Industry fags got these kiddies wearing all sorts of tight shit now and know it don't look right
But these kids are conditioned to that shit and don't know any better. If you're wide-bodied, don't even dare try wearing slim shit
Homies out here looking like the Grinch stole Christmas
Those aren't tight though I wear what's essentially leggings pretty regularly and it looks fine because I have long slender legs and my shirt covers the bulge.
Or get better fitting pants, these are probably too tight around the waist and/or buttocks, that is why the pockets are popping out and giving you the illusion of a wider hip.
And idk what kind of material these pants are(partly linnen?) but do not rest your hands in the pocket for too long as that will stretch them and further increase the effect of what I wrote above.
Yeah so fucking get a sewing machine and learn how to tailor your own stuff.
For a board of "fashion" enthusiasts, you're so fucking limited in your thinking. At what point does a sheet of material transmute into an object called a pair of pants? Pear shaped retard
>just get an entirely new skill
pfft why didnt i think of that
All Of You Are Retards for engaging in this man's fetish but on a genuine note you should work on building your quads, your legs generally, and wear straight/baggy fit trousers that don't narrow.
this isnt a fetish retard >wear straight/baggy fit trousers that don't narrow
this doesnt doesnt at all work and only makes my legs look like two giant stumps which makes me look even more ridiculous, fatter too
Do not wear those pants for one thing. They're giving off a feminine shape and would even if you didn't have that build.
For you wear straight fit off the rack and straight fit only. If you got the money though, go see a tailor and get measured.
Lower your body fat %. Ik you said you're "a decent weight", but I guarantee you don't have a six pack, and if you were lean enough to have a six pack, it'd be impossible to have noticeably wide hips.
In the meantime, lift. Do upper body lifts to widen your chest, shoulders, and back and make your hips look narrower by comparison. But also do lower body lifts. It may sound counter-intuitive, but nobody will care if you have slightly wide hips/thick thighs if your lower body is actually muscular. Also, if you walk/jog/run a lot, it will give your legs a more athletic look.
Post body fatso, I guarantee you're some flabby skinny fat fuck without a kg of muscle on you and terrible posture to boot. That's why you look like a pear, clothes won't change that whatsoever.
I just live my life and wear baggy tops with tight pants, usually get called a lesbian or mistaken for one a few times a week but that's fine. I don't shave my arms or legs tho so that helps mitigate some of the aggressive types, it gets pretty bad if I'm silky everywhere like you.
I've decided to start hormone replacement this month too because I've been eating and lifting weights really hard and haven't seen any results besides some abs that go away the morning after anyway.
1 month ago
Anonymous
oh you have like some hormone deficiency?
1 month ago
Anonymous
Yeah my test is super low so i've given up and am going to get androgen blockers and estrogen to see if that sends me in a more defined direction because being a guy for all these years hasn't done shit.
1 month ago
Anonymous
oh dude what no i thought u meant testosterone supplements 🙁
1 month ago
Anonymous
Just in case you're serious please don't do that
1 month ago
Anonymous
Why not? I hate being a guy and like the way I look in a pretty dress, don't even care about the sexy stuff just nice things.
1 month ago
Anonymous
i thought we were compatriots bro
in the same trench and all that...
dont give up brother
1 month ago
Anonymous
Completely given up I'm not even going to call myself trans I just want to look like something besides an intersex and I kinda hate the idea of being muscular.
1 month ago
Anonymous
bro dont do this to me
1 month ago
Anonymous
I bet I'm a hyper responder and grow some bouncy milkers that will make everyone go >wtf did that come from?!
1 month ago
Anonymous
>
westfalen
1 month ago
Anonymous
bump
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
https://i.imgur.com/39CsKKC.jpg
i thought we were compatriots bro
in the same trench and all that...
dont give up brother
Completely given up I'm not even going to call myself trans I just want to look like something besides an intersex and I kinda hate the idea of being muscular.
https://i.imgur.com/e7Atnvt.jpg
bro dont do this to me
https://i.imgur.com/SMVIE80.jpg
I bet I'm a hyper responder and grow some bouncy milkers that will make everyone go >wtf did that come from?!
https://i.imgur.com/6QV0xmM.jpg
>
westfalen
got word that one of my bois came out as a tranny. this hits especially hard even though its a joke/hyperbole for you, but it catches the feel im feeling, espcially because he did this on the anniversary of the beer hall putsch.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Wow you seem stupid as fuck, you a mega loser.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
You're right i am a stupid loser and I'm sitting on SwoleShack at 3 am crying because my body is broken.
