>doing bicep curls with heavy weight
>5 reps with 18kg dumbbells
>left shoulder starts hurting
>constant 1/10 ache for days now
wtf. come on now.
will doing concentration curls alleviate this problem?
>doing bicep curls with heavy weight. >5 reps with 18kg dumbbells. >left shoulder starts hurting
Shitty form
95% of people at the gym do curls wrong
Well apparently my right side has no shitty form because right shoulder doesn't hurt.
But yes you are right, you need a science degree like Athlean X to perform curls correctly
>DON'T do this
>Le do this instead!
>Powered by Science (tm)
>install all car wheels with only 1 bolt
>1 wheel falls off
oh i guess the others are fine since only this one fell off!
Oh shitt the "explain me like i'm five" science crew strikes againnn!
guarantee your physique is shit. Form is extremely important
Maybe your shoulders aren't getting injured from the bicep curls. They're getting injured from something else and are only hurting when you're doing curls.
You can't do bicep curls shit enough to get injured, technique wise. You can get injured if you overload without recovering from your training properly, but that's not a matter of form, or a lack of. That being said perfect form is better for stimulation, Bicep curls are fucking easy, there is no reason to not have perfect form on them.
Also 5rm for bicep curls retard ape? Try ending the 20-30 rep range if you want them to grow without getting shoulder pain.
If you want to train biceps heavy, you can get that done during heavy weighted chins.
Thanks man, your post makes a lot of sense.
When i do unweighted chins, my shoulder starts hurting in the same spot by the 8th rep.
I also do other curl variations in the higher rep ranges, but doing the low-rep heavy work has been extremely effective and rewarding over the last month or two
You're doing heavy curls for 5 reps? That's literally the opposite of what you should do. Do neck rope extension to failure
Stfu, you ever-dyel moron.
i started doing curls with 16kg and i could only do 3 reps 1 month ago. now i can do 12.
Settle down. What are your goals? Do you want to look big? Then sets of 5 biceps curls are the wrong way to go. Lower the weight, stop injuring yourself, do more reps.
For now my goals are bicep strength. I can probably already eek out 2-3 reps with 20kg dumbbells, but i wanna do first 5, then 8 reps with 20kg with no cheating.
But before all that: 8-10 reps with 18kg dumbbells.
I'm really thinking concentration curls are the way to go because they seem to take shoulders out of the equation
>Asks for advice
>Gets upset when people tell you how to improve
Stop being such a fucking gay dude, if you want big arms, you need to do lower weight and focus on time under tension. There's plenty of stick arms that can curl 135 with a barbell.
If your shoulder hurts from doing a biceps isolation exercise you should understand that something is wrong. It's not about how much weight you can "curl", it's about stimulating the biceps to grow. Most people go to heavy and end up doing a retarded bent-arm front raise instead of a curl.
When I was younger I was an absolute stick and would always try to curl as much as possible. I was curling 20kgs for 12 reps but still had shitty biceps. When I bumped it down to 8kg and started focusing on the mind muscle connection my arms started growing.
Picrel, I'm not the biggest guy out there, but having 16'5-17" arms at a lean 200lbs natty is pretty decent.
If you want big arms, do lighter weight, focus on time under tension (the set should last atleast 45 seconds of constant tension on the muscle), and focus on letting the contraction, squeeze the bicep at the top of the rep, 2 second eccentric, and let the muscle stretch at the bottom of the rep.
>8kg curls
>Mind muscle connection
....
>natty
Ahahahahahahhaha
Nice demoralization attempt and way to out yourself as completely clueless.
If you're doing 5 reps with 18kg and hurting your fucking shoulder over it 8kg would be a perfect weight for you.
You can laugh and attempt to make fun of others all you want but if you want to get serious you need to leave your ego at the door and LOWER THE WEIGHT.
Same reason why people whine about lateral raises on this board daily, it's because they use too much weight and cheat with momentum, make 0 gains and then hurt themselves lol.
>LOWAR
>THA
>WEIGHT
Literally you IRL
140lb DYEL thinking he is a big man because he can curl 18kgs with shit form
Was exactly the same for me. I had been able to curl 20+ kg DBs for clean reps for years already but my arms were shit. They grew the most once I started curling light weight again with a very similar approach you chose.
Hmmm it's as if you already had all the strength you needed and blew up as soon as you started focusing on hypertrophy. Hmmm!Kinda proves the point that you need the strength to begin with.
I can and did curl 20kgs in the hypertrophy range too but I still choose to use lighter weight now for similar volume, it's the execution that has changed and proven to be more important for me.
This is now an arms thread post arms
No matter how strong your mind-muscle link is, 8 kg won't do much to help you expand your ceps.
Progressively overload is crucial weight
>t. Preacher curls 22kg x 8
I recognize that drop pod NERD
you type like a teenage and/or gay
kys at your earliest convenience
I'm 35 with with a wife and kid.
So no. Not a teenager and not a gay.
