For me, no. It's like says. You suffer for a bit, and then revel in the endorphins and gains. One thing I'd like to point out is that in addition to how strenous the exercise is, it's more mentally demanding than cardio because even if you use safeties, a huge weight on your shoulders make you scared of not finishing the rep. This is both good (builds mental toughness) and bad ("oh shit I gotta finish the rep no matter what" instead of dropping it on the safeties can result in injury).
I'm rambling but basically, squats are never easy and they shouldn't be. You have to "respect" the exercise.
after something north of 13 years of lifting I gotta say this exercise is not really worth the hassle
fucks your lower back over time (unavoidable), grows mostly quads and has to be supplemented anyway, causes a lot of mental stress
poor risk/reward ratio, I gave up on it after 8 years and always regretted not doing it sooner.
call me names and do what you want but I can almost guarantee you'll eventually feel stupid about being so stubborn, it might take some time, but it will happen
>grows mostly quads
This is my main gripe. It's barely a compound lift when performed upright. Most people naturally have overdeveloped quads anyway.
I do high rep ATG squats to target my VMO still, but I don't make it my primary leg day lift anymore.
No compound movement is good at developing the hamstrings. Most heavy deadlifters still have dogshit weak hamstrings. You want strong hamstrings, curl and go for high elevation gain hikes which nuke your calves as well. If you aren't getting development in your glutes it is definitely not a problem of uprightness though. For instance, being upright while biking is known to be better for glute activation.
>grows mostly quads
This is my main gripe. It's barely a compound lift when performed upright. Most people naturally have overdeveloped quads anyway.
I do high rep ATG squats to target my VMO still, but I don't make it my primary leg day lift anymore.
No compound movement is good at developing the hamstrings. Most heavy deadlifters still have dogshit weak hamstrings. You want strong hamstrings, curl and go for high elevation gain hikes which nuke your calves as well. If you aren't getting development in your glutes it is definitely not a problem of uprightness though. For instance, being upright while biking is known to be better for glute activation.
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call me names and do what you want but I can almost guarantee you'll eventually feel stupid about being so stubborn, it might take some time, but it will happen
>try to act like an expert/intellectual >posts no body to go along his bs
thank god i learned enough common sense to never take dyel tools like this guy seriously
Most people squat way too much weight not necessarily in that their muscles are too weak to squat the weight, but they have incorrect movement patterns which takes way too much load off their muscles and shifts it over to joints, bones, discs, and other parts of your body not designed for it.
I hate people who won't stop droning on about muh form because in most cases it's drivel but for squatting, you will fuck your shit up with bad form. Even if not immediately, the wear and tear to your joints will be significant over time.
You NEED to work on flexibility and stabilizers of areas that are left largely withered by the modern lifestyle of sitting on a couch 9 hours a day. Ankles, hips, upper back, wrists, even your fucking neck all need to be strong and flexible enough.
For this reason I agree with you, most people should stay the fuck away from squatting. Thanks for reading my blog.
try sumo squat. I do regular high bar squats, narrow stance squats, and sumo squats. I don't like the high bar or narrow stance, but do them for quad work. Sumo though, it's fun and it builds ass
When I went to a powerlifting gym it seemed like the equipped lifters had fun with it. Raw it's fucking awful always and the people into raw squatting are all (sq)autists.
Bro’s why is it so mentally exhausting? I sometimes get under the bar and get cold feet and need to rest another minute or so to get the balls to do that squat. It’s fucking terrifying.
I fucking love squats. Leg day is unironically my favorite day. Thankfully, my wackass genes prevent me from going t-rex mode while still moving tons of weight (375lb at 150 lbs bodyweight). Yes, I do have correct depth, my friend is extremely picky about proper depth and berates me if I don't reach it.
