For me it would be
Back squat
Close grip bench press
Conventional deadlift
Weighted chin-up and include the bodyweight in the total
Chin-ups are a much better test of strength to go with those other 3 exercises. With the 4 you have, nothing is testing the biceps. May as well throw in chinups to give the biceps some work.
Pull up is highly dependent on bw, seal row is absolute strength
Doesn’t really matter because powerlifting has weight classes anyways.
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I fixed powerlifting
Discuss the implications
>front squat
I don’t agree >close grip bench press
I agree >conventional deadlift
I agree
and as for why I don’t agree with front squat, it’s a pretty technical lift. Powerlifting is supposed to be about brute force. Very simple movements that you can do a lot of weight on.
and this is also a big problem with the sumo deadlift. It’s too technical.
A guy who trains sumo only, who goes to a meet and pulls conventional at the meet, will probably do fine.
A guy who trains conventional only, who goes to a meet and pulls sumo at the meet, will probably bomb.
There is a ton of technique maxxxxing involved with sumo, and for that reason it should be removed. On top of the fact that it’s just stronger than a conventional
For me it would be
Back squat
Close grip bench press
Conventional deadlift
Weighted chin-up and include the bodyweight in the total
Chin-ups are a much better test of strength to go with those other 3 exercises. With the 4 you have, nothing is testing the biceps. May as well throw in chinups to give the biceps some work.
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Doesn’t really matter because powerlifting has weight classes anyways.
[...] >front squat
I don’t agree >close grip bench press
I agree >conventional deadlift
I agree
pullups or chinups in a powerlifting setting would become a "kick.and-land" gimmick
The back squat in powerlifting is so bastardized that it can hardly be called a squat. It's become a posterior chain dominated lift, which makes it redundant since we already have the deadlift.
A front squat is a very pure type of squat and is a better test of pure leg strength.
> inb4 muh upper back strength
Get good
Close grip bench press will automatically remove homosexuals and weaklings that have no triceps that rely on ROM cutting to make any weight move at all.
Sumo just frankly looks gay as fuck and should only be done by women, that's my only reasoning.
In a sport where, given a couple arbitrary rules, the main goal is to lift the most amount of weight, people would find a way to bastardize those as well... which is why, imho, weightlifting is a superior sport in every possible way. You can't cheat locking out a bar over your head from the ground. And this is coming from someone who trains powerlifting
I used to pull conventional but snapped my shit up by being retarded.
Now I have to pull sumo for eternity as punishment.
I just hit 450 on conventional too... I struggle to even get to 4pl8 sumo.
Now it's not so imbalanced 🙂
I think this is what you meant to post
Pull up is highly dependent on bw, seal row is absolute strength
sounds like fatso cope
>Pull up is highly dependent on bw
Yeah so is weight class. If you're going to bloatmax that is the risk you run.
For me it would be
Back squat
Close grip bench press
Conventional deadlift
Weighted chin-up and include the bodyweight in the total
Chin-ups are a much better test of strength to go with those other 3 exercises. With the 4 you have, nothing is testing the biceps. May as well throw in chinups to give the biceps some work.
Doesn’t really matter because powerlifting has weight classes anyways.
>front squat
I don’t agree
>close grip bench press
I agree
>conventional deadlift
I agree
and as for why I don’t agree with front squat, it’s a pretty technical lift. Powerlifting is supposed to be about brute force. Very simple movements that you can do a lot of weight on.
and this is also a big problem with the sumo deadlift. It’s too technical.
A guy who trains sumo only, who goes to a meet and pulls conventional at the meet, will probably do fine.
A guy who trains conventional only, who goes to a meet and pulls sumo at the meet, will probably bomb.
There is a ton of technique maxxxxing involved with sumo, and for that reason it should be removed. On top of the fact that it’s just stronger than a conventional
pullups or chinups in a powerlifting setting would become a "kick.and-land" gimmick
Literally nice
what is it that you fixed, exactly?
The back squat in powerlifting is so bastardized that it can hardly be called a squat. It's become a posterior chain dominated lift, which makes it redundant since we already have the deadlift.
A front squat is a very pure type of squat and is a better test of pure leg strength.
> inb4 muh upper back strength
Get good
Close grip bench press will automatically remove homosexuals and weaklings that have no triceps that rely on ROM cutting to make any weight move at all.
Sumo just frankly looks gay as fuck and should only be done by women, that's my only reasoning.
In a sport where, given a couple arbitrary rules, the main goal is to lift the most amount of weight, people would find a way to bastardize those as well... which is why, imho, weightlifting is a superior sport in every possible way. You can't cheat locking out a bar over your head from the ground. And this is coming from someone who trains powerlifting
How do you cheat a front squat?
> Seal row
based
Powerlifting.
I used to pull conventional but snapped my shit up by being retarded.
Now I have to pull sumo for eternity as punishment.
I just hit 450 on conventional too... I struggle to even get to 4pl8 sumo.
U rly did .well done op
Define close grip
shoulder width
Replace front squats with belt squats, the purest form of squats ever formulated.
Now this I can fuck with actually. That would be pure kino.
t. the tard babbling about technique
Zercher Squat is true strength
The thought of all the powershitters that don't have the mobility to front squat failing miserably at it makes me diamonds.
What is the criteria for a bench to be considered close grip? To you