Freeweight rowing always feels like shit to me. Like i'm training everything BUT my back.
Are you going to the gym? Personally, i just stick to pullups/chinups for vertical and for cables/machine(preferably supported, so you can't cheat) for horizontal pulling.
unironically this.
i've been through physical rehab, i've had professional trainers, i've done x, y, and z.
My back is very strong, but fuck me I never feel any activation in my back. I always feel every other muscle and the back just sort of does it on its own.
I have no idea if it's because I did a lot of climbing as a kid or what, I just don't feel activation.
Take you knee off of the bench, place both feet on the floor but bend over and put a hand on the bench for support.
Then, take something around 5kgs and squeeze your lats to bring the weight up.
Do 15-20 reps. If you still can't feel it, give up.
Most guys who fail at lat rows are pulling with their biceps, not squeezing with their lats and trying to row 20+kgs.
I switched from dumbbell rows with a bench to simply just doing the dumbbell rows against the dumbbell rack like pic related and it’s like a night and day difference, much more ROM aswell, and you can get into more comfortable position because no bench in the way
Don't do shitty excercises just because they are "classics" OP. The only reason to do a dumbbell row is if you don't have access to cables for some reason. If you have a landmine attachment doing a meadows row is also far far better.
Starting from the bottom, let the weight hang down all the way until its almost in front of you, then draw a quarter circle with your elbow going in an arc around the body. Even doing it without any weights you'll feel the stretch and contraction
>Lighter weight >Hold for a 2 count squeeze at the top of the movement >Let the weight dangle for 2 count at the bottom of the movement with a complete stretch (I mean complete, not just arm extension, just let it dead hang stretching your entire back)
I switched from dumbbell rows with a bench to simply just doing the dumbbell rows against the dumbbell rack like pic related and it’s like a night and day difference, much more ROM aswell, and you can get into more comfortable position because no bench in the way
Why do you have to be resting on something? I don't get it.
Does seem like bait as your not resting on anything but putting you body at an optimal angle to get the greatest rom possible out of the movement.
Not bait, I do it free standing.
And what's wrong with having your lower back support the weight? You know your back was actually made to work together. Do you guys pick up heavy boxes off the floor bracing against something and making sure the the wrong muscles in your back don't get involved?
i keep my lats tensed the entire workout. the most tension is at the BOTTOM of the lift (when the db is near the floor), and then i squeeze the lat to bring it back. it's fine to use momentum, just remember that squeeze at the bottom of the movement
I used to have the same issue, but I started doing upright close grip pulley rows. If you want to feel more in your lats or traps you need to move the weight with the muscles and not with your bicep. That's the biggest issue newbie lifters make. At the peak of the rep your lats and traps should be squeezed.
Freeweight rowing always feels like shit to me. Like i'm training everything BUT my back.
Are you going to the gym? Personally, i just stick to pullups/chinups for vertical and for cables/machine(preferably supported, so you can't cheat) for horizontal pulling.
unironically this.
i've been through physical rehab, i've had professional trainers, i've done x, y, and z.
My back is very strong, but fuck me I never feel any activation in my back. I always feel every other muscle and the back just sort of does it on its own.
I have no idea if it's because I did a lot of climbing as a kid or what, I just don't feel activation.
Just do one handed cable rows on the low row machine. 20x better
>I can't feel a shit on my lats
Neither can I but my lats keep getting bigger so I know they're working
Instead of pulling straight up, push it back little towards the butt. Still prefer t bar row.
Take you knee off of the bench, place both feet on the floor but bend over and put a hand on the bench for support.
Then, take something around 5kgs and squeeze your lats to bring the weight up.
Do 15-20 reps. If you still can't feel it, give up.
Most guys who fail at lat rows are pulling with their biceps, not squeezing with their lats and trying to row 20+kgs.
Free weight back exercises are a meme
Do them standing and bent over. You'll feel the stretch the entire length of your lat.
Your welcome.
I switched from dumbbell rows with a bench to simply just doing the dumbbell rows against the dumbbell rack like pic related and it’s like a night and day difference, much more ROM aswell, and you can get into more comfortable position because no bench in the way
Its called 3 point row and u can still use the bench, just dont put ur leg on it
If you blocked the rack at my gym you would get your skull caved in
I use them more as a middle back exercise
Pause at the top for a count of two
try chest supported. it helped me isolate my lats.
now i can activate them on barbell, bent over dumbbell, and cable rows.
Pull with your Elbow not your bicep. Don't even extend your arm all the way down at the bottom just keep it fixed.
This is the correct answer. Pretend your forearm and hands are just hooks attached to the elbow, and concentrate on pulling with your elbow and back.
Both feet on the floor, lower weight and pull towards your belly button with as little momentum as possible.
Pull towards your lat, retards
I just do different pull-up variations and pic related for lats.
Don't do shitty excercises just because they are "classics" OP. The only reason to do a dumbbell row is if you don't have access to cables for some reason. If you have a landmine attachment doing a meadows row is also far far better.
do straight arm pulldowns at the beginning of your back workout. pick a moderate weight and do slow, controlled reps.
Starting from the bottom, let the weight hang down all the way until its almost in front of you, then draw a quarter circle with your elbow going in an arc around the body. Even doing it without any weights you'll feel the stretch and contraction
>Lighter weight
>Hold for a 2 count squeeze at the top of the movement
>Let the weight dangle for 2 count at the bottom of the movement with a complete stretch (I mean complete, not just arm extension, just let it dead hang stretching your entire back)
Report back your success.
Just pull with your back
Thank you all for the replies buddies, I'll check them out
>Any alternative or tips?
Yeah, grow a pair of balls and do pullups
I just stand up and rest my hand on the bench, i.e. kroc rows
Why do you have to be resting on something? I don't get it.
Bait, but it takes weight of the back and can get into a more bent position
Not bait, I do it free standing.
And what's wrong with having your lower back support the weight? You know your back was actually made to work together. Do you guys pick up heavy boxes off the floor bracing against something and making sure the the wrong muscles in your back don't get involved?
Does seem like bait as your not resting on anything but putting you body at an optimal angle to get the greatest rom possible out of the movement.
Cable lat pushdowns were the first exercise to ever give me lat DOMs.
i keep my lats tensed the entire workout. the most tension is at the BOTTOM of the lift (when the db is near the floor), and then i squeeze the lat to bring it back. it's fine to use momentum, just remember that squeeze at the bottom of the movement
I used to have the same issue, but I started doing upright close grip pulley rows. If you want to feel more in your lats or traps you need to move the weight with the muscles and not with your bicep. That's the biggest issue newbie lifters make. At the peak of the rep your lats and traps should be squeezed.
Works for me