It is, but only if you have enough of a social life and aren't a retard. I've had more success being decently fit but hyper social than being fucking ripped and a hermit (this should be fucking obvious)
If you are tall that's okay, if you are a manlet, no matter how IST you look they will rather go for the tall lanklet. Women are programmed like that.
Learn to cope with your height and start lifting for all the other manlets that never reach their potential. Think of all the sorrow and despair these whores created.
I'm friends with a huge manlet, who's like a 8/10 in the face and he constntly gets mired. You don't need all qualities as long as you a have couple of them.
god i am so fucking horny my dick and balls are literally aching. if i cant manage to bring home some drunk tourist slut from the bar this friday im going to lose it
Is not inherently wrong, any goal that makes you work towards it is valid enough.
The problem is that most people don't realize that lifting alone doesn't guarantee that you get girls, looking good increases your chances but ultimately you need to talk to them and be charming enough to attract girls.
If you don't work on social skills you won't get any closer just because you are fit and because people don't realize this you get defeatist gays that have never even lift saying that only chads get the girls and shit.
There is more important things to work towards but any goal that makes you work is good enough as long as you realized what it truly takes to achieve it.
If you just lift but don't make attempts to talk to girls or get better at socializing you will only fail and fail again, you won't even realize why and that can fuck you up bad.
When people have a goal but don't really know what it takes to achieve it and they fail is demoralizing, so is ok to lift for pussy but realize that lifting is not enough and work on being more charismatic too..
>lifting alone doesn't guarantee that you get girls, looking good increases your chances but ultimately you need to talk to them and be charming enough to attract girls. >If you don't work on social skills you won't get any closer just because you are fit
Very true. I've still never even kissed a woman despite being a gymrat since I'm still a retarded shut-in aside from work and the gym
how can you work on that though? i agree with what you are saying, i got ottermode and always had a handsome face, but idk how to talk to girls. do i just cold approach now and trial and error it?
bro I think its all a numbers game and about maximizing odds with women at all times. There's no magic bullet.
1. The more you approach, the better the chances of success. Open with a complement of a NON-SEXUAL thing on her. Shoes, Glasses, bracelet, etc. Some dumb shit you don't fucking care about.
2. The fitter and more stylish you are, the more receptive women are to each approach
3. Approach (filter) the women that have shown an interest in you already. Could be a look, smile, hair adjustment, or entering your close physical proximity. This changes odds fucking dramatically.
4. Find your niche, i.e. what type of women may like you, to further maximize odds (age, race, subgroup)
5. Practice talking to any woman of any age to hone your game. Especially grandmas at the supermarket. Anyone. The more you do it, the better you get, and the more odds of success go up.
6.Develop extreme confidence to accomplish 1-5
A venn diagram of all of the above odds-maximization strategies should tell you something, but I'm too lazy to do it.
>Be me >Late bloomer, didn't date at all as teenager >Start forcing myself to talk to girls at around 23 or 24. Get better at approaching, flirting, and score dates, though still too awkward and autistic to get laid from them >Eventually work on my dating skills to the point where I can actually manage to get laid >Eventually notice that the girls I find hottest are less likely to turn into dates when I get their numbers, and that socialmaxxing and dressing well can only get you so far. I have to become hotter. >Start lifting more seriously to the point where even strangers comment on my physique >Start dating 18-year-old 9.5 at age of 27 >Should be content with this, but instead I'm just wondering why I can't pull same-night lays at clubs or get a rotation of girls
I know I should just become exclusive with her because she's crazy about me and is objectively great in personality and looks. But after missing out on so much fucking in my early years, it's like I want to get an opportunity to do that before settling down. But I don't know how to become the slayer Chad who can hookup and fuck multiple people at a time. I have a rich social life, lots of friends, I make the effort and put myself out there and talk to women, I go out, I have things going for me, people tend to like me overall, but I can't pull.
