>Herniates every disk in your spine
>Causes shoulder impingement
>Causes you to pass out due to locking knees and stopping blood flow
>Spends half your energy unracking
It's literally the worst exercise you could do in the gym.
>Herniates every disk in your spine. >Causes shoulder impingement
Seriously. People were talking about deadlifts tweaking your back. Everytime I do OHP my back feels funny. I try my hardest not to lean back and that helps but if I wanted super strict form, then the weight would be too light
>Don't use your back!!
>Okay
>-ACK!
>Don't use your legs!
>Okay
>- ACK!
Theres a good reason why nobody does these and they removed them from the Olympics. They are shit.
Every snatch and clean starts with a deadlift
Too light for what? Time and time again we are told not to egolift.
stop OHPing 100% more than you are capable of
>the weight would be too light
Stop egolifting
>weight would be too light
If you're leaning, it's too heavy. Maybe not for your arms, but definitely for your core. Stop egolifting and focus on form. Better yet, swap the exercise out for a different lift like incline bench until you build your core.
Clench your glutes, tighten core and brace like for every single other lift. You lean back only with thoracic extension, not lower back super extension.
Then you press and get under the bar as soon as it clears your forehead.
>the weight would be too light
You never learned correct form. You are therefore weak in all the positions that doesn't involve a standing incline bench circus act. Yes, you have to reset down to 95lbs or whatever and learn the lift. That is the price for being retarded when you start out.
>Clench your glutes, tighten core and brace like for every single other lift.
>Brain starts to go blank
>ACK!
>You lean back only with thoracic extension
>t1,t2 spinal discs go ACK!
Never injured my back.
I've tweaked my knees, shoulders, wrists, elbows etc. Never lower back, closest I have come is from over-arching on bench kek
>weight would be too light
that's why roidtrannies hate OHP, they are scared of the 20lb plates
Honestly, everything in the gym is dangerous. People try to dance around it by talking about form and technique etc, but lifting heavy shit is inherently dangerous. Every great powerlifter/bodybuilder/strongman probably has more injuries than he/she can fit on a single page of paper.
That said, there's a risk reward ratio that you need to determine for yourself. You can significantly lower the risks by learning good form and technique, doing the proper prehab and rehab movements to build small muscles (for shoulder this is the rotator cuff muscles), and by checking your ego at the door and lifting intelligently. This can allow you to lift more safely for longer and lift heavier. If you want to lift super heavy, there's risk, but for me also a great reward.
So yeah, OHP is a dangerous movement, but there are many ways to make it safer that aren't simply "don't do it". The guy who is hunched over all day with a kyphotic posture and internally rotated shoulders probably shouldn't OHP, but the guy who does rotator cuff work, lots of rows and pullups and has good posture can do OHP with little to no issues for a long time.
>The guy who is hunched over all day with a kyphotic posture and internally rotated shoulders probably shouldn't OHP
This is the guy that SHOULD be OHPing. Lifting fixes basically every posture issue that isnt genetic (as in, obviously if your bones are fused wrong then lifting wont fix that).
OHP, squats and diddlies in particular did so much for my overall shoulder and back health
This is also true for me. Before I started lifting I had a fucked posture, lots of back pains, especially when standing for a long time. Now all those problems are gone
You're right but should he go from sedentary to OHP? With light enough weight, maybe. But like the other poster said, maybe that guy should get into a routine that includes pull-ups and other shoulder movements regularly first, and start OHP once he's gotten some posture and cns improvement from lifts that are easier to learn and perform safely. Not that OHP is oh so hard, just might be step 2 not step 1.
You can do every exercice as a starter as long as the weight is low enough. The issue is that some people like the severe DOMS they get from their first hard workout and then start egolifting afterwards to chase that ‘high’ again.
acute injuries are much much less severe than the lifestyle injuries acrued from poor posture and sedentary lifestyle. Being strong also makes you more impervious to the negative effects of the injuries themselves, for instance a good portion of lifters have a partially herniated disc but they literally dont know and wont find out because the surrounding musculature is so strong it does not continue to bulge.
Compare this to deskjob workers with weak erectors who get a hernia once and walk funny for the rest of their life because they tried to tie their shoes a little too fast.
It's not a big deal to get a minor injury every once in a while, your body has an idea of how to recover and will do so just fine provided the surrounding musculature can support and stabilise your joints through the recovery process, weak people have trouble with this.
Nobody gets through life without ever getting injured, lifting just makes your body deal with it better.
based poster, in 3 years of lifting and cardio worst I got was a pec and groin pull, and a sprained ankle
i would add that statistically, lifting is safer than yoga. it's one of the safest sports, close to walking, curling, and chess.
curling and chess is a joke, but it's safer than yoga for real.
