completely false. the fact is that the vast majority of women have low self-esteem and want to be better looking than their partner. this is why it is actually better to be average to above-average looking instead of a 10/10. women don't want their men to be prettier than they are.
>t. decent but goofy looking guy married to a 9.2/10
Did you talk to women for this information? How about you watch what they do and not what the say, you'll get a much more honest dataset. How many hot girls-mediocre guys couples do you know?
Being hot is probably all she has going for her then. Or your perception of what's hot in women is tainted by you being a simp.
It's always fit guys with careers with goblinas that have nothing going on in their lives.
If you consider him average, then she probably secured a provider Bc being old and used up.
I had saw occurrence in my whole life when woman dated down, it was hen she wasn't objectively beautiful and spent whole life as insecure introvert with zero friends.
>the vast majority of women have low self-esteem and want to be better looking than their partner
No. The vast majority of women have low self-esteem and want a 10/10 to get validation, because if they could get one then it means that they're hot. On the other hand, if they only get an average guy then they're definitely ugly girls. Your boyfriend is a trophy, not a rival.
Women like fucking 10s but they know they cannot keep them so they don't date them. Most women do marry men who look worse than them, but in 10 years that often flips since women age worse than men.
>The vast majority of women have low self-esteem and want a 10/10 to get validation
You're actually describing men. When a man gets a hot girl other dudes will pat him on the back and commend his game. Where as when a woman gets a man who is out of her league, other women will talk about how much better he could do, point out her every flaw, and snicker at the obvious mismatch when they walk by. And worst of all she will know all of this because she has done the exact same thing.
Crazy how garden gnomes post some delusional bullshit, explain tinder statistics then hurr durr not representative. Take you tounge and pull in threw my asscrack
This, meeting women through social media or online means is very skewed and not a good representation of proper dating.
t. Also married and met my wife at church
I'm the grossest looking skinnyfat twit, complete with glasses and a small dick. Beyond all odds, 8/10 petite Tumblr girls have fallen into my lap around ten times..I literally can't believe some chick wanted to fuck me. Should I see a therapist?
Nah, women are weird. I’m really attractive and fit, but they never want to fuck me right off the bat and always want a relationship, meanwhile my similar friends can fuck them first day but can’t get a gf. I think it has to do with how they perceive you. You probably seem like a sage emotionally available guy or something.
I'm gay but I can speak to this. From two angles too.
Before I trained I looked....like a skinnyfat twink but maybe benefited from being white and not femme. Basically a hard 7. I remember being somewhat non-attracted to conventionally attractive men, not unattracted but inert. My experience was that they were vanilla in the bedroom, and the more attractive a person got the more sterile the sex was. Flashforward to lifting for a while and I definitely boosted myself looks-wise, maybe an 8-8.5. Sex has been harder to acquire, more difficult to find mates and less frequent opportunities present themselves. In part because I got pickier which happens naturally. I relate this to my hot friend in college (also gay), he was not approached in person often because he was seen as intimidating. He got around this with social media, but in person is made more difficult.
bottom by conscription. All the dudes I want to have sex with are high T and want me to do weird shit like wear glasses or put on a hoodie and pretend I'm still in college
have a nice day sodomite
Does it change anything if I confess my sins and don't receive eucharist in a state of mortal sin (sex with men). Because I do that.
Sex for gays is a completely different ball game than sex for heteros. You fags don't have to deal with the most annoying part of sex - the woman.
True, I think the major difference is the social element of attraction vs physical element. The 666 rule (only sleep with dude if 6 foot, 6 inches, and make 6 figures), invented by women 'date strategists' is hilarious to me. 6 foot: I kinda get it I'm slightly attracted to height, but my best sex has been with a dude an inch taller and shorter than me and I'm 5 8". 6 figures: This is clearly for long relationship prospects and looking ahead, but I would never choose a guy for making upper middle class income over middle class relationship-wise, it's not that important to me I have my own money. 6 inches: .....this is the one that get's me. 6 foot and 6 figures is way more exclusive than 6 inches and if you were selecting to only go for big dicks...6 inches is enough to satisfy you?? Makes no sense to me.
So I think women and gay men differ alot in terms of external social factors, but have similar carnal innately biological physical attractions. With gay men (because higher libido than women) those factors of physical attraction are much more clear than with women. They're trying to get a baby and support, we just need someone with the right physical attributes and a non-obtuse personality.
>Does it change anything if I confess my sins and don't receive eucharist in a state of mortal sin (sex with men). Because I do that.
I’m pretty sure pre marital sex and masturbation are mortal sins too so if you’re going to hell for sex with men despite going to confession and abstaining from the Eucharist while under mortal sin then so are a lot of straight men
Please answer honestly
Why are you gay? Was there anything in your early life that if you think deeply about would explain your attraction to men?
I'm genuinely asking this because it seems to me that most gay men are gay because of certain events that happened to them, and very few are naturally attracted to men.
I like dicks in my ass, simple as. No jungian deep psychology lesson needed.
1 year ago
Anonymous
I didn't write this response.
Please answer honestly
Why are you gay? Was there anything in your early life that if you think deeply about would explain your attraction to men?
I'm genuinely asking this because it seems to me that most gay men are gay because of certain events that happened to them, and very few are naturally attracted to men.
I'm gay, I can't point to anything specific. I 'married' a bunch of girls in kindergarten and had a girlfriend in 5th grade. Idk if other people can relate, but I was excited to hit puberty and tried various things to try and cum for the first time. I watched straight porn and it didn't work. I clicked over to gay porn and thought it was gross, because dick in butt 'ew gross why would you put it there' I would masturbate a bunch to see if stuff would come out. Then one time, as a joke, I imagined two naked men wrestling and stuff came out. That's when I discovered I was gay.
I am a middle child of three siblings of the same gender, which is indicated in the literature for social deviancy, we're more likely to be criminals etc. I had medical complications requiring surgery early on, so idk if that was traumatic I was too young to remember. I remember being depressed and suicidal way before most, in third grade I would sometimes have to get up from the dinner table and go into the garage because I felt out of body and felt this unwarranted sense that my family was plotting to kill once I came back to the table. But my family is a supportive upper middle class family, Dad was always in the picture. He was kind of a hardass but was always a good Dad, and though I had negative feelings toward him, that was after I discovered I was gay, not before. So I don't think it was him. My guess is it was something hormonal in the womb, but I'm really just guessing at that point. Plus my little and older bro are both straight and they were in the same womb as me.
