>lucked out and found a naturally high libido woman.
Anon, it's not luck, it's hell, I can't keep up and cialis is making me feel dizzy and viagra made me see everything in a blue tint.
It 100% works you either are in a new relationship or maybe you just really fucking like sex.
I've been in 2 long term relationships and without fail after the 3rd year I just get tired of sex... albeit both times my partners and I were fucking like 2-4 times a week for the first couple of years so that might have played a role.
try the easypeasymethod, frend. It was the only method that worked for quitting porn for me and my friends. Help yourself, anon, it's not a long read at all and it's worth the read.
Dont know. All i know is if it wasn't terrible for our mind, spirit and body it wouldn't be free, and shoved in our faces by people that can scarcely go 10 mins without expressing their hatred for us.
Once you see it as capitulating to their will, your hatred will overwhelm your lust.
Go and workout or read a book, or do anything that doesn't shame your ancestors.
>for free
Listen I'm onboard against the garden gnome but don't be retarded, it's a billion dollar industry sustained by ads and contracts. The political subversion is just the cherry on top of the shekel.
>for free
Listen I'm onboard against the garden gnome but don't be retarded, it's a billion dollar industry sustained by ads and contracts. The political subversion is just the cherry on top of the shekel.
1. My hatred for (())
2. My love for God
3. My hatred for giving women power over me
That's why I don't coom
Dont know. All i know is if it wasn't terrible for our mind, spirit and body it wouldn't be free, and shoved in our faces by people that can scarcely go 10 mins without expressing their hatred for us.
Once you see it as capitulating to their will, your hatred will overwhelm your lust.
Go and workout or read a book, or do anything that doesn't shame your ancestors.
It's straight from the protocols. >Sensuality worse than all else disorganizes the capacities of the mind and clearness of views, distracting the thoughts to the worst and most brutal side of human activity.
You're on fit, use your brain.
Fine, I know you can't: GO TO THE GYM AND EXHAUST YOURSELF
Whatever arms exercices until you can't even lift a paperclip.
There, problem solved.
Find a reason to why you are quitting, could be anything, if you can't find any then you objectively don't have any reason to quit, makes you feel good, free, can use it whenever you want. But the simple fact that you ask how to Permanently quit means that you know that out there, there is something better right, you know that this shit is killing you and your potential. You just have to find why would you quit this shit.
For me it's religion
I'm at 1 year nofap
Very tough to resist for the first couple of weeks.
Then it gets pretty easy as long as your not a mental moron.
Overall I am much happier not dumping my dopamine on fucked up porn that I only watch because "normal" shit got desensitized.
No, its just that nofap is completely cutting your dick off, while noporn is just the correct thing to do. Everyone should be on noporn, nofap should be reserved for monks and other deeply spiritual people.
this board is filled with porn addicts that call one porn site based over another. retards like
Congrats on killing your libido and manhood i guess, retard.
No, its just that nofap is completely cutting your dick off, while noporn is just the correct thing to do. Everyone should be on noporn, nofap should be reserved for monks and other deeply spiritual people.
Yes, I have experienced increased performance in my sport (wrestling/jiu jitsu)
Overall my mood is much better I feel much more wholesome as a person and have less anxiety. I am fucking my girlfriend instead of chasing a vapid sense of release staring at my phone looking at porn. its worth a shot.
Porn diet is more difficult and painful than doing cold turkey. Your dopamine addiction is a desire for an ever increasing amount of dopamine, not less. So while the cooming still gives you the vicious cycle of craving and sated craving, the diet is stressful because it's not as much as you want. If you stop the vicious cycle, you stop craving and you stop having to stress about how much dopamine you're getting. Cold turkey is a strict upgrade in every respect. Less stress, shorter withdrawal period, and you get your ultimate goal.
For something like food that does, at some level, sustain you, you need a relationship with it that you can stand. For literal poison like pornography you're better off cold turkey.
agree
I tried quitting by allowing cooming via imagination but it just slid from imagining, to erotic literature,then to images, etc.
Because part of the very nature of being aroused is that committing a transgression during the act (breaking your promise to yourself) is itself arousing
I wish I knew, I go in cycles of quitting then relapsing.
Ill not fap for months, with zero interest and then one day I will randomly bust like 4 times in a few hours, then get addicted to porn again.
I wish I could break the cycle. Since getting a work from home job, its got even harder.
