>BJJ
>Boxing
What do I choose? They're from the same gym and is legit from what I can tell.
>t. poorfag that can only afford one
>BJJ. >Boxing
>BJJ
>Boxing
What do I choose? They're from the same gym and is legit from what I can tell.
>t. poorfag that can only afford one
Boxing
Why so?
Striking comes first and foremost in a fight. It also teaches you timing, distance management, all the most important stuff for fights
between two guys that only know one of the two, the BJJ guy wins 9 times out of 10
just do some pilates or yoga to work out your thighs ass and legs. really helps out when you transition, poor people are not meant to be anything other than fuckholes for the rich so make sure you pass. I'm going to enjoy using you little slut.
Do boxing first. It'll be better for self defense and you'll see progression in skill faster
BJJ vs Boxing? Assuming both fighters are of same weight and have been training for half a year
both trained by the average gym of their respective sport? I'd give it to a boxer -if- he can land a good hit and keep his distance. they're a lot more evenly matched then people think but judo and wrestling mog both.
>boxing or bjj to practice
boxing. better discipline and footwork.
how common are Judo gyms? And do you think it'd be a good discipline for a tall recovering fat ass?
olympic judo? relatively common but with restricted movesets and no groundwork or leg grabs. if you find a judo place near you, make sure it's got a good foundation for newaza and doesn't ban moves or follow olympic judos rules. and yeah, it's good for most anyone tbh.
Grappling beats striking 90% of the time
>citation required
Literally watch ufc you dumb fuck
not him but even with the rules that give an advantage to BJJ, it's still regular wrestling that dominates the sport.
Wrestling is grappling brainlet
If both a boxer and a bjj practicioner of similar weight/strength trained for a year and had to fight then the grappler would win more times than not. That being said, boxing is a less complicated martial art and will give you a good foundation of coordination. The fact that you'll see progress faster will help get you addicted to fighting/training to fight so you can commit to learning a grappling martial art. Besides, you will want to learn both at some point if you're focusing on self-defense or general fighting ability. If you just want a hobby then I would say bjj to avoid possible brain damage.
BJJ, almost all fights go to the ground.
bjj. good luck knocking out someone in one hit this isn't vidya or the movies. once a bjj guy has both of his hands on you it's over unless you know how to defend against grappling.
There's plenty of street fight videos where one of the fighters who clearly has some kind of boxing training literally ends it with one punch
Boxing. Bjj is for fags and women.
depends on how much IQ you want to lose mostly
Is this an actual concern for someone who won't train to go pro?
In most boxing gyms, yeah
no, don't spar hard. do light sparring and you'll be fine
headguards and padded gloves will not reduce force transferred significantly
Most boxers are brickhead types, almost all boxing gyms will lead to some manner of IQ loss, which will be greater than for wrestling. It depends on what you are doing for your life, for a construction worker that side effect is largely negligible while for an academic grappling is a no-brainer choice when it comes to picking up a martial art
You can just go and do practise training for free at both courses tho and judge for yourself how the injury rate is in either, testing a gym for free for a few weeks is absolutely normal
Headgear increases brain injury rate you fucking mong.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Headgear_(martial_arts)#:~:text=Boxing%20Headgear%20will%20reduce%20the,in%20the%202016%20Summer%20Olympics.
if you want effectiveness in almost all 1v1 situations, BJJ for the obvious reason that pure grapplers will usually beat pure strikers. its said to death but see early MMA and how grapplers dominated.
if you already know grappling and find striking more fun and want an aesthetic lean boxers body, then boxing.
>inb4 bjjfag
bjj is fun but its not even my favourite, judo is my favourite, but even then i wouldnt wank it as the best MA to learn for absolute effectiveness in all situations.
if you want to get good enough to defend yourself, youre going to have to spar, and the harder you spar the better you get but the more likely you get injured. otherwise if youre just doing drills which is glorified cardio. in boxing, sparring means that you're going to get tagged in the head a couple of times, and if you get knocked out or concussed in a spar that is permanent brain damage. Judo has a similar problem because throws can result in concussions if you dont fall properly, but its easily safer than sparring in boxing, which is why boxers dont spar hard a lot compared to grapplers
headguards doesnt protect your brain it protects your face against cuts. if your head is shaking and moving violently your brain is compromised.
if only there was some way of reducing percussion to your head as you box. something like heavier gloves or headguards or something
That does nothing but create a false sense of security. The reason olympic boxing got rid of headgear is that it doesn't protect against brain trauma at all
believe it or not, in any quality gym when you're practice sparing you're not trying to knock the other person out
and any gay trying to put fucks in the hospital is getting thrown out on the spot
Heavier gloves just mean that you can hit harder without having to worry about breaking your hand. It's even worse for brain trauma because it encourages hard punches to the skull that would otherwise fracture your hand. That's one of the reasons boxing has significantly more cases of cte compared to mma
Gloves protect your opponent from broken bones and cuts. Wraps protect your hands.
Or just moving your head out of the way.
Gloves make transferring force into the head more efficient, and by protecting the puncher's hand, gloves allow you to punch harder and in places in the head you otherwise couldn't without breaking your hand
> Couldn't.
Unless you were conditioning your wrist and knuckles with iron fist training or striking softly enough to just rock them back a bit instead of giving a potential concussion.
>oh no not muh 2 neurons!