1 year ago
Anonymous
You are not going to hell for being gay. If it truly is natural for you and not the result of perversion, Christ loves you all the same. Your attraction to men is not a sin, although any other sexual deviancy you may have is. Keep it clean.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Of god agreed with you then it wouldn’t make a difference natural or otherwise. Sorry chud.
1 year ago
Anonymous
God set in motion DNA; variability in how that DNA is expressed is not always the fault of the individual. If you could read you would know that I implied that natural homosexuality takes care of itself as it should only ever be a miniscule portion of the population.
1 year ago
Anonymous
We all have one or two sins that tempt us most strongly, while other sins may even seem alien.
Redskin injuns are genetically more susceptible to alcoholism, doesn't make it less of a sin for them to drink away their lives
1 year ago
Anonymous
How is drinking a sin? One of the things the main man was famous for was making wine after saying, "woman, what business is that if mine?"
1 year ago
Anonymous
The parallel here then would be that drinking is not a sin, but gluttony of alcohol is. And so homosexuality is not a sin, but perversion of what would otherwise be heterosexual men is.
1 year ago
Anonymous
As someone who doesn't really like gays and is intensely transphobic, I agree with this.
1 year ago
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1 year ago
Anonymous
guessing that's a trans, based on the comments. I imagine the liberal amounts of makeup and cgi help it pass. Good thing I hate bimbos too.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>intensely transphobic
based
unlike a tiny minority of gays, all trannies are inherently rejecting god because no one is naturally not a man or woman.
1 year ago
Anonymous
No, the better parallel would be excessive drinking leads to trying new kinds of drinks and eventually stunt drinking like butt chugs and huffing everclear. With the initial perversion of amount, leading to a perversion of form.
1 year ago
Anonymous
There is zero (0) evidence that homosex is biologically based though.
There is, however, extensive evidence that sexual abuse and an illegitimate/absent father figure lead to homosex
1 year ago
Anonymous
It would be naïve to think that never once in the history of humanity that a man was born sexually attracted to other men. I am not arguing against the fact that by and large what you stated is the cause, however.
1 year ago
Anonymous
If thats the case, does the sin not lie on the abuser then?
For corrupting and uncorrupted soul, and giving them the burden of lifelong trauma.
Especially if religious due the self loathing and unreconcileable nature of being in a state of sin/gay etc.
I don't think a just god would victim blame.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Being molested messes you up mentally and spiritually, but it's still a choice to sin or not every single time you're tempted. God forgives you if you repent in the name of Jesus. And yes, God judges leaders more harshly than the misled.
1 year ago
Anonymous
But what would you say to someone like me never was abused and had a great father I worked with for 20+ years? Where do I look for blame when it's literally just me being myself?
>inb4 kys
1 year ago
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Groomed by culture
1 year ago
Anonymous
Not the same anon, but thanks for saying it. I hope you're right, I pray about it a lot. Whatever I am, Christ is King.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>I remember being depressed and suicidal way before most, in third grade I would sometimes have to get up from the dinner table and go into the garage because I felt out of body and felt this unwarranted sense that my family was plotting to kill once I came back to the table.
That's pretty unusual bro. Any feelings like that persist?
1 year ago
Anonymous
No, I am more paranoid than is typical but I don't have out of body depression anymore or anything
I'm not gay but I am bi-sexual. Like hardcore bisexual and have sexual and romantic feelings for both sexes equally. Nothing bad ever happened to me, no one touched me, I had a wonderful upbringing. Can't say "I was born this way" but I can definitely say that nothing happened to me that I like guys too. Just always felt drawn to both.
1 year ago
Anonymous
I'm also bi and have no history of sexual trauma, maybe it's just the filthy monosexuals who are fucked up.
1 year ago
Anonymous
If you get a boner for dudes, you’re gay. It doesn’t matter what else gives you a boner. You’re gay, anon.
looks like you took your time to make a quality post, but the fact that you regularly put poop in your mouth makes devalues everything that comes out of it, sorry.
bottom by conscription. All the dudes I want to have sex with are high T and want me to do weird shit like wear glasses or put on a hoodie and pretend I'm still in college
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Does it change anything if I confess my sins and don't receive eucharist in a state of mortal sin (sex with men). Because I do that.
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True, I think the major difference is the social element of attraction vs physical element. The 666 rule (only sleep with dude if 6 foot, 6 inches, and make 6 figures), invented by women 'date strategists' is hilarious to me. 6 foot: I kinda get it I'm slightly attracted to height, but my best sex has been with a dude an inch taller and shorter than me and I'm 5 8". 6 figures: This is clearly for long relationship prospects and looking ahead, but I would never choose a guy for making upper middle class income over middle class relationship-wise, it's not that important to me I have my own money. 6 inches: .....this is the one that get's me. 6 foot and 6 figures is way more exclusive than 6 inches and if you were selecting to only go for big dicks...6 inches is enough to satisfy you?? Makes no sense to me.
So I think women and gay men differ alot in terms of external social factors, but have similar carnal innately biological physical attractions. With gay men (because higher libido than women) those factors of physical attraction are much more clear than with women. They're trying to get a baby and support, we just need someone with the right physical attributes and a non-obtuse personality.
Appreciate the effortposts anon. Question for you- if gay guys are attracted to other guys, how come more of them don't put work into getting fit? Like they should clearly be able to recognize that there are steps they can take to make themselves look more like what they want to fuck (which would ostensibly increase their attractiveness to other dudes and make it more likely for them to get laid), yet the few times I've been to gay bars (West Hollywood excepted) its been a handful of really attractive masc guys and then a herd of either creepy looking twinks or dysgenic blobs with dyed hair.
I think there's a few factors. First being that many gays who do fitness don't go to bars. I'm one of them. The gay community are big about having their own spaces, and these spaces are often bars and parties with drink and drugs. Gay nightlife is where alot of gays find validation and community. Pursuing fitness is antithetical to popularity in nightlife. You can't stay out as late as other people, you have less fun because you can't drink as much or do as many drugs. I don't drink at all, don't do drugs, that's rare in the gay community. So there's that, and there's also "Eat big to get big". Most gays are bottoms and eating big to get big makes sex for gay men more difficult. Also, culturally, the gay community is socially woke to a point where actively calling out other people is common place and body positivity is accepted and would cause real negative social effects if someone was 'body-shamed'. And because sex is easy to find if you're out of shape (I had way more sex when I was out of shape than I do now), there's no incentive to change or pursue. Look at how many guys on IST lift for women and getting laid. Lifting is non-essential toward that end in the gay community.
Bullshit, spend a year getting in shape and you can turn down 6s to hit on 8s. Maintenance of a good body takes like 1/3rd of the work it takes to get a good body.
