Griffith was a man completely broken down, far beyond the point of being a man and far beyond a point of no return. He was offered a method of escaping his torment, he accepted it at a whim without much regard to the consequences. Would any one of you say you would do any different if you were put in his situation?
The situation was horrible however it wasn't wrong to accept the deal.
guts leaving him when he was the one that he cared about more than his dream is what broke him
he was upset about losing control over casca and guts more than the power to build his kingdom
he only accepted the deal when he saw guts and remembered how he was the one he cared about more than the entire dream pitch from the god hand, not to preserve himself, he didn't want to stack the bodies and the child soldier dying haunted him his entire life up to the eclipse
he did it so he could be in a situation to get revenge on guts which he does by raping casca, he would have done it all before the torture
never believed he cared more about guts at all otherwise he wouldnt go nuts at the eclipse. guts killing that kid in the castle had a lot of part why guts changed and left him. he didnt want to get involved with griffs coming ambition. griff didnt mind using guts for his ends as griffs care for guts relied mainly on usefulness of guts and his control over him.
>to get revenge on guts which he does by raping casca
i wouldn't say it was motivated by revenge. Griffith was a being of pure evil at the time he raped casca. I think he did it simply because it would inflict the most suffering on guts, not in a retaliatory way, just because the opportunity to cause max damage was there and he's an entity of pure evil. Evil be evil, for the sake of it, not out of revenge. Revenge comes from a position of weakness, from under. Griffith was ascendant in a position of power. if that all makes sense.
If Guts would have just told him he just wanted to be a worthy friend instead of fighting him for his freedom it would have been different. He also wouldn’t have slept with the princess ahead of schedule. He might have still been betrayed by incest master but not as soon. The bitterness and rage are justified.
>without much regard to the consequences
Braindead take. He was intensely aware of the consequences and explicitly chose to allow the sacrifice of his friends.
Griffinmaxxing would be like, if every time you entered the gym you had to step on the cock & balls of 2 of your best friends. And you consciously chose to do it in pursuit of the gains.
Bruh, he rapes casca in front of guts. Fairly certain he did more than just "end his torment".
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guts leaving him when he was the one that he cared about more than his dream is what broke him
he was upset about losing control over casca and guts more than the power to build his kingdom
he only accepted the deal when he saw guts and remembered how he was the one he cared about more than the entire dream pitch from the god hand, not to preserve himself, he didn't want to stack the bodies and the child soldier dying haunted him his entire life up to the eclipse
he did it so he could be in a situation to get revenge on guts which he does by raping casca, he would have done it all before the torture
What difference does it make dying trampled by horses and riddle with arrow holes vs being slaughtered by demonic entities?
Furthermore ask yourself WHY Griffith chose to rape casca. Reread the final conversation between Guts and Corkus before the Guts makes his departure. Guts was the one who made Griffith stray from his path. Guts fucked Griffith over first. Remember Griffith isn’t like you and me. He is destined to be the King. Naturally anyone who gets in his way MUST be dealt with. What Griffith did to Guts was just retaliation. As for the Band of The Hawk, they knew what they were signing up for. And ultimately thanks to their sacrifice Griffiths dream came true.
>he accepted it at a whim
Did you not read the manga? He started chanting sacrifice before he was even finished thinking about Guts and the Band. He knew what he was doing.
>tfw can't Griffithmaxx because I don't have a dream >tfw even if I did have a dream don't really have anyone to sacrifice except parents
Guess I'm Guts then, suffermaxxing and copemaxxing...
Unironically the band deserved their fate for leaving their leader to be tortured for a whole year. Griffith did literally nothing wrong. I would have killed my crew too if they left me to be tortured for that long
These soldiers knew what they were signing for. If, for example, Griffith's band was dying little by little through battles their his leader, literally no one would give a shit. But because Berserk got popular, and it's pretty edgy, it draws a literal manchild marvel retards who can only see characters in one dimension. >The character is either bad or good!!! >There is no inbetween >He did everything wrong! >He did nothing wrong!
