off a few minutes before it reads proper freezer cold or the he will end up cooling it too much before the temperature gradient equalizes.
Here comes Dingus McDYEL and installs a fan into the freezer without replacing or re-tuning the regulator. Dingus McDYEL has now made it so the regulator, which was tuned to shut off at a reading of -15°C because that means the bottom would be at -25°C and the average over time would be about -19°C which falls to -18°C from environmental losses well before the compressor has to turn on again, now shuts off when the entire god damn freezer compartment is at -15°C. But don't worry you gloriously retarded homosexual because that's the best case scenario. It can get much worse than that: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PTjPzw9VhY
Wrong.
You can pump more, but you are limited to the thermal flow. Pumping more just results in not transferring heat via the compressor If the thermostat is jury rigged for the max thermal flow, then a fan will only accelerate ambient transfer.
The key difference is that a chest freezer has more thermal mass, and lack many of the limitation a fridge has.
Your goal in freezing meat isn't to speedrun it to -20C, its to get it across freezing as fast as possible. Which is why
is always going to be right:
Batches is the correct way to do it IF you know your freezers limited temperature capacity AND its limited heat transfer. But you still want a fan alongside that, to speed up freezing(not to cheat the thermostat)
If you are not replacing the regulator or re-tuning the existing one you are going to reduce the duty cycle of the compressor, because they're all basic P-regulators with varying degrees of huge amounts of hysteresis. You will reduce the amount of heat removed from the system. Feel free to screw yourself over. I will stick to engineering.
>If the thermostat is jury rigged for the max thermal flow
It's not. Commit Canadian healthcare.
>It's not.
It is.
That is the point of the video.
By changing the values you feed to the thermostat the compressor pumps MORE than the radiators can give off, thereby decreasing effectivity.
Its a fucking fridge with low thermal mass, and passive radiators inside of plastic. There is a reason why commercial units runs fin radiators with direct air passthrough via fans, because it allows you to adjust how much heat is transferred via adjusting the pumping, and allows you to use even more juice to get more cooling after somebody has opened the door for tooo long.
And again:
Its not a fucking box freezer where your only goal is to breach freezing
Well, I tried. I hope yours is the only freezer you ruin.
How do people who seem to know so much about freezers have such different opinions about them, while calling each other mean names. Be nicer to each other youre both smart
>Guy probably spent a few hours loading and unloading it all. 4 hours of driving,
You think if he didn't buy in bulk he wouldn't have to haul it back home? And that's ignoring that he most likely saves time by moving it all in a few trips.
>and the hours it will take to defrost each piece when he wants to cook it
What the actual fuck?
Defrosting isn't an active process. You can just pull something out the day before and put it in your fridge.
It defrost on it's own.
>One grocery trip instead of one hundred
Seems based
The farmers probably helped them load, but even then unloading 600lbs is nothing. Restaurant workers do this shit all the time when their suppliers drop off ingredients and equipment. Fuck off you noodle armed homosexual.
What am I missing? Seems like you would get a lot of meat with $2400 if you just bought it from the store as well. Does he have couple extra freezers stocked up also or is that really it?
Ground beef yeah, not everything. Also if you are talking fancy grass fed with low fat unless on good sale or about to go bad you can't even get ground beef that cheap.
>source: i usually eat a pound of ground beef per day
He's going to have a lot of health problems
So that's £7.12 per kilo, plus the cost of a giant freezer and the electricity to run it for a year.
And if something happens to the power for more than a couple hours he's fucked.
Freezers stay cold if you don't open them. Worse case scenario you can buy ice.
Retard.
Plus you're getting the entire cow, which isn't all great in terms of meat quality.
>11 month old steer
Should be pretty tender, right?
>Plus you're getting the entire cow, which isn't all great in terms of meat quality.
>Plus you're getting the entire cow, which isn't all great in terms of meat quality.
>???
lmfao
The amount of people exposing themselves for a) never buying their own groceries; and b) not knowing how to cook -- is staggering. Stew meat is great, just make a stew out of it ffs.
Thin minute steaks are great for when you come back from the gym late at night and want some protein cooked in 2 minutes or want to make a nice steak sandwich that is tender even if you overcook it. Roasts are delicious but take time, they are great for lazy afternoons and inviting friends over for a feast.