This is so underrated and the vast majority of people don’t seem to understand. Breaking new ground on your physique is fucking ridiculously difficult but keeping it once you get there is not that hard
Makes sense I guess. Especially the bit about anal (never thought of that before). I can see how that'd make hookups really inconvenient on a bulk. >culturally, the gay community is socially woke
How widespread is that? Because there's always talk that the community part of lgbtq community is just a meme and that in reality they can all barely stand each other. And just anecdotally the few gays I'm actual friends with make fun of woke shit every chance they get while the trannies I've interacted with irl hold gay white dudes especially in pretty high contempt.
Not saying any of that is representative or expecting you to be the ambassador of homostan or anything, but it'd be cool to get another perspective on things.
My perspective is just limited to upper middle class gays in purple north eastern states, with some contact with LA and some but minimal amounts of the South tbh. So I can't speak beyond that scope but I think wokeness is more concentrated the more densely homo the social circle is. Many gays are not in gay social circles and there only contact is finding a mate, that's the most common gay, the unaffiliated. But of all the gay circles of substantial size I've seen they're woke.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Circles of only gay men have the same dynamics of women only circles. Go figure
1 year ago
Anonymous
>purple northeastern states
Broski that's literally just Pennsylvania
Gay guys have a range of tastes like straights. I am a 6', Caucasian, bodybuilder type and that's almost universally well received but I am not attracted to guys like that at all. My boyfriend is a feminine, slim, Asian with a small penis but I love him and he's the only male I let touch me.
Do you guys go outside? There are NOT that many good looking tall muscular guys. Even in clubs, etc. and out cities are dysgenic and full of minorities now (america) so you’re unironically more likely to see one in the middle of Kansas and Wyoming than LA or NYC
no they don't, people are so fucking delusional it's unreal. they live in an extreme niche internet bubble that consists of "famous" social media celebrities and even if they aren't "celebrities" it's girls/guys with tens of thousands up to millions of followers.
and what comes to lifting stats, 1/2/3/4 would put you well above 95% strongest men IN THE GYM. you are probably top 5% strongest men at 0,5/1/1,5/2
top 5% is 1/20. one out of 20 guys at the gym do not lift 1/2/3/4, period.
> one out of 20 guys at the gym do not lift 1/2/3/4, period
one in 20 guys at the gym does not DL, period. notice that all the actually swole guys use machines and dumbells? it's always skinny asian kids on the squat rack and DL platform
this
the internet is not real life
girls, just like guys, say shit for attention or to sound edgy
girls brag about kinks they have but in reality never do them
girls talk about big dicks but in reality cant take it without hurting
girls talk about dating guys with money but in reality fuck broke guys all the time
girls brag about their "type" but end up falling in love with dudes completely different
girls talk about how "picky" they are but are in reality very insecure
girls talk about how they want a guy with their shit together but most likely are not stable themselves
girls say shit that they know will get them attention
problem is, incels on socia media dont understand women and think trolling on social media is a page out of every woman's diary
All true. They want to project an image of being confident and capable.
I've noticed that it's a large part of socializing for normies to share these extreme stories and if you just make stuff up, it works just as well. Since obviously the most extreme stories will be shared for attention, you can make the assumption most stories are just lies. >Also laughing at someone's jokes requires giving assuming they are smart enough to make the joke >And this is a woman's tweet on IST
Exactly. What this broad means is she's uncomfortable with men that trigger an innate primal attraction that short-circuits or bypasses her ability to manipulate men to achieve whatever it is she wants from them.
When you get close to a point where women don't have an option other to be attracted to you, they are uncomfortable.
This.
Literally stop caring and worrying about shit. You know what women don't like? Try-hards who constantly worry about dumb shit. Just be yourself and stop caring about what people think.
I see big dogs do it all the time. This one guy did my highest weight (1.5 pl8) about 20 times although he was bouncing it and not going 90 degrees but whatever. I’m on the road to 2 pl8 1.5 for 4 and I already have a 1 pl8 OHP
no fucking way.
This is simply not true.
Your average man can bench 60kg with 0 prior training, unless we're talking below 5'7 here.
I'm 5'9 82kgs, have been lifting seriously for 1 year and can do 1/2/3/4 and I don't even look like I workout.
Most men I know can do 2 plates, and curl at least 20kg dbs.
I do agree that your average man will have shit squats and deads tho as these movements need training.
wouldn't shock me tbh. I rarely see 2pl8 at my gym. I'm weak as shit, could barely bench the bar at the beginning of the year, but noticed that now even my puny working sets are above average now.
According to an online calculator I can 1repmax 60kg based on the quantity of push ups I can do.
I've done 10 reps of 40+ or 50+ kg on the bench on my first time benching like 2 or 3 months ago.
>32% of Americans have a gym membership >18% of people with a gym membership actually go consistently >Half of those consistent users go at least twice a week >Already at less than 3% of people >Half of new members quit within the first 6 months >Not everyone who goes to the gym is there to strength train
If you ran 3 months of a 5x5 I honestly think you're in the top 2-3% for strength.
>If you ran 3 months of a 5x5 I honestly think you're in the top 2-3% for strength.
This. You actually have no idea just how weak the average person is. Take one to the gym with you some time and be shocked.
I dislike the "average person" argument. It includes too many old people for me to get an accurate look at what my demographic, my social competitors, my peers are like.
yeah i brought a friend one time
i told him that we will start on the bench press and loaded 10lbs plate on each side
i expected it to be light for him but he can't raise it up
>be me >always made fun of in highschool for being skinny >called anorexic, skeleton, Auschwitz survivor >work out, not even cuz of the comments but just because it was fun and made me feel good >one day benching, still think of myself as skinny and weak, only had 35 lb plates on each side >some of the other guys who constantly called me skinny walk into the school weight room as I leave to get some water >when I come back my friend tells me they tried to bench the weight I was doing and said “well if anon can do it it’s probably easy” but then failed >felt good
I’m still on the skinny side but I’ve made progress and people seem to actually find my body aesthetic now but just goes to show how weak the average guy is
>>32% of Americans have a gym membership
My boomer parents live in an expansive McMansion subdivision with a private community center, pool, and gym.
Everyone who lives there is by default a gym member so I wonder how much that skews the statistics.
I use the gym when I go to visit and am usually the only there.
you're forgetting everyone in the trades. the dudes that hump 2 sheets of drywall up stairs every morning, carry and mix bags of concrete. shit like that.
How did that retard manage to include “caring about your birthday” AND “birthday dinner” like wtf? You’re supposed to care about your birthday but never celebrate it?