I hate you, you fucking two-digit IQ subhumans with fried attention span from watching incel tiktoks so much
>Griffith ends up saving the lives of millions from monsters and demons with the conjoining of Humanity and fantasy >Guts has to break this peace to exact his (understandable) desire of revenge
Assuming Griffith doesn’t do more evil shit in the future (which he prob will) is Guts morally right to exact his revenge and clean the man who is now the guardian of most human life left?
>Griffith ends up saving the lives of millions from monsters and demons with the conjoining of Humanity and fantasy
It's all larp my nigga. He brought forth the monsters to cause chaos and terrorise the people, he manufactured the problem in the first place. Hell, he even sends the souls of the departed to the vortex. Falconia is one big samefagging larp
it starts that way and I think we were going to see griffs ambition growing way further and like all good systems his shit becoming corrupted into a nightmare. that said, I kinda thought one of the first stories in the book, before the army stuff, when guts goes to a village and kills the snake monster who is running the town as a tyrannical mayor and keeping everyone in terror was hinting at that. guts is travelling around, having adventures of cutting apostles out of their positions, dismantling griffs corrupt system as he comes closer to facing off griff.
Causality and gay sex
Lift for strength, never hypertrophy. Go for a woman tier skin and hair routine. Have beautiful elfin looks from genetics
Also have a grand idea about the world you believe in, and pursue it over everything else.
>woman tier skin and hair routine
Everyone should do this.
HRT I guess you homosexual
No bulking go full lean mode
also suck a lot of smelly old man cock
do nothing wrong
>I dint du nuffin
The black swordsman
Griffith was a man completely broken down, far beyond the point of being a man and far beyond a point of no return. He was offered a method of escaping his torment, he accepted it at a whim without much regard to the consequences. Would any one of you say you would do any different if you were put in his situation?
The situation was horrible however it wasn't wrong to accept the deal.
Fuck off stupid griffith apologist
Griffith bless you
guts leaving him when he was the one that he cared about more than his dream is what broke him
he was upset about losing control over casca and guts more than the power to build his kingdom
he only accepted the deal when he saw guts and remembered how he was the one he cared about more than the entire dream pitch from the god hand, not to preserve himself, he didn't want to stack the bodies and the child soldier dying haunted him his entire life up to the eclipse
he did it so he could be in a situation to get revenge on guts which he does by raping casca, he would have done it all before the torture
Makes sense. I always wondered why he raped casca
never believed he cared more about guts at all otherwise he wouldnt go nuts at the eclipse. guts killing that kid in the castle had a lot of part why guts changed and left him. he didnt want to get involved with griffs coming ambition. griff didnt mind using guts for his ends as griffs care for guts relied mainly on usefulness of guts and his control over him.
>to get revenge on guts which he does by raping casca
i wouldn't say it was motivated by revenge. Griffith was a being of pure evil at the time he raped casca. I think he did it simply because it would inflict the most suffering on guts, not in a retaliatory way, just because the opportunity to cause max damage was there and he's an entity of pure evil. Evil be evil, for the sake of it, not out of revenge. Revenge comes from a position of weakness, from under. Griffith was ascendant in a position of power. if that all makes sense.
Bruh, he rapes casca in front of guts. Fairly certain he did more than just "end his torment".
If Guts would have just told him he just wanted to be a worthy friend instead of fighting him for his freedom it would have been different. He also wouldn’t have slept with the princess ahead of schedule. He might have still been betrayed by incest master but not as soon. The bitterness and rage are justified.
>without much regard to the consequences
Braindead take. He was intensely aware of the consequences and explicitly chose to allow the sacrifice of his friends.
Griffinmaxxing would be like, if every time you entered the gym you had to step on the cock & balls of 2 of your best friends. And you consciously chose to do it in pursuit of the gains.
What difference does it make dying trampled by horses and riddle with arrow holes vs being slaughtered by demonic entities?
