I have a good career, money, and i think i can be suave, but i never really worked out consistently until recently and a lot of it is due to be cause i want to look good for whoever i date and I want to be able to smash anyone who takes her smile away to a pulp.
I dunno, but the halo effect is real and when I looked joocy from deadlifting girls talked to me when they never have before but they didn't know that I was actually feel like shitting my pants because I had really bad diarrhea
>joocy from deadlifting
>joocy from deadlifting
Never had a problem with girls irl and lifting didn't make anything better. Tinder always sucked for me tho apparently my photos look angry kek
Lifting is always better than not lifting retard
Did you try taking some photos where you were smiling?
Yea I just look stupid
Lifting helped raping the women
Rape chad gets the digits ONCE AGAIN
Rapebro in the house
I'm still dyel but getting rid of my skinnyfat shit helped with face gains. Now people pretty consistently tell my I'm a good looking guy, though I think they're just being nice
Your a good looking guy anon. I love you.
i attribute this to getting IST. but in january i started doing skin care grooming and dressing myself so that helped too.
>3 different girls straight up asked me out on a date
>1 girl flirting relentlessly, constantly squeezing my bicep and giving me neon signs to ask her out
>1 girl dropping hints but eventually got tired of it and lost interest
what’s the catch you ask?
>i’m mentally ill and still a khv
The catch is you're a pussy. Be bold. Quit being a whiny moron and straight up ask to fuck or go out then increase sexuql flirtation till you fuck.
>be the only fit male in the venue
>men give me nasty looks or grip their gf hands harder.
>women steal looks or stare
>the boldest put-on theatrics to get my attention.
yeah, it works.
it's just a compliment but if you have crazy charisma, intuition, swagger, and a pretty rare genetic makeup it raises your game at another level.
I make some women spasm when they see me by surprise.
How did you guys looksmaxx
lose weight. get fit. skincare. antioxidants. extreme confidence in the way you carry yourself.
>low bf%
>low bf%
>decent tan, or not pale if you will
>fix your hair
>fix your beard
>do something with your eyebrows if you have strong brows
>lift of course
>diet well to fix skin
>get confident and relax your face when interacting with others and actually emote. facial expression matter way, way more than you think and nothing screams insecure more than always having a neutral expression or scowl on your face
>low bf%
>get some decent clothes, nothing fancy just decent fitting regular shit. protip: polo shirts look great if you are IST
>some other shit that is specific to you
>i make some women spasm
i love it when they spill their spaghetti, i think its cute. usually its a waterfall of words saying the most random stuf, avoiding eye contact and smiling constantly.
How do you get that to happen
i had this once, but as soon as i made the connection that she likes me i also spilled my spaghetti
How do you do it
every time when it happened i was very relaxed and acted calm and collected. i didn’t even think of flirting or whatever until i noticed they were spilling spaghetti. i started lifting and grooming myself man, nice haircut with a beard trim and i noticed a lot more mires.
kek i almost did too once, but i just focused on her instead of myself and it made me cool again.
i caught feels hard but i never caught feels in my life before this and never asked a girl out so i didnt know how to bring the subject up. Like i also kept focusing on her and she was telling me things she's worried about for her future and i kept saying things real suave saying things to boost her confidence and esteem and she kept blushing and smiling and i realized i just want to protec that smile more than anything in the world, however i didnt know how to put it into words without sounding creepy. It's kind of hard to go from cool/casual to flirting to me. im just a bad flirt in general.
the worst part is she had the balls to invite me to her place anytime but i was so nervous i told her i have to go lift. i didnt even ask for her number. fucking hate myself forever just reliving this experience.
What are you body stats
5'10 165 ottormode dyel
but i used to be 5'10 125
Retard.
>fucking hate myself forever just reliving this experience.
Good. You literally can't complain about anything when the girl is doing your job of being forward.
can you still contact her
only contact i have is linkedin. i could add her ig but that would be weird imo given the time that passed
Dont be a pussy just do it. Dont overthink and just make some bullshit excuse to contact her.
I am a pussy, wont deny it. I also have very few followers and she has like 1200.