How did that retard manage to include “caring about your birthday” AND “birthday dinner” like wtf? You’re supposed to care about your birthday but never celebrate it?
how do obvious jokes make incels seethe every time
do you guys really believe there are women out there who are judging you for looking in the rear view mirror or blowing your nose
Many girls do find it disgusting if you blow your nose in front of them.
The logic is that people usually hide revolting actions from people they already know. So if you are blowing your nose in front of her too early, likely you will do other things that she will not appreciate
T. Autist who don't care asking girls about why they do the things they do
>Many girls do find it disgusting if you blow your nose in front of them.
I make it a goal to fart or blow my nose in front of a potential girlfriend to gauge their response. I've picked my nose in front of my last LTR, she complained about it once but she knew I didn't give a shit.
You're a retard because there are chicks who find it "hot" when I turn around to reverse instead of using my fucking backup camera. Yes it's stupid but when they say something like that, you have to continue the behavior.
>become so used to backup camera >can only drive around in reverse >while viewing through the backup camera >completely oblivious to the looks of horror and shock of other drivers as gaze is 100% fixed on backup camera screen
>glance at backup camera once and then rapidly back out
>become so used to backup camera >can only drive around in reverse >while viewing through the backup camera >completely oblivious to the looks of horror and shock of other drivers as gaze is 100% fixed on backup camera screen
actually this is pretty fucking on point other than the peeling an orange thing
everything else either makes you look weak, gay, incompetent, a philistine or a manchild
I do most of that shit, ffs I'm even worse, I still have plush toys from ex gfs and all that jazz, I watch cartoons, etc.
I'm not an incel, and nobody EVER told me I was unmanly because they think Imma beat em up at the slightest criticism. Which is ofc not true, I'm nice af. So what am I doing here? I dunno.
why is it always single girls/females giving relationship advise to girls/females who are in a relation?
Same goes for incels telling guys in a relationship how to treat females/girls.
You are fucking retarded
Maybe 1/2/3/4 is stronger than 95% of GYM GOING men, probably even higher
Men in general? No way you have 1 point something billion asian men, plus what? 1 billion old men? Plus unfit people in general. 1/2/3/4 is higher than 99.9% for sure
5% of of 3 billion is 150M
0.1% is still 3M
Keep in mind that the US army had to remove the leg tuck from their fitness test because it was too hard, and the army is more fit than the average person.
The leg tuck is easier than the pull up, and you had to do one to pass. So if you can do one pull up, you’re decently stronger than average, which is sad.
Apparently, I have really good eye brows and I've had numerous girls throughout my life ask if they can "do my eyebrows". I've legitimately contemplated going to an esthetician to have them properly done.
It's pretty subjective if you think about it. Doing 1/2/3/4 means nothing if you're 6 ft tall and a hambeast but a lot if you're a manlet like me. I hit the 4 plate deadlift like 1 month ago and it was pretty worthless aside from my gymbros clapping. Back to the fat guy example, yeah, the lardlord is stronger but he can't run or do a pullup for his life. I prefer looking good and being consistent than being stronger since strength doesn't show as good as aesthetics in a daily basis. Just think that if you're fit, eat well and train consistently, you'll have a better body than 95% of the population which is untrained and with a bad diet
the reasoning here is completely wrong. if 100% of competitors bench at least 20lbs that statistic doesnt mean that *only* that tiny fraction of the population can do so. you are not placed in the PL competitor percentage of men just because you can bench the minimum amount that the vast majority of them can bench.
if 87% of competitors bench at least 200lbs, it could be possible that competitors, who are 1% of the population, actually average around around 300lbs bench, and 50% of the normal population bench around 200lbs.
>Muh normies
really IST? you think normies matter? 80% of men are already invisible to the world. So you are really competing with the top 20% and that is all that really matters. So take the top 20% of men and thats what it takes to be near the 1% of that.
women say bullshit like this just for attention, in reality they all want 10/10 men and think anything below that is gross
completely false. the fact is that the vast majority of women have low self-esteem and want to be better looking than their partner. this is why it is actually better to be average to above-average looking instead of a 10/10. women don't want their men to be prettier than they are.
>t. decent but goofy looking guy married to a 9.2/10
post pic of wife
He wont
He’s a fag, he’s saying his husband is a 9.2/10
Did you talk to women for this information? How about you watch what they do and not what the say, you'll get a much more honest dataset. How many hot girls-mediocre guys couples do you know?
A lot.
Being hot is probably all she has going for her then. Or your perception of what's hot in women is tainted by you being a simp.
It's always fit guys with careers with goblinas that have nothing going on in their lives.
If you consider him average, then she probably secured a provider Bc being old and used up.
I had saw occurrence in my whole life when woman dated down, it was hen she wasn't objectively beautiful and spent whole life as insecure introvert with zero friends.
Incels will rage at this post despite knowing they are ugly. Truly a phenomenon
goofchads cant stop winning
>the vast majority of women have low self-esteem and want to be better looking than their partner
No. The vast majority of women have low self-esteem and want a 10/10 to get validation, because if they could get one then it means that they're hot. On the other hand, if they only get an average guy then they're definitely ugly girls. Your boyfriend is a trophy, not a rival.
Women like fucking 10s but they know they cannot keep them so they don't date them. Most women do marry men who look worse than them, but in 10 years that often flips since women age worse than men.
>The vast majority of women have low self-esteem and want a 10/10 to get validation
You're actually describing men. When a man gets a hot girl other dudes will pat him on the back and commend his game. Where as when a woman gets a man who is out of her league, other women will talk about how much better he could do, point out her every flaw, and snicker at the obvious mismatch when they walk by. And worst of all she will know all of this because she has done the exact same thing.
Crazy how garden gnomes post some delusional bullshit, explain tinder statistics then hurr durr not representative. Take you tounge and pull in threw my asscrack
tinder dating is nothing like meeting a girl the "normal" way
This, meeting women through social media or online means is very skewed and not a good representation of proper dating.
t. Also married and met my wife at church
You are mislead on what a 10/10 is your prettyboy twink is simply not a 10/10.
>married
How hot is your wife?
>decent but goofy looking guy married to a 9.2/10
post your height
Ah yes...of course, that is the reason women don't even dare to look at me or interact with me, it's because I'm too good looking.
I'm the grossest looking skinnyfat twit, complete with glasses and a small dick. Beyond all odds, 8/10 petite Tumblr girls have fallen into my lap around ten times..I literally can't believe some chick wanted to fuck me. Should I see a therapist?
Nah, women are weird. I’m really attractive and fit, but they never want to fuck me right off the bat and always want a relationship, meanwhile my similar friends can fuck them first day but can’t get a gf. I think it has to do with how they perceive you. You probably seem like a sage emotionally available guy or something.