>love is sex
go sex your mader then you fucking incest coomerfag shill chud
none the best songs of the ages mention sex and only modern shit music does
but even modern shit music abides by the rule that sex and love are separate and remain separated in music
dumb fucking music lyriclet
i bet you think romeo and juliet is about underage sex you fucking pedophile
IST body is an enhancer. it will boosts your appeal and likelihood of getting a girl, but you still have to know how to talk to them without being a total sperg and you have to have opportunities to be around them regularly. you're no doubt better off as a fit guy than a non fit guy however
No. I'm 33 and still get 20 year olds easily. Girls my age are basically super easy pickings and the few I fuck are completely ok with me sleeping with younger girls too lmao.
NTA but I'm 32 and got 18-20 year old pussy now that I'm back in college and I still have all my hair (it does help that people tell me I like 25 and that was mostly from my coworkers who knew I had a 4 year degree and military service to my age)
No, because then you'll stop getting the pussy. Duh.
Lifting for pussy is self-sustaining because you have to keep on doing the thing that earned you something in order to keep it. The girls aren't going to stay if you let yourself get fat and weak.
People only say "lift for yourself, not for women" because internal motivation + self esteem is usually more effective than external motivation + seeking validation. The idea is that you're more likely to actually continue lifting if you do it for intrinsic reasons, whereas if you do it for others, you'll eventually get demotivated and demoralized and stop going to the gym.
However, if lifting for women is actually proving an effective strategy to keep you going to the gym, then there's absolutely nothing wrong with that. Whatever gets you lifting is good.
I lift to become incredibly powerful and enforce my will on the world. Specifically to make polygamy legal so I can have multiple wives and concubines.
Because in the time it takes to dine a hoe just to fuck, I could spend 80-100 dollars to get my dick deepthroated by an escort for one hour. I just lift for myself.
Because 90% of people who lift for pussy are gymcels, and since you're on IST you are definitely not part of the 10% exception. You go in and do a big lift or try to show off your pump thinking women are watching with their pussies gushing.
lifting has never helped acquire gf, just be /not-fat/ and mildly interesting.
also for everyone liftin for whamenz, realize that in most cases unless gf is also a chan autist and not a normie, you will inevitably >spend less time at the gym >have less time for hobbies >be spending more money
expect these things to happen or you will eventually be unhappy.
It's ineffective
It is, but only if you have enough of a social life and aren't a retard. I've had more success being decently fit but hyper social than being fucking ripped and a hermit (this should be fucking obvious)
How does one social max
Go outside retard.
Where do I go anon
I mean, that's one reason you can lift for, but there are a bunch that can go along with that as well.
once you get the pussy you will stop lifting and eventually lose the pussy to someone like me who lifts to intimidate weaker men
Christcuck moralfagging about ever touching more than one pussy being bad….because a bunch of desert garden gnomes said so, ok?
not at all my based brother. pussy is good and nice and soft and warm
If you are tall that's okay, if you are a manlet, no matter how IST you look they will rather go for the tall lanklet. Women are programmed like that.
Learn to cope with your height and start lifting for all the other manlets that never reach their potential. Think of all the sorrow and despair these whores created.
Build for us manlets, bro.
stop spreading excuses u made up for urself as if its a fact, literal brain virus
based fellow manlet
he's not making excuses he just knows that some of our fellow manlets are too short to reach the pedestal they put the pussy on
jesus christ man. you know who cares about manlets? manlets. Stop being a bitch about it.
This is why your people used to be used as kickoff practice until that bastard MLK designated you as equals.
I'm friends with a huge manlet, who's like a 8/10 in the face and he constntly gets mired. You don't need all qualities as long as you a have couple of them.
fake and gay
>"i'm taller than u"
>"that's how i like em so they can spank me"
>bitch laughs
>we fuck
>i'm the one spanking her at the end of the day
maybe ur face looks like ass because my game is crap and i still get hoes, people only care about height when you're at high school lmao get over it
Each one needs to fix different things to get lots of pussy, if lifting is one of them for you then why not
god i am so fucking horny my dick and balls are literally aching. if i cant manage to bring home some drunk tourist slut from the bar this friday im going to lose it
Anyone else bothered by the fact that the rings aren't centered?