As expected, a sedentary and effiminate body, product of modernity. You didn't even post a full body pic so we can't see how bad your shoulders look in proportion to your womanly hips.
Do sports if you don't like lifting.
>sedentary and effiminate body, product of modernity
bro you see that scar on my thigh? thats a battle scar rahhh
dont be babbling about some product of modernity
I'd say I'd post some before and afters but the reality of hrt is it takes well over a year to even show anything worth mentioning and that's usually very minor, we'll have long forgotten this conversation by then.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>thats a battle scar rahhh >dude this isnt 2008
Exactly.
Not on but any advice for upping test without pinning or doing any drastic shit? I know some of you guys have some odd diet/herbs/supplement that worked for you
Depends on what your current lifestyle looks like. Don't think of doing anything drastic until you: >sleep at least 8 hours at nighttime, every night on a consistent schedule >are eating sufficient animal fats and proteins >are getting medium to high intensity exercise, at least a few times a week >have a "normal" BMI >are not vitamin D deficient and get regular sun exposure >stop looking at porn, and fap no more than once per week (to your imagination) >only wear 100% cotton (or merino wool) underwear
These steps will fix 90% of men with low T. The other 10% might need to look into TRT.
>only wear 100% cotton (or merino wool) underwear
explain. also nta but should I get tested if i'm in college? does insurance usually cover it?
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
polyester (plastic) leeches into your skin with heat. worst for underwear since your balls get hot
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
good for killing my balls tho
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
Polyester causes static electricity to zap your sperm and make you infertile, Sounds crazy but they did a bunch of experiments on dogs and found that making them wear polyester ball sacks would temporarily sterilize them. I'm not sure if that directly influences t levels but why risk it
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
I wish it'd completely zap my unit and make it fall off.
Unfortunately I have the same body type. A pinch of Klinefelters, high estrogen, sedentary lifestyle makes a perfect concoction resulting in your overall physique.
I exercise effectively non-stop just to look normal. I'm lifting heavy during the day, going on 1-2 hour walks every night, eating right, taking testosterone supplements + estrogen blocks. But the end result is looking like a normal dude who works out once or twice a week. If I stop, my body starts actively fighting against me.
Same here, wider hips and thighs with a more narrow upper body (shoulders are normal though). Its genetic for me, my dad has a similar build.
Gaining a bit of weight/muscle and working out regularly will definitely help. For fits, avoid tight clothes. Suits and jackets work really well for me, they create a more masculine shape and bring more attention to my upper body. But in the end, no one irl besides a few spoiled whores gives a shit if you dont have a perfect body type.
Post your upper body. How does a male have hips this wide with almost zero body hair? You're obviously a femanon wearing men's clothing attempting to troll the gullible.
You're going to make me shave my belly tomorrow and show you some before and afters if you keep it up. I usually don't bother grooming my body hair because it makes my family ask if I'm gay like every chance they get. BTW I'm pretty gay.
Post your upper body. How does a male have hips this wide with almost zero body hair? You're obviously a femanon wearing men's clothing attempting to troll the gullible.
oh it's pear-shapped-anon who was asking for uni fit advice not to long ago. You got the exact same responses in the last thread you posted: wear wider pants and lift...yest here you are again, STILL resisting all our sound advice. At this point, you're either a retard or an attention whore.
also why are like half the posts itt suddenly hidden on my pc?
1 month ago
Anonymous
You have the skin and waist to hip ratio of a woman. Showing your chest will prove you are what you say you are, and people will be more likely to help.
1 month ago
Anonymous
homo
1 month ago
Anonymous
why should you care? i genuinely dont understand what you would get out of it
All this bitching over your shoulders and you post the most airbrushed and ridiculously cut off image where people can’t even give you honest feedback. Except for your weak malnourished appearance.
>bitching over your shoulders
where? >most airbrushed
bitch where >malnourished appearance.
bitch WHERE
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got word that one of my bois came out as a tranny. this hits especially hard even though its a joke/hyperbole for you, but it catches the feel im feeling, espcially because he did this on the anniversary of the beer hall putsch.