I was cooming 24/7 when I was a teenager (13-18 y.o.) but smth clicked at one point in life and it got so incredibly boring that I just naturally stopped :/
Don't rely on self control and willpower. Keep the temptations away from you. For most people, its the phone. Don't bring it to the bathroom or keep it next to the bed. If its the computer, keep the windows open to force yourself to be controlled.
I literally have no idea how to approach women. I've a ISTirgin for most of my life so I share many common interests with the opposite sex. Recently went on a trip and came back with some gusto, but I still spill my spaghetti before even opening my mouth and revert to my old ways.
What's some good hobbies or shit to make small talk that chicks are interested in?
>What's some good hobbies
whatever youre really interested in
girls love men who are passionate about anything, as long as you are genuially passionate
i can hold a 3 hour long monologue on league of legends champion ls mechanics and still smash the same day
my gf always wants to fuck me, always touching my cock or even dry humping me, always impling sexual innuendo when talking to me
it was weird but funny at first, but after two years of relationship is getting kinda annoying, I also occasionally get mad at her for her behaviour
she's 22 and got a very nice body but I really have no will to get laid or sex drive, only want to coom to porn how fucked up am I
I have similar problem, gf would literally have sex 3+ times a day for hours if she could
Often when we have sex, she'll cum multiple times during PIV, then after I finish, she will continue to finger herself and often wants me to finger her again so she can cum again. It's fucking annoying
I feel like if I said anything of that nature she'd get all pissy and embarrassed. I once stopped her from having sex because I wasn't feeling good and she basically ran out of my house because she was so embarrassed.
it's tough, I like other aspects of my Gfs personality so much that I don't want to leave her. And I've had other shorter relationships where our libidos were both really high but where the non-sexual compatibility wasn't there, and I think I prefer being with a girl I really love and getting less sex. My goal is to become less coomer brained so I can just be satisfied with having sex when she wants to (i.e. like once a week-ish). But if it becomes a complete dead bedroom then I don't think it's worth it.
My gf once woke me up in the middle of the night because she was horny. I was pissed af. The only thing in life that makes me uncontrollably angry is when people steal my sleep from me. It literally makes me punch walls and scream. I hatefucked her and went back to sleep.
I had a collection of 3 fleshlights, one of them was expensive. I had the VR headset. I spent maybe $250 on subscriptions. I downloaded nearly 2tb of everything that tickled my fancy at all - I made sure I found a creampie scene of every pornstar I liked. Man I was getting 6 cooms a day every day. It was absolutely a coomer paradise. If you go on pornhub and you get those short, low quality videos, chances are I had the full HD version of it. I had some of the best orgasms money could buy. I still wanted to quit. None of it scratched that itch. I can guarentee to myself that, no matter what new video they make, I'm not going to like it as much as I will being clean and there's no doubt about that. Easy peasy method
>Easy peasy method
Chapter 1-10: Describes the arduous journey of the book's creation
Chapter 11-15: Tells you how fucking awesome the book is
Chapter 16-24: Tells you not to skip chapters
Chapter 25-31: Success stories from following the book's awesome advice
Chapter 32: 1 or 2 pages. The whole reason you started reading the book
>addicted to porn >trying to stop >find book >read book >read each chapter incredibly skeptically >"PAH! I knew it! This is bullshit!" >still addicted to porn
just stop if you want. you can do it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsvYEkTzmGQ
focus on other stuff like working, lifting. you will notice you will have more time and energy for the stuff you care about now that you don't waste it cooming.
delete all porn, remove everything triggering, don't visit IST or if you really have to visit intall the extension "nsfw filter"
maybe give the easy peasy method a read if you want to be more motivated to quit, it works for some people
addiction is an incredibly long process. doomers will say a life long process, but it's not.
it helps to truly feel and think deeply on how it feels, the before and after - how that aligns with your morals. if you hate it enough keep that hate there for whatever it is you're addicted to and focus it on the addiction and not yourself.
when you fall back on an addiction direct the hate towards it, anthropomorphize it if you have to. really make an "other" out of it and slowly but surely you'll start pulling it off yourself and make it separate, like a shadow.
Yes, I have experienced increased performance in my sport (wrestling/jiu jitsu)
Overall my mood is much better I feel much more wholesome as a person and have less anxiety. I am fucking my girlfriend instead of chasing a vapid sense of release staring at my phone looking at porn. its worth a shot.