I'm a (hopefully less gross looking) twat with glasses. How do you get petite tumblr girls?
I guess I must be a 10 then because I've never had trouble with girls.
I'm gay but I can speak to this. From two angles too.
Before I trained I looked....like a skinnyfat twink but maybe benefited from being white and not femme. Basically a hard 7. I remember being somewhat non-attracted to conventionally attractive men, not unattracted but inert. My experience was that they were vanilla in the bedroom, and the more attractive a person got the more sterile the sex was. Flashforward to lifting for a while and I definitely boosted myself looks-wise, maybe an 8-8.5. Sex has been harder to acquire, more difficult to find mates and less frequent opportunities present themselves. In part because I got pickier which happens naturally. I relate this to my hot friend in college (also gay), he was not approached in person often because he was seen as intimidating. He got around this with social media, but in person is made more difficult.
Lol, so there are actual gays on this board, also are you a top or bottom
bottom by conscription. All the dudes I want to have sex with are high T and want me to do weird shit like wear glasses or put on a hoodie and pretend I'm still in college
Does it change anything if I confess my sins and don't receive eucharist in a state of mortal sin (sex with men). Because I do that.
True, I think the major difference is the social element of attraction vs physical element. The 666 rule (only sleep with dude if 6 foot, 6 inches, and make 6 figures), invented by women 'date strategists' is hilarious to me. 6 foot: I kinda get it I'm slightly attracted to height, but my best sex has been with a dude an inch taller and shorter than me and I'm 5 8". 6 figures: This is clearly for long relationship prospects and looking ahead, but I would never choose a guy for making upper middle class income over middle class relationship-wise, it's not that important to me I have my own money. 6 inches: .....this is the one that get's me. 6 foot and 6 figures is way more exclusive than 6 inches and if you were selecting to only go for big dicks...6 inches is enough to satisfy you?? Makes no sense to me.
So I think women and gay men differ alot in terms of external social factors, but have similar carnal innately biological physical attractions. With gay men (because higher libido than women) those factors of physical attraction are much more clear than with women. They're trying to get a baby and support, we just need someone with the right physical attributes and a non-obtuse personality.
>Does it change anything if I confess my sins and don't receive eucharist in a state of mortal sin (sex with men). Because I do that.
I’m pretty sure pre marital sex and masturbation are mortal sins too so if you’re going to hell for sex with men despite going to confession and abstaining from the Eucharist while under mortal sin then so are a lot of straight men
Please answer honestly
Why are you gay? Was there anything in your early life that if you think deeply about would explain your attraction to men?
I'm genuinely asking this because it seems to me that most gay men are gay because of certain events that happened to them, and very few are naturally attracted to men.
I like dicks in my ass, simple as. No jungian deep psychology lesson needed.
I didn't write this response.
I'm gay, I can't point to anything specific. I 'married' a bunch of girls in kindergarten and had a girlfriend in 5th grade. Idk if other people can relate, but I was excited to hit puberty and tried various things to try and cum for the first time. I watched straight porn and it didn't work. I clicked over to gay porn and thought it was gross, because dick in butt 'ew gross why would you put it there' I would masturbate a bunch to see if stuff would come out. Then one time, as a joke, I imagined two naked men wrestling and stuff came out. That's when I discovered I was gay.
I am a middle child of three siblings of the same gender, which is indicated in the literature for social deviancy, we're more likely to be criminals etc. I had medical complications requiring surgery early on, so idk if that was traumatic I was too young to remember. I remember being depressed and suicidal way before most, in third grade I would sometimes have to get up from the dinner table and go into the garage because I felt out of body and felt this unwarranted sense that my family was plotting to kill once I came back to the table. But my family is a supportive upper middle class family, Dad was always in the picture. He was kind of a hardass but was always a good Dad, and though I had negative feelings toward him, that was after I discovered I was gay, not before. So I don't think it was him. My guess is it was something hormonal in the womb, but I'm really just guessing at that point. Plus my little and older bro are both straight and they were in the same womb as me.
You are not going to hell for being gay. If it truly is natural for you and not the result of perversion, Christ loves you all the same. Your attraction to men is not a sin, although any other sexual deviancy you may have is. Keep it clean.
Of god agreed with you then it wouldn’t make a difference natural or otherwise. Sorry chud.
God set in motion DNA; variability in how that DNA is expressed is not always the fault of the individual. If you could read you would know that I implied that natural homosexuality takes care of itself as it should only ever be a miniscule portion of the population.
We all have one or two sins that tempt us most strongly, while other sins may even seem alien.
Redskin injuns are genetically more susceptible to alcoholism, doesn't make it less of a sin for them to drink away their lives
How is drinking a sin? One of the things the main man was famous for was making wine after saying, "woman, what business is that if mine?"
The parallel here then would be that drinking is not a sin, but gluttony of alcohol is. And so homosexuality is not a sin, but perversion of what would otherwise be heterosexual men is.
As someone who doesn't really like gays and is intensely transphobic, I agree with this.
guessing that's a trans, based on the comments. I imagine the liberal amounts of makeup and cgi help it pass. Good thing I hate bimbos too.
>intensely transphobic
based
unlike a tiny minority of gays, all trannies are inherently rejecting god because no one is naturally not a man or woman.
No, the better parallel would be excessive drinking leads to trying new kinds of drinks and eventually stunt drinking like butt chugs and huffing everclear. With the initial perversion of amount, leading to a perversion of form.
There is zero (0) evidence that homosex is biologically based though.
There is, however, extensive evidence that sexual abuse and an illegitimate/absent father figure lead to homosex
It would be naïve to think that never once in the history of humanity that a man was born sexually attracted to other men. I am not arguing against the fact that by and large what you stated is the cause, however.
If thats the case, does the sin not lie on the abuser then?
For corrupting and uncorrupted soul, and giving them the burden of lifelong trauma.
Especially if religious due the self loathing and unreconcileable nature of being in a state of sin/gay etc.
I don't think a just god would victim blame.
Being molested messes you up mentally and spiritually, but it's still a choice to sin or not every single time you're tempted. God forgives you if you repent in the name of Jesus. And yes, God judges leaders more harshly than the misled.
But what would you say to someone like me never was abused and had a great father I worked with for 20+ years? Where do I look for blame when it's literally just me being myself?
>inb4 kys
Groomed by culture
Not the same anon, but thanks for saying it. I hope you're right, I pray about it a lot. Whatever I am, Christ is King.