Unfortunately I have the same body type. A pinch of Klinefelters, high estrogen, sedentary lifestyle makes a perfect concoction resulting in your overall physique.
I exercise effectively non-stop just to look normal. I'm lifting heavy during the day, going on 1-2 hour walks every night, eating right, taking testosterone supplements + estrogen blocks. But the end result is looking like a normal dude who works out once or twice a week. If I stop, my body starts actively fighting against me.
>want to be a feminine twink >but I'm 6'3, have wide shoulders and narrow hips, a deep voice, a shitload of body hair, and I'm balding in my 20's >meanwhile this thread
IT'S NOT FAIR I SHOULD'VE BEEN YOU GODDAMMIT
You already know the answer. Your body type is already narrow and made even more atrocious by what I can only call 'birthing hips". Hit the gym. No variation of outfit is going to change your frame.
Narrow =/= skinny
You could be carrying a beer gut underneath the baggy top, who knows. Your frame is narrow for sure though and with the effeminate hips that's a death sentence
Why do you try so hard to type like a fucking teenage girl, are you just naturally this much of a homosexual? >omggg u think im skinnyyyyyyyyyyy????????????????? YAAAYYYY!!!!!!
Grown ass fucking man writing this shit out.
Train core and don't neglect transverse plane movements for the obliques, don't neglect lats. Eventually you attain fridge-mode and the hour-glass shape goes away because you filled it with muscle.
All Of You Are Retards for engaging in this man's fetish but on a genuine note you should work on building your quads, your legs generally, and wear straight/baggy fit trousers that don't narrow.
>what it the solution to my problem? >Get's multiple solutions >NOOOO NOOO I DON'T WANT TO DO THAT THAT'S TO HARD
I really hate people like you. There is no answer to your problem. Fell pain for the rest of your life fruity retard
get some baggier fucking pants
Industry fags got these kiddies wearing all sorts of tight shit now and know it don't look right
But these kids are conditioned to that shit and don't know any better. If you're wide-bodied, don't even dare try wearing slim shit
Homies out here looking like the Grinch stole Christmas
Those aren't tight though I wear what's essentially leggings pretty regularly and it looks fine because I have long slender legs and my shirt covers the bulge.
>how do i fix looking like a pear?
>i just have wide hipbones
What do you want to be told exactly?
not this
he needs straight legged pants not baggier pants. that way his hips don’t look large in comparison to the rest of his figure
got to build your shoulders bro
do some ohp (overhead presses)
but my shoulders are pretty wide already
obv not wide enough, hit the gym kiddo.
Or get better fitting pants, these are probably too tight around the waist and/or buttocks, that is why the pockets are popping out and giving you the illusion of a wider hip.
And idk what kind of material these pants are(partly linnen?) but do not rest your hands in the pocket for too long as that will stretch them and further increase the effect of what I wrote above.
>get better fitting pants
those dont exist lmfao
Yeah so fucking get a sewing machine and learn how to tailor your own stuff.
For a board of "fashion" enthusiasts, you're so fucking limited in your thinking. At what point does a sheet of material transmute into an object called a pair of pants? Pear shaped retard
>just get an entirely new skill
pfft why didnt i think of that
this isnt a fetish retard
>wear straight/baggy fit trousers that don't narrow
this doesnt doesnt at all work and only makes my legs look like two giant stumps which makes me look even more ridiculous, fatter too
I Think You Should have a nice day
AOYAR
ITYSKY
is there a point to you capitalizing every word?
>but my shoulders are pretty wide already
You again. No your shoulders aren't already wide. If you had wide shoulders you wouldn't look like a pear.
baggier pants that arent so narrow towards tje bottom
also lift
this anon gets it
That’s just front delts. He should do lat raises and pullovers
>He doesn't OHP for big side and rear delts
Post shoulders
Do not wear those pants for one thing. They're giving off a feminine shape and would even if you didn't have that build.
