are broad shoulders like this genetics, and dependent on clavicle width? or is it something obtainable through training
are broad shoulders like this genetics, and dependent on clavicle width? or is it something obtainable through training
are broad shoulders like this genetics, and dependent on clavicle width? or is it something obtainable through training
genetics if natty
fuck
so there’s a chance if i roid?
Yes. Question is, is it worth it?
tell me how to get aesthetic shoulders now or else
there's no secret, your body either responds to the training or it doesn't
if you aren't a newbie you should know how to perform exercises for your shoulder and have a good gist of how much volume you need to get a good pump and or sore
everything else is genetics, or juice (juice response is correlated to genetics too)
fuck u don’t lie to me
if i do push pull push pull in one week
and my push consists of OHP 4x8,Cable lat raise 3x10
will my shoulders blow up
Nope
why
>ohp volume higher than lateral raise volueme
>no mention of posterior
anon...
will face pulls suffice for posterior
With a good row variation it will be enough. But remember than shoulders respond best to higher volume and low rest training. What I did to get good shoulders(which might have been 100% genetics or the swim training I do) is military press 5x5, weighted dips 5x5, front raise+side raise super setted 4x15, rows 5x5 and face pulls 3x10-15. If they dont grow while doing this and eating at a very slight surplus ur doomed. Make sure to push yourself though, shoulders can handle a beating.
>ohp volume higher than lateral raise volueme
why does this matter
they’re different lifts and weights
inclineds will train your posterior delts you should be training your lateral with as much or more volume if you want to look larger
does anyone in this board even lift anymore?
>3 sets twice a week assuming he lifts this for twice a week
lmao
how many sets per session? help me fix my routine
2 sessions per week
i do
ohp
face pull
lat raise
incline bench
retard DYEL
Or else what, doorframelet
which roids will grow your clavicle length?
This. Just if u had good testerone exposure at the right time in the womb, which depends on your health (ability to handle such exposure), genetics
Yes. This is all genetics. It cannot be obtained through training.
No. You cannot change your frame through roiding. The best you can get is larger deltoids which will not fix the problem with your frame.
i looked at US military stats and i have top 5% shoulder width
how to i maximise my gains
Yes it's 100% genetics. Big delts can give you wider thicker shoulders but not wider bone structure.
What is considered top 5%?
i’m roping myself tonight because of you
Make sure it's a strong rope fatty
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Not clavicle width, but rather shoulder girdle - humerus head thickness.
Average college gym bro physique
My guess probably natty or sarms or try dose
*trt dose
thanks anon you inspired me to do sarms
>thinks sarms are better and safer than time tested roids
Lmao
If you wanna look similar to guy in op fast while staying relatively healthy and (most likely) not have negative side effects do 200-300mg test
meow
>or is it something obtainable through training
Yes, while you're a child to teenager and shortly after that period. A grown human's bone and tendon structure will not change noticeably by training, only muscles will develop and grow. Then theres HGH but who the hell knows what the effect of that snake oil ends up being.
Hgh works.
In mysterious ways
You can build your shoulders up to look more rounded and ball shaped, sure.
What is genetic, and effects the look the most, is how high your trap inserts are.
Higher trap inserts will make your shoulders look lower than your traps, and you will need much bigger shoulders to flatten out your frame and look as we as you are.
Zyzz is a good example of high trap inserts. He has big shoulders, but he doesn't look like he has wide broad shoulders because his traps are so fucking high up and create a negative V shape.
I have the same issue, to a lesser degree, but I like having big looking traps for less work, and I dont mind shoulder targeting lifts, so w/e
do i need roids
Depends how severe your body dysmorphia is.
Go look at bodybuilders before 1935 (when anabolic steroids were first synthesised).
Would you be happy with their bodies?
If yes, then no roids.
If no, then roids and all the problems that come with them.
I would personally never touch the stuff, but Im also okay with not being a mass monster.
A lot of shoulder width appearance is posture, musculature and how narrow your torso is
Not sure. I feel like my shoulders were kinda narrow at age 20 and now Im considered broad shouldered by people
i got boulder shoulders by benching with shit form for 2 years, so yeah just spam your shoulders and you’ll be fine
These look like narrow shoulders and a small ribcage but the dude knew where to focus to compensate for it.
wdym
I think if his full head was included in the picture you'd understand what I'm saying.
I might be wrong though.
You're probably wrong.
fuck you you lied
They want BAC
It is easy to cope by blaming the lack of genetics like my friend did. When I went with him to the gym, 9 out of ten times his form was messed up, and in chest/tricep exercises it emphasises the front delt. When your front delt is over developed in contrast to your side, rear delt and perhaps even lats, imo it makes your delt even seem smaller and weird looking. Instead of coping with the genetics meme (not neglecting it entirely) try to work out your delts evenly and pay attention to your form when performing other exercises
I was a framelet skinny with zero muscle mass before I started lifting, my head would look big for my body. That isn't the case anymore after 2yrs.
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i have 125cms never thought i had wide shoulders. i'm 6''4 aswell this might be linked
i hate you
why ? :O
Thw nigga with the wide clavicles said you can get it to if you do his excercises.
The niggas who are lazy loser say its all genetics.
Make of that what you will
The size of your clavicles cannot be changed by resistance exercise. Your skeleton has reached its maximum size by time you are an adult. The only parts of measurements such as shoulder circumference are those related to muscle mass (including back muscle mass and pec mass).
He still has the same frame as before. The only thing that has changes is his muscle mass which many people subconsciously interpret as the frame changing. Anglefrauding and posing can be used to present the illusion of larger shoulders. This is considering that if the picture on the left was young enough, then his skeletal proportions still could have increased between that time and adulthood. So the comparison picture in essence makes zero arguments as I do not know either the difference in ages.
Cant prove him wrong though.
Fact:.He has broad shoulders, you dont
A scamming homosexual said you can be like him if you pay for his program.