Figure it out, buddy.
Annual operating cost for a chest freezer of 14 cubic feet only runs around 300kwH per year.
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/insignia-14-0-cu-ft-garage-ready-chest-freezer-white/6444379.p?skuId=6444379
300kwH /year * like 12c/KwH so like $36 per year
he’s a bong he pays like 0.6£/kWh so he’d be looking at 180£ a year just for that fridge
The freezer will run much more efficient when it's full, because opening the door does not flush out 50% of the cold volume since all the cold meat stays inside
>factoring in buying electricity
lmaoing at europoors
i don’t know about the brit but here in France I buy electricity for about 90€/Mwh, which is about half the average US prices (170$/MWh).
God gave us the atom to heat our homes and fry the asiatics. If your country’s gris isn’t exploiting the atom to its fullest capabilities (so 80%+ nuclear), your country is run by retards.
>your country is run by retards.
Yes, that is correct.
t. American
My country is certainly run by retards, Australia, help me
I mean you are the British's inbred offspring so that's a given
My country built a nuclear plant on unstable foundations. You can't get more retarded.
>God gave us the atom to heat our homes and fry the asiatics
Cosmically based
Rare france W ngl
I could not be more agreed frog.
>your country is run by retards
Only partly
The rest are categorically evil and deliberately malicious
>God gave us the atom to heat our homes and fry the asiatics.
Based frog, seems I judged you guys to harshly.
Found your old photo.
Agreed.
t. Amerilardtard
Enjoy it while you can you guys haven't built a new nuclear reactor in decades and some of the ones you have are starting to show their age as shown by the issues you guys had last winter. And yes I know recently you decided to finally build some new ones but thats going to take 10-15 years so the next decade could get rough especially if Russian oil and gas never comes back on the market.
Electricity in my region is mostly hydroelectric, it was deemed more viable than nuclear after they went through the trouble of building the power plant of course. Also cheaper than $80/MWh due to having AmeriGOD geothermal HVAC.
viva la atom
I gave 300 euros for the summer in Cyprus. the air con was on all the time tho
>counting the electricity
Yikes my man. Electricity is almost free nowadays. Where do you live that you even consider it?
In Sweden you need to earn 6 figures to afford heating your home because of the Ukraine drama and Sweden selling excess electricity due to EU regulations which then means we need to buy expensive electricity from our neighbours. EUs can meme about Americans all they want but the entire continent is going the way of the Middle East both in looks and practice because it might look nice over here but most peoples quality of life sucks. People live in apartments literally their entire lives
Bros... Should I?
https://5barbeef.com/products/half-cow-deposit-august-2018
someone else immediately found a better deal than OP lmao assuming it’s a 50% deposit
>power outage ruins all of that
Heh, Nothing personal
The entire temperature of the freezer would have to hit 40ºF+ to spoil the meat, which would take a few days. Do you live somewhere where the power goes out for 3+ days frequently?
Your home owner's insurance will cover that if you document, as you should.
I've never had a problem with my meat during power outages. Worst comes to worst you get some ice if the outage lasts more than 3-4 days.
What kind of third-world shithole do you live that you have power outages??
cyprus
>Has a 10kw generator
Heh plebs
In my 34 years on this earth I've never had a power outage long enough to thaw my freezers.
So many fucking retards itt spouting their dogshit, retarded opinions
>BUT WHAT ABOUT THE POWER COSTS OF THE FREEZER
>BUT WHAT IF THE POWER GOES OUT FOR 3+ DAYS
>Heh, you can totally buy steaks at less than $5 a pound where I live
>Only 1/4 of those cuts of beef are "good" (?????????????????????)
Let them buy their hormone & food coloring ridden grocery store """"meat""""
Freezerchads keep winning
>Only 1/4 of those cuts of beef are "good"
Yeah, who the fuck wants to eat 20 pounds of ground chuck, 4 bottom round roasts, 24 fucking Delmonicos, 10 chucks, 12 tbones (only good for the tenderloin), 4 eye rounds, 4 more chuck roasts, 8 back ribs, 20 pounds of fucking stew meat (EW), 20 soup bones? some mishmash organs, 10 packs of minute steaks, way too many short ribs that anybody wants to actually eat. The ground beef, tenderloins, and flanks or strips are good. That's what everyone wants. I'd rather pay 500 dollars for shit I want than 2400 for shit I think I want.