For you wear straight fit off the rack and straight fit only. If you got the money though, go see a tailor and get measured.
whats straight fit
>straight fit
thats... exactly what im wearing
you need something like this https://www.levi.com/US/en_US/sale/mens-sale/jeans/stay-loose-mens-jeans/p/290370004
dont do this youll look goofy
You're obviously wearing slim fit, look at the thigh to knee area. No other fit does that.
thats just because of my hips
just lift bro
Wear a top that goes past your waist
it does?
bro no shit
People are telling you to lift, but no lifting is going to change that posture. I see no fix, sorry.
posture?
thanks, ill try finding something similar
Bro you got the Klinefelters
Lower your body fat %. Ik you said you're "a decent weight", but I guarantee you don't have a six pack, and if you were lean enough to have a six pack, it'd be impossible to have noticeably wide hips.
In the meantime, lift. Do upper body lifts to widen your chest, shoulders, and back and make your hips look narrower by comparison. But also do lower body lifts. It may sound counter-intuitive, but nobody will care if you have slightly wide hips/thick thighs if your lower body is actually muscular. Also, if you walk/jog/run a lot, it will give your legs a more athletic look.
Post body fatso, I guarantee you're some flabby skinny fat fuck without a kg of muscle on you and terrible posture to boot. That's why you look like a pear, clothes won't change that whatsoever.
im just a little chubby damn dude
bro what the fuck you must have airbrushed this pic no way
what why
how do u deal with it?
>not this
why not?
>What do you want to be told exactly?
idk which clothing to wear for me not to look like shit because of my body
idk what my bf is
I just live my life and wear baggy tops with tight pants, usually get called a lesbian or mistaken for one a few times a week but that's fine. I don't shave my arms or legs tho so that helps mitigate some of the aggressive types, it gets pretty bad if I'm silky everywhere like you.
damn
at least im not the only one ig
I've decided to start hormone replacement this month too because I've been eating and lifting weights really hard and haven't seen any results besides some abs that go away the morning after anyway.
oh you have like some hormone deficiency?
Yeah my test is super low so i've given up and am going to get androgen blockers and estrogen to see if that sends me in a more defined direction because being a guy for all these years hasn't done shit.
oh dude what no i thought u meant testosterone supplements 🙁
Just in case you're serious please don't do that
Why not? I hate being a guy and like the way I look in a pretty dress, don't even care about the sexy stuff just nice things.
i thought we were compatriots bro
in the same trench and all that...
dont give up brother
Completely given up I'm not even going to call myself trans I just want to look like something besides an intersex and I kinda hate the idea of being muscular.
bro dont do this to me
I bet I'm a hyper responder and grow some bouncy milkers that will make everyone go
>wtf did that come from?!
>
westfalen
bump
got word that one of my bois came out as a tranny. this hits especially hard even though its a joke/hyperbole for you, but it catches the feel im feeling, espcially because he did this on the anniversary of the beer hall putsch.
Wow you seem stupid as fuck, you a mega loser.
You're right i am a stupid loser and I'm sitting on SwoleShack at 3 am crying because my body is broken.
>idk what my bf is
You are retarded
You probably are close to 20% or even above that number. No wonder you look fat.
We have pretty much identical bodies lol.
i wanna fuck you bro
must
breed
weaker male
As expected, a sedentary and effiminate body, product of modernity. You didn't even post a full body pic so we can't see how bad your shoulders look in proportion to your womanly hips.
Do sports if you don't like lifting.
>sedentary and effiminate body, product of modernity
bro you see that scar on my thigh? thats a battle scar rahhh
dont be babbling about some product of modernity
>rawr XD
You can't even write aggressively.
>rawr XD
dude this isnt 2008
fuck off
I'd say I'd post some before and afters but the reality of hrt is it takes well over a year to even show anything worth mentioning and that's usually very minor, we'll have long forgotten this conversation by then.
>thats a battle scar rahhh
>dude this isnt 2008
Exactly.
It’s over just be a tranny
Unironically increase your testosterone levels. You have female fat distribution on par with a tranny who takes estrogen.
no i dont
Yeah we do.
yeah you maybe do, you take estrogen ffs
okay sorry
it's still a battle scar though
No not yet I'm starting in a week or two.