Furthermore ask yourself WHY Griffith chose to rape casca. Reread the final conversation between Guts and Corkus before the Guts makes his departure. Guts was the one who made Griffith stray from his path. Guts fucked Griffith over first. Remember Griffith isn’t like you and me. He is destined to be the King. Naturally anyone who gets in his way MUST be dealt with. What Griffith did to Guts was just retaliation. As for the Band of The Hawk, they knew what they were signing up for. And ultimately thanks to their sacrifice Griffiths dream came true.
I and any other sententious larper who replied to you would within a heartbeat.
>stopping your quest for a kingdom that leads others to death would be unfair to those who died bro
>he accepted it at a whim
Did you not read the manga? He started chanting sacrifice before he was even finished thinking about Guts and the Band. He knew what he was doing.
>tfw can't Griffithmaxx because I don't have a dream
>tfw even if I did have a dream don't really have anyone to sacrifice except parents
Guess I'm Guts then, suffermaxxing and copemaxxing...
you're born perfect like him or not
there's no routine, just alpha demigod genetics
Join a discord server full of troons
I hate Griffith so much it's unreal
Rape and be raped. Sacrifice your crush, and fuck his girl
Be born with dick sucking lips, fair smooth flawless skin, and 10/10 eyes + eyebrows
>grow long hair
>Be very skinny
There. Now you are a gay elf like your gay elf husbandu
3x8 Rape
Sacrifice gutsanon
Rape women. Kill your friends for personal gain. Be extremely homoerotic but not homosexual.
>get fucked in the ass from rich lords to fund your armies
>not gay
Anon?
My bad i forgot about the cheekclapper king. You right he gay af.
>Not homosexual
>30x power bottom
>30x twink
every day
Unironically the band deserved their fate for leaving their leader to be tortured for a whole year. Griffith did literally nothing wrong. I would have killed my crew too if they left me to be tortured for that long
These soldiers knew what they were signing for. If, for example, Griffith's band was dying little by little through battles their his leader, literally no one would give a shit. But because Berserk got popular, and it's pretty edgy, it draws a literal manchild marvel retards who can only see characters in one dimension.
>The character is either bad or good!!!
>There is no inbetween
>He did everything wrong!
>He did nothing wrong!
I hate you, you fucking two-digit IQ subhumans with fried attention span from watching incel tiktoks so much
>what is the vortex of souls
what are you even saying
>dooming humanity to hell is LE MORALLY AMBIGUOUS
Get drawn by a cartoonist
>Griffith ends up saving the lives of millions from monsters and demons with the conjoining of Humanity and fantasy
>Guts has to break this peace to exact his (understandable) desire of revenge
Assuming Griffith doesn’t do more evil shit in the future (which he prob will) is Guts morally right to exact his revenge and clean the man who is now the guardian of most human life left?
>Griffith ends up saving the lives of millions from monsters and demons with the conjoining of Humanity and fantasy
It's all larp my nigga. He brought forth the monsters to cause chaos and terrorise the people, he manufactured the problem in the first place. Hell, he even sends the souls of the departed to the vortex. Falconia is one big samefagging larp
it starts that way and I think we were going to see griffs ambition growing way further and like all good systems his shit becoming corrupted into a nightmare. that said, I kinda thought one of the first stories in the book, before the army stuff, when guts goes to a village and kills the snake monster who is running the town as a tyrannical mayor and keeping everyone in terror was hinting at that. guts is travelling around, having adventures of cutting apostles out of their positions, dismantling griffs corrupt system as he comes closer to facing off griff.
Brag about how you don't have any friends to a girl who likes you.
Anime rots your brain and ruins your gains
Griffiths are born, Guts are made.
They both got it up the ass from a big black for money.
Berserk is literally only good during the Golden Age
Story wise I agree. But motivation wise it gets better during and after conviction. And the art gets even more godly during fantasia
You can tell Miura had no idea what he wanted the manga to be after the eclipse
I didn't care for either of them their both assholes
Who wins in a fist fight, berserkfags or jojofags?
stop eating
play with water with your gymbro in a (not) vaguely homoerotic scenario
also
>mfw I don't have a dream so even if I Griffith maxx it will never be enough
be the most hijo de puta conceived, disregard everything and everyone but yourself
have sex for money