I think you should be executed
Wait for this, I cook all of my meat well done.
Do you eat it with ketchup too?
Yeah actually I do.
bro how small is your jaw? please post jawline.
Tenderloin, flanks and sirloin is pretty tough, especially when done well done. Lots of chucks and pot-roasts just kind of fall off too much.
>tenderloin is pretty tough
>well done
What the actual fuck?
>20 pounds of fucking stew meat (EW)
Average city dwelling liberal westerner
Stews are gross.
You're an American retard. We get it. Stick to your chicken nuggies, burgers, and pizza.
Well done steaks > Stews
Bottom feeder, bet you like cod as well.
>cod
???
You know like Cod fish?
Yeah, I think most people who eat fish like it. What a weird thing to hate. It'd be like saying bacon is bottom feeder food
It's a shitty, bottom-feeder fish comparative to something like Halibut.
Cod aren't bottom feeders, they hunt.
>gatekeeping food
>It's a shitty, bottom-feeder fish
What does that have to do with cows?
Halibut is a literal bottom feeder flat fish unlike Cod. Jesus you're a dullard.
What does cod fish have to do with cows?
post physique you fucking manlet zoomer twig
have a nice day Bronze Age Pervert Golden Shower Queer! We say "post body" on SwoleShack! "Post physique" is what gay asshomosexuals like Golden One say to signal they love a literally gay israeli e-celeb
How can one anon be so stupid?
Learn to cook retard
Are you retarded or just haven't eaten good food before? Beef stew is one of the best foods ever created. I bet you hate mushrooms too.
Kys
>20 pounds of fucking stew meat (EW)
Being this gay should be illegal.
Fag has never had a steak pie in his life.
>who the fuck wants to eat 20 pounds of ground chuck, 4 bottom round roasts, 24 fucking Delmonicos, 10 chucks, 12 tbones (only good for the tenderloin), 4 eye rounds, 4 more chuck roasts, 8 back ribs, 20 pounds of fucking stew meat (EW), 20 soup bones? some mishmash organs, 10 packs of minute steaks, way too many short ribs that anybody wants to actually eat.
Me.
Learn to cook holy shit
>way too many short ribs
Fucker, I'll kill you for disrespecting short ribs!
t. autistic child who only eats chicken tenders and craft cheese macaroni
imagine being able to say "I literally ate an entire cow" tho
It's not really that impressive. You've probably eaten several cows already. It's somewhere around 2000kcal/kg of final weight so even if you got 300kg after butchering that's still only about 2/3rds of a year worth of calories assuming 2500kcal/day.
The faster it freezes the less crystallization you'll have. Your freezer has a freezing capacity (probably in the 10-20kg/day range). If you have a lot of meat you should freeze it in batches. Use multiple freezers if you have them and use your fridge to pre-chill the meat. Other than that, make sure there's good opportunity for airflow around what you're freezing. Your freezer works on natural convection and if the air can't move efficiently then your meat freezes slower.
And I forgot to add: vacuum-packing your meat prior to freezing will make for far better heat transfer. It doesn't have to be some fancy machine, just suck the air out of the bag you put the meat in before closing it. If you can alter the shape of the meat (eg. ground meat) then maximize the surface area and minimize the width in one dimension so the meat itself doesn't have to conduct the heat as far to get frozen. For example: pack your ground beef in flat bags and sit/hang them upright in the freezer with room between them for air to flow.
Faggiest post I have read in the whole 2023
>Yeah, who the fuck wants to eat 20 pounds of ground chuck, 4 bottom round roasts, 24 fucking Delmonicos, 10 chucks, 12 tbones (only good for the tenderloin), 4 eye rounds, 4 more chuck roasts, 8 back ribs, 20 pounds of fucking stew meat (EW), 20 soup bones? some mishmash organs, 10 packs of minute steaks, way too many short ribs that anybody wants to actually eat.