You're not using them anyways
>street fight
>boxer gets a knock down
>BJJ guy puts boxer in guard
>tries to set up triangle or arm bar
>boxer stands up and slams BJJ guy repeatedly
>BJJ guy tells boxer that's against the ru-ACK
>BJJ guy hooks boxers leg with his arm, boxer can't pick him up
>Triangle choke
>ACK
>boxer literally juts his leg out like a sprawl like any human would naturally react to that
>grabs BJJ guy's wrist
>picks him up and slams him repeatedly on the concrete
>"STOP SLAMMI- ACK"
**IF** you get to mount, yes you will win. What happens if the boxer maintains distance after the knockdown though? And don't act like a large number of BJJ guys practice takedowns. Every pure BJJ gym i've gone to started on ground when rolling.
>boxer sprawls his leg while being put in a triangle/armbar
>thus losing his foundation of strength on the ground
>which guarantees the submission and worse, makes it impossible for him to lift the dude from guard.
you either did not think this through or have never been put through a leg triangle/armbar from guard in your life.
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you just have to break the grip on the hook once using leg strength and then grab that wrist (the other way around would actually be easier) and then go for the slam
what is this screenshot supposed to show? if you have your legs far enough for bjj guy to not be able to grab, then your legs are too far from bjj guy to lift. and if you jut the leg to remove the grip, youre eventually going to have to bring the leg back closer to lift, in which case he can just grab your leg again. unless of course youre telling me that you can deadlift 160-180 lbs with one of your leg jutted out.
if you want to pick an image that shows off your point about guard being shit because of risk of slamming, you might want to pick one where the top dude carrying the bottom dude isnt in the tightest leg triangle thats just about to finish, and where the top guy can actually lift the bottom dude from the ground.
slamming is an issue in bjj, but its an issue where a grappler in guard is going up against another grappler who knows how to defend against the guard. if its that easy to slam, then literally every ADCC bjj match or MMA match will end in a slam once someone gets on guard, because they are legal there.
grab & restrain his hooking hand by the wrist, break grip with leg strength and restraining hand, and slam BJJ guy is what i'm trying to say
this is not a 10 minute process, this is like a 20-30 second process
you have no idea what you're talking about. do you have any idea how much leverage you can get on someone when you have your entire bodyweight hanging from their neck? I doubt you train boxing or BJJ.
the trick is to go to a gym that offers other martial arts beside bjj, because they teach mma specific bjj, which includes drilling high percentage wrestling takedowns
which is most likely what the OP is getting offered given that the same gym offers boxing and bjj
>boxer gets put in guard
>tries to set up triangle or arm bar
>he succeeds because boxer doesnt know shit on the ground
>if he doesnt then he gets sweeped and mounted
the only thing that doesnt happen is the boxer standing up from the ground because bjj guy will grab the dudes legs and take boxer down again, and because carrying a dude with shit leverage like in grappling is almost impossible without grappling experience yourself. odds are boxer wouldnt even know to get in his feet instead of staying on his knees on guard.
i find it funny just like how grapplers fantasize that they can dodge all strikers and take them down without effort, strikers will fanrasize about how all their shots will knock a grappler out and that they can just bullshit their way out of a shitty position on the ground.
>BJJ guy puts boxer in guard
>gets his head kicked in by the boxers buddies
real fights are 99% of the time not 1v1s
if you're on the ground in a street fight its over
please explain how triangle chokes and arm bars are successful in MMA where slamming is legal
It's called underhooking the leg on the triangle so they can't lift you and setting up the arm bar from the top so you have them pinned to the floor.
i imagine getting slammed on concrete would be a bit more detrimental than in a ring
>opponent is tyson fury
>heh, I'm sure to win because of my superior grappling and mastery of the fulcrum choke
fag-grapple is for actual retardigrades that whine boxing is not "real" enough, it's ten times more street effective
I would say go to BJJ and practice wrestling takedowns. In BJJ. you are able to go all out compared to boxing. People may state that you'll be slammed in guard. However, if you are fighting an average person you shouldn't have a problem staying on mount or side control. plus, once you get someone in a choke or lock they won't know what to do.
Just do MMA. It is the best
anyone have the version of this where jesus says "now we're talking" instead
Bjj if you want to have fun and do a sport that you can enjoy all your life and always learn something new.
Boxing if you want brain damage.
OP here, I just found out about their MMA package:
>Mon: BJJ
>Wed: Boxing/MT
>Fri: Wrestling/Cond.
This is a no brainer right? I should just take this instead?
you need to do stretching on your boipussy if you're gonna be good fuckmeat for the uper class sissy. train that mouth also, I hate a crude blowjob. concentrate all your energy on getting grounded and pounded.
yeah this insane bang for your buck if your main goal is becoming the best possible unarmed fighter you can be
judo
>bjj pantyboys talking about how they would win 9 fights out of 10 because royce gracie won a UFC 30 years ago
depends on what you want to do. do you believe you'd find wrestling, or punching people more fun? from a training perspective, BJJ might be better for musculature, while boxing is superior cardio.
Muay Thai.
BJJ may be better for 1v1s (debatable), but boxing is definitely better if you ever need to face more than one person at once
Bjj is for gays. Learn boxing and carry a knife, bjj suddenly becomes worthless with a pointy object involved.
Learn myau thai and silat or escrima for knife fighting. You'll be made a killer in a few years. The Myau Thai form is actually originally from knife fighting.... Just imagine two dudes with knives instead going at it and you can see what I mean.