No, that's autistic.
Yeah how do you even notice that?
name?
@luvlyziah
god bless you
Lifting for pussy is KILLING your gains
Is not inherently wrong, any goal that makes you work towards it is valid enough.
The problem is that most people don't realize that lifting alone doesn't guarantee that you get girls, looking good increases your chances but ultimately you need to talk to them and be charming enough to attract girls.
If you don't work on social skills you won't get any closer just because you are fit and because people don't realize this you get defeatist gays that have never even lift saying that only chads get the girls and shit.
There is more important things to work towards but any goal that makes you work is good enough as long as you realized what it truly takes to achieve it.
If you just lift but don't make attempts to talk to girls or get better at socializing you will only fail and fail again, you won't even realize why and that can fuck you up bad.
When people have a goal but don't really know what it takes to achieve it and they fail is demoralizing, so is ok to lift for pussy but realize that lifting is not enough and work on being more charismatic too..
>lifting alone doesn't guarantee that you get girls, looking good increases your chances but ultimately you need to talk to them and be charming enough to attract girls.
>If you don't work on social skills you won't get any closer just because you are fit
Very true. I've still never even kissed a woman despite being a gymrat since I'm still a retarded shut-in aside from work and the gym
how can you work on that though? i agree with what you are saying, i got ottermode and always had a handsome face, but idk how to talk to girls. do i just cold approach now and trial and error it?
bro I think its all a numbers game and about maximizing odds with women at all times. There's no magic bullet.
1. The more you approach, the better the chances of success. Open with a complement of a NON-SEXUAL thing on her. Shoes, Glasses, bracelet, etc. Some dumb shit you don't fucking care about.
2. The fitter and more stylish you are, the more receptive women are to each approach
3. Approach (filter) the women that have shown an interest in you already. Could be a look, smile, hair adjustment, or entering your close physical proximity. This changes odds fucking dramatically.
4. Find your niche, i.e. what type of women may like you, to further maximize odds (age, race, subgroup)
5. Practice talking to any woman of any age to hone your game. Especially grandmas at the supermarket. Anyone. The more you do it, the better you get, and the more odds of success go up.
6.Develop extreme confidence to accomplish 1-5
A venn diagram of all of the above odds-maximization strategies should tell you something, but I'm too lazy to do it.
Just go for it.
>Be me
>Late bloomer, didn't date at all as teenager
>Start forcing myself to talk to girls at around 23 or 24. Get better at approaching, flirting, and score dates, though still too awkward and autistic to get laid from them
>Eventually work on my dating skills to the point where I can actually manage to get laid
>Eventually notice that the girls I find hottest are less likely to turn into dates when I get their numbers, and that socialmaxxing and dressing well can only get you so far. I have to become hotter.
>Start lifting more seriously to the point where even strangers comment on my physique
>Start dating 18-year-old 9.5 at age of 27
>Should be content with this, but instead I'm just wondering why I can't pull same-night lays at clubs or get a rotation of girls
I know I should just become exclusive with her because she's crazy about me and is objectively great in personality and looks. But after missing out on so much fucking in my early years, it's like I want to get an opportunity to do that before settling down. But I don't know how to become the slayer Chad who can hookup and fuck multiple people at a time. I have a rich social life, lots of friends, I make the effort and put myself out there and talk to women, I go out, I have things going for me, people tend to like me overall, but I can't pull.
I lift for bussy
I press 165, I started taking tren and I was friendly to a girl at work
How come she didn't fuck me, I did everything right
sex is life. why do you think people composed shitty love songs for centuries?
I just don't like gender norms. Even if you can exploit it.