Me.
Meat is meat.
>Everybody wanna be a bodybuilder, but don't nobody wanna eat no heavy ass steaks!
Please tell me this is well engineered bait. I refuse to believe anybody this onions has lasted more than a day on this site
Yea if you just drive 30 mins out into the country from a major metro city (I'm in the midwest) you'll start seeing signs for purchasing bison mean, beef, eggs, etc. I'm certain it's much better than whole foods
This thread is really exposing unbelievable levels of retardation and cope
>no one even wants most of these cuts
>I don’t understand how it’s cheaper. It can’t be!
>what about the power
Cow and chest freezer gang still undefeated.
>but what you lose le power
Imagine being a self-respecting White man and not owning a generator
Can we stop responding to the retard who got btfo and is now trying to act extra retarded so he can say he was just trolling the whole time
How much for a butchered horse?
>Laughs in rural Michigan
Stay cucked, urbanite
That is not a whole cow, you get a lot more than that for a whole cow. That doesn't even look like a half cow. I'm still working through a half cow I bought 2 years ago.
Making the European middle class so poor they can't afford to cool/heat their homes and drive a personal automobile is all part of ze plan.
>not doing these things is Green anyway goy
>so is eating meat
>so is having children
Remember when Amerigolems kept repeating that Euros we’re gonna freeze to death in the winter and then a bunch of Americans froze to death instead?
>all wrapped in plastic
owari da
I know it won't help you unemployed loaners, but if you have friends or co-workers, you can split this. I went in on a whole grass fed hog with 2 other co-workers.
stop with the grass fed bullshit, they're all grass fed, you didn't get anything better than anyone else and paid more for it
>they're all grass fed
You are unbelievably ignorant.
t. Girlfriend's family ran a cattle farm
>they're all grass fed
Most cows are started on grass, but then moved to grain. Which is cheaper, produces more meat, but it's a lower quality meat.
Wait until you find out about meat glue.
>grass fed hog
What? Do you mean pasture-raised? Pigs don't eat grass.
I assume he mistyped that part
I do the same thing as this guy and it's goated as fuck. Buy direct from a farm and get a quarter of a cow, last year I also bought a quarter of a lamb. It lasts you a ridiculously long time and the price is so much better. Also the ground beef tastes better than anything, I actually had no idea the difference was so real. When I'm bulking I'd dethaw a lb of ground beef and make myself two double cheeseburgers with it and just roll in ecstacy over how good it tasted.
Probably spends way less time sitting around in slaughterhouses and warehouses.
I've done something like this before, only with a pig. I split it with my sister and brother in law. Apart from being great value, I swear to god the meat from that pig tasted better than any cut of pork I've ever purchased from a store. Definitely a good idea if you have the space for it, and a good connection.
My sister works at a farmers market, so she knew the farmer we bought it from.
It really does taste way better. It's real. I actually prefer ground pork to ground beef when I get it that way.
>freezer full of quality local beef
>hundreds of lbs to feed the family for the year (at least)
>go to the farmers market on weekends to get vegetables/fruits/sides
>avoid fucked up factory food and grocery store zoo experiences
Life could be so comfy
The things money can do
You can't actually cook that's why you have to post pictures from reddit
>a few dozens steaks for the price of a car
what the fuck
You are not finding anything for under ~$3500 right now
I buy calves and slaughter and butcher them in bath tub.
>nooo but my health laws and city ordinances
Mushallah infidel kuffir I will blow ypu up if you try to stop me
Rentoid me can't have 3 freezers for a years supply of cow meat.
It's only like $1000-2000 to own and run 3 brand new chest freezers for 1 year.
Buy a quarter side of beef and put it in a half chest freezer.
Pretty sure you lose a lot of the money you save to refrigeration
My friend growing up somehow unplugged the meat freezer in his basement while rollerblading lol. Nobody even realized until there was an overwhelming smell. They never got the stink out the house. It probably still smells and that was like thirty years ago.