>Herniates every disk in your spine
Less weight, more reps
>Causes shoulder impingement
Use dumbbells with neutral grip
>Causes you to pass out due to locking knees and stopping blood flow
Never happened to me, you must have some issue with your blood pressure
>Spends half your energy unracking
Again fixed by using less weight and more reps
>Never happened to me, you must have some issue with your blood pressure
You've never done heavy ohp you twink. I love getting lightheaded during ohp it's like drug.
fuck dude just don't go stupid heavy and if hypertrophy is what you want do dumbell ohp lol
Maybe don't lock your knees? There is never a time your knees should be locked anyway.
this is the one lift that I've never had any pain or issues with
Doing them seated literally fixes all your problems.
>strict OHP for 8-10
Post shoulders loser. I only do them at 105lbs but with full lockout
>105 lbs
That’s… incredibly weak. You should have 1pl8 with your size
What part about strict didn’t you understand?
>no bouncing reps
>no momentum
>no leg drive
I stop in a rack position for one second before each rep. This is why you fags are crying about muh back
Still very disappointing considering your size. Until you reach 1pl8 then shut up.
>gets mugged
>moves goalposts
Can’t win with these cats.. The shoulders are such a small muscle group you don’t need to destroy them with intensity. I’m sure I could hit 135 for at least a single but I don’t max on any lift.
Post body
this, I love that the bitch stopped posting when you asked for body. Fucking retards ego lifting and then bitching when they get hurt
Not even. Nta but people severely underestimate how hard heavy OHP is. Unless you're a fat fuck OHP is very difficult. 1pl8 OHP is considered the same strength tier as a 2pl8 bench, 3 pl8 squat, and 4 pl8 deadlift. 105 is a completely normal OHP. Would be the same as a 185 bench or a 250 squat or 3pl8 deadlift
I do 1 plate ohp for 5x5 and a 3 plate squat/4 plate dead is much harder. You can get a 1 plate ohp in 3 months or so easily.
My 3x8 OHP was 65lbs when I started this current round of lifting after not lifting for a long time on nov 23rd so I’m pretty happy with a 40lb increase in just over six week
Good gains. You likely started as super spooky skele mode. I was starting at 40kg for reps so that's likely why I hit 60kg soon. But anyways, I personally feel a heavy squat or deadlift takes much more effort.
Push press =/= ohp
Strict military press. No back bend or knees pushing.
Strict military push press, sure
Weird thing to be so jelly about when it's not even impressive.
Yet only two people have posted shoulders, neither of which being (you)
I'm 6'4 and 114kg. Theres not much to see.
Fatty fat fat lard man xD
I'm 6'4. I auto-mog 99% of this board even when fat
I’m 5’11, 170 and I feel fat. You’re obese bro. You can’t mog anybody if you’re fat
I was 15% bf% at that weight a year ago 2 years into lifting, now I'm 20-22% at 90kg (200lbs) (same height as you)
I’m roughly 15% now. Probably push to 180 then cut
I'm 6'8" and press 2pl8 at 12% bodyfat with visible abs, sit down fat manchild
I KNEEL
Now THATS what I call a MOG
It doesn’t really count if you weight double the human weight.
Right. In 3 months of lifting you too can press 135. Here's how!
The ammount of dyel tier lifters here. Zoom zoom
this is true, and I actually did this myself
browsing SwoleShack since day one in the gym already had me groomed for OHP. went from like 30kg x 3 to 60kg OHP in just under 3 months
I deadlift 4 plates for reps before I did 1pl OHP.
>3 months
Yeah maybe if you start out as a fatass, due to how physics works the more you weight the easier OHP'ing becomes because your own lard acts as a counterweight and you need less stabilization and balancing which saps force output.
>Yeah maybe if you start out as a fatass,
Yes I am a fatass 114kg and 193cm tall. For some reason this boggles the mind people in this thread and they can't understand that someone who has only been lifting for 3 months might be out of shape.
I am just saying that the heavier you are, the easier some lifts will be due to how physics works. So progress/starting numbers can't rly be compared in your case vs the average 150-170lbs "normal" guy. No worries bro keep up, that is one of the advantages of weightlifting to lose weight, the big boys already have a leg up on the activity starting out vs running for example.
>heavier you are, the easier some lifts will be due to how physics works
better center of gravity? please explain the logic. i've been eating at a small calorie surplus for 2 years. if you can explain the advantage i'll try bulking, even though i hate being fat. my progress has been slow.