Dont have to think about porn or fetishes when fucking girl to come
you have to stop browsing IST
it's like a heroin addict hanging out with a bunch of junkies
I had a collection of 3 fleshlights, one of them was expensive. I had the VR headset. I spent maybe $250 on subscriptions. I downloaded nearly 2tb of everything that tickled my fancy at all - I made sure I found a creampie scene of every pornstar I liked. Man I was getting 6 cooms a day every day. It was absolutely a coomer paradise. If you go on pornhub and you get those short, low quality videos, chances are I had the full HD version of it. I had some of the best orgasms money could buy. I still wanted to quit. None of it scratched that itch. I can guarentee to myself that, no matter what new video they make, I'm not going to like it as much as I will being clean and there's no doubt about that. Easy peasy method
Porn diet is more difficult and painful than doing cold turkey. Your dopamine addiction is a desire for an ever increasing amount of dopamine, not less. So while the cooming still gives you the vicious cycle of craving and sated craving, the diet is stressful because it's not as much as you want. If you stop the vicious cycle, you stop craving and you stop having to stress about how much dopamine you're getting. Cold turkey is a strict upgrade in every respect. Less stress, shorter withdrawal period, and you get your ultimate goal.
For something like food that does, at some level, sustain you, you need a relationship with it that you can stand. For literal poison like pornography you're better off cold turkey.
Some genuinely helpful advice in this thread. Thanks guys
That's a false dichotomy. Fap without porn, done. At least 80% and maybe 100% of the benefit of nofap. It's obvious that you should at least successfully quit porn before even considering nofap, but it looks like getting on and off the nofap carousel is like a fetish for some of these guys
Sounds like someone experiencing cognitive dissonance who's getting angry as a defence mechanism to not quit stupid nofap and go pornfree. Did you do an experiment with 60 days pornfree and compare the results with nofap?
Sounds like someone experiencing cognitive dissonance who's getting angry as a defence mechanism to not quit stupid nofap and go pornfree. Did you do an experiment with 60 days pornfree and compare the results with nofap?
There's definitely some good advice on here, and I doubt what I'm saying to you is new advice, but here's my two cents: Restrain yourself in some way physically at first. This doesn't have to be something as extreme as binding your hands when you have free time, it can be something as simple as surrounding yourself at all times with family and friends. For example, I went on vacation with my family and was constantly around them, so I had no time to fap in private. After about 7 days, habits will typically become more malleable, then you can replace them (I'm sure you're aware that you don't really "break" habits, you kinda just swap them out for new ones). I've struggled with this for a while, and I've tried a lot of strategies. You can do this brother, it's definitely a winnable war. Good luck, don't give up, no matter what.
>do nothing but post on IST and look at porn all day >never touch myself
Each and every one of my lifts has gone up 20% after 2 weeks of doing this
I am the king of the retards
>too socially inept and pussy to talk to women >too weak to quit when urges hot at night >still edge every night before feeling guilty then going to sleep
I've been on multi week and month streaks without coming before, but this time it feels like I'm depriving myself of something. God, the flesh is so weak
I met a girl years ago playing vidya and we fell in love, I met her once and we did sexual stuff (but I was too scared to go all the way).
In a month I'm meeting her again, money is not really an issue as I make a lot of it and work freelance from my laptop, but I deffo am addicted to jacking off.
And I was able to preform during our sexual stuff, but it was worrysome because it wasn't easy.
Now I want to go cold turkey, to regain sensitivity in the dick but how?
After a day of not jacking it my mind makes up all sorts of excuses and weasels and goddamn i can never last more than ad ay
Try fasting for a few days to start, that kills libido some, then once you go back to eating you at least are a few days removed from it so it will be easier to continue not masturbating.
>be me >manage to quit porn easily >don't quit masturbation, do it once every few days >am now being told that feeling horny after 2 weeks of nofap is a withdrawal symptom from masturbation addiction
Is there really a point to quitting porn/cooming when you're single?
Every time I tried, the loneliness and horniness got eventually so intense that I couldn't even focus anymore on much else and just wanted to coom, trying to "put myself out there" and meet women resulted in rejection or despair with the state of some of them so I just go back to cooming and go on with my day.
it's cause you're trained to only get aroused from shit on a computer screen, just leave it and when the time comes for you to fuck you'll come around.