Your characterisation of me was so catastrophically off the mark, i think it is you who should consider offing yourself
>started doing curls with a weight i can only lift for 3 reps
why you would say this and think that it makes you sound knowledgeable is beyond me, you’re absolutely clueless
Succeed in taking a "heavy" weight to medium rep range in just a month
>Nooooooo ur doin it wrong noooooo
>Scienceman on garden gnometube said it's le wronggg
kys please 🙂
Yeah don't listen to the dyels. Try 1rep max curls for even faster bizep gains
Surely you jest.
But you have nice dubs, so i went ahead and did it.
>20kg is my 2rep max on right side and 1rm on left side.
By the end of the month I'll be doing at least 5 quality reps with the 20 >:D
8====D ~~~~
That's how you get stronger though like
said. Gotta push yourself and progressively overload. You can't stay on the 12s forever if you wanna get swole arms.
>t. Curls 20kg dumbbells for 8 reps, 16" arms
I had shoulder pain for weeks, maybe months, after hurting it with ohp. Every time I thought maybe it was getting better, I tried to ohp again and it would come back. Then one day (I don't know why it took me so long to try this) I decided to bring the weight all the way down to the bar and very very gradually bring the weight up. For some reason this immediately cured the problem and I've had absolutely zero pain since. Take from this what you will.
Take your shoulders away from the lift.
Switch to preacher curl with lighter weight + stronger squeeze + longer time under tension. Add in incline hammer curls with lighter weight.
Otherwise if you want to get stronger on that lift, switch to barbell / ez bar curls and lean on a wall - keep your elbows against the wall throughout the lift.
Thanks dude. I keep meaning to incorporate incline (hammer)curls into my routine.
Preacher curls i do already with 10kg dumbbells (also drop sets).
The ez bar is something I'd need to purchase first. But I'm guessing the elbow to wall technique is something i could also do with dumbbells?
>bicep curls with heavy weight
>18kg dumbbells
How many dumbbells? 2 in each hand?
>36kg in each hand
Haha, not yet bro, but soon!
No. Rest will. Don’t lock your shoulder in place when you curl, give it a bit of rotation.
t. Curls 22.7(50 lb) kg for 8 reps
I think you're right bro. Like the other anon said (
) the shoulder injury is coming from elsewhere and just getting triggered when my curl form breaks down.
I'll give it a rest like you said
(I should mention that i have a home gym and that i do a set of curls every few hours)
It's probably because you can't handle that much weight yet with your weaker side so your shoulder is doing some of the work. Keep your elbows still when curling and lower the weight if you have to
> weaker side
> Keep your elbows still when curling
Yep.
Concentration curls it is.
once when benching with a wide grip my biceps tendon slipped out of the groove. I heard just a click. no pain. Just annoying pain 1/10 later for 2 weeks. Looked up what the fuck. Turns out it can roll out.
But you can rill it back in. It's a common injury and there is a plenty of videos how to roll bicep tendon back in the grove. I did it myself.
Just try it, cuz it might be the case.
Wtf! Spooky!
But it's my shoulder that hurts not my bicep.
I guess I recruit my front delts on my last reps of curls, so the pre existing shoulder pain becomes apparent
Yeah it's weird. That's why i made this thread
>Doing curls
>Shoulder pain
Wtf !! :-/
look it up. One of your bicep tendons goes right below delts. The long one. You need to roll it back in if I'm right. Bicep actualy works like a stabilizer for the shoulders. This is why it was working during my bench.
nothing really spooky. Just stay away from heavy weight. You will find lots of videos on exercises to make this tendon stronger.
maybe it's in right place and it's just tendonitis. in such case just rest for 2 weeks. You will feel if it's in the right place. You can grab it if it's not.
Dude you're a legend. This might actually be it!
I hope it will be fine. I also did some massage of my delt for better recovery. After a month i was benching again and never had any issues it. But never benched with wide grip (you should not bench as powelifters as they all have biceps tendonitis and often have such injury, I would say even that pulling back shoulder during bench is stupid. Scapula should move in the direction of the force, like naturally when you do push-ups). Just get back to your usual weights slowly and be careful.
Wish you the best of luck!
Awwww yeaaahh
Doing the first stretch from the second video
Really nice videos!
THUMB UP from me!
Wasn't aware of either channel. So thnx again!
Yeah it was the frigging bench to blame.
I've been benching quite heavy lately and also not doing any of the bench variations.
Ok. So deload, rest up, start with close grip bench, do other variations
I've never had any arm pain doing bb curls, hammer curls, and concentration curls.
Bros what's considered heavy in bicep curls ??
I would consider a 1pl8 curl really good. For bodybuilding purposes you probably never get to a point where you really need to curl more than 55lbs dumbbells.
A weight you can't curl 8 times
Stop curling heavy, slow negatives in the 10-20 rep range will be better for biceps and other isolation arm exercises.
> Muh strength for isolation.
Plain retarded, you don't have enough "recovery points" if you do 24/7 strength work, which should only be done on compounds.