Nah, fuck it -- after a herniated disc, I started doing a pussy leg workout and my legs are at an all-time aesthetic peak
>Smith machine box squats (8-12) >Glute bridges on smith (8-12) >Seated calf raises on smith (12-15) >Seated leg curl (8-12) >Leg extension (one leg at a time, 8-12)
Im not sure whether I should do barbell squats or machine hack squats for my leg day. Hack squats feel much better but everyone says barbell is better for total leg mass.
'Total leg mass' nonsense comes from powerlifters shaped like bowling balls. Unless you want to look like that, ignore their advice.
Plenty of pro bodybuilders do hack squats in place of barbell squats -- and if anything, is better for building muscle in that your cardio/lower back/core will never be what causes failure. Just make sure you're doing ample hamstring work for balanced legs -- RDLs & leg curls are enough.
hack squats are really good, especially for quads. they are basically front squats. however, i find them to be kind of hard on the knees, so i just do front squats instead
Thanks, was on the fence about it. Going to the gym smash the shit out of my legs right now.
hack squats are really good, especially for quads. they are basically front squats. however, i find them to be kind of hard on the knees, so i just do front squats instead
Hated this shit but I think I found a calling in 20 rep squats, progressing 5lb each time. If I can't do 20 reps at a certain point, I drop down to 15 and continue from there
No, the fun comes after when you're tired and out of breath and feel almost drunk with exhaustion
Literally no other lift tires out the whole body like squats do
It becomes fun when you start ego lifting tbh. Downside is you'll probably get sloppy with your form and injure yourself while chasing highs from superheavy sets.
Yeah when you stop being a pussy
Only AtG
No, it gives a sensation similar to intense cardio where you feel amazing afterwards though
For me, no. It's like says. You suffer for a bit, and then revel in the endorphins and gains. One thing I'd like to point out is that in addition to how strenous the exercise is, it's more mentally demanding than cardio because even if you use safeties, a huge weight on your shoulders make you scared of not finishing the rep. This is both good (builds mental toughness) and bad ("oh shit I gotta finish the rep no matter what" instead of dropping it on the safeties can result in injury).
I'm rambling but basically, squats are never easy and they shouldn't be. You have to "respect" the exercise.
Practicing walk outs with a heavy weight and practicing bailing properly by dumping the bar and jumping forwards helps alleviate this.
Absolutely not
It's fun for 10 plus reps. I do sets of 10 on my light squat day. Fahves and less just hurt.
after something north of 13 years of lifting I gotta say this exercise is not really worth the hassle
fucks your lower back over time (unavoidable), grows mostly quads and has to be supplemented anyway, causes a lot of mental stress
poor risk/reward ratio, I gave up on it after 8 years and always regretted not doing it sooner.
There is one thing Rip is right about, if you don't squat you're a pussy. Case in point this post.
I love Rip even when I disagree with him, God bless that man.
call me names and do what you want but I can almost guarantee you'll eventually feel stupid about being so stubborn, it might take some time, but it will happen
So what do you do instead for legs?
weak.
>grows mostly quads
This is my main gripe. It's barely a compound lift when performed upright. Most people naturally have overdeveloped quads anyway.
I do high rep ATG squats to target my VMO still, but I don't make it my primary leg day lift anymore.
>what is low-bar wide-stance squat?
No compound movement is good at developing the hamstrings. Most heavy deadlifters still have dogshit weak hamstrings. You want strong hamstrings, curl and go for high elevation gain hikes which nuke your calves as well. If you aren't getting development in your glutes it is definitely not a problem of uprightness though. For instance, being upright while biking is known to be better for glute activation.
Post legs
Got you
It's certainly not for everyone, especially if your body isn't built for it from the get-go:
Cool video thanks
>try to act like an expert/intellectual
>posts no body to go along his bs
thank god i learned enough common sense to never take dyel tools like this guy seriously
they hated him because he told them the truth
Most people squat way too much weight not necessarily in that their muscles are too weak to squat the weight, but they have incorrect movement patterns which takes way too much load off their muscles and shifts it over to joints, bones, discs, and other parts of your body not designed for it.
