>with steroids
assuming you already have a solid baseline from lifting natty for a year or two, it’ll probably take about a year of faruding on top of that >without steroids
impossible without top-tier genetics and even then you still won’t look as good as that guy
>To get this physique without steroids
No
>t. Has never lifted a heavy object in his life
post body
Not achievable natty
Retard
You don't need steroids for that physique unless you have really shit genetics, but they'd help you get it faster
with roids? 2 years tops shit diet and routine. natty? 20 years perfect diet and routine.
6 months
>with steroids
assuming you already have a solid baseline from lifting natty for a year or two, it’ll probably take about a year of faruding on top of that
>without steroids
impossible without top-tier genetics and even then you still won’t look as good as that guy
you cant just do steroids from the beginning so you have to atleats work out for like 2 years moderately. Could you do it sooner? Yes. Should you? No.
>without steroids
a month
>with steroids
a week
Guy's roided to the gills just look at those delts
inb4 muh lateral raises
Dumbell bicep curls
this is a retarded metric. of coruse he roids but his delts are not disproportional to his phisique
those shoulders natty? never ever. u can maybe get the rest but with higher bf.
Real life gorilla arms right there
It depends
>with steroids
1 year with good genetics and a strict diet.
2 and a half if you're just fucking around
>no roids
Lol
Everyone saying you need roids to have that aestetic is retarded and should be banned from IST immediately
1-the guy on your pic is a manlet
2-the guy on op pic is way way more bigger leaner vascular and aesthetic
3-you will never look like any of them
>hid his calves
120 years later and we still don't know how to grow the fuckers
I do t get it. It’s just your typical construct Worker in the pic
how manlet is he?
looks shorter than the height of a car
y elves tho
aren't dwarves the garden gnomes?
12-20 years