Running till exhaustion daily
Lifting daily (this could make you way hornier though)
Talking to girls even if you wont get a gf, will make you think twice about fapping
Fast for 4 days, no joke, your mind will be so clear and programmable you will be able to outthink fapping forever, quit for good, make a deep decision to never do it again
Alcohol, replacing one addiction with another and so on
Work a very long hours job,12 or 14 hours a day
Escorts, just go see one if you cant get a gf every few weeks, will be way healthier than cooming 5 times a day
Jealousy might work, i am an incel and it happened to me hundreds of times where i will be trying to coom and a thought of how much sex everyone is having passed my mind, i had to put my dick down. went months without fapping out of pure hatred for women and sex havers
I get depressed and thinking "how many days of nofap til I can be a normal person" or "how many years of lifting til women will actively like me?" But I just keep on going, self improvement feels like a meme but it does something
I haven’t fapped in over a year
Couple wet dreams
Many prostitute visits
Still have no actual confidence because I’m legitimately socially retarded and consistently crawling in my skin so I alienate everyone I try to talk to but it’s nice to get mired by pretty much every girl I walk past
Castration
Find an exhausting job and a gf.
This
My gf initiates sex more often than me nowadays, and I only ever fap if she's gone and I'm alone on a weekend.
honestly this.
ive tried to stop cooming for almost 9 years now, and the only time i stopped or cut down immensely was when i had a gf
>just get a gf brah
What a magnificent idea
Half the bros on here don't even want to coom with a girl anymore, they've fully convinced themselves that cooming in any manner is bad
I got both and still a coomer, at 30 yo
fuck me, I will never stop I guess
me too anon, I'm 28 working from home and fap a good 2x to 3x a day while gfs at work. hell, used to fap even when I was back in the office.
GF will usually only want to fuck you everyday for the first year Anon. Unless you lucked out and found a naturally high libido woman.
>lucked out and found a naturally high libido woman.
Anon, it's not luck, it's hell, I can't keep up and cialis is making me feel dizzy and viagra made me see everything in a blue tint.
>Be a goyslave to a gynocentrist society
Yeah you couldn't "fap" because you are not a man. Maybe just cut to the chase and transition.
This is where the tactical marriage proposal comes into play to juice out another 6-18 months. Pic related.
Doesnt work for me tbh. My wife and I have had sex everyday this week. Yet, I still feel the need to watch and jerk off. I hate it.
It 100% works you either are in a new relationship or maybe you just really fucking like sex.
I've been in 2 long term relationships and without fail after the 3rd year I just get tired of sex... albeit both times my partners and I were fucking like 2-4 times a week for the first couple of years so that might have played a role.
try the easypeasymethod, frend. It was the only method that worked for quitting porn for me and my friends. Help yourself, anon, it's not a long read at all and it's worth the read.
>Verification not required
>just get a gf
Sure, and while I'm at it why don't I just go find Jimmy Hoffa and the Ark of the Covenant
how do get gf? no girl wants to be in my presence and i am awkward irl
It comes naturally once your hatred for modern society outweighs all other feelings you have.
Is that why I've found myself getting bored of cooming over the last few weeks? I don't really have to try anymore.
Dont know. All i know is if it wasn't terrible for our mind, spirit and body it wouldn't be free, and shoved in our faces by people that can scarcely go 10 mins without expressing their hatred for us.
Once you see it as capitulating to their will, your hatred will overwhelm your lust.
Go and workout or read a book, or do anything that doesn't shame your ancestors.
its because your testosterone levels have plummeted to those of a woman
>watching other men have sex and pleasuring yourself to it with your hand is more high T than getting pussy
you dont get pussy tho
Remember that most porn is owned by garden gnomes. Now ask yourself this question. Why would a garden gnome ever give anything away for free?
>for free
Listen I'm onboard against the garden gnome but don't be retarded, it's a billion dollar industry sustained by ads and contracts. The political subversion is just the cherry on top of the shekel.
It's straight from the protocols.
>Sensuality worse than all else disorganizes the capacities of the mind and clearness of views, distracting the thoughts to the worst and most brutal side of human activity.
look up the easy peasy method
Trannify yourself. Mr. Schekelberg will do it for you if you can’t at home alone.
just stop touching your dick. its really that simple
addicted to meth
just stop taking meth
You're on fit, use your brain.
Fine, I know you can't: GO TO THE GYM AND EXHAUST YOURSELF
Whatever arms exercices until you can't even lift a paperclip.