I hate people who won't stop droning on about muh form because in most cases it's drivel but for squatting, you will fuck your shit up with bad form. Even if not immediately, the wear and tear to your joints will be significant over time.
You NEED to work on flexibility and stabilizers of areas that are left largely withered by the modern lifestyle of sitting on a couch 9 hours a day. Ankles, hips, upper back, wrists, even your fucking neck all need to be strong and flexible enough.
For this reason I agree with you, most people should stay the fuck away from squatting. Thanks for reading my blog.
>mental stress
point to where the squat touched you, anon
shoo shoo gains goblin
try sumo squat. I do regular high bar squats, narrow stance squats, and sumo squats. I don't like the high bar or narrow stance, but do them for quad work. Sumo though, it's fun and it builds ass
Maybe just get a bigger squat plug, silly
It only gets scarier and harder
Yes if you are a strong warrior spirit. It’s by far my favorite exercise.
When I went to a powerlifting gym it seemed like the equipped lifters had fun with it. Raw it's fucking awful always and the people into raw squatting are all (sq)autists.
Exercise is never fun, it's work.
Yes, once you finish the set.
Bro’s why is it so mentally exhausting? I sometimes get under the bar and get cold feet and need to rest another minute or so to get the balls to do that squat. It’s fucking terrifying.
It's a bit like sticking things in your ass.
You need to warm up first and it hurts but after a while it feels great.
less gay than squats
I have a good range of motion on it so I enjoy it a lot. Especially on lower rep ranges.
I fucking love squats. Leg day is unironically my favorite day. Thankfully, my wackass genes prevent me from going t-rex mode while still moving tons of weight (375lb at 150 lbs bodyweight). Yes, I do have correct depth, my friend is extremely picky about proper depth and berates me if I don't reach it.
>Leg day is unironically my favorite day.
Red flag. Leaving 5+ reps in the tank and applauding yourself for "hard work"
When you're doing heavy triples, yes
Nah, fuck it -- after a herniated disc, I started doing a pussy leg workout and my legs are at an all-time aesthetic peak
>Smith machine box squats (8-12)
>Glute bridges on smith (8-12)
>Seated calf raises on smith (12-15)
>Seated leg curl (8-12)
>Leg extension (one leg at a time, 8-12)
When you start doing the 20 rep squat routine
It's the funnest exercise after deadlifts 🙂
Im not sure whether I should do barbell squats or machine hack squats for my leg day. Hack squats feel much better but everyone says barbell is better for total leg mass.
'Total leg mass' nonsense comes from powerlifters shaped like bowling balls. Unless you want to look like that, ignore their advice.
Plenty of pro bodybuilders do hack squats in place of barbell squats -- and if anything, is better for building muscle in that your cardio/lower back/core will never be what causes failure. Just make sure you're doing ample hamstring work for balanced legs -- RDLs & leg curls are enough.
Thanks, was on the fence about it. Going to the gym smash the shit out of my legs right now.
hack squats are really good, especially for quads. they are basically front squats. however, i find them to be kind of hard on the knees, so i just do front squats instead
I'm too pussy to go beyond 2pl8, its enough for me. ATG and high reps
Hated this shit but I think I found a calling in 20 rep squats, progressing 5lb each time. If I can't do 20 reps at a certain point, I drop down to 15 and continue from there
Wait wait wait… are squats not enough for glutes?
It's kinda fun when you get to the point where sets don't feel insanely hard, you make relatively steady progress, and you no longer get DOMs
Yes, when you stop doing it.
No, the fun comes after when you're tired and out of breath and feel almost drunk with exhaustion
Literally no other lift tires out the whole body like squats do
The lift doesn't get more fun. You just become less of a pussy.
It gets harder the stronger you get imo.
On days where I dont squat I dont feel like I really worked out.
It becomes fun when you start ego lifting tbh. Downside is you'll probably get sloppy with your form and injure yourself while chasing highs from superheavy sets.