>does nothing while taking all credit of muscle growth for shoulders caused by shoulder presses
>does nothing while taking all credit of muscle growth for shoulders caused by shoulder presses
>does nothing while taking all credit of muscle growth for shoulders caused by shoulder presses
I still think you do them for total side delt development but you have to really use mind muscle connection
front and side delts are differently trained
this is why we do cleansand jerks in my crossfit class. Hits all heads of the delt and gives you gains. I can do a plate now
where can I acquire clean sand
You keep making this fucking thread with different exercises. It's time to stop.
>straight arms
>spine perpendicular with floor
flies and raises are different exercises that work different parts of the shoulder
nigga what are you talking about
I don't really do overhead presses
We can tell
Yeah you can tell by the fact my lateral delt is proportionally developed
but what's your stack
Pump + lighting + manlet
I actually did do ohp prior to that picture though kek. First time in who knows how long though.
that's fair
>not doing Y raise
>not doing leaning lat raises
>not doing myoreps or drop sets
ngmi
You aren't doing them right I do them with light weight after pressing heavy and am making gains that I wouldn't otherwise I think.
Stop doing any OHP and only do lateral raises, and make sure you progress the lateral raise and see what happens to your shoulders. Take pictures, measurements, write down working set and reps in log. Do this for 8-12 months. Then you will know
Nobody has the time for that just ask someone on an imageboard instead
Serious question but for shoulder development should I stop doing seated dumbbell press 4x12 twice a week and swap one of those to lateral raises? I also do barbell ohp 4x12 once a week and I'm face pulling 3x a week.
Sooo this would be my weekly shoulder work
1x a week
>ohp 4x12
>dumbbell press 4x12
>lateral raises 4x12
3x a week
>face pulls 4x12
Is once a week too little for lateral raises?
fuck ohp
do db presses twice a week and lateral raises 3x a week
No, add in extra dips.
>3x a week
>>face pulls 4x12
most overrated shit exercise of all time what a waste.
The tiktok zoomers are right when they say to spam lateral raises. Side delts are small and can recover quickly.
How about (You) actually go to the gym?
>actually grows your lateral delts
>keeps them even with the front delts that were grown by the bench press
>meanwhile the ohp never did anything and only went up when your bench press did
Where were you when you realized that the ohp was superfluous and inferior?
>Bench goes up when OHP goes up
>"NOOO! THEY'RE THE SAME BUT THEY'RE NOT THE SAME!"
They're the same except the bench has a much bigger range of progression and less finicky form technicalities. I respect good pressers but they could be working smarter.
Whoever keeps saying OHP / Bench carry over to each other and help each other, you're retarded, just look at every powershitter, most of them have 1 plate ohps for 4 plate benches, when most bodybuilders have 1-1.5 ohps with 2-2.5 benches
Kek what “bodybuilders” have 2-2.5pl8 benches? Do you mean recreational lifter DYELs?
Post body next to doorknob
You first DYEL
This guy actually thinks that he lifts less than someone because he's bigger.
I heard that’s it OHP helps with bench but not the other way around
Why do bodybuilderes seethe so much when you tell them Lateral Raises are shit?
Why do powersharters seethe so much when you tell them Back Squats are shit?
I do upright rows and hit all the deltoids at the same time