There, problem solved.
Don't fight a losing battle. You don't. It's human nature. Embrace it.
Find a reason to why you are quitting, could be anything, if you can't find any then you objectively don't have any reason to quit, makes you feel good, free, can use it whenever you want. But the simple fact that you ask how to Permanently quit means that you know that out there, there is something better right, you know that this shit is killing you and your potential. You just have to find why would you quit this shit.
For me it's religion
(Captcha: WHYJW)
1. My hatred for (())
2. My love for God
3. My hatred for giving women power over me
That's why I don't coom
1st one should be love for God, then hatred for (())
I'm at 1 year nofap
Very tough to resist for the first couple of weeks.
Then it gets pretty easy as long as your not a mental moron.
Overall I am much happier not dumping my dopamine on fucked up porn that I only watch because "normal" shit got desensitized.
Do you notice anything different in your social life, physical appearance and sex life?
why don't nofappers ever answer this question?
Dont have to think about porn or fetishes when fucking girl to come
Congrats on killing your libido and manhood i guess, retard.
so is this just a demoralization bot or what?
No, just me literally double posting because IST lagged out or some shit.
No, its just that nofap is completely cutting your dick off, while noporn is just the correct thing to do. Everyone should be on noporn, nofap should be reserved for monks and other deeply spiritual people.
Nothing wrong with wanting to be deeply spiritual.
bignosed moron stfu
this board is filled with porn addicts that call one porn site based over another. retards like
know nothing about what they're saying
Damn right. real men beat their meat to cuck shit, trannies, scat, beastiality, and e-bois 3 times per day at minimum. I’m oozing T
Yes, I have experienced increased performance in my sport (wrestling/jiu jitsu)
Overall my mood is much better I feel much more wholesome as a person and have less anxiety. I am fucking my girlfriend instead of chasing a vapid sense of release staring at my phone looking at porn. its worth a shot.
Listen here morongay
My libido is fine , enjoy zapping your dopamine receptors from watching too much porn just like the rest of the normie gays.
Seek Christ.
Lads I’ve managed to cut down from 2-3 times a day to 1.
Next goal is every second day.
Porn diet is more difficult and painful than doing cold turkey. Your dopamine addiction is a desire for an ever increasing amount of dopamine, not less. So while the cooming still gives you the vicious cycle of craving and sated craving, the diet is stressful because it's not as much as you want. If you stop the vicious cycle, you stop craving and you stop having to stress about how much dopamine you're getting. Cold turkey is a strict upgrade in every respect. Less stress, shorter withdrawal period, and you get your ultimate goal.
For something like food that does, at some level, sustain you, you need a relationship with it that you can stand. For literal poison like pornography you're better off cold turkey.
agree
I tried quitting by allowing cooming via imagination but it just slid from imagining, to erotic literature,then to images, etc.
Because part of the very nature of being aroused is that committing a transgression during the act (breaking your promise to yourself) is itself arousing
I fap I just don't do it on days I work out, it helps me sleep
I wish I knew, I go in cycles of quitting then relapsing.
Ill not fap for months, with zero interest and then one day I will randomly bust like 4 times in a few hours, then get addicted to porn again.
I wish I could break the cycle. Since getting a work from home job, its got even harder.
By stop watching porn.
Have you coomed since posting this thread OP? If no, congrats you’ve already quit. Now just don’t stop the quitting.
get off internet
Reroll your Willpower and Charisma stats.
I was cooming 24/7 when I was a teenager (13-18 y.o.) but smth clicked at one point in life and it got so incredibly boring that I just naturally stopped :/
Don't rely on self control and willpower. Keep the temptations away from you. For most people, its the phone. Don't bring it to the bathroom or keep it next to the bed. If its the computer, keep the windows open to force yourself to be controlled.
get a gf so you can coom in her
I literally have no idea how to approach women. I've a ISTirgin for most of my life so I share many common interests with the opposite sex. Recently went on a trip and came back with some gusto, but I still spill my spaghetti before even opening my mouth and revert to my old ways.
What's some good hobbies or shit to make small talk that chicks are interested in?