It just means when you ohp you’re like a pyramid instead of an inverse pyramid or a cylinder
A 60kg ohp is not impressive in the slightest. Dyels just moved the goalposts on 2/3/4 by adding the OHP because they were too dyel to even hit 2/3/4.
all of those numbers are cringe
yeah we see
Unless you post shoulders your opinion is worthless
wow thats pretty good, with your shoulder size I'd think you do around 5 reps tops with unloaded bar.
With your penis size I’m surprised you weren’t reassigned at birth. Pretty cool, anon.
>pass out due to locking knees and stopping blood flow
what am i reading
I do it with my arms a bit closer, and instead of knee locking just tigbten your glutes and core wtf or/and add a belt worn higher
I have started OHPing three times a wekk and had no issues so far
Why not just do handstand pushups until failure?
i can't believe people ego lift
imagine the non-thoughts going through the "brain" of a person like that
"ME DO MORE WEIGHT, MORE WEIGHT GOOD RURAAAAAAA"
yeah no wonder some of you retards think the exercise with some of the strictest form is bad
What's up with hid arm angle. Are you supposed to have your elbows over 90degrees on the bar
lifting is literally the safest physical activity and you guys still whine
you can mitigate much of the risk by not being a retard and handling the exercise properly, as well as programming intelligently and warming up, or if you're such a pussy go do your biomechanic guru optimized pussy version of the movement, stop whining about injury in the safest "sport"
oh no I will le snappity my shippidy up from too risky looft nooooo
I do 3x8 OHP with 160lb but my own bw is 220
I train for a long time, but think this is very small number for experienced lifter.
What do you say?
what if i do it outside the gym?
>ohp thread
>lots of opinions but no bodies posted
did 15 sets yesterday btw
>low camera angle to look taller
>barely taller than door handle height
>on toes
lmao
iirc that's the dutch gardeing anon with the ultrawide clavicles who is 6'2"-6'3"
keep coping, door frame is 6'6 and my head almost hits it.
>see decent physique
>feel threatened
>he-hee m-manlet
>also be objectively wrong with the cope
he isn't standing on his toes the difference in colour from floor tiles vs door frame can make it look that way if you have brain damage though which you do
use a belt. brace core hard. squeeze glutes. problem solved
Hasn't injured me and I feel good doing the lift. I lift 135 for 3. If you hate it don't do it, but don't bother me about it, I'm gonna strict press for the rest of my life 🙂
I feel it in my back a little bit but its not because I can't put it up in my arms, its because if I don't lean back a little it puts me off balance, my chin is in the way of the lift so I have to lean slightly to avoid uppercutting myself with the bar.
Keep your back straight instead of trying a standing bench, learn how to breathe and brace your car, and rebreathe at the bottom instead of the top. There you go, safe OHP.
>Herniates every disk in your spine
You have a weak back
>Causes shoulder impingement
You have a weak back
>Causes you to pass out due to locking knees and stopping blood flow
You have a weak back
>Spends half your energy unracking
You have a weak back
Sounds like you have a bad combination of ego lifting and mental retardation. Sad! I however, will continue to enjoy the fruits of the barbell OHP.
I enjoy doing OHP. Anyone doing a 1pl8 OHP is always impressive unlike squats, DL, and bench press.
just mix it with a squat and you're good
i forgot the name
Thrusters iirc
I don’t listen to anybodys opinion unless their either
>a)stronger than me
Or
>b)better looking than I am
why do you post here if you dont know shit about lifting
Anyone else here who OHPs over 200 reading threads like that just get angry? Like so many DYELs here bragging about shit like a 105 OHP and other DYELs praising them and salty DYELs who never even got to a 1pl8 OHP telling other potential earnest new lifters not to do OHP because they hurt themselves doing it like a retard after a life of sitting at a PC.
>noooo beginners should not be allowed to talk about lifting
this is a special thing to get mad over
It's fine if they wanna talk about lifting but they always go around asserting their opinions like they're fact after lifting for a few months and getting horrible numbers. This is how we get threads like this that tell you not to OHP, one of the safest compounds out there. We also get angry little queers on this board who will assume you are lying if you lift more than them because they can't fathom being actually strong. Some DYEL literally told me 200 OHP is impossible the other day because he probably is either mad or gets his information from other DYELs on this board who spread misinformation like that.
I wasn’t bragging about a 105 OHP, my point was that it’s literally the GOAT loft for aesthetics and you don’t even need to be pushing numbers and hurting yourself to look good
Go back
You've never lifted anything heavier than a party size Doritos bag
And here comes the seething DYEL who could never dream of lifting real weight
meds
Dont have shit genes then
Do y'all not engage your glutes when you OHP? I would always get lower back pain like my back was bending backwards until I started engaging my glutes, now no pain, but I did have to lower my weight at first.
people on this retarded ass board are made of fucking paper, keep being a whiny little bitch