Only fucking zoomers care about that dumb shit. You talked to her already fucking stick your other leg in the door and do it pussy. The fuck is going to. Happen if she says no? YOU'LL BE IN THE SAME BOAT YOU ARE ALREADY IN TALKING ON IST PUSSY. FUCKING DOOOOOOO IT PUSSSY
the more i lifted for women the more i hated them and wanted nothing to do with them. i think lifting is gods convoluted way of teaching us that bitches aint shit because jumping straight to the conclusion is less convincing for some reason
you and me both brother
people on here need to understand that women don't care about you being a big jacked bodybuilder, nor are they really attracted to it. The redpill is that the only people who are into your big bodybuilder physique is gay dudes, and women aren't attracted to you past ottermode really. Bodybuilding is like owning a motorcycle; you think it will be a massive chick magnet but in the end only dudes turn their heads as you go by. It is a 100% outdated expectation from like the fucking 1970s and 80s that if you get huge and jacked, you'll get the girl... this was true once gen x came around with their indie cynicism about that kind of masculinity, it was true of millennials who read woke criticism and became disillusioned with muscle masculinity, and it's especially true of zoomers who probably get more pussy than you for dressing up like a maid on tiktok or being a twiggy androgynous goofy guy with broccoli hair.
Also, it's also just a fucking pathetic attempt to make up for not having a good personality and interests. So fucking vain and superficial, literally just be yourself and enjoy doing things and talk to women about them and the things they like doing. Don't get me wrong--- if you have a great personality AND a great body through being a disciplined lifter and exerciser, it certainly can't hurt. But it's pathetic to witness how full this board is of guys who think it will fix their problems of having a shit personality and terrible life priorities
I'm in it for getting guys
i think i have a good personality. i have a lot of eccentric interests that hooks people up.
i just feel insecure about not being in the best shape i can be and it makes me feel like i should be my best self before looking for girls
I dated a girl who would outright say she liked skinny, feminine guys. How she behaved during sex once I got fitter and had bicep veins and shit was literally walking directly back over that whether she realized it or not
this is also what i experienced but like previous guy said, ottormode is kind of peak attraction for younger girls. older girls might like bulkier guys. too much bulk obviously looks worse
You are aware.
Massive cope. You don't need to be some roided freak, but the majority of women love athletic looking guys. They might say they don't, but when you are IST you will see how they react
Being athletically fit won't fix your broken personality and fucked life decisions. It might convince a woman to give you a shot, but as soon as she realizes who you actually are she's not going to stick around. You might get to smash strange slightly more frequently, but your relationships will be strings of 2 to 4 month long affairs in which some girl/woman who was initially interested in you realizes you're a loser - a process you'll get to watch in real time as she stops laughing at your jokes and starts finding everything you do annoying and then finally starts sighing and making excuses. And that shit kills you harder than being alone - realizing you're the fucking problem and there's nothing that can be done about it because you won't change, not that you can't but that you know you're too lazy and scared to change who you are even if you changed your lifestyle and got fit.
You're completely wrong. You have no idea what makes someone actually want you. Not topically, not just enough lust for them to want to fuck you - actually want you and love you. A nice body won't keep a woman around unless she's dependent on you, and women don't have to be dependent on men anymore.
yaaap yaaap yaaap
you sound damaged
Not really true if the muscle fits you.
If somebody has been attractive and then gets buffer it strongly increases his sexual market value - no matter if f@ggots or women... they want to bed a juicy steak.
>lifting won’t get you girls
>having genuine interests and hobbies will get you girls
What do you think lifting is retard
otter mode is not easy to obtain
>I have a good career, money,
Once again, the first way IST guy describes himself is, above all else, career and money. You guys are so funny.
Anon.
You were supposed to LOSE weight.
You became obese chasing PR lifts.
You will die alone.
I tried to warn you, Anon.
I'm sorry.
It's over.
>Has lifting to get the girl ever worked?
No.
/thread
If its not working then you can just get a hooker. They will love your body and obviously your money too. Easy peasy dicky happy.
>dicky happy
What about my heart, anon?