>What's some good hobbies
whatever youre really interested in
girls love men who are passionate about anything, as long as you are genuially passionate
i can hold a 3 hour long monologue on league of legends champion ls mechanics and still smash the same day
Fast. Starvation culls libido and hornyness like nothing else.
my gf always wants to fuck me, always touching my cock or even dry humping me, always impling sexual innuendo when talking to me
it was weird but funny at first, but after two years of relationship is getting kinda annoying, I also occasionally get mad at her for her behaviour
she's 22 and got a very nice body but I really have no will to get laid or sex drive, only want to coom to porn how fucked up am I
I have similar problem, gf would literally have sex 3+ times a day for hours if she could
Often when we have sex, she'll cum multiple times during PIV, then after I finish, she will continue to finger herself and often wants me to finger her again so she can cum again. It's fucking annoying
I feel you bro, I literally stopped eating or fingering her pussy since months; I also put the restraint to fuck no more than three times a week
I feel like if I said anything of that nature she'd get all pissy and embarrassed. I once stopped her from having sex because I wasn't feeling good and she basically ran out of my house because she was so embarrassed.
fuck you man I'm happy to get a BJ once a week
t. stuck with a prude
>get a BJ once a week
You lucky dog.
>t. also stuck with a prude
it's tough, I like other aspects of my Gfs personality so much that I don't want to leave her. And I've had other shorter relationships where our libidos were both really high but where the non-sexual compatibility wasn't there, and I think I prefer being with a girl I really love and getting less sex. My goal is to become less coomer brained so I can just be satisfied with having sex when she wants to (i.e. like once a week-ish). But if it becomes a complete dead bedroom then I don't think it's worth it.
My gf once woke me up in the middle of the night because she was horny. I was pissed af. The only thing in life that makes me uncontrollably angry is when people steal my sleep from me. It literally makes me punch walls and scream. I hatefucked her and went back to sleep.
just stop and have will power
I had a collection of 3 fleshlights, one of them was expensive. I had the VR headset. I spent maybe $250 on subscriptions. I downloaded nearly 2tb of everything that tickled my fancy at all - I made sure I found a creampie scene of every pornstar I liked. Man I was getting 6 cooms a day every day. It was absolutely a coomer paradise. If you go on pornhub and you get those short, low quality videos, chances are I had the full HD version of it. I had some of the best orgasms money could buy. I still wanted to quit. None of it scratched that itch. I can guarentee to myself that, no matter what new video they make, I'm not going to like it as much as I will being clean and there's no doubt about that. Easy peasy method
>Easy peasy method
Chapter 1-10: Describes the arduous journey of the book's creation
Chapter 11-15: Tells you how fucking awesome the book is
Chapter 16-24: Tells you not to skip chapters
Chapter 25-31: Success stories from following the book's awesome advice
Chapter 32: 1 or 2 pages. The whole reason you started reading the book
On top of that it's a word for word copy of Alan Carr's easy way to quit smoking with references to smoking replaced by porn and masturbation
>addicted to porn
>trying to stop
>find book
>read book
>read each chapter incredibly skeptically
>"PAH! I knew it! This is bullshit!"
>still addicted to porn
I've successfully quit porn, I just never finished easy peasy shittod
just stop if you want. you can do it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsvYEkTzmGQ
focus on other stuff like working, lifting. you will notice you will have more time and energy for the stuff you care about now that you don't waste it cooming.
delete all porn, remove everything triggering, don't visit IST or if you really have to visit intall the extension "nsfw filter"
maybe give the easy peasy method a read if you want to be more motivated to quit, it works for some people
you will never stop cooming
Fake white chick. She’s Mexican or some shit
>posting le 3d whore
zero. zero power over me.
you have to stop browsing IST
it's like a heroin addict hanging out with a bunch of junkies
I can't. It's necessary, but I can't.
addiction is an incredibly long process. doomers will say a life long process, but it's not.
it helps to truly feel and think deeply on how it feels, the before and after - how that aligns with your morals. if you hate it enough keep that hate there for whatever it is you're addicted to and focus it on the addiction and not yourself.
when you fall back on an addiction direct the hate towards it, anthropomorphize it if you have to. really make an "other" out of it and slowly but surely you'll start pulling it off yourself and make it separate, like a shadow.
Some genuinely helpful advice in this thread. Thanks guys
That's a false dichotomy. Fap without porn, done. At least 80% and maybe 100% of the benefit of nofap. It's obvious that you should at least successfully quit porn before even considering nofap, but it looks like getting on and off the nofap carousel is like a fetish for some of these guys
Fuck off with this cope, both porn and fapping are bad for you.