>I remember being depressed and suicidal way before most, in third grade I would sometimes have to get up from the dinner table and go into the garage because I felt out of body and felt this unwarranted sense that my family was plotting to kill once I came back to the table.
That's pretty unusual bro. Any feelings like that persist?
No, I am more paranoid than is typical but I don't have out of body depression anymore or anything
I'm not gay but I am bi-sexual. Like hardcore bisexual and have sexual and romantic feelings for both sexes equally. Nothing bad ever happened to me, no one touched me, I had a wonderful upbringing. Can't say "I was born this way" but I can definitely say that nothing happened to me that I like guys too. Just always felt drawn to both.
I'm also bi and have no history of sexual trauma, maybe it's just the filthy monosexuals who are fucked up.
If you get a boner for dudes, you’re gay. It doesn’t matter what else gives you a boner. You’re gay, anon.
>and want me to do weird shit like wear glasses or put on a hoodie and pretend I'm still in college
kek based fetish enjoyers
Good answer but I think you'll find statistically 6 foot and/or 6 figures is more common than 6+ inches
have a nice day sodomite
Sex for gays is a completely different ball game than sex for heteros. You fags don't have to deal with the most annoying part of sex - the woman.
looks like you took your time to make a quality post, but the fact that you regularly put poop in your mouth makes devalues everything that comes out of it, sorry.
Appreciate the effortposts anon. Question for you- if gay guys are attracted to other guys, how come more of them don't put work into getting fit? Like they should clearly be able to recognize that there are steps they can take to make themselves look more like what they want to fuck (which would ostensibly increase their attractiveness to other dudes and make it more likely for them to get laid), yet the few times I've been to gay bars (West Hollywood excepted) its been a handful of really attractive masc guys and then a herd of either creepy looking twinks or dysgenic blobs with dyed hair.
I think there's a few factors. First being that many gays who do fitness don't go to bars. I'm one of them. The gay community are big about having their own spaces, and these spaces are often bars and parties with drink and drugs. Gay nightlife is where alot of gays find validation and community. Pursuing fitness is antithetical to popularity in nightlife. You can't stay out as late as other people, you have less fun because you can't drink as much or do as many drugs. I don't drink at all, don't do drugs, that's rare in the gay community. So there's that, and there's also "Eat big to get big". Most gays are bottoms and eating big to get big makes sex for gay men more difficult. Also, culturally, the gay community is socially woke to a point where actively calling out other people is common place and body positivity is accepted and would cause real negative social effects if someone was 'body-shamed'. And because sex is easy to find if you're out of shape (I had way more sex when I was out of shape than I do now), there's no incentive to change or pursue. Look at how many guys on IST lift for women and getting laid. Lifting is non-essential toward that end in the gay community.
Bullshit, spend a year getting in shape and you can turn down 6s to hit on 8s. Maintenance of a good body takes like 1/3rd of the work it takes to get a good body.
This is so underrated and the vast majority of people don’t seem to understand. Breaking new ground on your physique is fucking ridiculously difficult but keeping it once you get there is not that hard
Makes sense I guess. Especially the bit about anal (never thought of that before). I can see how that'd make hookups really inconvenient on a bulk.
>culturally, the gay community is socially woke
How widespread is that? Because there's always talk that the community part of lgbtq community is just a meme and that in reality they can all barely stand each other. And just anecdotally the few gays I'm actual friends with make fun of woke shit every chance they get while the trannies I've interacted with irl hold gay white dudes especially in pretty high contempt.
Not saying any of that is representative or expecting you to be the ambassador of homostan or anything, but it'd be cool to get another perspective on things.
My perspective is just limited to upper middle class gays in purple north eastern states, with some contact with LA and some but minimal amounts of the South tbh. So I can't speak beyond that scope but I think wokeness is more concentrated the more densely homo the social circle is. Many gays are not in gay social circles and there only contact is finding a mate, that's the most common gay, the unaffiliated. But of all the gay circles of substantial size I've seen they're woke.
Circles of only gay men have the same dynamics of women only circles. Go figure
>purple northeastern states
Broski that's literally just Pennsylvania
>ambassador of homostan
Top fucking kek.
That's why I keep coming to this place despite the negativeness and crab mentality.
Just go suck a dick already and admit you're gay gay. Why are you doing interview with a homo?
Gay guys have a range of tastes like straights. I am a 6', Caucasian, bodybuilder type and that's almost universally well received but I am not attracted to guys like that at all. My boyfriend is a feminine, slim, Asian with a small penis but I love him and he's the only male I let touch me.
>mates
You're not "mating" with anything. You're fucking another man's butt gay.
You're half-right. Women have such a warped perception of reality that what they think is a 7/10 male is actually a 10/10.
Do you guys go outside? There are NOT that many good looking tall muscular guys. Even in clubs, etc. and out cities are dysgenic and full of minorities now (america) so you’re unironically more likely to see one in the middle of Kansas and Wyoming than LA or NYC
no they don't, people are so fucking delusional it's unreal. they live in an extreme niche internet bubble that consists of "famous" social media celebrities and even if they aren't "celebrities" it's girls/guys with tens of thousands up to millions of followers.
and what comes to lifting stats, 1/2/3/4 would put you well above 95% strongest men IN THE GYM. you are probably top 5% strongest men at 0,5/1/1,5/2
top 5% is 1/20. one out of 20 guys at the gym do not lift 1/2/3/4, period.
> one out of 20 guys at the gym do not lift 1/2/3/4, period
one in 20 guys at the gym does not DL, period. notice that all the actually swole guys use machines and dumbells? it's always skinny asian kids on the squat rack and DL platform
this
the internet is not real life
girls, just like guys, say shit for attention or to sound edgy
girls brag about kinks they have but in reality never do them
girls talk about big dicks but in reality cant take it without hurting
girls talk about dating guys with money but in reality fuck broke guys all the time
girls brag about their "type" but end up falling in love with dudes completely different
girls talk about how "picky" they are but are in reality very insecure
girls talk about how they want a guy with their shit together but most likely are not stable themselves
girls say shit that they know will get them attention
problem is, incels on socia media dont understand women and think trolling on social media is a page out of every woman's diary
All true. They want to project an image of being confident and capable.
I've noticed that it's a large part of socializing for normies to share these extreme stories and if you just make stuff up, it works just as well. Since obviously the most extreme stories will be shared for attention, you can make the assumption most stories are just lies.
>Also laughing at someone's jokes requires giving assuming they are smart enough to make the joke
>And this is a woman's tweet on IST
Exactly. What this broad means is she's uncomfortable with men that trigger an innate primal attraction that short-circuits or bypasses her ability to manipulate men to achieve whatever it is she wants from them.