Yeah you do. If you had a masculine looking body you wouldn't have all these tranny chasers trying to get dick pics from you
ive just got an unfortunate lower body, my testosterone's all fine
i look pretty masculine from the chest up
Get your levels tested mine was under 150.
how do i do that
endocrinologist
tranny here i wish my hips looked this good
show us your ass bro
Not on but any advice for upping test without pinning or doing any drastic shit? I know some of you guys have some odd diet/herbs/supplement that worked for you
Depends on what your current lifestyle looks like. Don't think of doing anything drastic until you:
>sleep at least 8 hours at nighttime, every night on a consistent schedule
>are eating sufficient animal fats and proteins
>are getting medium to high intensity exercise, at least a few times a week
>have a "normal" BMI
>are not vitamin D deficient and get regular sun exposure
>stop looking at porn, and fap no more than once per week (to your imagination)
>only wear 100% cotton (or merino wool) underwear
These steps will fix 90% of men with low T. The other 10% might need to look into TRT.
>only wear 100% cotton (or merino wool) underwear
explain. also nta but should I get tested if i'm in college? does insurance usually cover it?
polyester (plastic) leeches into your skin with heat. worst for underwear since your balls get hot
good for killing my balls tho
Polyester causes static electricity to zap your sperm and make you infertile, Sounds crazy but they did a bunch of experiments on dogs and found that making them wear polyester ball sacks would temporarily sterilize them. I'm not sure if that directly influences t levels but why risk it
I wish it'd completely zap my unit and make it fall off.
please be in central florida
yurop
too complicated
It's fine you don't need to know but if you ever get curious your gp could probably do it with blood work too.
im not disordered
You sure wanna act like it
I'd follow you into the bathroom
Same here, wider hips and thighs with a more narrow upper body (shoulders are normal though). Its genetic for me, my dad has a similar build.
Gaining a bit of weight/muscle and working out regularly will definitely help. For fits, avoid tight clothes. Suits and jackets work really well for me, they create a more masculine shape and bring more attention to my upper body. But in the end, no one irl besides a few spoiled whores gives a shit if you dont have a perfect body type.
Post your upper body. How does a male have hips this wide with almost zero body hair? You're obviously a femanon wearing men's clothing attempting to troll the gullible.
Which of course is why you're hiding the non-existent bulge.
You're going to make me shave my belly tomorrow and show you some before and afters if you keep it up. I usually don't bother grooming my body hair because it makes my family ask if I'm gay like every chance they get. BTW I'm pretty gay.
fuck you
i do have body hair on my forearms and lower legs
You have to be 18 to post here.
you pass
what? pass what
oh it's pear-shapped-anon who was asking for uni fit advice not to long ago. You got the exact same responses in the last thread you posted: wear wider pants and lift...yest here you are again, STILL resisting all our sound advice. At this point, you're either a retard or an attention whore.
>wear wider pants
that literally just makes my legs look like two giant stumps and draws even more attention to my lower body
so i cant post here if im 19?
There's no way you're a 19 year old biological male with a body like that. Still haven't posted your upper body
why should i?
also why are like half the posts itt suddenly hidden on my pc?
You have the skin and waist to hip ratio of a woman. Showing your chest will prove you are what you say you are, and people will be more likely to help.
homo
why should you care? i genuinely dont understand what you would get out of it
They did in their last thread (though not topless). Honestly it wasn't anymore helpful in figuring out if they are bio male or female.
i fucked a tranny last week that looked identical to this
All this bitching over your shoulders and you post the most airbrushed and ridiculously cut off image where people can’t even give you honest feedback. Except for your weak malnourished appearance.
>bitching over your shoulders
where?
>most airbrushed
bitch where
>malnourished appearance.
bitch WHERE
damn bro my condolences
>inb4 lose weight
What is your BF%?
If you are a male and you are not at least 12% you are way too fat
ur fat distribution is fucked broseph. come join us in /thinspo/ dawg
Take the skeletonpill
Don't wear chinos
Don't wear pants too high
Walk 10km a day
Simple as
>Walk 10km a day
where fucking to???
my uni is like only a 30 minute walk away from me
I also have wide hips. Boxy shirts and jackets help to hide the feminine waist/hip curve. Baggy pants don't hide wide hips very well IMO.
That was a typo he meant to say 20km a day. Africans walk that far every day for water, why can't you?
Wear BLACK or stonewashed BLACK Pants
mr pearie over here lol
🙁
Show cameltoe bro
Unfortunately I have the same body type. A pinch of Klinefelters, high estrogen, sedentary lifestyle makes a perfect concoction resulting in your overall physique.