>fapping is bad for you
Fucking ridiculous. And I'm guessing real sex is magically different because muh oxytocin changes everything
Coomer cope, ngmi.
Explain how.
t.Nick Fuentes.
Keep telling other men what to do with their semen whilst you fap to femboys you fag. We know your kind is the most degenerate.
Sounds like someone experiencing cognitive dissonance who's getting angry as a defence mechanism to not quit stupid nofap and go pornfree. Did you do an experiment with 60 days pornfree and compare the results with nofap?
There's definitely some good advice on here, and I doubt what I'm saying to you is new advice, but here's my two cents: Restrain yourself in some way physically at first. This doesn't have to be something as extreme as binding your hands when you have free time, it can be something as simple as surrounding yourself at all times with family and friends. For example, I went on vacation with my family and was constantly around them, so I had no time to fap in private. After about 7 days, habits will typically become more malleable, then you can replace them (I'm sure you're aware that you don't really "break" habits, you kinda just swap them out for new ones). I've struggled with this for a while, and I've tried a lot of strategies. You can do this brother, it's definitely a winnable war. Good luck, don't give up, no matter what.
>do nothing but post on IST and look at porn all day
>never touch myself
Each and every one of my lifts has gone up 20% after 2 weeks of doing this
I am the king of the retards
Boredom, I need the real thing now. I can only look at it through a screen for so long.
>too socially inept and pussy to talk to women
>too weak to quit when urges hot at night
>still edge every night before feeling guilty then going to sleep
I've been on multi week and month streaks without coming before, but this time it feels like I'm depriving myself of something. God, the flesh is so weak
Just don't do it lol
I met a girl years ago playing vidya and we fell in love, I met her once and we did sexual stuff (but I was too scared to go all the way).
In a month I'm meeting her again, money is not really an issue as I make a lot of it and work freelance from my laptop, but I deffo am addicted to jacking off.
And I was able to preform during our sexual stuff, but it was worrysome because it wasn't easy.
Now I want to go cold turkey, to regain sensitivity in the dick but how?
After a day of not jacking it my mind makes up all sorts of excuses and weasels and goddamn i can never last more than ad ay
Try fasting for a few days to start, that kills libido some, then once you go back to eating you at least are a few days removed from it so it will be easier to continue not masturbating.
It tastes so good though
The first step is to stop.
>sex drive is either nothing or wank tonnes
easy peasy method dot org
>be me
>manage to quit porn easily
>don't quit masturbation, do it once every few days
>am now being told that feeling horny after 2 weeks of nofap is a withdrawal symptom from masturbation addiction
Is there really a point to quitting porn/cooming when you're single?
Every time I tried, the loneliness and horniness got eventually so intense that I couldn't even focus anymore on much else and just wanted to coom, trying to "put myself out there" and meet women resulted in rejection or despair with the state of some of them so I just go back to cooming and go on with my day.
>trying to "put myself out there" and meet women resulted in rejection
That's normal and not an excuse
You masturbate to cope with stress. Daily meditation is the solution.
My sex drive does not increase on nofap, in fact it usually decreases. I already quit porn months ago. Now I just feel like I'm mostly impotent.
it's cause you're trained to only get aroused from shit on a computer screen, just leave it and when the time comes for you to fuck you'll come around.
Running till exhaustion daily
Lifting daily (this could make you way hornier though)
Talking to girls even if you wont get a gf, will make you think twice about fapping
Fast for 4 days, no joke, your mind will be so clear and programmable you will be able to outthink fapping forever, quit for good, make a deep decision to never do it again
Alcohol, replacing one addiction with another and so on
Work a very long hours job,12 or 14 hours a day
Escorts, just go see one if you cant get a gf every few weeks, will be way healthier than cooming 5 times a day
Jealousy might work, i am an incel and it happened to me hundreds of times where i will be trying to coom and a thought of how much sex everyone is having passed my mind, i had to put my dick down. went months without fapping out of pure hatred for women and sex havers
Hate women more and be less gay.
I get depressed and thinking "how many days of nofap til I can be a normal person" or "how many years of lifting til women will actively like me?" But I just keep on going, self improvement feels like a meme but it does something
I haven’t fapped in over a year
Couple wet dreams
Many prostitute visits
Still have no actual confidence because I’m legitimately socially retarded and consistently crawling in my skin so I alienate everyone I try to talk to but it’s nice to get mired by pretty much every girl I walk past