When you get close to a point where women don't have an option other to be attracted to you, they are uncomfortable.
This. Never ever listen to what women say they want or like.
Even most gym goers can't 1/2/3/4 probably 99%
You are stronger than 95% of men when you decide to be yourself.
I actually thought that pic was Bugez at a glance.
my man, I might borrow that for awhile 🙂
This.
Literally stop caring and worrying about shit. You know what women don't like? Try-hards who constantly worry about dumb shit. Just be yourself and stop caring about what people think.
based
nice touch that the right one is a photoshopped doge
>mfw i have this body type
Its over bros
No brother, it is only just beginning
>jUsT bE yOuRSeLzf Bro
Doesn't work if one is autistic, one has to act, sadly.
>this was considered comically obese in the 90s
Genuinely great advice
cool
1/2/3/4
Raise 1 child
End 1 abusive relationship
Power
Endurance
Willpower
Spirit
>7/10s look weird
reminder that average men are considered ugly
80% of men are ugly.
And 80% of women are ugly. 90% after 18. 95 after 25. 98 after 30.
Without shape lifting and holding clothes, make up, filters and whatnot they are exposed.
Most women are ugly.
And those who are considered handsome are also considered to be homosexuals...unironically, by average and ugly people.
>7/10
>average
ahh the american education system, ladies and gentlemen.
I'm a personal trainer. I'd say you're stronger than 99% of untrained men (who aren't extremely heavy) if you can bench 60kg.
You be suprised how weak the average person is. Don't let IST skew your vision.
This. When I started the gym I could only bench 35kg, now I bench 100kg.
I'm 6'1".
^^^
I could push maybe 50kg 1RM when I started benching, now I push 3x8 @ 60kg on my light days.
this, I NEVER saw someone bench a plate at my gym
Jeez.... What gym do you go to? I've seen skellies hit 2pl8 at mine.
I see big dogs do it all the time. This one guy did my highest weight (1.5 pl8) about 20 times although he was bouncing it and not going 90 degrees but whatever. I’m on the road to 2 pl8 1.5 for 4 and I already have a 1 pl8 OHP
no fucking way.
This is simply not true.
Your average man can bench 60kg with 0 prior training, unless we're talking below 5'7 here.
I'm 5'9 82kgs, have been lifting seriously for 1 year and can do 1/2/3/4 and I don't even look like I workout.
Most men I know can do 2 plates, and curl at least 20kg dbs.
I do agree that your average man will have shit squats and deads tho as these movements need training.
>This is simply not true.
PT here, like the other anon said. i get guys in there mid 20s who struggle to put up the bar
Insane and hard to believe.
I guess spending so much at the time around other people who regularly lift skews your perspective as to what is average.
>my personal individual single experience disproves your wide industry experience and knowledge
Kys
>Most men I know can do 2 plates
no they can't
Brainlet tier post
wouldn't shock me tbh. I rarely see 2pl8 at my gym. I'm weak as shit, could barely bench the bar at the beginning of the year, but noticed that now even my puny working sets are above average now.
Thats fucked
According to an online calculator I can 1repmax 60kg based on the quantity of push ups I can do.
I've done 10 reps of 40+ or 50+ kg on the bench on my first time benching like 2 or 3 months ago.
H-have I made it?
No, you are weak as fuck and should proceed to have a nice day.
Don't teenage girls love effeminate men like the guys in Kpop groups? They may not be hyper masculine but they're higher than 7s.
Kpop is the emo phase that people had in the 2000s. The only constant for attracting young women (18-25) is being lean and well groomed.
never trust a w*man
this is the natural consequence of simpery and weak men
Best picture I've seen today. Women are pathological liars
holy shit what level of manlet seethe did it take to make this picture? I hate you incel pajeets so much
Why are incels that pathetic, never seen a group with so many crybabies before
$3.29
the problem is with what they consider a 7/10, women are retarded so they'd probably give that score only to top 10% men
Online dating is a heavily biased sample with a maximum shallow audience but gives credence to this statement.
if you are stronger than 50% of the gym goers then youre probably at 95%
No way. From 2021:
>32% of Americans have a gym membership
>18% of people with a gym membership actually go consistently
>Half of those consistent users go at least twice a week
>Already at less than 3% of people
>Half of new members quit within the first 6 months
>Not everyone who goes to the gym is there to strength train
If you ran 3 months of a 5x5 I honestly think you're in the top 2-3% for strength.
>If you ran 3 months of a 5x5 I honestly think you're in the top 2-3% for strength.
This. You actually have no idea just how weak the average person is. Take one to the gym with you some time and be shocked.
I dislike the "average person" argument. It includes too many old people for me to get an accurate look at what my demographic, my social competitors, my peers are like.
yeah i brought a friend one time
i told him that we will start on the bench press and loaded 10lbs plate on each side
i expected it to be light for him but he can't raise it up
>be me
>always made fun of in highschool for being skinny
>called anorexic, skeleton, Auschwitz survivor
>work out, not even cuz of the comments but just because it was fun and made me feel good
>one day benching, still think of myself as skinny and weak, only had 35 lb plates on each side
>some of the other guys who constantly called me skinny walk into the school weight room as I leave to get some water
>when I come back my friend tells me they tried to bench the weight I was doing and said “well if anon can do it it’s probably easy” but then failed
>felt good
I’m still on the skinny side but I’ve made progress and people seem to actually find my body aesthetic now but just goes to show how weak the average guy is
Wagmi
>>32% of Americans have a gym membership
Some says is 20% and in other places is less like UK is less than 10%
Is this data from a survey? Survey results can be affected by things like the social desirability bias, so things might be even worse than this.
>>32% of Americans have a gym membership
My boomer parents live in an expansive McMansion subdivision with a private community center, pool, and gym.
Everyone who lives there is by default a gym member so I wonder how much that skews the statistics.
I use the gym when I go to visit and am usually the only there.
you're forgetting everyone in the trades. the dudes that hump 2 sheets of drywall up stairs every morning, carry and mix bags of concrete. shit like that.
This thread is giving me the ick
How did that retard manage to include “caring about your birthday” AND “birthday dinner” like wtf? You’re supposed to care about your birthday but never celebrate it?
>looking in the rear view mirror while reversing
how do obvious jokes make incels seethe every time
do you guys really believe there are women out there who are judging you for looking in the rear view mirror or blowing your nose
Many girls do find it disgusting if you blow your nose in front of them.
The logic is that people usually hide revolting actions from people they already know. So if you are blowing your nose in front of her too early, likely you will do other things that she will not appreciate
T. Autist who don't care asking girls about why they do the things they do
>Many girls do find it disgusting if you blow your nose in front of them.