>love is sex
go sex your mader then you fucking incest coomerfag shill chud
none the best songs of the ages mention sex and only modern shit music does
but even modern shit music abides by the rule that sex and love are separate and remain separated in music
dumb fucking music lyriclet
i bet you think romeo and juliet is about underage sex you fucking pedophile
Poetry, art. It's 90% centered on sex since the beginning of time. Even religion is based on sex.
I want to have sex with The Holy Spirit.
Mary did.
i mean what else did they have to write about? its not like they had the internet or good drugs or could travel easily
Because you are letting physical pleasure dictate your identity.
It is wrong to search for validation in others in regards to your desires and reasonings.
Being a tall, skinny white guy with drugs is better. Lifting for pussy is such a cope unless you're obese.
its not, you just gotta know how to close
cue the alec baldwin glengary glenn ross speech. always be closing motherfucker
IST body is an enhancer. it will boosts your appeal and likelihood of getting a girl, but you still have to know how to talk to them without being a total sperg and you have to have opportunities to be around them regularly. you're no doubt better off as a fit guy than a non fit guy however
is 25 too late to start lifting for pussy? I'm balding too if that matters.
No. I'm 33 and still get 20 year olds easily. Girls my age are basically super easy pickings and the few I fuck are completely ok with me sleeping with younger girls too lmao.
do you have hair?
NTA but I'm 32 and got 18-20 year old pussy now that I'm back in college and I still have all my hair (it does help that people tell me I like 25 and that was mostly from my coworkers who knew I had a 4 year degree and military service to my age)
It's only too late if you're in the grave, go for it.
Because twinks are better for fucking
>not boipucci
NGMI
No ones asking about your fetishes fag
You have an entire containment board, go hang out there
>complaining about fetishes when OP posts generic E-girl fetish
but women are worth seeking out.
gays are worth nothing to anyone.
so fucking disgusting and immoral. homosexuality is next to rape as you dont produce replacements and let your nation and race down.
so when you get some, you'll stop?
No, because then you'll stop getting the pussy. Duh.
Lifting for pussy is self-sustaining because you have to keep on doing the thing that earned you something in order to keep it. The girls aren't going to stay if you let yourself get fat and weak.
Imagine her getting BLACKED
Same. I lift for barely legal dicky (16)
If you didn't already get pussy before and still haven't gotten any, if you get rejected at all, it's gonna fuck up your mindset/grindset really bad
People only say "lift for yourself, not for women" because internal motivation + self esteem is usually more effective than external motivation + seeking validation. The idea is that you're more likely to actually continue lifting if you do it for intrinsic reasons, whereas if you do it for others, you'll eventually get demotivated and demoralized and stop going to the gym.
However, if lifting for women is actually proving an effective strategy to keep you going to the gym, then there's absolutely nothing wrong with that. Whatever gets you lifting is good.
I lift to become incredibly powerful and enforce my will on the world. Specifically to make polygamy legal so I can have multiple wives and concubines.
Ultimately then, you lift for pussy.
>bookshelf for twilight and harry potter
Because in the time it takes to dine a hoe just to fuck, I could spend 80-100 dollars to get my dick deepthroated by an escort for one hour. I just lift for myself.
bros finally taking the escort pill
based
They’re expensive, though. I’ve only used Eros. Do you have other places you’d look at?
Because 90% of people who lift for pussy are gymcels, and since you're on IST you are definitely not part of the 10% exception. You go in and do a big lift or try to show off your pump thinking women are watching with their pussies gushing.
Fat (?)
lifting has never helped acquire gf, just be /not-fat/ and mildly interesting.
also for everyone liftin for whamenz, realize that in most cases unless gf is also a chan autist and not a normie, you will inevitably
>spend less time at the gym
>have less time for hobbies
>be spending more money
expect these things to happen or you will eventually be unhappy.
You're lifting for something that has no loyalty to you and is primarily concerned with its own self-interest