I exercise effectively non-stop just to look normal. I'm lifting heavy during the day, going on 1-2 hour walks every night, eating right, taking testosterone supplements + estrogen blocks. But the end result is looking like a normal dude who works out once or twice a week. If I stop, my body starts actively fighting against me.
yeah that seems like too much trouble 😐
good on you for managing that though
That's why I'm going off the rails as mentioned earlier nobody knows but me and you.
You look weak and womanly. You look like a pear because that's how your body looks like. Hit the gym and develop some muscle.
Too hard.
I've had better success with low rise than higher.
Train your quads to get that X look
>how do i fix
Buy menswear.
Stop wearing plebswear.
Get clothes that fit you. Your sweatshirt is like 3 sizes too big. Wrinkles on the pants might also be working against you.
Biological female confirmed. Good luck with the advice, anon.
i shall take your comment to be in earnest goodwill, thank you
I forgot to book my drs appt today hope they can fit me in next week when I try on monday.
huh?
I want to get my hrt but got too busy and sidetracked by bullshit.
>decent shape
if you can't squat 200kg EASY then you are not in decent shape
you look like you cant even squat the bar
Grab the angle grinder
wear a belt.
I'd smack your thick ass if I ever saw you.
stop posting garg
who tf is you
>want to be a feminine twink
>but I'm 6'3, have wide shoulders and narrow hips, a deep voice, a shitload of body hair, and I'm balding in my 20's
>meanwhile this thread
IT'S NOT FAIR I SHOULD'VE BEEN YOU GODDAMMIT
sumimasen
>but I'm 6'3, have wide shoulders and narrow hips, a deep voice, a shitload of body hair, and I'm balding in my 20's
wtf
why are you literally me?
You already know the answer. Your body type is already narrow and made even more atrocious by what I can only call 'birthing hips". Hit the gym. No variation of outfit is going to change your frame.
>Your body type is already narrow
omg u think im skinnyyy??
omg yes!!!
Narrow =/= skinny
You could be carrying a beer gut underneath the baggy top, who knows. Your frame is narrow for sure though and with the effeminate hips that's a death sentence
aw over
that anon is right + you have knock knees. hit the gym homosexual kek
what are knock knees?
ur knees naturally go inwards, comes from lack of physical development + low quality footwear
nah i wouldnt say that, i think its just the pants making it look like that
here's a pantless image
Why do you try so hard to type like a fucking teenage girl, are you just naturally this much of a homosexual?
>omggg u think im skinnyyyyyyyyyyy????????????????? YAAAYYYY!!!!!!
Grown ass fucking man writing this shit out.
its a joke bro damn, talk about having a stick up your ass
Train core and don't neglect transverse plane movements for the obliques, don't neglect lats. Eventually you attain fridge-mode and the hour-glass shape goes away because you filled it with muscle.
All Of You Are Retards for engaging in this man's fetish but on a genuine note you should work on building your quads, your legs generally, and wear straight/baggy fit trousers that don't narrow.
>what it the solution to my problem?
>Get's multiple solutions
>NOOOO NOOO I DON'T WANT TO DO THAT THAT'S TO HARD
I really hate people like you. There is no answer to your problem. Fell pain for the rest of your life fruity retard
any solution short of grabbing a bonesaw is not a solution
You Should have a nice day
YSHKY
you got told to work out and tailor your clothes. kys
only the tailor was good advice
and im genuinely considering it
bumping cus OP is cute and to remind him that he's still gonna look like a woman from the waist down cus he refuses to buy straight cut jeans
Fucking hell OP I'm a trans guy and even I don't have hips that wide.
You're not alone OP and i'm not even gay ffs. Also trying to lose weight I just don't how much.
>i'm not even gay ffs.
neither am i?
>I just don't how much.
until you physically cant anymore without actively starving is a pretty good metric
>straight cut jeans
they look weird on me because i always have to buy a couple sizes bigger which means my legs will look like 2 stumps
You look utterly disgusting, do not ever take your shirt off around a woman for their own sake and yours.
Luckily for me your mother enjoys the way I look.
nigga you just fat
Look at that jelly belly. You need to eat less my friend.
Grow your upper body to get a v taper look. Focus on back and shoulders
>buy baggy jeans
>they look terrible because i had to go a few sizes bigger to even be able to get them on
>puts even more emphasis on my lower body
>weight,
it's all about the muscle you stupid homosexual
tryin ohp and lat raises, upright rows too