I make it a goal to fart or blow my nose in front of a potential girlfriend to gauge their response. I've picked my nose in front of my last LTR, she complained about it once but she knew I didn't give a shit.
Fuck I gotta bloody nose right now, can't blow it.
>tfw didn't get an ick
Thats why you do the chad
>hold one nostril shut and blow as hard as you can
>I was only pretending to be retarded! Heheheh!!!
You're a retard because there are chicks who find it "hot" when I turn around to reverse instead of using my fucking backup camera. Yes it's stupid but when they say something like that, you have to continue the behavior.
Is incel the hot new term that retards use?
have you been in a coma for 3 years?
Oh fuck oh fuck shut the simulation down NOW
actually right on this one, you need to turn your entire body around gay
>glance at backup camera once and then rapidly back out
>become so used to backup camera
>can only drive around in reverse
>while viewing through the backup camera
>completely oblivious to the looks of horror and shock of other drivers as gaze is 100% fixed on backup camera screen
>not just flooring it blindly into oncoming traffic
Holy fucking kek
I only look into side view mirrors.
she forgot 'breathing' and 'sleeping more than 6 hours', no standards at all this woman
>IST
That's quite funny
and the top of the list should say
>caring what women think
>shivering in the cold
we won alpha-actinin-3 deficient chads
actually this is pretty fucking on point other than the peeling an orange thing
everything else either makes you look weak, gay, incompetent, a philistine or a manchild
Truth hurts.
She's right though.
I dont do any of this other than peeling an orange but wtf is that supposed to mean???
Nice, this woman has given me a list of goals that I can work towards
>he doesn't do astral projection for a bird's-eye view of his surroundings while reversing
I do most of that shit, ffs I'm even worse, I still have plush toys from ex gfs and all that jazz, I watch cartoons, etc.
I'm not an incel, and nobody EVER told me I was unmanly because they think Imma beat em up at the slightest criticism. Which is ofc not true, I'm nice af. So what am I doing here? I dunno.
why is it always single girls/females giving relationship advise to girls/females who are in a relation?
Same goes for incels telling guys in a relationship how to treat females/girls.
Guess this is why i am without a GF. Am i simply too handsome and unapproachable.
>At what point are you stronger than 95% of men?
probably by 1/2/3/4 at the latest
2/3/4/5 puts you in the top 0.1% due to the 2pl8 press
You are fucking retarded
Maybe 1/2/3/4 is stronger than 95% of GYM GOING men, probably even higher
Men in general? No way you have 1 point something billion asian men, plus what? 1 billion old men? Plus unfit people in general. 1/2/3/4 is higher than 99.9% for sure
5% of of 3 billion is 150M
0.1% is still 3M
Keep in mind that the US army had to remove the leg tuck from their fitness test because it was too hard, and the army is more fit than the average person.
The leg tuck is easier than the pull up, and you had to do one to pass. So if you can do one pull up, you’re decently stronger than average, which is sad.
This can't be real. I know many skinny gays who can do like 10-15 pull ups.
Sub 160lb bodyweight barely counts for anything.
Depends. What are you talking about? All men? All men around your age? Or men around your age actually lift?
Apparently, I have really good eye brows and I've had numerous girls throughout my life ask if they can "do my eyebrows". I've legitimately contemplated going to an esthetician to have them properly done.
>Caring about the opinions of women
NGMI
It's pretty subjective if you think about it. Doing 1/2/3/4 means nothing if you're 6 ft tall and a hambeast but a lot if you're a manlet like me. I hit the 4 plate deadlift like 1 month ago and it was pretty worthless aside from my gymbros clapping. Back to the fat guy example, yeah, the lardlord is stronger but he can't run or do a pullup for his life. I prefer looking good and being consistent than being stronger since strength doesn't show as good as aesthetics in a daily basis. Just think that if you're fit, eat well and train consistently, you'll have a better body than 95% of the population which is untrained and with a bad diet
>there are 76 men in the US aged 15-49
x to doubt
Have you ever been to a party and thought all the guys were dressed the same? When was the last time you saw more than 79 men together in one room?
The truth is that they're recycling actors all over the place and you're just not paying attention.
the reasoning here is completely wrong. if 100% of competitors bench at least 20lbs that statistic doesnt mean that *only* that tiny fraction of the population can do so. you are not placed in the PL competitor percentage of men just because you can bench the minimum amount that the vast majority of them can bench.
if 87% of competitors bench at least 200lbs, it could be possible that competitors, who are 1% of the population, actually average around around 300lbs bench, and 50% of the normal population bench around 200lbs.
Your 20lb comparison isn't the same because that is something that anyone can do untrained.
What percentage of men who don't lift weights do you think can bench 200lbs? If you say less than 12.35%, then the 1.44% is being generous.
>there are powerlifting "men" with a sub 200lbs bench
>powerlifters with sub 200 bench
I know a guy who, in his meet, squatted 335, pulled 385, but only benched 155. He’s also 5’5” 126#
I tried to find some data a few years ago.
It seems 1/2/3/4 is roughly top 5%.
Most men don't exercise.
when you can do 5 pull ups. Most of you gymcels on this board cant even do that.
>caring about what Pajeeta thinks
Why is it always the retards who don't talk to women routinely who think they cracked the code on their preferences and behavior?
When you don’t cry at the ending of Final Fantasy IX anymore.
You can see what women consider 7s by looking at these replies https://twitter.com/BasedBeff/status/1546986657823526912?t=vUh-FIwRBiOwcPH-N7fdSQ&s=19
I blow away every 7 I saw there. I must be a 9.
This just proves even more that women don't know what the fuck they're talking about.
>jake gyllenhall a 7
sex war NOW
>get their brows groomed
What the fuck is wrong with that now
This has to be the most pathetic thread on IST since 2014
when you are 2/3/4.5/5.5
>Muh normies
really IST? you think normies matter? 80% of men are already invisible to the world. So you are really competing with the top 20% and that is all that really matters. So take the top 20% of men and thats what it takes to be near the 1% of that.
good morning sirs
Bench: 72.5kg 3x5
OHP: 42.5kg 3x5
Bent over row: 85kg 3x5
Deadlift: 100kg 3x5
Zercher: 80kg 3x5
How bad is this realistically?
you're around top 0.5%.
What roids are you cycling?
corticosteroid inhalers
She’s right. This is what the ideal man looks like to a woman. No self grooming, no fashion, just a well built natural physique.
>arnold
>natural
wow retard, Arnold's literally admitted to roiding. I bet you think the Rock is natty too