Yes. I am a complete autist when it comes to women. I lifted, improved my life (and consequently confidence) and looksmaxed for so long women literally throw themselves at me when I go out to bars/clubs/festivals. Being athletic also does wonders for your face if you get to a low bf%.
You can always just lift and kidnap her so lifting helps
>Has lifting to get the girl ever worked?
>the girl
no, but you could get a girl
yes, i can attribute all of my girlfriends to being attracted to my shredded body. I also have a 6.5/10 face so that helps
My brief foray with 350mg tren/wk convinced me that the key to unrestrained mired from women is some combination of pathological confidence, a propensity for confrontation and violence, and extreme extroversion. I was a manic paranoid retard for 8 weeks until the sleep issues from going hypo at night made me drop it
>I'm talking to a haircut lady about random BS while she's cutting her hair, joking around, were the only ones there. She sighs and leans her chin on my head, then wraps her arms around my shoulders. I sit there silently until she starts cutting my hair again
>The women at yoga are super friendly and helpful joking about how I don't look like someone who would do yoga
>Zoomer girls at the gym follow me around deliberately obstructing my circuit
>Women hop on the treadmill or elliptical next to me in a row of empty ones. My wife usually comes over to talk to me when this happens
>at yoga
What does doing yoga bring you? I personally do a kung fu routine I memorized from the time I tried to do martial arts for flexibility, and I'm curious about going to yoga classes and perhaps hitting on the women there.
I was fulltime telework at the time and wanted something semi-social that would get me out of the house. I also wanted to work on my flexibility which is still shitty. I quit after 3 months because it was too much of a time commitment for what I got out of it. I have to think it'd be a great place to meet women, though. Almost all of the members were women and most were young and attractive
Good post.
Women just say nice / tame / correct things to fit in - in reality they mostly work on instincts and are pretty raw.
Still feel like a dyel (depending on how my body dysmorphia is) but I’ve noticed girls coming up to me or just hovering around me, I’ve also had girls go dumb when I walk past them. I’m like only 5 months into lifting.
Also I had some autistic girl squeal in delight when I walked past her at the mall, so that’s cool.
Gym guys everywhere always get very upset when they're confronted with any indication that most girls don't actually like anything more than ottermode. Sure, there's a niche who love swole guys, but for the most part it's the male parallel to the girls who cake their face in makeup and wear enormous eyelashes. The bodybuilder look is genuinely offputting to a lot of girls.
Guys choose to focus on lifting because it has a very clear effort to outcome link. Social skills, being likable, interesting to talk to, etc. are much more murky and hard to have control over. Telling them that the thing they think they can control isn't actually doing them many favors (past a certain point) and you really disturb them.
Wrong.
This cute half Asian(I think) girl with nice legs and a very nice butt walks across the gym to use the squat rack next to me every time.
Is she into me? I might try using a different rack and see if I get the same result.
She’s so pretty bros.
could be, if you use her looking then I would say so. Pay close attention to mirrors/look from the corner of your eye some of them will try to not get caught.
Went to the gym after I posted this. She was flirting with a moron. I guess I was wrong.
You know she can be into multiple men right? Retard
its not to get "the girl" its to elevate your value to "the girls" overall and improve your physical and mental chances of finding a mate. a show of literal fitness only in the genetic variety between the lines. you should also praise a god and grow food in however small or large a quantity you can afford in space
My gf told me I look like a jojo's part 2 character shortly before I asked her out, maybe that had something to do with her saying yes
Right now my female friend who I should've locked down when I could've is getting fucking railed at a party by some rich 6'2 dude. I'm not at the party because im overworked and so fucking tired. I want to kill myself so fucking bad. Why does it hurt so much
Former fat ass when I was in school. Girls would never give me the time of day, but after lifting I've had girls literally come up to me and ask me out.
I fucking hate it.
I realized how shallow and empty women really are and I still mentally can't handle a relationship because deep down I still see myself as the fat kid.
It's a special kind of hell.
Lifting for your tinder profile is dumb
You finally make it you fall in love with some slut and waste all you time with her and Lose your gains
Lifting as a married man is amazing I'm literally just trying to be a Greek God so I hate myself less that's it women are the ultimate gainz goblin worse than alcohol