What does this say about America? What am I missing? Nigga I can go buy 100 whole cows if I want
This is fairly standard. A lot of private customers bought whole produce when I was working at a combined slaughterhouse & processing factory. A lot of Muslims buying lamb and requiring gay procedures for semantics sake, such as swapping gloves when handling them and letting them cool separately from non-halal lambs (which were fucking identical they had both been killed off 5 minutes ago).
This is literally fascism and the studies show that. Importing cartel owned avocado and spirulina capsules along with a daily athletic greens powder made by a sweet little Cambodian sweat shop worker is not only better for the environment and your health but morally superior. You've been warned.
that's not even 1/20th of a cow.
t. buys 100kg of beef from his neighbour once a year
Depends on the cow. I'm getting one later this month and it's only gonna be around 220kg butchered.
>R*ddit
G.
>power outage
>it all spoils
While I'm sure it's fun to use your freezer as target practice, you really should replace it if it's so full of holes that it can't keep cool on its own for about a day without power.
there are very few places in the US if any that can go a year without at least one threat to the power grid due to excessive snow, tornadoes, hurricanes, etc.
Yeah but even my very cheap chest freezer has a rating of 41 hours without power. Then there's pressure canning which is a pretty big thing in the US. I prepare food and can it in 12 500ml jars at a time so it stores basically indefinitely without power.
Yup, I live in a place where hurricanes happen. Last time a hurricane hit we had power out for half a day. 0 threat to anything in the freezer. Even the fridge was fine.
It’s been over a decade since I’ve had a power outage that lasted more than a couple hours, and a chest freezer set to -10°f will be safe for a couple days even in the hottest days of summer. I live rural and remote, I’ll be using a generator for my well if an outage lasts more than a day anyways.
Thankfully this is a thread about the US; that isn't something you need to worry about here. We don't have power outages for 3+ days unlike whatever shitty country you're from.
The longest power outage I ever experienced in my life was the year I lived in the US and we had to go without power for a little over 2 weeks after a storm. Though I do find it hilarious that New York devolved into pure anarchy when the power went out for a couple of hours.
>Chest freezer
>Giving any fucks unless its 1 week+
Yeah but there's very few places in the US that experience a power outage for more than 12, 24 hours.
And obviously you have solar+ Powerwall battery backups
I've eaten meat 2 days after the animal was butchered without freezing it whatsoever. A lot of pussies ITT.
Is it just me, or is this thread more schizophrenic than unusual for SwoleShack?
Eh I used to browse /misc/ daily and this is nothing. Pretty comfy thread actually minus the homosexuals arguing about this being not cheaper or some other excuse for buying a cow not being based.
Anon buys a custom packaged cow for eating. Day 5 "holly shit I'm sick of cow".
lol good luck op.
>"holly shit I'm sick of cow"
I've never experienced this problem. Would eat steak, ribs or ground beef or even marrow every day if I could.
How long would this last you, assuming you used meat here for 2 meals a day?
I work on a farm, and we'll sell pigs with belly ruptures for 50 bucks, you just gotta pay a butcher 300 or so to have it butchered.
Butcher videos are so satisfying to watch
I wonder if this is what ASMRfags feel.
>Grass fed cow
There's no other kind here.
Grass fed in the US just means it isn’t grain finished.
The worst thing the food industry ever did was convince people to have "variety" instead of buying a few things in bulk.
We should have buyer's clubs so we can do both. Buy a pig and a cow and split it between 2 or 3 families.
IMO frozen meat is nutritionally inferior to fresh never frozen. Aajonus vonderplanitz discusses this.
Everyone get a load of this fucking midwit. Congratulations, you caught up to the rest of the planet.
Buy a generator before they're banned, if you don't already have one.
A freezer is something you could easily run on meme roof protectors. You don't use it at night and it can easily survive 24 hours without power, and it only uses around 1kWh per day.
I just bought only a quarter cow that cost me 1100 leafbux
there's a farm here that offers a similar deal and if i lived in a place that would allow a deep freeze I would absolutely take it.
i even emailed them to ask what they'd do witht he offal and they said they could throw it in for free, champions. just need to get into a proper place
I've done this twice before. Burgerland. Farm is in my hometown but I get it shipped downstate now. Great meat, only get 1/4 of a cow at a time though because of freezer space. Highly recommend.